The Cubs And The Best Start Ever

History is amazing in that it matters tremendously and it matters not at all. This is an article about the Cubs so you know that history is a thing for them. On one hand they are the Cubs, baseball’s current definition of mediocrity and failure. Since 1946, the Cubs have no World Series appearances and in fact they’ve only finished in first place five times in that span. That’s five times in 70 years. And that’s only first place in their division. They are historical ineptitude. That’s the backdrop to the 2016 season. It’s also why 2016 could be so important, because, according to our projections, the Cubs have a mean expected win total of 96 games.

Only one other team in baseball is projected to win even 90 games (the Dodgers, at 93 wins). The Cubs are projected by 11 games better than the Cardinals and 12 games better the Pirates, their nearest division rivals. Should these projections pan out, the Cubs would be the best team in baseball by a good amount and the favorite to get to and win the World Series. To sum up, we think Cubs will be very very good and, to bring it back to history, that’s quite weird.

Perhaps the best team of my childhood is the 1984 Detroit Tigers. The Tigers won 104 games during the regular season, then went 7-1 in the playoffs en route to winning the World Series. According to Baseball Reference, the Tigers also lost 58 times that season, but I don’t remember them losing even once so I assume that’s a misprint. The Tigers had the best record in baseball in 1984 season and won the World Series, but that’s not why they are interesting. Every season a team has the best record in baseball and every season a team wins the World Series. Neither is unique. What is unique and interesting though is what the Tigers did at the beginning of the 1984 season. They began the season by going 35-5 in their first 40 games. Their start was so good that second place Toronto went 27-14 during the same span and found themselves 8.5 games back before May had ended. The start wasn’t just good though. It was the best start to any season by any team ever (as long as ever means since 1885).

No team in the last 130 seasons has been better through 40 games than the 1984 Tigers. That’s something. But the Cubs are supposed to be really good. And truthfully, gun to my head, I wouldn’t be shocked if they won more than 96. Projections are often and wisely conservative. There are often outliers. The Cubs have the look of one, at least from where I sit now.

If you haven’t guessed the focus of this article yet, I’m sorry. I probably should have mentioned it earlier but until someone invents a backspace button we’ll all just have to live with overly long opening paragraphs. The question I’m curious about is are the Cubs as good as the Tigers? More specifically, can the Cubs equal or even beat Detroit’s three-decades-plus old record?

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The answer is of course, yes, sure they can. Any team could win 35 of their first 40 games. The Cubs are a team and the Cubs play baseball so the Cubs could do it. We don’t need to run any numbers to know it’s not very likely though. Take the ’84 Tigers, for example. The outcome of one run games are typically thought to be some larger fraction of luck than a typical game. This makes intuitive sense. During their amazing 35-5 run, the ’84 Tigers played 10 one-run games. They went 9-1 in those games. The Tigers were really good, but they were also a bit lucky. To win 35 of their first 40 the Cubs would probably need to be better than the projections think they are, maybe better than we think they are, and then probably a bit lucky too. That’s a tough get. Like one-out-of-3,200-some-odd-baseball-team-seasons tough.

But let’s try to figure this out. The Cubs, should they equal our projections and win 96 games, would have a winning percentage of .593. That means they would be expected to go 24-16 in their first 40 games. To equal the Tigers, the Cubs would have to win 11 more games than we would normally expect them to do based on their projected record. So if we assume the Cubs, a team that wins 59.3% of their games, have the same 59.3% chance to win each game, we could then run some numbers. After messing around for a bit, I came upon binomial distribution. This is a way to math that shows how likely a specific event is to occur in a given number of chances and given a certain percentage chance for each occurrence. In this case, we have that specific event occurring (the Cubs winning) in a given number of chances (35 out of 40 games) and given a certain percentage chance for each occurrence (.593). I should note that binomial probabilities assume that individual trials are independent of each other. That’s not the case with baseball games, but this is numbers and numbers are different than baseball so sometimes that’s just the way it goes.

