The Economic Impact of Changing CBT Thresholds and Penalties

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This past Saturday, as part of the ongoing collective bargaining agreement negotiations, Major League Baseball sent its second proposal on core economic issues to the Major League Baseball Players Association. We’ve already covered how the two sides differ on pre-arbitration compensation, and examined how changing the arbitration eligibility rules would alter player salaries based on recent arbitration awards. MLB and the MLBPA have also laid out proposals regarding the competitive balance tax, proposals that would have strikingly different effects on team spending.

To compare the two approaches, I started with the actual tax regime from the previous CBA, which was in effect from 2017 through ’21. I made one modification: the abbreviated 2020 season led the league and the union to bilaterally amend the CBA to drop the competitive balance tax for that season. Payrolls also ended up being quite different than their original projections due to the 60-game slate. For the purposes of this analysis, I’ve turned each payroll into a full-season number and calculated the tax as if 2020 were a regular year (hopefully, how the new CBT handles a pandemic will not be relevant for future seasons).

As a reminder, the previous CBA had three thresholds (over the cap, but by less than $20 million; $20 million-$40 million over the cap; and more than $40 million over the cap) as well as escalating penalties for repeated overages. The tax rate started at 20% and climbed from there. It also carried draft pick penalties for teams that exceeded the cap by $40 million or more. I took each team’s yearly CBT salary from Cot’s Contracts to determine which teams were over the cap. I valued the draft picks using past research by Craig Edwards and looked at the total tax cost levied by the old agreement:

2017-21 CBT Payments (In Millions)
Year Team Payroll Tax Repeater Add-Ons Draft Pick Cost Total Tax*
2021 Dodgers $285.60 $32.65 $0.00 $5.00 $37.65
2021 Padres $216.47 $1.29 $0.00 $0.00 $1.29
2020 Yankees $239.82 $7.78 $3.18 $0.00 $10.97
2020 Astros $224.32 $3.26 $0.00 $0.00 $3.26
2020 Cubs $216.27 $1.65 $0.83 $0.00 $2.48
2019 Red Sox $243.65 $9.65 $3.77 $0.00 $13.41
2019 Cubs $237.20 $7.58 $0.00 $0.00 $7.58
2019 Yankees $234.57 $6.74 $0.00 $0.00 $6.74
2018 Red Sox $239.48 $11.95 $0.00 $5.00 $16.95
2018 Nationals $204.95 $1.59 $0.80 $0.00 $2.39
2017 Tigers $207.20 $2.44 $0.00 $0.00 $2.29
2017 Yankees $224.22 $6.95 $8.77 $0.00 $15.17
2017 Nationals $202.24 $1.45 $0.00 $0.00 $1.36
2017 Dodgers $253.63 $22.05 $18.06 $0.00 $34.71
2017 Giants $203.27 $1.65 $0.83 $0.00 $2.89
Notes: 2020 assumed to be a normal, full year of payrolls. *In 2017, the CBA specified a 50/50 blend of the new CBA’s penalties and the rate the old CBA would have charged, which decreased the tax bills of five teams.

Of note, the 2017 tax year used a hybrid approach that split the difference between the 2016 tax regime and the new one. Repeater penalties kicked in fully in 2018; no team has paid the tax three years in a row since then. That three-time offender tax rate is 50%, with surcharges kicking it up to 62% and 95% at the higher thresholds.

The league has proposed new tax rates, as Jay Jaffe detailed for us on Monday. There would no longer be repeat overage penalties. Instead, the new tax rate would be 50% for all teams exceeding the cap by any amount. At $20 million, the marginal rate would climb to 75%, then to 100% for teams over by $40 million or more. In addition, the draft pick penalties would change to a forfeited second round pick for being $20 million-$40 million over and a first round pick for being $40 million over.

The penalty would actually be two picks each – one in the current domestic amateur draft, and one in a heretofore-nonexistent (but reportedly forthcoming) international draft – but for the purposes of today’s article, I’ll ignore the international draft. I also assumed that the value of a first-round pick was the average of picks 6-30, rather than 1-30, because teams in the tax aren’t generally picking in the top five, though that assumption could certainly change. The old CBA included protections if a team’s forfeited pick would have been in the top six; I believe my estimation roughly replicates that effect, though the details of any protections in the league’s most recent proposal have not been announced.

