The Draft Thoughts and Info Baumann Couldn’t Keep to Himself

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As the draft comes to an end, I find that even after writing a number of articles about this class, I still have more to say. So now that the tables are being folded up and the bartender is cleaning out the taps, here’s an offering of potpourri from draft season: Stray anecdotes and quotes from the combine, or bits of analysis, that never found a home in an article.

Last week, I wrote about the top of this draft being loaded with Tennessee players, and sure enough: Three Vols went off the board in the first round, with four more going between picks no. 33 and 72.

But you could argue that the real school of the draft was Corona High School of California, which had right-hander Seth Hernandez go to the Pirates sixth overall, shortstop Billy Carlson go to the White Sox at pick no. 10, and third baseman Brady Ebel go to Milwaukee at pick no. 32. (In an amusing coincidence, Carlson is committed to Tennessee, though after he went in the top 10, I doubt we’ll ever see him in Knoxville except as a tourist.)

Carlson has some yellow flags on his profile: While he’s a stupendous defensive shortstop, he turns 19 in two weeks. His 185-pound frame is not especially imposing in a world where top shortstop prospects look like Konnor Griffin. And there are some minor but non-trivial questions about how his bat will translate to the pros.

Carlson did come out of the gate swinging when I interviewed him at the combine. He said one team had asked him what could go wrong that would prevent him from making the majors. Carlson’s answer: “A car crash.”

He went on to say that during his interviews, he was telling teams that he had his own training methods he wasn’t willing to compromise on. Better to make that known now, he said, rather than risk a clash over it after the team had already spent a high pick on him.

“I go against the grain a little bit in the weight room,” Carlson explained. “If having big legs helped you hit the ball a million miles, I’d be the last person picked. I’m a very small, skinny guy, kind of like a greyhound. I’m not a pit bull, so I don’t think I should train like one. I’ve done that in the past, and I haven’t seen the results I wanted.”

What does training like a greyhound look like?

“For example, I’ll do the bench press, but the weights will be hanging from the bar with bands,” he said. “You’re doing it, but it’s shaking you around, and you have to stabilize your core. I feel like you use your core a lot when you hit, and hitting is not one isolation of one muscle. It’s a group of muscles doing the majority of the work.”

I don’t know enough about working out to have a strong opinion on whether Carlson is right or wrong, but I do like to see a draft prospect — especially a high schooler — taking ownership not only over his own training regimen, but over what organization might want to pick him. And Carlson’s framing, that he’s just helping teams make an informed decision about him, seems reasonable. Communication is the key to a healthy relationship. Nevertheless, it is unusual to see an 18-year-old tell a major league team not to draft him if they don’t like the way he benches.

“I feel like I’ve earned the privilege,” Carlson said. “I played pretty well this spring, and if I didn’t, then I probably wouldn’t be in the position I’m in now to be able to call a little bit of the shots. I feel like, if you’re taking me with your first pick, you’re doing it for a reason, right? Like, I could be the face of the organization. So let’s do this thing, and let me be me, and let me help you win some games.”

Eric Longenhagen had Carlson ranked 12th on his draft board and mocked him to the Cardinals with pick no. 5. On Sunday night, Liam Doyle unexpectedly fell to no. 5, knocking Carlson back to the 10th pick and Chicago. In other words, it doesn’t seem like Carlson’s strong opinions on training hurt his draft stock any in the end.

Eric gave the Athletics high marks for their Day One haul, taking Jamie Arnold at no. 11 and Indiana outfielder Devin Taylor at no. 48. My feelings about Arnold are well known, and while I like him more than Eric does, both of us were high on Taylor, a three-time First Team All-Big Ten honoree.

Taylor isn’t a huge guy, only 6-foot-1, but he’s rock-solid and he can flat-out hit. He’s Indiana’s career home run leader, with 54 dingers in 169 career games. (Kyle Schwarber played in a much less hitter-friendly era, but even so, he only managed 40 bombs in his 180 games for the Hoosiers.) Taylor has power to all fields, and he’s incredibly consistent; he hit .300/.400/.600 all three years at Indiana, and he hit .296/.397/.510 last summer on the Cape as well.

Taylor swings that bat hard.

“I just try to keep it as simple as possible,” Taylor said. “In the past few years, I’ve gotten to a point where I’ve gotten pitched around. I’ll get one to two pitches in an at-bat, and it’s about how can I get my A-swing off and capitalize on those one to two pitches I get in the zone?”

As much as Taylor has been consistent over his time in Bloomington, he’s also made steady improvements, chiefly in his plate discipline. As a junior, he walked 19.3% of the time, with a strikeout rate of just 11.2%.

He also seems like a pleasant person to be around. Taylor was my last interview of the combine, and, being a little tired and punchy after talking to a cavalcade of amateur ballplayers, I took suggestions from the internet on some fun questions I could ask. The winner: “If you and your team were in a Donner Party situation, which of your teammates would you eat first?”

