So Much Talent in the WBC
The World Baseball Classic is scheduled to begin early next month. This will represent the fourth such tournament, Japan having won the first two, followed by a victory by the Dominican Republic the last time around. While the United States has yet to win, they bring more talent than the rest of the countries represented.
The 16 participating countries officially named their rosters last week, accounting for a total of 226 position players and 321 pitchers from 16 countries. Not all the players will necessarily play, of course. With a view to limiting workload, teams have been permitted to name pitchers who might appear in later rounds of the tournament, even if they’re absent from the first — the idea being to protect players who haven’t benefited from spring training before the start of their respective professional league. There are four Asian countries participating in the tournament, for example — China, Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan — and a number of their players play at a fairly high professional level. Other teams like Australia, Israel, and Italy feature fewer MLB-type players on their rosters, naturally. Even so, there’s still a great deal of talent in the tournament — something which we can identify in the projections.
Of the 226 position players in the tournament, a Steamer projection is available for 133. Of those 133 players, 86 earn a forecast for replacement-level production or better in 2017. Nor does that account for the talent in the various Asian leagues. In other words: despite the presence of countries in which baseball is less popular, it’s still probably fair to estimate that close to half of the position players participating in the WBC will be of MLB caliber. In terms of the talent level for which we have available projections, the U.S. has a decent advantage.

The U.S. has a 50% advantage over the second-place Dominican Republic, with Venezuela and Puerto Rico placing not too far behind. The Netherlands — thanks to a combination of Xander Bogaerts, Didi Gregorius, Jonathan Schoop, and Andrelton Simmons — also figure to bring up a decent amount of MLB value. When we account for the number of players, and factor in the likelihood that starters will receive the bulk of the playing time, the gap between the Dominican Republic and the U.S. shrinks.
Here, as an illustration of that, is the average projected WAR per player on each roster:
| Team | Players | 2017 Projected WAR | AVG WAR |
|---|---|---|---|
| US | 15 | 46.9 | 3.1 |
| DR | 12 | 32.2 | 2.7 |
| VEN | 12 | 24.7 | 2.1 |
| PR | 12 | 21.4 | 1.8 |
| NED | 7 | 13.3 | 1.9 |
| CAN | 5 | 6.3 | 1.3 |
| ITA | 5 | 6.3 | 1.3 |
| MEX | 5 | 4.8 | 1.0 |
| ISR | 4 | 3.1 | 0.8 |
| COL | 4 | 3.0 | 0.8 |
| S KOR | 2 | 1.8 | 0.9 |
| JAPAN | 1 | 0.7 | 0.7 |
| AUS | 2 | 0.6 | 0.3 |
| TAI | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| CUB | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| CHN | 0 | 0 | 0 |
The United States, Dominican Republic, Venezuela, and Puerto Rico are all bringing full rosters of MLB players, while the Netherlands (as noted) is bringing some and Canada, Colombia, Israel, Italy, and Mexico all feature a handful each. The top players are presented in the chart below.
| Player | Team | WAR |
|---|---|---|
| Manny Machado | Dominican Republic | 6.0 |
| Francisco Lindor | Puerto Rico | 5.0 |
| Carlos Correa | Puerto Rico | 4.6 |
| Giancarlo Stanton | U.S. | 4.4 |
| Adrian Beltre | Dominican Republic | 4.1 |
| Buster Posey | U.S. | 4.1 |
| Nolan Arenado | U.S. | 4.1 |
| Miguel Cabrera | Venezuela | 4.0 |
| Andrelton Simmons | Netherlands | 3.9 |
| Paul Goldschmidt | U.S. | 3.8 |
| Christian Yelich | U.S. | 3.7 |
| José Altuve | Venezuela | 3.7 |
| Robinson Cano | Dominican Republic | 3.6 |
| Xander Bogaerts | Netherlands | 3.6 |
| Brandon Crawford | U.S. | 3.3 |
| Freddie Freeman | Canada | 3.3 |
Manny Machado leads the way with Mike Trout not participating. Machado’s 6-WAR projection is behind only Trout among position players, and the top-14 players in the chart above all place among the top-30 projections. On the pitching side, the gap between the U.S. and Dominican Republic is even smaller, while Mexico’s rotation looks pretty strong, as well.
