Reassessing the Future for This Season’s Disappointing Rookies

Projecting the future is always difficult and full of inevitable misses, and I’m not just saying this because I have a vested interest in having you think I’m good at my job. We have a vague idea of a player’s broad future, enough so that nobody would trade Jackson Holliday for, say, Patrick Corbin. However, there’s always a great deal of uncertainty in prognosticating, and assuming for the sake of this opening paragraph that multiverse theory is correct, there will be planes of existence in which Corbin wins the NL Comeback Player of the Year award in 2025 when the Dodgers somehow fix his slider after a five-minute conversation. That’s not the way to bet, of course, and it’s likely that struggling rookies, especially ones with immaculate pre-2024 credentials — such as Holliday — will see this season as a bump in the road rather than a nasty car-destroying pothole.
Turns out, this was the season for longshot Rookie of the Year picks, especially in the American League. Of the top 17 AL rookies based on the preseason Rookie of the Year betting odds, only two players, Colton Cowser and Wilyer Abreu, ever had a plausible argument for being in the conversation once games started. Luis Gil and Austin Wells were nowhere to be found. For the table below, I’ve included 15 of the 17 players who were given AL Rookie of the Year awards odds by DraftKings before the season, sorted by their preseason ranking in descending order, along with their actual 2024 stats. I’m citing these rankings to get a general sense of who the favorites were back in March, not because I think they are more or less accurate than any other sportsbook odds.
(I’ve excluded the two other players, outfielder Everson Pereira and pitcher Ricky Tiedemann, because neither of them have reached the big leagues this season.)
| Rank (DK) | Name | G | PA | HR | SB | AVG | OBP | SLG | wRC+ | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Jackson Holliday | 51 | 184 | 5 | 4 | .170 | .223 | .298 | 47 | -0.2 |
| 2 | Evan Carter | 45 | 162 | 5 | 2 | .188 | .272 | .361 | 79 | 0.1 |
| 3 | Wyatt Langford | 122 | 503 | 11 | 15 | .249 | .318 | .391 | 100 | 1.8 |
| 4 | Junior Caminero | 32 | 133 | 3 | 2 | .248 | .316 | .388 | 101 | 0.4 |
| 5 | Colt Keith | 138 | 528 | 13 | 7 | .263 | .313 | .385 | 99 | 2.0 |
| 6 | Nolan Schanuel | 139 | 576 | 13 | 9 | .252 | .344 | .365 | 104 | 0.7 |
| 7 | Parker Meadows | 71 | 252 | 8 | 9 | .238 | .307 | .441 | 110 | 1.6 |
| 8 | Wilyer Abreu | 120 | 405 | 15 | 8 | .262 | .326 | .482 | 120 | 3.0 |
| 9 | Colton Cowser | 142 | 518 | 20 | 8 | .242 | .322 | .434 | 116 | 3.5 |
| 10 | Heston Kjerstad | 29 | 83 | 3 | 1 | .254 | .361 | .408 | 121 | 0.2 |
| 11 | Kyle Manzardo | 43 | 126 | 3 | 0 | .229 | .270 | .407 | 89 | -0.1 |
| 12 | Jasson Domínguez | 6 | 23 | 0 | 2 | .150 | .261 | .150 | 28 | -0.1 |
| 13 | Coby Mayo | 15 | 40 | 0 | 0 | .086 | .200 | .086 | -6 | -0.5 |
| 16 | Brooks Lee | 40 | 155 | 3 | 3 | .229 | .271 | .333 | 68 | 0.1 |
| 17 | Ceddanne Rafaela | 143 | 539 | 15 | 19 | .250 | .277 | .398 | 82 | 0.9 |
Only six of these 17 players played even a half-season’s worth of games in the majors. It’s not just sportsbooks and bettors that got it wrong; by the time voting is official, we will have gone 0-for-25 here at FanGraphs.
