The BBWAA Did A Great Job
Yesterday, the BBWAA announced the last of their major awards for the 2017 season, with Jose Altuve and Giancarlo Stanton taking home the MVP honors for their respective leagues. And while there were certainly more-than-reasonable cases to be made for the runner-up to take the top spot, the overall results of the voting show that the BBWAA is, more than ever, doing a pretty great job in rewarding the right players for their performances.
The NL MVP ballots, for instance, reflect the difficulty of actually splitting the hairs that separated the two best players in the NL this year. Stanton was named the official winner, but it was basically a tie, with Stanton edging Joey Votto 302 to 300 in voting points. Both players got 10 first place votes. Stanton got one more second place vote and one more third place vote, with Votto getting two more fourth place votes, which proved to be the margin of victory.
That Stanton and Votto, both playing on losing teams, were the consensus best candidates shows how far the voters have come. It wasn’t that long ago that we spent a lot of time trying and failing to convince people to vote for Mike Trout and his +10 WAR seasons as MVP, as the “his team didn’t make the playoffs so he wasn’t valuable” argument gave us all concussions from hitting our heads against a wall. The fact that 10 first place votes were split between Paul Goldschmidt, Nolan Arenado, Charlie Blackmon, and Kris Bryant — each of whom reached the postseason — shows that this idea still has real influence, but it is no longer the gatekeeper of the top of the ballot, which marks real progress.
Of course, there have been years before where a star on a non-contender has won the MVP award, but it’s usually been when that player was overwhelmingly the best player in the league that year. Stanton put up the kind of numbers that, 10 or 20 years ago, probably would have been anointed as that guy, and if the voters had ignored his team’s record, he likely would have won it handily. But despite finishing with 23 fewer home runs, Votto nearly won the award anyway, as the voters recognized the value of his walks and doubles, things that haven’t always been well rewarded in the postseason awards.
And it’s not just the NL MVP that shows voter progress here. The AL MVP debate centered around the two guys worthy of winning, and those two got all 30 of the first place votes. Maybe it was closer between Jose Altuve and Aaron Judge than the 27 to 3 first place vote difference suggests, but Altuve winning is no kind of tragedy, as both were excellent this year. And the middle of the AL ballot is kind of remarkable for its rationality.
Mookie Betts, for instance, finished sixth in the voting, despite hitting .264/.344/.459 on the season, launching just 24 home runs from a corner outfield spot. Betts finished third, fourth, or fifth on half the ballots almost entirely on the strength of his defensive value. For a long time, the MVP award was decidedly almost entirely on offensive value, with just some minor adjustments made for position played, but now we’re at a point where a corner outfielder who put up average offensive numbers is getting significant votes based on his defensive contributions.
Andrelton Simmons finished ahead of Nelson Cruz, who led the league in RBIs, and is exactly the kind of candidate voters have previously overrated. Byron Buxton, who struggled so badly in April that his futility became a national story, was named on three ballots despite putting up a 90 wRC+. This particular crop of AL voters clearly valued defense, and that’s a refreshing change from not very long ago.
In the Cy Young races, whether you agree with Corey Kluber and Max Scherzer winning or not, the candidates were clearly the right ones. The debate didn’t hinge on pitcher wins in any real way, and instead, voters tried to weigh the difference between Scherzer’s quantity and Clayton Kershaw’s quality. Maybe we’d weigh those differences differently, but they certainly asked the right question, and ended up with the right top two.
This year, there’s really nothing to be outraged about. The voters mostly identified the best players, looked at their overall individual performances, and weren’t unduly swayed by the performances of their teammates or some outdated measures of offensive performance. That doesn’t mean there isn’t room for disagreement, or even further improvement — Anthony Rendon continues to be inexplicably underrated — but the kinds of disagreements that these ballots foster are areas where we’re mostly not sure who was actually better. The differences lie in the gray areas where our metrics aren’t precise enough to support a firm conclusion. The conversations are about our uncertainties, and the voters’ admissions of what we know and we don’t know yet.