| Team | Players | WAR | AVG/WAR |
|---|---|---|---|
| US | 8 | 25.6 | 3.2 |
| DR | 7 | 21.0 | 3.0 |
| MEX | 6 | 14.0 | 2.3 |
| PR | 5 | 10.7 | 2.1 |
| VEN | 4 | 10.1 | 2.5 |
| COL | 2 | 6.6 | 3.3 |
| ISR | 3 | 4.8 | 1.6 |
| CAN | 1 | 1.1 | 1.1 |
| AUS | 1 | 1.0 | 1.0 |
| NED | 1 | 0.9 | 0.9 |
| CHN | 1 | 0.8 | 0.8 |
| S KOR | 0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| ITA | 0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| TAI | 0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| JAPAN | 0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| CUBA | 0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
On the individual level, projection darling Jose De Leon takes the top spot when his stats are projected across 200 innings. After De Leon, we see many of the best starting pitchers in baseball.
| Player | Team | WAR |
|---|---|---|
| Jose De Leon | Puerto Rico | 4.2 |
| Chris Archer | U.S. | 4.1 |
| Jose Quintana | Colombia | 4.0 |
| Marcus Stroman | U.S. | 3.9 |
| Johnny Cueto | Dominican Republic | 3.9 |
| Carlos Martinez | Dominican Republic | 3.7 |
| Julio Urias | Mexico | 3.7 |
| Jaime Garcia | Mexico | 3.5 |
| Michael Fulmer | U.S. | 3.3 |
| Danny Duffy | U.S. | 3.2 |
| Luis Severino | Dominican Republic | 3.2 |
| Drew Smyly | U.S. | 3.1 |
| Sonny Gray | U.S. | 3.0 |
| Ivan Nova | Dominican Republic | 3.0 |
| Felix Hernandez | Venezuela | 3.0 |
If this were a true playoff, we might wonder if Jose Quintana could power Colombia to a few surprising wins or consider whether Julio Urias and Jaime Garcia might put together some back to back gems to put Mexico in the medal hunt. Starting pitching is likely to be the element that least resembles the MLB regular season or playoffs. In 2013, pitchers were limited to 65 pitches in a first-round outing, 80 pitches in a second-round outing, and 95 pitches in the semifinals and finals. Presuming the same limits are intact, it would be more difficult for a surprise dominant outing by a starter to impact the entire series. That could serve to make the bullpens pretty important. Here is how they stack up.
| Team | Players | WAR | AVG/WAR |
|---|---|---|---|
| US | 11 | 7.8 | 0.7 |
| DR | 12 | 7.7 | 0.6 |
| MEX | 11 | 5.1 | 0.5 |
| VEN | 12 | 4.3 | 0.4 |
| PR | 8 | 2.8 | 0.4 |
| NED | 1 | 1.6 | 1.6 |
| ITA | 5 | 1.4 | 0.3 |
| S KOR | 2 | 1.3 | 0.7 |
| AUS | 3 | 1.1 | 0.4 |
| CAN | 6 | 1.0 | 0.2 |
| COL | 3 | 0.3 | 0.1 |
| TAI | 1 | 0.3 | 0.3 |
| ISR | 1 | 0.1 | 0.1 |
| CHN | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| JAPAN | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| CUBA | 0 | 0 | 0 |
And here are the top relievers overall by projection:
| Player | Team | WAR |
|---|---|---|
| Andrew Miller | U.S. | 1.8 |
| Dellin Betances | Dominican Republic | 1.7 |
| Kenley Jansen | Netherlands | 1.6 |
| Edwin Diaz | Puerto Rico | 1.2 |
| Brett Cecil | U.S. | 1.1 |
| Nate Jones | U.S. | 1.0 |
| Jeurys Familia | Dominican Republic | 0.9 |
| Roberto Osuna | Mexico | 0.9 |
| Hector Rondon | Venezuela | 0.9 |
| Liam Hendriks | Australia | 0.9 |
| Seung Hwan Oh | S Korea | 0.9 |
| David Robertson | U.S. | 0.8 |
Last year, I looked at the talent level in the All-Star Game and found that the average second-half projection for the roughly 60 All-Stars was right around 1.5 — or, pretty close to 3 WAR over the course of a full season. If we look at the roughly 60 players on the U.S. and Dominican Republic teams, we see full-season projections right around 2.2 WAR. The numbers for both the All-Star Game and the WBC are dragged down a bit by the number of relievers. So while the U.S. and Dominican Republic rosters seem to fall a bit shy of the sort one might find in the All-Star Game, those figures are still solid. The Netherlands, Puerto Rico, and Venezuela add another 60 players with average projections around 1.5. If we leave out the bullpen, the U.S. and Dominican Republic feature full teams averaging around 3 WAR per player, with Puerto Rico and Venezuela fielding full teams of average players at every position, something most MLB teams find very difficult to do.