I did the math and if I’ve mathed correctly, the Cubs have a 0.01% chance to win at least 35 out of 40 with a 59.3% chance of winning each game. You might think that’s a relatively sizable chance considering the feat. Well imagine if the doctor came to you and said, “Bobby, there’s a 0.01% chance we can make you stop smelling like axe body spray.” You would probably break down and cry. “Why!” you’d probably shout, “Why am I destined to spend the rest of my life hearing, ‘oh [gags] that smells like axe body spray’ when I walk into a room?” So you see that it is, you will agree, a very small chance. That makes sense considering we’re talking about tying the very best start by a baseball team in the modern era. And no I’m not counting the 1884 St. Louis Maroons who started their season 36-4 and featured Buttercup Dickerson and no less than six players who have, according to Baseball Reference, a question mark in their last name.

So we agree the Cubs don’t look very likely to do it. We could adjust the numbers a bit — what if the Cubs are really a 98 win team instead of a 96 win team! — but it’s not going to alter the basic point by much. Doing something that is almost never done is inherently very unlikely.

But the ’84 Tigers did it. How unlikely was it for them? A fair question, me. Sadly we don’t have pre-season projections for the ’84 Tigers so I can’t go back and look at what we thought they’d be before they became one of the most dominant teams in in recent decades. I can tell you that the 1983 Tigers won 92 games and finished second in the AL East, six games behind the Orioles. I can also tell you that the ’83 Tigers were a young team that made a few minor additions following the season that might have led one to think they could be a tad bit better. But it’s difficult to imagine a projection system at that time projecting the Tigers for more wins than the 96 that we are projecting this year’s Cubs to win. In fact 96 seems like a reasonable if high guess for the ’84 Tigers without, you know, looking at their record. And that leads us right back to the same 0.01% chance.

So screw it. Suppose we knew or thought we knew before the season that the 1984 Tigers were a mallet-to-the-crotch world-beating baseball team about to win 104 games. How much do those eight extra ‘projected’ wins mean in terms of the Tigers chances to do what they did? To the maths!

Aaaand…

0.093

That is much bigger number, more than nine times bigger! And it’s still way small. Very very small. Even the team that created this crazy record didn’t have much of a chance to do it. It occurs to me that last year we were in roughly the same spot. The Washington Nationals bandwagon was full up, with some projection systems guessing at 100 win seasons. Had I written this article a year ago, I’d have given the Nationals a better chance to best the Tigers than the Cubs have received in the above paragraphs.

And yet the Nationals went 23-17. So close. Going 35-5 out of the box is spectacularly unlikely, even for a team as good as the Cubs project to be. Of course, it was spectacularly unlikely for the Tigers too, and they still did it. Which I suppose is the point of amazing records that stand the test of history like this and like the Cubs themselves. If they were easy to create, who would care?





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The Dude of NY
10 years ago

“I did the math and if I’ve mathed correctly…”

Screw it, just turn math into a verb. Love it!

Hurtlocker
10 years ago

Don’t forget the Tigers went 69-53 the rest of the year after that fantastic start, good but not great. AND Willie Hernandez was the MVP that year, just weird. I really hope the Cubs just blow everyone out this year and win the WS, the fans deserve it.

oh Hal
10 years ago
Reply to  Hurtlocker

Cubs fans make Yankees fans in the heyday seem meek. They actually wave huge flags in opponents stadiums after a win while they sing a victory song. Whether its throwing beer on opposing players, racist chants or just arrogance, they certainly aren’t deserving.

The FO believes that when they win the WS it will be the greatest championship in the history of sports. The media suggest that it would make Epstein the greatest GM in the history of sports. I wonder if that talk started with the FO as well.

Listen, I don’t want them to get what they deserve. It just seems wrong to root for natural disaster or pestilence, but no, no a thousand times, they shouldn’t win the WS.

JimboMember since 2016
10 years ago
Reply to  oh Hal

Huh?

Ozzie Albies
10 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

Cubs fans do Yankees fans bushings air is mild. They really waving flags at the stadium, while rivals after winning songs of victory. If you have a beer in front of the players, posters against racism and arrogance, of course they do not deserve.

FF is said that when you get on back will be greatest champions in the history of Sports. Press reports indicate that the majority of GM Epstein in sports history. I wonder if this story begins with FF.

Look, I do not want them to do what they deserve. It seems as if supporting disaster or plague, but no, no, a thousand times, I have to win VS.

