The Dylan Bundy Hype Train Is Finally Boarding
The Baltimore Orioles’ vision from 2012 is almost fully formed. In 2011, they selected Dylan Bundy with the fourth-overall pick in the draft, and the following year, they did the same with Kevin Gausman. In 2013, Bundy was the No. 2 overall prospect in the game, according to Baseball America. He was Lucas Giolito. Gausman was No. 26 — he was Jose Berrios. Now, three years later, it’s 2016, and the club is in first place. It’s all going to plan. The Orioles are leading the American League East, and it’s all thanks to their dominant starting rotation, led by workhorse aces Bundy and Gausman — among the most dominant one-two punches in the league.
I’m sorry, what’s that? Everything’s true except for the last part? You’re telling me the Orioles are in first place, but their rotation has a 5.00 ERA? They just traded for Wade Miley? Gausman’s never thrown more than 115 innings in a season and has a career-worst 4.45 FIP and Bundy’s only made three major-league starts? Three?
So, maybe the vision from 2012 isn’t fully realized. But the Orioles are winning, and, despite a bit of a circuitous route in getting there, this is the closest that vision’s ever come to being a reality. Because Dylan Bundy is a starter now. Alongside Gausman in the major leagues, and for the first time in their careers, finally. We’ve been waiting for this for years. And, at the risk of delving too deep into sports talk radio host jargon, Bundy feels like he could be a massively important piece for an Orioles club that badly needs a shot in the arm if it wants to make a deep postseason run. I swear I’m not going to use the phrase “X-Factor.”
I want to make it clear: Bundy’s shown very little. Often times, these posts provide one reason or another to believe in a player, whether it be a mechanical change, or a new pitch, or a revamped approach, and we all come away feeling more confident about the player in question. This is a less a persuasive essay regarding the virtues of Bundy’s abilities and moreso an advocation of intrigue. Bundy’s got it in spades; he always has. And deep down, I think we all want him to succeed. No one wants it more than the Baltimore Orioles. They need it.
He’s made three starts. The numbers, overall, haven’t been great. Mostly due to the first one being a real clunker against the Rays, but I’m willing to give that a pass. It doesn’t even sound believable for that to have been Bundy’s first career major-league start. You know how long Bundy’s been wanting that start? We’ll let that one slide. The next one came against the Indians, and it was a beauty. He only lasted five innings — he’s on a pretty strict pitch count — but the five innings were clean. The only run was unearned. Nobody walked, nobody homered. Bundy struck out five and, at times, looked unhittable. He looked even more unhittable in his next outing against the Rockies, because he went perfect through five innings. After facing 15 Rockies hitters, Bundy had struck out eight. On the heels of the Cleveland game, it was the most promising Bundy’s ever looked.
Things came apart in the sixth, with a walk and a couple of homers, and that’s the thing about Bundy — he’s got no experience working through major-league lineups for a third time. He’s got no experience going 90 pitches and six innings deep into a game. He’s not going to be a workhorse — not this year. But you look for the flashes. This page, from the Pitcher List, is full of them. Twelve flashes, rendered into high-definition .gif form. It’s beautiful. Bundy’s always had the raw stuff. That much is undeniable.
Another flash isn’t a flash at all. It’s a steady, bright light. I know I said this wasn’t as much a persuasive piece, but we can’t ignore this much. This much is exciting. Bundy spent the first chunk of the year working out of the Orioles’ bullpen. Here’s this season’s average fastball velocity plotted by game, with the red line splitting the bullpen work and the rotation work:

If there’s one thing we all understand about the difference between the way a pitcher works as a reliever and the way a pitcher works as a starter, it’s that the reliever-version can throw harder. Almost always does throw harder. Doesn’t have to worry about saving his stuff. When a starter goes to the ‘pen, we expect an extra tick or two. Vice versa the other way around.
Bundy, understandably, had to build the velocity up at the beginning of the year — even out of the bullpen. He just hasn’t thrown many innings lately, and the arm strength needed time. And he gradually built his way up to sitting 96 or so — about where we’d expect him to sit when working an inning or two at a time in relief. But then he went to the rotation, and he held it. In three starts, Bundy’s fastball’s sat 94.5. In his 22 relief appearances, he averaged 93.9. Granted, Bundy’s on a pitch count, so even as a starter he doesn’t have to worry about going too deep, but he’s still turning the lineup over, and he’s doing it with his reliever velocity. It can only be a positive sign.
The other area of intrigue is Bundy’s pitching without a weapon. The Orioles, see, don’t like cutters. And so even though Baseball America called Bundy’s cutter “a third plus fastball” in their 2011 post-draft scouting report, the Orioles told him to scrap it the following season, and he’s still pitching without it. Bundy doesn’t throw a slider either, and so, without the cutter, he doesn’t have a traditional “break-away-from-righties” pitch to rely on. The curve is there, but the curve hasn’t been a great weapon yet — he’s not getting batters to swing at it, and even when they do, it’s not missing bats.