I’ve done the same thing for the 19 NL players who were given preseason Rookie of the Year odds, with one table for hitters and another for pitchers. (All of the AL rookies who received preseason odds and actually played in 2024 are position players.) Things went significantly better for senior-circuit rookies.
| Rank (DK) | Name | G | PA | HR | SB | AVG | OBP | SLG | wRC+ | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 | Jung Hoo Lee | 37 | 158 | 2 | 2 | .262 | .310 | .331 | 84 | 0.2 |
| 3 | Jackson Chourio | 136 | 527 | 21 | 20 | .273 | .329 | .474 | 121 | 3.7 |
| 4 | Jackson Merrill | 146 | 555 | 24 | 16 | .290 | .322 | .504 | 130 | 4.7 |
| 6 | Michael Busch | 141 | 531 | 20 | 2 | .255 | .337 | .450 | 121 | 2.5 |
| 9 | Masyn Winn | 139 | 586 | 13 | 11 | .271 | .317 | .408 | 103 | 3.2 |
| 13 | Hunter Goodman | 64 | 202 | 12 | 1 | .190 | .233 | .418 | 63 | -1.1 |
| 14 | James Wood | 67 | 284 | 7 | 13 | .273 | .363 | .426 | 123 | 1.2 |
| 16 | Tyler Black | 18 | 57 | 0 | 3 | .204 | .316 | .245 | 68 | -0.1 |
| 17 | Pete Crow-Armstrong | 111 | 365 | 10 | 27 | .242 | .292 | .408 | 94 | 2.7 |
| 18 | Dylan Crews | 19 | 81 | 3 | 8 | .216 | .272 | .378 | 80 | 0.3 |
| Rank (DK) | Name | G | GS | IP | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | ERA | FIP | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Yoshinobu Yamamoto | 16 | 16 | 82.0 | 10.43 | 2.09 | 0.66 | 2.63 | 2.54 | 2.7 |
| 5 | Shota Imanaga | 28 | 28 | 166.3 | 9.20 | 1.52 | 1.46 | 3.03 | 3.80 | 2.8 |
| 7 | Kyle Harrison | 24 | 24 | 124.3 | 8.54 | 3.04 | 1.30 | 4.56 | 4.34 | 0.8 |
| 8 | Paul Skenes | 21 | 21 | 126.0 | 11.29 | 2.29 | 0.71 | 2.07 | 2.58 | 3.9 |
| 10 | DL Hall | 9 | 7 | 36.7 | 9.33 | 4.91 | 1.23 | 4.91 | 4.83 | 0.2 |
| 11 | Max Meyer | 11 | 11 | 57.0 | 7.26 | 3.00 | 2.21 | 5.68 | 5.91 | -0.3 |
| 15 | Yuki Matsui | 61 | 0 | 61.0 | 9.74 | 3.84 | 1.18 | 3.84 | 3.99 | 0.3 |
| 19 | AJ Smith-Shawver | 1 | 1 | 4.3 | 8.31 | 4.15 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 2.71 | 0.2 |
So, what’s next for the rookies who are out of the awards picture? To get an idea of the change in their futures, I re-ran their projections for the next five years to compare to what their outlooks were during the preseason, using data as of Tuesday morning. I left out the players who have at least two WAR in 2024, as well as Matsui, who is a reliever and performed right in line with expectations, giving us a group of 21. In the interests of full disclosure, I am a National League Rookie of the Year voter this year, so I will not express any of my personal feelings regarding who should win that award.