That doesn’t mean I agree with the named winner of each award, or that every voter’s process makes perfect sense. But the improvements in recent years have been clear, and this year, we have to acknowledge that the voters did an excellent job of determining which players belonged in the discussion, and then mostly had the right kind of conversations about how to tell those players apart.
For years, the BBWAA Awards were a source of constant frustration. Now, they’re probably the most accurate representation of who performed well this past season of any awards out there. So, to the BBWAA, congratulations on being malleable enough to change when necessary. It wasn’t always obvious that would happen, but it has, and it was quite nice to have an awards week where the results almost universally made sense.
Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.
I hope this carries over to the HOF voting.
Minor nitpick, but Jose Ramirez did get a 1st place vote
I believe Jose Ramirez received one vote for first place and Judge received only 2.
One of the weirder things on this ballot too, that both of the more…out of place votes came from the two members of the KC chapter (Mellinger and Dodd). Mellinger voted for Judge at #1, which is understandable but Altuve got almost all the other #1 votes. Dodd voted for Ramirez as #1, the lone dissenter from the Judge/Altuve unanimity.
Dave, any chance of getting MVP/Cy Young winner as a choice on the leaderboards? Like the way you can choose “Rookies”? It would be super cool to be able to easily look back on all the MVP or Cy seasons and see how they’ve changed through time.
I wanted Judge to win, but this was a super close race. Most people who are upset by the disparity fail to realize that it just looks like they dismissed Judge. He got nearly every second place vote, and Altuve got nearly every first place vote.
That’s what any reasonable and fair person should have expected; they would split nearly every first and second place vote.
I’d imagine the voting bloc itself–fewer traditionalists as they retire, more Fangraphs types coming in–is changing, more so than traditionalists beginning to value those walks and doubles. (Which should also hopefully help with tz’s HOF concern.)
Not that we can’t still have fun with some of the goofy down-ballot decisions! Hosmer over Trout! Santana over Severino! (Just one guy in both cases).
Wait a second. 46 doubles, 24 homeruns and 26/29 SB with 100/100 runs+ rbi and a 7%k rate are average these days? Jeez times have changed
Edited for autocorrect
Maybe he should’ve said “average power numbers” instead of “average offensive numbers”?
Mookie Betts hit .264/.344/.459. American League non-pitchers hit .256/.324/.430. Average? No. But Top-6 MVP worthy? Also no. Betts finishing 6th & Andrelton Simmons finishing 8th in the AL clearly, to me, shows defense is being highly valued.
To take it a step forward, the average AL non-pitcher this year recorded a HR/PA rate of .0343, or 24.45 given Betts’ 712 PA. The average AL non-pitcher recorded a 2B/PA rate of .0454, or 32.33 given Betts’ PA total. He was above average there, but also has the benefit of the Green Monster. The average single/PA rate was .1463, or 104.17 for Betts’ PA total. He actually hit 94 singles. The average R/RBI rates were .124 and .118, respectively, or over 712 PA roughly 88 R and 84 RBI. Betts had 101 and 102, respectively, but was also on an above average offensive team that ranked 6th of the 15 AL teams in runs scored.
Was Mookie Betts great? Yeah. Was Mookie Betts great because of just his hitting? No.
You do make a valid point with his baserunning, but just with the bat, he was more kinda good than very good.
His adjusted stats makes his season read “Average bat, excellent base running, for above average offense, combined with great defense”.
Yes 108 wRC+ at the plate is in fact fairly average. His Offense was just above average when you factor in his excellent base running.
108 wrc+ is the answer to your question, league and park adjusted. That’s slightly above average offensively.
In your defense, I also do have a suspicion that his 100+ run/rbi has more to do with his top 6 finish than his WAR.
The MVPs were the batting average leader and the home run leader. Definitely smells a lot more traditionalist than people seem to be admitting.