JimboMember since 2016
10 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

Thanks!

Beer
10 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

Cubs fans do have lots of beers in front of the players. And behind them, and to the left of them, and the right….

CosmoMember since 2020
10 years ago
Reply to  oh Hal

There are some ass clown Cubs fans… same as any fanbase, but way to generalize, buddy…

stanMember since 2019
10 years ago

The Cub hype machine is just out of control. Knowing the Cubs as I do, I can practically already feel the crushing disappointment that will follow their failure.

CosmoMember since 2020
10 years ago
Reply to  stan

2003 was the crusher… I do feel this current generation over the next couple of years is probably the best chance they’ll have in my lifetime… with the farm system, front office, manager, team on the field… I can’t imagine them being in a better position… but if they don’t win anything over the next couple of years, personally it won’t feel as bad as 2003. The way that year ended coupled with the ugliness of 2004 claimed a part of me. 07, 08, and last year have not felt the same. I did feel the electricity coming back in the park in July & August, so there’s hope.

stanMember since 2019
10 years ago
Reply to  Cosmo

I don’t know. There was every reason to believe that 2001-2005 period would be the time for the franchise to shine as well. They probably had even more young talent at the time and unlike now much of it was pitching. Their farm system was even better back then with Choi, Hill, Pie and others rising through the system and ready to contribute. 2003 should have been the year, but that group had plenty of reason to think it was just a bump in the road.

The only difference is that Maddon has to be twice the manager that Dusty was.

CosmoMember since 2020
10 years ago
Reply to  stan

I’m just speaking from personal experience. I lived near Wrigley in 03 and was in my 20s. Last season I became a season ticket holder. As the season wore on, I could feel the atmosphere in the park changing. I know and can see that this team is special, but 03 hurt and I haven’t felt the same excitement about any team since then. It could be totally different for those in their 20s now. I will risk the feeling of being crushed if I could feel that excitement again. I’m just not sure if I’m able to.

jhalpin23
10 years ago
Reply to  stan

The 2001-2005 teams definitely had a lot of talent, obviously on the pitchers side in particular but to say they had more young talent than now is not accurate. Corey Patterson and Aramis Ramirez were the only regulars under 30 on the offensive side of the ball. Wood, Prior and Zambrano were a phenomenal young trio which the Cubs can’t match now on the pitching side with youth but Bryant, Russell, Schwarber, Rizzo, Heyward, Soler and Baez are all 26 or under.

Also, the Cubs farm back then wasn’t that impressive either with 4 guys in the top 100. Even after all the promotions they have more than that now and it’s really their depth that is the strength of the system.

None of this is to say the Cubs are guaranteed anything, you never know what is going to happen but with the major talent on the hitting side as opposed to pitching I would expect (hope) there will be less volatility and injuries. You are definitely right the manager is far so superior and so is the front office. They are set up really well now all Cubs fans can do is hope for the best!

CosmoMember since 2020
10 years ago
Reply to  stan

I think you said it well at the end… I feel that the front office has done their part and put the team in the best position that they could. Now it’s up to chance…

TheYellowHammer
10 years ago
Reply to  Cosmo

Did someone mention crushing Cubs losses?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugOdiF1y2E0

CosmoMember since 2020
10 years ago

I was in third grade for that. We were visiting my great uncle in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. I wasn’t totally sure what was going on, but I knew the Cubs were up… and then it was over.

rounders
10 years ago

23-17

maumanntsMember since 2022
10 years ago

The Cubs have had that kind of success before, although none of us were around to see it. Over a 50-game stretch in 1906, Chicago went 45-5 (and 50-8). So it can be done, although it’s incredibly rare for a team to win more than 85 percent of its game over a prolonged span.

The 1981 Tigers lost to the Brewers on the last day of the season to miss the strike-expanded playoffs, then were close in 1982 and 1983. They only needed a few additions, although I’d quibble that they were “minor.”

Darrell Evans was signed as a free agent (105 OPS+) over the winter and they got MVP/Cy Young winner Willie Hernandez (204 ERA+) and Dave Bergman (115 OPS+) in a trade with the Phillies for Glenn Wilson and John Wockenfuss.