| Player | 2025 WAR | Preseason | Chg | 2025-2029 WAR | Preseason | Chg |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Evan Carter | 1.7 | 2.6 | -0.9 | 9.7 | 15.2 | -5.5 |
| DL Hall | 0.8 | 1.6 | -0.8 | 5.4 | 9.8 | -4.4 |
| Jasson Domínguez | 1.0 | 1.7 | -0.7 | 7.3 | 11.4 | -4.1 |
| Wyatt Langford | 2.6 | 3.1 | -0.5 | 14.9 | 17.2 | -2.3 |
| Hunter Goodman | 0.4 | 0.7 | -0.3 | 2.7 | 4.9 | -2.2 |
| Nolan Schanuel | 1.4 | 1.9 | -0.5 | 9.0 | 10.4 | -1.4 |
| Max Meyer | 1.3 | 1.5 | -0.2 | 7.0 | 8.2 | -1.2 |
| AJ Smith-Shawver | 1.3 | 1.5 | -0.2 | 8.8 | 9.8 | -1.0 |
| Jung Hoo Lee | 2.2 | 2.6 | -0.4 | 11.1 | 12.0 | -0.9 |
| Kyle Harrison | 1.5 | 1.7 | -0.2 | 9.2 | 9.9 | -0.7 |
| Jackson Holliday | 3.5 | 3.6 | -0.1 | 20.7 | 21.3 | -0.6 |
| Ceddanne Rafaela | 2.1 | 2.2 | -0.1 | 13.0 | 13.3 | -0.3 |
| Coby Mayo | 2.6 | 2.6 | 0.0 | 17.2 | 17.0 | 0.2 |
| Tyler Black | 2.0 | 1.9 | 0.1 | 10.5 | 10.2 | 0.3 |
| Brooks Lee | 1.8 | 1.7 | 0.1 | 10.5 | 9.8 | 0.7 |
| Junior Caminero | 1.3 | 1.0 | 0.3 | 9.0 | 7.8 | 1.2 |
| Parker Meadows | 2.3 | 1.7 | 0.6 | 11.5 | 9.4 | 2.1 |
| Kyle Manzardo | 1.9 | 1.5 | 0.4 | 11.5 | 8.4 | 3.1 |
| James Wood | 2.5 | 1.7 | 0.8 | 16.1 | 12.6 | 3.5 |
| Heston Kjerstad | 1.9 | 1.3 | 0.6 | 8.8 | 5.2 | 3.6 |
| Dylan Crews | 2.2 | 0.5 | 1.7 | 13.6 | 2.8 | 10.8 |
In the projections, Evan Carter took the biggest hit. With a rather short, walk-heavy pedigree, ZiPS already saw him as riskier than the other top projected rookies, and then he had a rough early-season performance and a back injury that ruined his 2024. Taking all of this into account, ZiPS drops his 2025 line to .244/.338/.399; with a decent glove, that’s enough to be an average corner outfielder in this offensive environment, but well short of his preseason .259/.358/.412 projection. Carter’s teammate, Wyatt Langford, was a source of much projection disagreement entering the season, with Steamer and ZiPS quite excited, and THE BAT being rather meh about the situation. So far, meh has been closer, though he has hit much better (.258/.326/.424 in 91 games) since returning from an injury in late May.
Jasson Domínguez mainly makes this list for two reasons, more time on the injured list, causing ZiPS to take a foggier view of his health, and the fact that he didn’t have the major breakout yet, which is one of the things that ZiPS was banking on for him. His performance in Triple-A was good, but minor league offense is still crazy; ZiPS has his minor league translation at .263/.320/411, compared to his actual .309/.368/.480 line. That said, Domínguez should be starting every day for the Yankees over Alex Verdugo.
ZiPS is definitely bearish on Nolan Schanuel, and it’s increasingly confident that he won’t develop enough power, or enough secondary skills to compensate for his lack of power, to be a real plus at first base. The projections never bought into Hunter Goodman; he hit even worse than expected this year, and is not particularly young. I’m actually surprised DL Hall didn’t take an even bigger hit; back in a starting role, the walks came back with a vengeance, to the extent that returning to the bullpen for good might be the far better fit for him now.
Jackson Holliday’s numbers didn’t take a big hit for a few reasons. First, and most importantly, despite a really lousy debut in the majors, he played well enough in the minors — plus he’s so young and his résumé is so strong — that his small-sample struggles barely register. By reverse-o-fying Holliday’s major league woes into an untranslated minor league line and including it in his overall Triple-A production, ZiPS estimates that he would’ve had a 118 wRC+ in Triple-A this season, down from his actual mark of 142. A 20-year-old shortstop with a 118 wRC+ in Triple-A would still top everybody’s prospect list.