Bryon Buxton getting a single vote is absurd. He was on and off of his own team’s roster. Watching people who have no understanding of defensive metrics is going to be a comedy as it gains more traction. I predict that defensive metrics will become a decisive issue – just like everything else in this day and age. Some people will question the accuracy of the metric (everyone should question everything that a machine outputs) and even more so the weight of the arbitrary metric. Then there will be the defense-activists who get into a contest to prove that they are more defensive-minded than the other like-minded people. This is how an arms race begins… and I think this is what Buxton getting recognition as one of the best players in the league represents. Look at how progressive I am. I voted for Buxton! You could switch out the names and nouns and make this generalization about a lot of things – but that is just the world we live in.
I could easily see Buxton become one of the better players in the league, but he is certainly not today. That 90 wRC+ overstates his value dramatically. The bulk of that value was accumulated in a short stretch when pitchers had zero respect for him. There is a big difference between being “the guy” in that lineup, like Sano, and being a guy just capitalizing on the fact that you are an afterthought in the lineup. Andrelton Simmons also capitalized on this on 2017. More often than not, Buxton killed his team offensively, which is why just taking a season line is not particularly accurate. I am one of the few people who has not left Buxton for dead… ever, but I don’t have any illusions about what he is currently.
1) “short stretch when pitchers had zero respect for him.” Buxton had above-100 wRC+ values in July, August and September. Last I checked, more games than the entire second half of the season doesn’t count as a short stretch.
2) “‘the guy’ in that lineup.” One can imply, through the on-and-off debunking of lineup protection, that “the guy” doesn’t exist in a lineup. If he did, you’d see a significant impact through lineup protection for “the guy.” (https://www.fangraphs.com/tht/pitching-around-batters/)
3) “Watching people who have no understanding of defensive metrics is going to be a comedy as it gains more traction… Then there will be the defense-activists who get into a contest to prove that they are more defensive-minded than the other like-minded people.” Didn’t know you knew the inner thoughts of every voter and know the thoughts of every voter from here on out…
Buxton had a good year because of the defense, but the only way he deserved an MVP vote is if we are actually vastly UNDERRATING his defense. Maybe that is true, but otherwise, he’s not a top 10 player in either league.
And while I hate to be the negative Nancy, he still hasn’t improved one lick in hitting righties. His numbers vs. righties are nearly identical over the past 3 years. All of his improvement is against lefties.
If I wished to explain why Altuve got the nod over Judge, I would think it would be the consistency factor. Altuve has been very good to great for four seasons. Judge was great but wildly inconsistent this year and awful last year. When given two players about the same value, a useful tiebreaker is the proven track record. It would not anywhere near the top of the list of things that I would decide an MVP, but when it is really close it emerges.
Sadly, I still think voters are reluctant to vote a rookie MVP unless forced (not that I think Altuve is the wrong choice).
This is the real reason. They didn’t want to give a rookie the MVP, unless there was no one else who was close to as valuable. I also think they wanted to reward Altuve for the past handful of years of greatness.
Reverse heightism. I’m telling you !! Have you seen some of these writers ?
I’m taller than Judge and I’m fine with Altuve. My wife thinks he’s “cute,” and calls him “li’l Altuve” as an endearment.
There’s also the fact that Judge was the obvious ROY. I suspect many voters considered at least one of: 1) he’s already getting an award, let’s let the other great guy get one too, and 2) don’t want a rookie without much service time get too big for his britches… I’m not even sure I disagree, or at least I think it’s defensible in a really close race.
To add to the active-over-Judge discussion, Tango wrote a great piece on leverage performance and it’s impact on wins. Essentially, Judge loses 2.4 wins based on his high leverage performances.
http://tangotiger.com/index.php/site/article/re-leveraging-altuve-and-judge
Bill James wrote a similar piece at
https://www.billjamesonline.com/judge_and_altuve/
But did he manage to avoid praising Donald Trump or whatever nonsense it is he believes in these days?
I’ve been trying to figure out why I’ve been so nonchalant about the awards this year, and I think Dave just hit the nail on the head. I just don’t care that much about Sale vs. Kluber, Stanton vs. Votto, or Altuve vs. Judge. There’s not that much to distinguish them, unlike the infamous Trout vs. Cabrera year.