Taylor needed a second to answer — apparently kids these days aren’t up on their historical instances of cannibalism — but he landed on a good candidate: freshman catcher Hogan Denny.

Why?

“We call him Beef.”

RJ Austin played all over the place at Vanderbilt. He started at second base as a freshman, first base as a sophomore, and then center field this past season, where he won a collegiate Gold Glove. In three years of college, he appeared in at least one game at every position except pitcher, catcher, and right field. (Though he did get into a couple games in right on the Cape, so we know he at least knows where it is.)

“I like playing multiple positions,” Austin said. “It’s a lot of fun, but I feel like center field is my favorite for sure.”

What’s the key to playing good center field defense?

“Anticipating everything and being ready at the pitch,” Austin said. “Outfield is a position where you can get bored out there. Balls don’t come out there, so you can get lazy, end up not paying attention. But it’s one of those things where even in practice, I run into the wall to catch the ball, because if you’re not doing that in practice, you’re going to shock yourself in the game. If you’re in the game, it should be like second nature.”

There are some real questions about Austin’s bat in the pros; he hit .257/.353/.383 as a junior. But this season his coach, Tim Corbin, gave one of my favorite compliments I’ve ever heard about a player: “He plays the game, I’m not gonna say recklessly, but he plays the game ferociously.”

What a wonderfully vivid adverb. What does Austin think about it?

“It means I play my heart out every time I’m out there,” he said. “It’s just one of those things where, whenever I’m on the field, I’m trying to beat the opponent, no matter what, no matter what I have to do.”

The Orioles took Austin 93rd overall, and if you’re starting to feel like you’ve heard of Baltimore drafting a Gold Glove-winning Vanderbilt center fielder with questions about his hit tool before, fear not. We all remember Enrique Bradfield Jr. Especially Austin, who looked up to his once and future teammate when they played together in 2023.

“Leadership,” Austin said when I asked him what he’d learned from Bradfield. “He always knew what to say to me to give me the right mindset. He knows how it feels to have all the lights on you, all the cameras on you, so he taught me the way. Just watching him be mature about how he took everything. He was professional. You never, never saw him sweat, even when he was striking out. Like, you’d never know if he was going 0-for-4 or 4-for-4. Learning those things really helped me as a player.”

Carlson might not think having thick legs helps much, but Michael Salina does. Salina was the Padres’ fourth-round pick, and if a pitcher goes that high out of St. Bonaventure despite currently being on the mend from Tommy John surgery, he must be good. Well, Salina’s fastball topped out at 102 before his elbow blew out.

While his throwing arm is healing up, Salina has been blasting the legs. Here’s a video from May of Salina, his right arm in a brace, squatting 485 pounds.

“It just helped me so much in going from the guy who got under-recruited in high school, being up to 91, to the guy who throws 100,” Salina said.

I asked Salina how much he wants to have on the rack by the time he starts throwing again, and while he tried to walk it back later, he threw the number 600 out there.

Back when I was covering college baseball more closely, I kept getting attached to toolsy college center fielders with hit tool questions. I actually think I was a pretty decent evaluator in general back then, but players like this kept pulling me in and completely face-planting once they got to the pros. Brandon Downes, David Martinelli, Jeren Kendall — the list goes on. Whatever I did, I couldn’t quit.

Toolsy college center fielders with hit tool questions are like the toxic ex who I can’t keep myself from texting at 2 a.m. Eventually, I just blocked this prospect type’s number and moved on with my life.

Then I saw George Mason outfielder James Quinn-Irons work out at the combine, and I am ready to throw it all away again. Quinn-Irons put up big exit velo numbers — sixteen of his 26 batting practice hits left the bat at 100 mph or more, topping out at 112.1, and seven of those balls traveled 385 feet or more. Only six hitters hit the ball harder; all six are corner guys and four of them went on Day One. Quinn-Irons might look like a corner guy, at 6-foot-5, 230 pounds, but he’s a center fielder who ran in the high 3.6s and stole 36 bases in 61 games this past year. I know George Mason isn’t exactly an SEC team, but he also hit .419/.523/.734.

Now for some damning with faint praise. Quinn-Irons made some of the best throws I saw during outfield drills, though his arm strength and accuracy came with a Henry Rowengartner-like hitch in his throwing motion. Eric ranked him 83rd; he wrote that Quinn-Irons “posted some of the best peak exit velocities in college baseball this year, and [he] owns a 90% zone contact rate. He managed that even though his swings are often awkward and ill-timed. Does not consistently look comfortable in the box, lower half and upper half frequently disconnected.”

I’m ready to get hurt again. It’s going to be messy. Bring a mop.