Several of these players simply didn’t get enough playing time to make a real impression. Coby Mayo and Heston Kjerstad never really had significant chances to grab starting roles with the Orioles this year, and James Wood and Dylan Crews were both midseason call-ups. Even so, the two Nationals rookies received some of the biggest bumps in their new projections. For Crews, the improvement was massive, largely because ZiPS has very little to go on and didn’t translate his college numbers as positively as Wyatt Langford’s, meaning that with a good first impression, Crews had a lot of room to grow in the eyes of ZiPS. Wood added nearly 200 points of OPS at Triple-A from his previous season — a combined .874 mark between High- and Double-A — at the time of his call-up; it was such a drastic improvement that if I had re-done the ZiPS Top 100 prospect list then, he would have come out on top.
None of these 21 players is in contention for the Rookie of the Year awards that will be announced in a few months. But for most of them, the lack of hardware in 2024 doesn’t represent a setback that changes their future outlooks too much.
Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
What does ZIPS think of the futures of the rookies that have a shot at the awards? Makes me sad looking at the 3-year outlook for Chourio and still seeing 2 WAR per season projections but maybe that’s just what he’s expected for.
I don’t think those rest of career projections are updated in season. He should have a higher expectation when they are run later.
Meadows hit .131/.247/.286 before getting sent back to Toledo. Since his return, he’s mashed at a .301/.344/.532 clip and has been a real catalyst in Detroit’s long-shot odds at making the playoffs. That’s not ROY worthy but to put up a 1.6 WAR after that start bodes well for the Tigers.
1.6 WAR in 71 games is extremely encouraging!
Is it weird that I don’t think my opinion of the players listed here on the table “ZiPS Projections, Preseason vs. Today” has changed all that much? I still believe in Evan Carter and Wyatt Langford (given that they are healthy going forward, which might be an issue), and I never believed in DL Hall or Hunter Goodman. And I always thought that Crews and Wood were going to be good.
I guess I am also more skeptical about Dominguez because I think he may never be healthy again, and Schanuel has been a real disappointment. So I totally buy ZiPS there.
It’s funny, I came down here to note that Schanuel has been a (mini) revelation. Just goes to show how initial expectations affect experience. He has sneaky ambush pop in a Jeff McNeil kind of way, and he could threaten .400 OBPs while regularly sitting in the .365 range. I’d expect him to have some 0 WAR and 4 WAR seasons (mostly centered around 1.5 WAR) over a ~8-11 year career.
Remember, he’s a 22-year-old who skipped the minors in an org that doesn’t do player dev.
I have such a hard time with the younger players on the Angels — are they struggling because of ability or because of the lack of (negative?) player dev?
I don’t think they’re as bad as suggested. Neto, Schanuel, Rengifo, and Jose Soriano have made solid contributions, and while Schanuel and Neto didn’t have a ton of dev, they did make noticeable improvements to their games over time. Rengifo and Logan O’Hoppe also made big turnarounds in the minors after being acquired from the Mariners and Phillies, respectively.
I wonder if they’re only good at developing certain types of players. Players who make lots of contact, like Neto, Schanuel, and Rengifo, and pitchers with stuff that plays well in the strike zone, like Detmers and Jose Soriano.
I do not know what I expected but it was not this! I think it was always unrealistic for him to maintain a .375+ OBP with the lack of power but I didn’t put it together. He needs to have near-perfect strike zone recognition because his power is awful. His maxEV is second worst in MLB among qualified hitters and his average EV is 7th worst. He’s not at Steven Kwan’s level and I think that’s the kind of strike zone recognition he would need to profile at first.
Not sure where you see the positive side of risk for him. He’s got a single skill (plate discipline) that doesn’t play up if pitchers just challenge him for lack of power. EVs, ISO, even his fielding are just bad. He’d have to be a legitimately elite on base force to make up for those things and become anywhere near good, and he hasn’t been that over 700 PA.
Dominguez hit a home run to dead center last night on a ball off the end of his bat; I’m not really that his ability to play. Injuries might be a concern in the future, but for now I’m cautiously optimistic.
The one guy who is on that table who I am very down on is Cedanne Rafaela, who looks much more like Kevin Pillar than he did before. But you know who I am really down on compared to where I was before? Victor Scott. Wow, does he look terrible. Nick Nastini, too, although there were warning signs even before he was called up. And I’m totally off of Curtis Mead at this point.
