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So far this season, the Miami Marlins nabbed a trio of marquee free agents while also being heavily connected with eventual Angels’ signees Albert Pujols and C.J. Wilson. After a quiet couple of weeks, the team might be in on another deal, albeit this time with a less sexy name: Joe Saunders.

Saunders makes some folks cringe because he was the big-league player the Diamondbacks got in the Dan Haren trade. Baseball fanatics know that Tyler Skaggs — who also was acquired in the deal — is a very well-regarded prospect; but to the casual fan, the trade looked like a Haren-for-Saunders salary dump. Saunders’ performance did little to quell that sentiment: He posted only 1.9 WAR in almost a season-and-a-half before Arizona non-tendered him this fall. Read the rest of this entry »

The Diamondbacks have capitalized on the Giants’ offensive ineptitude and slew of injuries, winning eight of their last 11 games and taking a two-and-a-half game lead in the National League West. A year after losing 97 games, the team is primed for a playoff push. Arizona hasn’t missed a beat, despite issues that might have taken down a lesser team. Losing Stephen Drew and lacking an everyday first baseman might push other teams out of the race, but the Diamondbacks are playing some of their best baseball right now.

Their success is a testament to an improved bullpen, potent offense and a young, effective starting rotation. But the rotation would be even more potent these days had the team not made a questionable trade last season — a trade that seems even stranger by the month and is still without reasonable justification. It’s a trade that — if avoided and all else were held constant — would likely have the D-backs with a firm handle on a playoff berth. It’s a trade that sent one of the best starters in baseball, Dan Haren, to the Angels for Joe Saunders, Tyler Skaggs, Rafael Rodriguez and Pat Corbin.

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One of the statistical terms we mention quite a bit here when evaluating players is regression. The given definition of the word is to go back or return to a previous state. With regards to baseball players, we use the word to describe what is likely to happen to players either over- or underachieving at any given point in a season.

Chipper Jones was hitting .400 halfway through the season. Did we expect him to continue that torrid pace all year? No, his performance was expected to regress as more plate appearances were accrued. The term can be a bit confusing because it so often finds itself used with overachieving players, but, just like Chipper Jones, it goes both ways… to clarify, that’s a switch-hitter joke. Regression can also refer to a player like Robinson Cano, who performed so poorly at the beginning of this year that you knew he just had to get better. His regression resulted in an impovement.

Three pitchers we have discussed multiple times on this site in posts involving this very term are Joe Saunders, Ervin Santana, and Gavin Floyd. All three are in the midst of career years, but either their ERA-FIP differential or true talent projections told us that they would not be very likely to sustain their performance levels all year. Since all three have made 27 starts, let’s compare the first 18 to the most recent 9 (keep in mind that the FIP is crude here, merely adding 3.20 instead of the exact figure):

Joe Saunders, LAA
18: 120.1 IP, 105 H, 14 HR, 31 BB, 63 K, 3.07 ERA, 4.44 FIP
9:  50.1 IP,   62 H,  5 HR, 17 BB, 18 K, 5.19 ERA, 4.79 FIP

Gavin Floyd, CHW
18: 111.2 IP, 87 H, 17 HR, 47 BB, 75 K, 3.63 ERA, 5.10 FIP
9:  55.1 IP,  56 H,  6 HR, 17 BB, 44 K, 3.58 ERA, 3.94 FIP

Ervin Santana, LAA
18: 121.1 IP, 106 H, 12 HR, 32 BB, 112 K, 3.56 ERA, 3.43 FIP
9:  62.1 IP,   57 H,  6 HR, 11 BB,  71 K, 2.70 ERA, 2.89 FIP

Oddly enough, only Saunders has experienced any type of regression over his most recent nine starts. Floyd and Santana have improved. While Floyd’s ERA is essentially the same in the split, his FIP is much better, meaning the performance has been more skill-driven than before. Santana has been pitching lately like the guy on the Mets with the same last name, if not better. With only four or so starts remaining for each of these players, barring some Sabathia-in-April-type performances, not much damage to their overall stat-lines can be done.

Still, one year of data isn’t enough to evaluate a player and the true talent level will still give us a much better estimate. This is why, even though Floyd and Santana are pitching very well, I would have to imagine they do not strike confidence in fans of the South Siders and Halos. The last important thing to remember is that regression does not always result in a bad season. Even though Saunders has performed poorly lately, he is not that bad, and still has a very solid ERA. He isn’t as good as we were “led to believe” early on, but not as bad as his most recent starts. The jury is still out on Floyd and Santana. Hopefully, next year, at this time, we’ll know if they are for real or flashes in the pan.