You know who else is ready to get hurt? The Rays, who in my opinion got an absolute steal by taking Quinn-Irons in the fifth round, not long after they snapped up Texas high school catcher Taitn Gray, another combine exit velo monster. The Quinn-Irons pick is my favorite of the whole draft. Whether that means it’s a good pick depends on whether my judgment has gotten better since the mid-2010s. We shall see.





Michael is a writer at FanGraphs. Previously, he was a staff writer at The Ringer and D1Baseball, and his work has appeared at Grantland, Baseball Prospectus, The Atlantic, ESPN.com, and various ill-remembered Phillies blogs. Follow him on Twitter, if you must, @MichaelBaumann.

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kipsoothMember since 2019
22 days ago

Carlson’s probably justified in following his own regimen and not the White Sox’s.

Ostensibly RidiculousMember since 2020
22 days ago
Reply to  kipsooth

Chris Getz probably saw that as a big positive

MikeSMember since 2020
22 days ago
Reply to  kipsooth

That seems to be how they develop players in general. “There’s the equipment, there’s the field, go get better.”

brianjamesMember since 2020
22 days ago
Reply to  kipsooth

In this case the kid clearly doesn’t know much about weightlifting. If he’s concerned about his core strength he shouldn’t use an upper body pressing lift to target it. And I’m pretty sure big muscles helped Sosa/McGwire/Canseco/Bonds/ARod/Sheffield/Palmeiro

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
22 days ago
Reply to  brianjames

I mean…take another look at what he said.

It’s not “I bench to build my core strength.”

It’s “I’m so focused on core strength that I even modify my bench to incorporate core stability work.”

CC AFCMember since 2016
22 days ago

Yeah, generally speaking, I’d like my guys to be open to the ideas of my team’s strength and conditioning programs which *should*, if I have a proper organization, be an elite baseball centric program. I didn’t see that he’s not open to suggestion but he clearly has his own ideas and is going to continue doing his things.

But hey, Tom Brady famously worked with a lunatic trainer to the exclusion of most the Patriots stuff, so who knows?

Shirtless George Brett
22 days ago
Reply to  CC AFC

The brady weird workout stuff has always struck me as a bit of a ruse to create/promote his fitness business (which he absolutely has now with his TB12 stuff. A collab between him and the lunatic trainer you mentioned).

In reality he appears to have worked out pretty normally for a QB with the team and in the offseason including spending alot of time with well known QB guru Jordan Palmer.

The lunatic stuff feels 100% like the usull fitness influencer BS to make money.

Last edited 22 days ago by Shirtless George Brett
Shirtless George Brett
22 days ago

It’s “I’m so focused on core strength that I even modify my bench to incorporate core stability work.”

All that shows is he has no idea what he is doing. That movement (bench with hanging weights) is not for your core, its for shoulder stabilization. Its not doing anymore for your core than regular bench. Its also stupid because it takes pretty much all the point out of doing bench press in the first place (IE: to build strength).

Just do regular bench and then core work instead of trying to mash them together and making both worse.

Last edited 22 days ago by Shirtless George Brett
Shirtless George Brett
22 days ago
Reply to  brianjames

It honestly sounds like a kid who watched too much trendy influencer workout stuff on youtube (or tiktok? I’m old) that is mostly nonsense. Getting bigger/stronger is actually relatively simple. All this “do squats while balanced on a ball” “or bench with weights hanging off bands” stuff is just click bait BS. Influencers need to stand out so they come up with these eye catching exercises (usually accompanied with pseudo science explanation) to get peoples attention.

Do deadlifts. Do squats. Do pullups. Throw in some sport specific variations and core work (actual core work, not this nonsense) paired with a good diet and that’s all you need. As much as the internet makes it seem like it, getting stronger is not rocket science.

While its cool that is he so keyed in on his strength training its also a bit concerning that a teenager thinks he has everything figured out and isn’t interested at all in listening to a MLB org with pretty much infinite resources and experience in that aspect (especially when his own knowledge appears to be pretty lacking). Feels like a huge red flag to me.

Last edited 22 days ago by Shirtless George Brett
Silver KingMember since 2024
21 days ago

I don’t know squat, ahem, about weightlifting, but Shirtless’s argument is compelling.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
22 days ago
Reply to  kipsooth

When I read that, I thought “oh, now I know why he fell to #10.”

Like, the scouting report on him is really good, even Eric’s (and he is not given to hyperbole). A 50 hit, 55 game (60 raw), 60 field, 70 arm is a regular all-star. The tool grades are better than basically any other position player in the draft, except for maybe Ethan Holliday’s. But if there is one thing that teams do not want is a guy they think isn’t coachable. Like CC AFC says above:

Yeah, generally speaking, I’d like my guys to be open to the ideas of my team’s strength and conditioning programs which *should*, if I have a proper organization, be an elite baseball centric program.

But hey with the White Sox, who knows?