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Using the old tax thresholds and the new penalty rates, here’s how the competitive balance tax would have been assessed from 2017-21:

2017-21 CBT Payments (In Millions): Old Thresholds/New Penalties
Year Team Payroll Tax Repeater Add-Ons Draft Pick Cost Total Tax Change in Tax
2021 Dodgers $285.60 $60.60 $0.00 $17.00 $77.60 $39.95
2021 Padres $216.47 $3.23 $0.00 $0.00 $3.23 $1.94
2020 Yankees $239.82 $18.87 $0.00 $5.60 $24.47 $13.50
2020 Astros $224.32 $8.16 $0.00 $0.00 $8.16 $4.90
2020 Cubs $216.27 $4.13 $0.00 $0.00 $4.13 $1.65
2019 Red Sox $243.65 $23.24 $0.00 $5.60 $28.84 $15.43
2019 Cubs $237.20 $18.40 $0.00 $5.60 $24.00 $16.42
2019 Yankees $234.57 $16.43 $0.00 $5.60 $22.03 $15.29
2018 Red Sox $239.48 $27.48 $0.00 $17.00 $44.48 $27.53
2018 Nationals $204.95 $3.98 $0.00 $0.00 $3.98 $1.59
2017 Tigers $207.20 $6.10 $0.00 $0.00 $6.10 $3.81
2017 Yankees $224.22 $16.92 $0.00 $5.60 $22.52 $7.35
2017 Nationals $202.24 $3.62 $0.00 $0.00 $3.62 $2.26
2017 Dodgers $253.63 $43.63 $0.00 $17.00 $60.63 $25.92
2017 Giants $203.27 $4.13 $0.00 $0.00 $4.13 $1.24
Notes: 2020 assumed to be a normal, full year of payrolls.

MLB’s proposal would see roughly $100 million more in assessed tax penalties, not including draft picks. The monetary value of drafts picks forfeited would skyrocket from roughly $10 million to roughly $80 million. Note: a previous version of this article under-stated the Padres’ potential luxury tax bill in this theoretical situation by roughly $2 million.

The effect of an increased CBT isn’t a one-for-one loss of player revenue. The assessed tax flows into two buckets: roughly half (slightly more, because the first $13 million of total taxes also count toward this bucket) goes to defraying player benefit costs, while the rest is remitted to teams that didn’t exceed the tax, though those teams aren’t required to reinvest that money into their roster. To approximate the effect on payrolls, I came up with a workaround. I worked out a new payroll level that would lead to the same amount of total league-wide tax dollars. In other words, teams would need to spend less in salary to end up with the same tax bills that they actually received from 2017-21. I calculated how much less to ballpark the economic impact of the tax. This doesn’t exactly handle team behavior, but I believe it’s a good first-order approximation.

More specifically, I reduced each team’s payroll by a consistent fraction while they were over the tax. When they reached a non-taxable level, I stopped reducing that team’s payroll, but continued to reduce the rest of them proportionally, until another team reached the lowest threshold, and so on. In the end, that would lower payrolls like so:

2017-21 CBT Payments (In Millions): League-Wide Tax Adjustment
Year Team Payroll Tax Repeater Add-Ons Draft Pick Cost Total Tax Change in Payrolls
2021 Dodgers $265.04 $40.04 $0.00 $17.00 $57.04 -$20.56
2021 Padres $210.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$6.47
2020 Yankees $222.56 $7.28 $0.00 $0.00 $7.28 -$17.27
2020 Astros $208.17 $0.08 $0.00 $0.00 $0.08 -$16.15
2020 Cubs $208.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$8.27
2019 Red Sox $226.11 $10.08 $0.00 $5.60 $15.68 -$17.54
2019 Cubs $220.12 $7.06 $0.00 $0.00 $7.06 -$17.08
2019 Yankees $217.68 $5.84 $0.00 $0.00 $5.84 -$16.89
2018 Red Sox $222.24 $13.93 $0.00 $5.60 $19.53 -$17.24
2018 Nationals $197.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$7.95
2017 Tigers $195.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$12.20
2017 Yankees $208.08 $6.54 $0.00 $0.00 $6.54 -$16.14
2017 Nationals $195.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$7.24
2017 Dodgers $235.37 $25.37 $0.00 $17.00 $42.37 -$18.26
2017 Giants $195.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$8.27
Notes: 2020 assumed to be a normal, full year of payrolls.

That comes out to an aggregate $207.5 million in reduced payrolls, or $41.5 million in salary per year. To reiterate, that reduction represents the payroll level that would result in constant total tax collected for the new tax rates proposed by the owners. The new tax rates proposed by the players are the same as the old tax rates, only minus the draft pick penalties, which means that team behavior would have been roughly unchanged under their proposal, albeit with higher initial thresholds to work with.