While we can’t say for sure how the WBC will play out and while the timing of the event means players might be a little less than their best, in terms of talent, the collection is fantastic. This post is not meant to slight the Asian or Cuban teams, whose top professionals most often play outside of MLB, but trying to fit a translation into the projection would have unduly muddied any gains to be had by that analysis. Before we go, here’s one last chart showing the best projections for each team.
| Best Position Player | Best Starter | Best Reliever | |
|---|---|---|---|
| US | Giancarlo Stanton | Chris Archer | Andrew Miller |
| DR | Manny Machado | Johnny Cueto | Dellin Betances |
| VEN | Miguel Cabrera | Felix Hernandez | Edubray Ramos |
| PR | Francisco Lindor | Jose De Leon | Edwin Diaz |
| MEX | Khris Davis | Julio Urias | Roberto Osuna |
| COL | Dilson Herrera | Jose Quintana | Greg Nappo |
| NED | Andrelton Simmons | Jair Jurjjens | Kenley Jansen |
| ISR | Ty Kelly | Scott Feldman | Dylan Axelrod |
| CAN | Freddie Freeman | Andrew Albers | John Axford |
| AUS | Allan de San Miguel | Tim Atherton | Liam Hendriks |
| S KOR | Shin-Soo Choo | NA | Seung-Hwan Oh |
| CHN | NA | Bruce Chen | NA |
| ITA | Francisco Cervelli | NA | Tiago da Silva |
| TAI | NA | NA | Wei-Chung Wang |
| JAPAN | Norichiki Aoki | NA | NA |
| CUBA | NA | NA | NA |
Craig Edwards can be found on twitter @craigjedwards.
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he keeps coming up with funky-ass international baseball analysis like every single day.
There’s so much talent in the World BC,
Says C to the R to the A-I-G.
Does Jose de Leon really project at 4.2 by steamer?
He does by Steamer600, which projects what starting pitchers will be worth assuming they all pitch exactly 200 innings next season. Pretty much everyone would view that as optimistic, yet I understand why Steamer has trouble agreeing given his incredible minor league strikeout rates.
Which means that De Leon is projected to be the best on a per inning basis… Doesn’t pass the smell test for me
No idea there was baseball talent from the Netherlands! Also I didn’t know Khris Davis was Mexican. I’m more excited for the WBC now for sure
Much of the Netherlands talent is from Caribbean islands that are territories of the Netherlands.
Technically, they’re not territories. Aruba, Curacao, and Sint Maarten are self-governing countries (with their own governments and currencies) within the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Meanwhile, Bonaire, Sint Eustatius, and Saba are not territories either but are actually part of the Netherlands itself.
The Netherlands makes up for being small by being extremely complicated.
The Dutch Carribean islands are part of the Netherlands, just as Hawaii is part of the U.S. That’s where almost all of their players come from.
Netherlands, Italy and especially Germany are our European powerhouses. Great Britain missed out to Israel at the death, but it shows the gulf in class. If we can get to where Germany are now in the next ten years, we’ll have done brilliantly.
Especially Germany? You consider Germany more of a powerhouse than Netherlands or Italy?
From what I understand, Germany has some fantastic infrastructure and has more locals playing, as opposed to people from former colonies or islands that they still rule. That makes it more of a model for us in GB as the main former colony that speaks the same language and plays baseball is the US, so, unlike cricket, we’re having to build from scratch rather than get sustained by people coming over to settle and play their sport.
I’ll just ignore the troubling assertion that descendants from former colonies are somehow not locals (although I do wonder what colony this would be for Italy).