Not only did the ’84 Tigers start the season 9-0, but then they lost once, had another seven-game win streak to get to 16-1, won three, lost two in a row, had another seven-game win streak to get to 26-4, lost one and another nine-game win streak to get to 35-5. That’s two nine-game and two seven-game winning streaks in a 40-game span.

And with Alan Trammell falling off the balloting, that team is one of less than a handful of World Series champions without a Hall of Famer. Shocking and sad.

formerly matt wMember since 2025
10 years ago
Reply to  maumannts

Last year the Cubs went on a 21-4 streak. Someone at Bucs Dugout asked what the longest stretch of .840 ball ever was and I guessed it was probably those 1906 Cubs, who finished the season going 64-12 plus ties.

rekameohs
10 years ago

How about the odds that the Cubs start off 5-35?

Yehoshua Friedman
10 years ago

Trammell should be in the HOF. Cubs should win one already. I don’t care whether you like the Cub fans or not. I happen to know some very fine deserving Cub fans anyway.

Wu-Bacca
10 years ago

If this article is serious it’s embarrassing. If it’s a parody of some sort (I honestly can’t tell) it’s even more embarrassing.

Wu-Bacca
10 years ago
Reply to  Matthew Kory

I just couldn’t make heads or tails out of it. If the point was to honor and reminisce about the ’84 Tigers (I remember that team well, and, like you, their 35-5 start had a kind of talismanic power over my friends and me), then why make such a wide detour by talking speculatively about the 2016 Cubs? And if the point was to discuss the 2016 Cubs, why take the tack of wondering what they’d do over their first 40 games? It just seemed like such an eccentric apples-and-oranges idea that I honestly had to read the article twice to see if I was missing something.

Rational FanMember since 2020
10 years ago

“But the Cubs are supposed to be really good. And truthfully, gun to my head, I wouldn’t be shocked if they won more than 96.”

Well, there Vegas win total opened at 89, and can be had under 92 at multiple outs.

If you think they are going to win more than 96 games, that means you have a 24% edge against the market line. Screw the gun to your head, run to Vegas and bet all you can on the Cubs; because what the market has set at 91, you feel should be 97%. Meaning you have a 74% expected win rate when it is priced out at 50/50. Talk about an edge!

Rational FanMember since 2020
10 years ago

Also, the Mariners won 116 games. That was kind of good.

This article is calling the Cubs the best team of a generation when they haven’t won or played a single game yet. It’s pretty funny.

Rational FanMember since 2020
10 years ago
Reply to  Matthew Kory

Seemed implied based on the premise.

That said, I critique every Cub article Matthew on here. Don’t take it personally.

Curious Gorge
10 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

He’s a Sox fan… take it with a grain of salt 😉

jhalpin23
10 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

Implied by the premise? Maybe, if you are trying really hard to get upset about something but actually reading it he says nothing close to it.

“But the Cubs are supposed to be really good. And truthfully, gun to my head, I wouldn’t be shocked if they won more than 96. Projections are often and wisely conservative. There are often outliers. The Cubs have the look of one, at least from where I sit now.”

Optimism for the team but hardly calling them the best of a generation, in fact:
“Had I written this article a year ago, I’d have given the Nationals a better chance to best the Tigers than the Cubs have received in the above paragraphs.”

Wow he does predict them as the most impressive preseason team since going all the way back to 2015!

Keep fighting the really weird fight Rational Fan

NotAnotherPun
10 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

“I critique every Cub article on here.” I’ve never understood this line of thinking. I’m a Cubs fan, so by necessity I believe the Cardinals are in fact devil birds that bring nothing but destruction and warm beer. However, I still respect them and their history. But going so far to critique a writer’s piece regardless of its quality because it’s about a certain team seems even worse. I consider myself a fan of baseball first, and a Cubs fan second, an idea I hope catches on.

Rational FanMember since 2020
10 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

The Cardinals have a history to respect.

The Cub fans have the arrogance of a Yankee fan, but they haven’t won anything in 100+ years.

What is their to respect about the Cubs history?

Fangraphs has been very Cub heavy the past year – for reasons that make sense, I never argued that – but someone has to keep it honest on the other side. They still haven’t won anything.

Cub fans have unwarranted arrogance.