Next, let’s cover the thresholds that trigger the CBT. The league proposes increasing the first threshold for the CBT by 1.9%, 0%, 0.9%, 0.9%, and 1.8% in the five years of the new CBA. To calculate how those levels would impact total spending, I did the same thing: I started with the 2016 CBT level and increased it by those rates each year, then applied the proposed new penalties based on the same cap formula. That would make the 2017-2021 first thresholds lower: $192.6 million, $192.6 million, $194.3 million, $196.1 million, and $199.6 million respectively. This would bring more teams over the cap, which I’ve accounted for below:

2017-21 Hypothetical CBT Payments (In Millions)
Year Team Payroll Tax Draft Pick Cost Total Tax Change in Salary from Existing
2021 Dodgers $257.04 $42.44 $17.00 $59.44 -$28.56
2021 Padres $199.60 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$16.87
2020 Yankees $215.84 $9.88 $0.00 $9.88 -$23.98
2020 Astros $201.89 $2.91 $0.00 $2.91 -$22.43
2020 Cubs $196.07 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$20.20
2019 Red Sox $219.29 $13.72 $5.60 $19.32 -$24.37
2019 Cubs $213.48 $9.58 $0.00 $9.58 -$23.72
2019 Yankees $211.11 $8.39 $0.00 $8.39 -$23.46
2018 Red Sox $215.53 $12.21 $5.60 $17.81 -$23.95
2018 Nationals $192.59 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$12.36
2017 Tigers $192.59 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$14.61
2017 Yankees $201.80 $4.61 $0.00 $4.61 -$22.42
2017 Nationals $192.59 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$9.65
2017 Dodgers $228.27 $21.76 $5.60 $27.36 -$25.36
2017 Giants $192.59 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$10.68
2018 Yankees $192.59 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$0.39
2021 Yankees $199.60 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$8.82
2019 Astros $194.32 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$9.43
2021 Astros $199.60 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$7.04
2018 Cubs $192.59 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$0.73
2019 Cardinals $194.32 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$3.44
2021 Mets $199.60 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$8.13
2020 Phillies $196.07 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$11.26
2019 Nationals $194.32 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$6.83
2020 Dodgers $196.07 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$8.58
2019 Dodgers $194.32 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$10.59
2018 Dodgers $192.59 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$2.45
2018 Giants $192.59 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 -$3.13
Notes: 2020 assumed to be a normal, full year of payrolls.

If teams didn’t change their spending at all but were governed by both higher rates and lower CBT thresholds, they would have paid $383 million in tax and lost draft picks worth $136 million. To reach an amount of tax equivalent to what was actually paid (including the monetary value of draft picks), they would have needed to spend an aggregate $383 million less from 2017-21, or $76.6 million per year. That’s a hefty chunk of change relative to the status quo.

The MLBPA’s proposal would have the opposite effect. The tax rates are unchanged (except for the removal of draft pick compensation), but the tax levels would change significantly. I used the same methodology, starting with the 2016 tax level and adding the percentage increases the players are calling for:

2017-21 Hypothetical CBT Payments (In Millions): MLBPA Proposed Thresholds
Year Team Payroll Tax Repeater Add-Ons Draft Pick Cost Total Tax Change in Payrolls
2021 Dodgers $325.01 $34.88 $0.00 $0.00 $34.88 $39.41
2021 Padres $246.34 $0.10 $0.00 $0.00 $0.10 $29.87
2020 Yankees $272.92 $8.26 $3.33 $0.00 $11.59 $33.10
2020 Astros $255.28 $3.13 $0.00 $0.00 $3.13 $30.96
2020 Cubs $246.11 $1.30 $0.65 $0.00 $1.95 $29.85
2019 Red Sox $277.28 $12.88 $4.50 $0.00 $17.37 $33.62
2019 Cubs $269.93 $9.32 $0.00 $0.00 $9.32 $32.73
2019 Yankees $266.94 $8.36 $0.00 $0.00 $8.36 $32.37
2018 Red Sox $272.53 $13.88 $0.00 $0.00 $13.88 $33.05
2018 Nationals $233.24 $1.26 $0.63 $0.00 $1.88 $28.28
2017 Tigers $235.80 $3.05 $0.00 $0.00 $3.05 $28.59
2017 Yankees $255.17 $8.67 $3.46 $0.00 $12.13 $30.94
2017 Nationals $230.15 $1.92 $0.00 $0.00 $1.92 $27.91
2017 Dodgers $288.64 $27.95 $7.51 $0.00 $35.45 $35.00
2017 Giants $231.32 $2.15 $1.08 $0.00 $3.23 $28.05
Notes: 2020 assumed to be a normal, full year of payrolls.