I’ll admit I do not know all that much about the infrastructure of German baseball, but I feel you may be underestimating the grassroots of Dutch baseball. Every mid-sized town has their own baseball club. My own town of 150k people has two. Equal-sized Haarlem has 8. In total there are almost 200 clubs in the Netherlands, the majority with their own youth programmes. (for comparison, Germany, which has 5 times the population of the Netherlands has 250) If you play youth baseball, you will never have to travel more than an hour to face an opponent, and if you live in Noord Holland, you can probably bike to any opponent you’ll face. The majority of these players, it may come as a shock to you, are actually white. This is also reflected in the Dutch squad. You will notice that despite the dominance of Curaçao, there are actually quite a lot of European-born players in their roster. There are currently 10 players from the mainland Netherlands in the major minor leagues compared to 4 Germans.And it is important here to remember that if players fail in the minors, they can move back to the Netherlands and play in our own professional league. The last two and 8 of the last 20 European Cups were won by Dutch teams (the others were all Italian). The last time a German team even reached the top 3 was in 1971. According to Mister Baseball, four of the top 10 clubs in Europe are Dutch, compared to 1 German team. Any way you look at it, Dutch baseball is much more ingrained in the culture than German baseball is.
TrackMan is based in the Netherlands
Curaçao won 11 of the 16 little league championships in the Caribbean. Aruba often reaches the finals too. The European part mostly produces the pitchers, like Rick van den Hurk and Loek van Mil. Gerg Halman was another player from the mainland.
I had no idea Freeman was Canadian!!
Born and raised in California. His parents were both born in Canada and originally met there. He chose to play for Canada as a nod to his late mother’s heritage.
It’s funny how lax they are with what country you choose to play for. Manny Machado was born in the US, grew up in the US, has never lived anywhere but the US, and he’s allowed to play for DR? Not complaining it’s just interesting. And I feel like just being Jewish is enough qualification to play for team Israel
It’s true. The rule is, if you’re eligible to be a citizen of the country (even if you’re not actually a citizen), you’re entitled to play for the team. That means any Jews are eligible to play for Israel. And it’s why Machado can play for the DR, Freeman can play for Canada, and Rizzo can play for Italy.
Even better, Austin Brice was considered for China’s roster because he was born in Hong Kong… in 1992, five years before it was handed back to China (which means he’s arguably more eligible to play for Great Britain, if it made the WBC, than the People’s Republic)
Wow a hypothetical Team Israel would have a powerhouse lineup: Ryan Braun, Joc Pederson, Kevin Pillar, Ian Kinsler, Jason Kipnis, Danny Valencia, Alex Bregman
Ah snap, I could play for Colombia!
TIL: Jair Jurrjens is both alive and playing baseball competitively.
You have Liam Hendricks listed as a Canadian in the reliever chart, then correctly as an Aussie in the team projections chart.
I think it is cool that former MLB pitcher, Bruce Chen, is playing for China. He was born and raised in Panama, but is of Chinese descent. He played for Panama in the past, but Panama is not in the WBC this year. He turns 40 in June, which is also cool.
Always thought it was weird that an Asian looking guy named Chen was Panamanian. Is that common in Panama?
Yeah, Chinese-Panamaians are about 4% of Panama’s population. Carlos Lee is also of partial Chinese descent. Many Latin American nations have sizable Chinese populations including Mexico, Cuba, and Peru.
I spend a lot of time in Panama playing poker tournaments, and at the casinos. There is a very large Chinese population here that has a very large percentage of the money.
It’s too bad the Cuban ex-pats aren’t allowed to play. Or that all the Japanese pitchers are sitting out due to health reasons (Darvish, Tanaka, Maeda, and especially Otani).
The most interesting young Japanese position players will be there, however – Seiya Suzuki, Yoshitomo Tsutsugo and Tetsuto Yamada.
Keep an eye on Pool D: just last week Mexico and Puerto Rico faced off in the final of the Caribbean Series and PR won in the 10th with the only run of the game (lead-off double, sacrifice bunt, and sacrifice fly in the top of the 10th, then three quick outs in the bottom). That game was PR’s first series win since 2000, and they did it on enemy turf, as the final was played in Culiacan Mexico.
Now PR will face Mexico again in pool play on March 11, and once again they will be on enemy territory (all the Pool D games are played in Jalisco).
Understandably, most of the attention will be on the stacked rosters from the US and the DR in Pool C, but there’s plenty of intrigue elsewhere (and PR has some intriguing players in Edwin Diaz and World Series infielders Lindor and Baez).
Poor Canada, stuck in the Pool of Death with the US and DR. It’s probably appropriate they’re selling the mourning version of the team cap already.
Interesting article! You touched on this, but this kind of outlook probably way undersells Japan wouldn’t you say? They probably have a number of players who are at least replacement level. And a few, like Tetsuto Yamada, who would likely be average to above-average MLB players.