Enter the change. As a starter, Bundy’s gone to the changeup more than a quarter of the time, way up from his usage out of the bullpen. And he’s not discriminating, either, throwing it for two of every 10 pitches against righties and working it inside, as we’re seeing pitchers do more often these days. Bundy’s getting tons of swings and tons of whiffs on the changeup, and it could just be his answer to the missing cutter.
The bigger question is: can Bundy be the answer to the Orioles’ missing rotation? Thanks to his early-season relief work, the plan is for Bundy to remain in the rotation the rest of the year. The answer’s not going to be Wade Miley — he’s just an unexciting, generic, innings-eating sponge. It’s not Yovani Gallardo — he might not be anything at this point. It’s probably not Chris Tillman or Gausman — we’ve seen enough of them by now to expect some dimming after we see the flashes. But that’s the thing about Bundy. We just don’t know.
You never know just how long to dream on hype, but until you’ve been burned by it, it’s just about impossible to quit. We haven’t even had the opportunity to be burned by Bundy’s hype yet, and so here we are. He might not be able to pitch deep into ballgames, but with Baltimore’s bullpen, they might not need him to. Certainly not in the postseason, if they get there. If they do get there, it probably means the rotation turned things around the rest of the way. And if the rotation turns things around the rest of the way, I’ve got a hunch where the difference might have come from. Told you I wasn’t going to use the phrase “X-Factor.”
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You have the draft years reversed, Bundy was 2011 and Gausman was 2012.
I just don’t understand why they tell their starters to stop throwing the cutter, I understand if the guy isn’t good throwing it but telling a guy that throws a good cutter to stop throwing it just seems stupid. “Hey, we’re going to draft you but you know that pitch that’s gotten you here? Yeah, you can’t throw it anymore.” There’s a guy up in Chicago that proves they shouldn’t be telling guys to stop doing what made them successful in the first place. No wonder they have a awful starting rotation and have for years.
Well this is the reason so many of us Orioles fans will be glad to see Duquette, and with him Peterson, go. “Prescription pitching” doesn’t make sense. There are sound reasons, as that link above describes, for not allowing young pitchers to become too reliant on cutters, but that doesn’t mean that you should prevent somebody who possesses a good cutter from throwing it occasionally, say ~10% of the time, to keep the hitters guessing. Peterson is the problem with all of the young pitchers; according to an article in the Baltimore Sun he is disliked by many of the young arms we have in the system because he wants all starters to have the same mechanics. (Think what would’ve happened if he got his hands on somebody like Chris Sale.) Unfortunately, he was hired by Duquette and they’re on the same page. So we’ll just have to suffer this silliness for a couple more years until Duquette’s contract expires.
You must be a relatively new Orioles fan if you’re itching to run off the general manager who has overseen two playoff appearances in his four seasons (and looking like three out of five if the rest of this season holds up) when the team had posted a losing record for fourteen straight seasons before he came on board. Count me as one Orioles fan who is very grateful for Duquette and hopes that he stays around for years to come.
Just for context:
Orioles under Duquette – 414-338 (.551)
Fourteen years pre-Duquette – 990-1276 (.437)
No, actually I’ve been following the Orioles since 1968. And I remember one guiding principle the GMs of the ’60s and ’70s had: keep the farm system stocked. Do you see that with Duquette?
I credit McPhail, his predecessor, for laying the groundwork for much of the Orioles success in recent years. He drafted Wieters, Bundy and Machado. He brought Schoop into our organization. He’s the one who crafted that deal with Seattle that brought Baltimore Adam Jones and Chris Tillman in exchange for Erik Bedard, and he’s the one who acquired Chris Davis from Texas. He is the one who acquired J.J. Hardy. And most important: he’s the one who hired Buck Showalter to guide the team.
Duquette has made some smart moves—Chen and Trumbo most notably—but our farm system has gotten weaker under his management and that’s not a good idea for a mid-market team. We needed a decent starter this trade deadline and because we have little to offer from our system to anybody, we had to settle for Miley.
You credit Duquette for improving our winning percentage since 2011; I credit McPhail and Showalter.
You could make a similar argument with Duquette’s time in Boston, it didnt really pay off until he was gone but a lot of the guys on that 2004 Championship team were his guys. Duquette knows what he is doing.
That obviously isn’t Duquette’s strength, as he’s much better with picking up undervalued major league assets, which is why the team has been winning so much more under him than his predecessors. The reality is that the Orioles’ farm system hasn’t been “stocked” in decades, so this is not a new phenomenon.