It’s weird to me that Nolan Schanuel’s projection went backwards when (to my eyes) he wildly exceeded expectations, especially in the second half (.275/.381/.393 since ASB).
I guess the projections must have “bought” his fluky 112 wRC+ from 2023 and otherwise shrugged at the 97 PA in the minors. His EV data alone made a 100 wRC+ look pretty doubtful.
In any case, I’m more optimistic than I was.
RIP TEX and welcome WSH
The models are designed to look at more data, so post ASG is not a super meaningful split. Taken as a whole, he’s been about average this year when he was expected to be a bit better. Maybe there is signal in the sequencing and he’s gotten better, and the models are lagging… but that’s narrative based and not something they should include because it’ll decrease their overall accuracy.
It’s also not like he’s been unlucky. He looks average to above average right now, buoyed by high OBP which means he’s probably not going to see a lot of growth in his carrying tool unless the power develops.
I can see him as a 1-3 WAR guy but wouldn’t blame someone for taking the over. I just think there’s collapse risk u less the pop develops more.
Yeah – the model didn’t start thinking he’d be a 90 wRC+ guy going forward based on the first half, so it’s not pleasantly surprised about him looking like a 120 wRC+ guy in the second half.
It just sees someone from whom it expected a 110 wRC+ put up a 105.
…which is 100% how it should be set up, to be right as often as possible.
Got to say I like the upwards adjustments on Crews and Wood!
This is a neat review of the original projections. If you end up remembering after the 2029 season you need to go back and see how close it ended up being!
Interesting that ZiPS is so down on Langford vs Holliday. Two years is a pretty sizable age gap, but I feel a whole lot better about the former’s season than the latter’s.
Wyatt is gonna be a great player and very possibly better than Holliday, but does it help to illustrate that when Langford was Holliday’s age he still had another year of college to play?
Are your ZIPS 2025 projections available anywhere? Looks like FG player pages do not have them updated in the 3-year outlook. Many thanks. Use them to make keeper decisions!
I’d be interested to see more discussion on Wyatt Langford. Didn’t at least one of the preseason projection systems have him leading the league in extra base hits as a rookie? That has to be unprecedented, right?
I haven’t checked all the top rookie seasons, but I did find that Ted Williams and Pete Alonso have both accomplished that feat.
Was really hoping to see Henry Davis, but then remembered he didn’t qualify as a rookie entering the season. Any chance you can share the change in ZiPS for him after a lost year at the MLB level, but still raking at AAA? Holding out hope for a #1 overall.
hey Dan, love your content! I understand Holliday prospect pedigree and overall minor league track record is higher than that of Evan Carter. But Carter just turned 21 (Holliday is still 20 for a few more months), and Carter has 85 MLB games (17 in 2023 playoff run) to Holliday’s 52 game stint this year. Including Carter’s injury impacted 2024, his slash line is still 223/316/447 for a 111 WRC+ with 10 homeruns, 11.4 BB% and 28.3 K%. In 2024 Holliday has slashed 169/222/297 for a 46+ with 5 homeruns, 5.4 BB% and 34.6 K%. Carter was clearly hampered by some sort of injury for part of 2024 and Holliday was not, why does ZIP downgrade Carter’s value that much more when Holliday hasn’t shown the same success yet even with no injury? This isn’t an indictment on wanting Holliday ZIPs long term value to adjust, but more so why Carter’s is so drastic. Thank you!
46 WRC+ my b on the typo
I’d be willing to bet that Carter’s nearly non existent milb playing time against LHB is hurting his projections
I was never as high on Jackson Holliday as most, primarily due to his ground ball rate and a low opinion of his defensive abilities. What really concerns me about his performance this season is coupling a very low Z-Contact% with a very low Z-Swing%. If he’s going to miss frequently on pitches in the strike zone, then he needs to be more aggressive about swinging at them. It’s also worrisome that Jackson is struggling with every type of pitch, not just one.
Ah, I read “rookies” as “Rockies” and thought this was gonna be another classic Dan ripping the Rockies post.
Very happy to see James Wood thriving
A glimmer of hope👍