Curious Gorge
10 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

And because Sox fans worry more about the Cubs than their own team.

NotAnotherPun
10 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

The only arrogance I see is someone using the excuse of keeping it honest for the other side to put down a team and its fans.

jhalpin23
10 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

I’ve seen no evidence that Cubs fans are more arrogant than any other fan base. The Cubs have a pretty large following so of course there’s going to be some bad with the good but in most cases I’ve just seen excitement from the fan base. You said it yourself, the Cubs haven’t had a ton is success so the fanbase is very excited about having a team that should be successful for the next few years. If anyone is giving a teams fanbase a bad name it’s someone who blatantly admits that they troll every Cubs article with negative comments.

Brians Sticky Sock
10 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

Well because the Sox won in 05 and the Cubs failed in 03, Sox fans feel that they’re the experts on winning and it’s their duty to keep Cubs fans in place, nevermind the fact that since 05 the Cubs have made the playoffs three times and all the Sox have is the blackout game.

Psychic... Powerless...
10 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

“I critique every Cub article… on here.”

Now that you’ve admitted to being immature and closed-minded, what makes you think anyone is interested in your “critiques?”

Psychic... Powerless...
10 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

And by the way, Webster’s defines critique as “a careful judgment in which you give your opinion about the good and bad parts of something.”

The only arrogant comment I’ve read on this page is when you called your troll-like comments a critique.

Rational FanMember since 2020
10 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

Interesting. I’m pretty sure I broke down the math on the odds of the Cubs winning more than 96 games based on their market value. I thought that was a critique.

I love how angry most of the Cub respondents get. I don’t take personal shots and don’t care all that much; it’s humorous to poke fun at a fanbase that talks down on the fanbase I am a part of. It’s simply banter.

What other organization in all of sports would continue to argue about “having a much higher attendance” than another fanbase as if it meant anything? What other fanbase would associate the cities “minorities” as Sox fans in what is supposed to be an “insult.” I know, I know… that’s just a few “bad apples.”

When Milton Bradley called Cub fans racist, Cub fans just called him unstable and a liar. Then Derrick Lee backed up the claim:

http://www.bleachernation.com/2011/04/30/derrek-lee-confirms-that-african-american-cubs-players-received-racist-hate-mail/

The Bleachers is widely considered as the most racist outfield fans in baseball against black players. Black players themselves have said it.

It’s more than “a few bad apples.” The fanbase has a reputation and it’s not a good one.

Original Greaser Bob
10 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

Derpy derp derp derpy derp. Derrrrrrrp.
– Google translator

output gap
10 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

Remember when Sox fans would attack the opposing teams’ first base coaches like Tom Gamboa? Obviously, all the Sox fans are violent and angry.

Oh wait, no they aren’t, because that’s generalizing a big population.

Rational Fan, go troll somewhere else.

jdbolickMember since 2016
10 years ago
Nivra
10 years ago

You’re missing a “%” on the 0.093, which is a pretty big deal, because 0.093 probability is 900 times better than the Cubs, not 9x.

sevencostanza
10 years ago

So the Dodgers are projected to win 93 wins? Despite Vegas predicting the Giants neck and neck, until recently, second to the Cubs to win it all. OK.

As far as the arrogance goes, if you havent won anything, then you have nothing to be arrogant about. WE have won 3 World Series Championships, in the past 6 years, and I can count one one hand the number of times I have met a Giant fan braggin about it. Met two Cubs fans recently one was respectful and said the goal is to be like you guys, you guys are the standard. That was humbling. Bought him a beer. The second was some POS who could care less whos won or any history for that matter. Hes so big n the Cubs hype machine that I called him out for wanting to suck Kris Bryants D**K already. LOUD. In the bar. I live in Giants country, and anyone talkin like that is gonna get his. Despite our intense 100 year rivalry, I will say this for Dodgers fans, they are respectful of the rivalry, and of the players. Ive already met quite a few “colorful” Cubs fans that act as if its a sure thing. THATS the lack of respect for the game and for winning it all. Because until you do, you have no idea the mindset and physical, mental, and emotional stimulation and drainage that it has on you. THATS why you never hear anyone that has won it saying stupid $hit. Arrogance is for losers, literally