He did not draft Wieters. MacPhail joined the organization two weeks after the 2007 draft. He did choose Machado, who has been amazing, but in fairness any GM would have taken him. Harper, Taillon, and Machado were the consensus top three prospects in the 2010 draft. MacPhail gets credit for not screwing that up, but it’s not exactly like he uncovered a gem. And besides Machado, there’s really not much to show for MacPhail’s drafts so far. Brian Matusz, Xavier Henry, L.J. Hoes and the rest of the 2008 class did nothing. The only thing to show from the 2009 class has been Mychal Givens’ 77.2 pretty good innings. Matt Hobgood, Tyler Townsend, and the rest of the group did nothing. From 2010, Manny Machado has been a lifesaver while the rest of the group did nothing. The 2011 class has combined for 3.5 bWAR, but hopefully Bundy adds substantially to that in the coming years.
I agree that those are some great moves by MacPhail. Unfortunately the rest of his moves weren’t enough to turn the Orioles into a winning team. Remember, it’s not just that the Orioles had one fluke season when Duquette took over, they have not had a losing season since he arrived while Baltimore never even managed to reach 70 wins under MacPhail. Duquette added a lot of talent to the roster that turned them from perennial losers into perennial winners. There’s no rationality behind your hatred of Duquette. He’s been undeniably great for the Orioles and you’re absolutely crazy for wanting him gone.
I can’t respond in a detailed fashion (btw: I don’t hate DD) because my computer (shockwave) keeps crashing after I type more than a few lines. Some kind of compatibility issue with this site and some others since I upgraded to Windows 10.
Suffice it to say: you and I have a different opinion as to how an organization should build a durable winner.
McPhail too had his flaws (he loved ex-Cubs like Pie and Patterson too much). All GMs do. I have to go—locking up again.
This is so frustrating, not that I expect to change your mind anyway. I do however hold your opinion in great regard, having seen it in other comments sections. I just disagree with you on this matter. Keep writing; I look forward to your remarks. Ciao!
http://www.masnsports.com/steve-melewski/2012/08/more-talk-about-the-pitch-the-orioles-dont-want-their-young-hurlers-to-throw.html
Some other organizations ban the cutter in the lower minors, so they’re not alone in that. It’s fair to point out that the Orioles have struggled mightily to turn pitching prospects into quality major league starters, but the majority of them didn’t even throw the cutter, so blaming that is an oversimplification.
Exactly the only guys this has been any issue with is Arrieta & now Bundy. To blame it all on one thing like this is pretty silly.
Also the whole “banning the cutter” isn’t that simple. The Orioles were willing to let him throw it again eventually. But they did want him to develop more pitches in the minors (which has let him develop a great change and solid curve.) Alot of teams do tell their top pitching prospects to use their top pitch less (mainly big fastballs because these guys could only throw fastballs and dominate low levels. They also don’t ban it completely so obviously a bit different.)
Buck did say they’re going to talk with Bundy about throwing his cutter and easing it in for next year. Bundy himself did say that in winter ball, it hurt his elbow to throw it, which is another reason why he isn’t throwing it this year. So we will see, but if there is any pain when he throws it, I’m all for getting rid of it. He has shown he can survive with 2 good pitches and a decent third in his curve.
Bundy isn’t throwing the cutter by his own choice. He said when he pitched in the Fall League the cutter was giving him trouble. Accordingly, he shelved it for this year.
Showalter said the following, ““If you go through the whole evolution, background, he went to Fall League and the slider/cutter seemed to be the reason we thought that his elbow was [sore],” Showalter said. “Remember we had to slow him down one time? We thought the cutter/slider was slowing him down a little bit.“So he’s pitching this year without that, and that’s a big pitch for him. And that’s something that he’ll probably have next year. And if we get to a point this year we think physically he’s in good shape, we might let him do it this year. So now it’s fastball-curveball-changeup.”
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/blog/bal-orioles-dylan-bundy-still-pitching-without-cutter-in-repertoire-as-he-develops-in-major-league-role-20160604-story.html
Not really fair to just blame the O’s… Bundy made the decision to scrap the cutter/slider for this season to keep healthy since it was tweaking his arm. Sounds like he might bring it back next year if he feels good throwing it.
http://www.masnsports.com/steve-melewski/2016/06/dylan-bundy-said-the-decision-to-stop-throwing-slidercutter-for-now-was-his.html
EDIT: Jinx to the guy above…
Not an O’s but I got Bundy in my dynasty league in 2012 so I’ve followed his career closely with all the ups and downs; almost all downs. I’m just happy for the guy, been through a lot of struggles and it seems like all the hard work is finally paying off.