It gives me less to argue about in the comments section, but I will take it.
Not much to distinguish Altuve vs Judge or Stanton vs Votto ? Am I reading this correctly ?
I mean in terms of value. I am 100% sure that if I saw Altuve and Judge walking down the street, I could tell them apart and correctly name them.
But the numbers. One’s a clear power guy, the other is a contact hitter with decent power and great speed. The numbers don’t look alike.
How about K% (12.7% vs 30.7%) ? You can’t distinguish that ??
He said value not numbers. They both have very different ways to get to similar values
@tz It won’t because look at Lou Whitaker being left off the Modern Era ballot.
A mild counterpoint to the “progress” theme: The scant MVP votes for pitchers shows a lack of progress in accepting that they are equally eligible for that award.
Kluber placed 7th in AL MVP despite ranking a close 3rd in both versions of WAR. He got one 3rd-place vote, nothing else above 5th. And no other pitcher did better than one 5th-place vote.
Many voters still won’t put a pitcher high on their MVP ballot unless he’s a runaway leader in value, if at all. It’s understandable that some don’t like having one major award for pitchers alone, while the other is open to everyone. But those rules come from the BBWAA itself, so any voter who can’t abide them should not participate.
Was Kershaw’s light brighter than Scherzer’s? He was off by 1.5 k/9 and 0.19 HR/9, with his only advantage being about 1.0 walk/9. You have to really weight walks a lot more than FIP does to say he our pitched Scherzer per inning. Or (clutches pearls) not believe in deffensive independent pitching.
Given that Strasburg is ahead by 1 fWAR, I’d like to see an article about how Kershaw deserved #2 CYA spot over him. I realize fWAR isn’t perfect, so 1 is enough to make the argument interesting but far from impossible to make.
You have to consider the number of innings pitched. Unlikely Kershaw’s ratios stay that low if he pitched to Max’s workload.
Well, for the Scherzer comparison, I think you have Kershaw winning because you have assume Kershaw’s rate stats would have gotten better in at least K/9 and HR/9.
For the Strasburg comparison there is no need to adjust, they pitched the same number of innings.
I agree with Dave Cameron’s sentiments 100%. Nice job pointing out the significance of the Mookie Betts / Andrelton Simmons finishes, Dave.
Fangraphs writers often take it as a given that team record or team performance should be irrelevant to MVP voting. Placing value on a team winning or making the playoffs remains a valid interpretation of the instructions given to MVP voters. Abandoning this longstanding tradition is not obviously progress. The other parts of the argument are about how you measure performance value, and everyone can agree that including better measures of performance is progress. However, the Fangraphs position that team performance is irrelevant to value as defined by the voting instructions is subjective opinion.
Dave, your overall point is right, of course, but I’m just as interested in your note about Rendon being inexplicably underrated.
Rendon led the league in WAR. That doesn’t guarantee anyone an MVP award, but to lead in WAR and finish outside the top 5 (which Rendon did) would probably require one of the following:
-playing on a losing team (the Nats won 97 games)
-struggles in the Clutch (Rendon’s clutch score was negative, but narrowly better than Votto’s and far better than Stanton’s and Goldschmidt’s)
-overdependence on defense (this may be Rendon’s issue, as he gets a win and a half from his glove, but he had a 142 wRC+, which is better than Arenado and Blackmon, each of whom finished ahead of Rendon, and even with Goldschmidt)
I suppose the explanation is that voters prefer Stanton’s dingers, Votto’s OBP, Arenado’s defensive reputation (and clutch hitting), Blackmon’s raw offense numbers, and Goldschmidt doing the same thing he always does for a team that finally broke through and made the playoffs to Rendon’s all-around excellence. Being good (or even great) at everything but transcendent at nothing has always been a good way to get ignored by the BBWA. But to have the season he did and finish behind Cody Bellinger, Kenley Jansen, and Bryce Harper on individual ballots is hard to explain.