To reach the same amount of tax paid, teams could have spent an additional $474 million, or $94.8 million per year. This is the estimate I’m least sure about; given that several teams spent up to just below the first threshold in past years, there would likely be some knock-on behavior from teams spending up to the cap. But it’s also unlikely that keeping the tax bill constant is a binding constraint in this direction to the same extent that it is to the downside; every team has behaved to minimize its tax bill, but a team that went $5 million over the cap under the existing regime (like the 2021 Padres) wouldn’t necessarily increase spending by $30 million dollars (as they did in this example) to get near the luxury tax again. I’d argue that both proposals I ran with changed thresholds don’t reflect actual team behavior; modeling how teams would approach different CBT thresholds is trickier than modeling how they would approach different penalties.

The most likely place for the players’ proposal to change is in the first CBT increase, and that’s also the part of the model most sensitive to change. The 16.7% increase they propose is essentially a catch-up that accounts for the fact that the CBT threshold increased by an average of 2.1% over the course of the last CBA while revenues increased at a faster rate. Lower that first increase to 5% and the extra spending number drops from $474 million to $137 million.

Where you think the CBT threshold should land is trickier than taking the midpoint of these numbers. Neither reflects how teams will actually behave; it’s likely that a more restrictive tax would lead to some high-spending teams accepting slightly higher tax bills, while a less restrictive tax would only raise some salaries, not all.

The tax regime that began in 2017 had a huge impact on salaries. Harsh repeater penalties and a 2% threshold growth rate meant that almost no one exceeded the tax rate for two years in a row, and that top-end team payrolls stayed roughly constant. It’s no accident that total MLB payrolls peaked in 2017 and have been declining ever since.

My main takeaway from this analysis: changing the competitive balance tax thresholds and rates will likely be one of the two biggest levers in the CBA negotiations, along with pre-free-agency compensation. Changing the structure of the tax has huge and hard-to-model changes for total league payrolls.

If the players’ proposal for CBT thresholds had been in effect in the last CBA, with no other changes to the CBA at all, and my modeling holds true, aggregate payrolls would have increased by just under 1% per year over the past five years (instead of declining by roughly 1% per year). If the owners’ proposal for CBT thresholds and rates had been in effect and my modeling holds true, aggregate payrolls would have decreased by nearly 2.5% per year. Want an example of this? This estimation of the owners’ proposed CBT regime has the Dodgers’ prospective payroll in 2021 dropping from $286 million to $257 million, a $29 million decrease. Despite that, they’d actually pay more in tax, $59 million counting draft penalties rather than $37.7 million in the current regime. Might they cut payroll even further?

What’s the right number to arrive at? That’s not for me to decide. The players’ proposal comes close to matching revenue gains, but you could perhaps argue that revenue gains have outstripped the long-term rate of league growth. One thing I feel comfortable saying: the league’s proposal isn’t one with a serious chance of being accepted. It’s a drastic escalation of the restrictive cap from the last bargaining agreement, one that has already eroded the players’ piece of the pie.

Could this merely be a bargaining position from the league’s negotiators? Certainly. But it’s absolutely not an extension of the status quo. It’s significantly harsher than that, in terms of both the rate at which the cap grows and the penalties for going over. Both sides have other levers to pull, but on this issue, the league’s suggestion looks to me like a massive overreach.





Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.

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Carson Kahla
4 years ago

Thank you for continuing to try and help the common man understand these different proposals. One note tho – the 2019 portions of the old threshold/new penalties graph isn’t calculated correctly. The total tax looks about 10 M short.

Broken BatMember since 2020
4 years ago

Thanks so much for taking the time to provide a view of just how numbers work. You are correct in stating it’s not for you decide, or any of us baseball fans. However, this analysis has now swayed me even more toward the side of the players in taking sides on this conflict. Rhetoric aside, follow the $$ dollars. The owners locked out the players, the players didn’t strike. It’s because of a real fear by owners that if they didn’t lock out and begin play with good faith by each side, the players would of course walked out late summer and jeopardized playoffs. Losing 10-20 games early season vs. Playoff revenues. Well as the old commercial said “Priceless”. Hold your ground players and get something short of what your asking but more than what the owners are just tossing at you.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago

I’m pretty confident that every team will treat $20 million over tax line as a cap if draft pick compensation is on the table at that threshold. And absolutely everyone involved in these negotiations knows it.

Related to that, I find it hard to believe that there will be games before May. I’d probably put the over/under (before/after?) somewhere in June. June 5th, maybe?

MikeSMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The first table shows that most teams already treat the CBT as a cap. 21/30 teams have never paid the tax, 25/30 have never paid a repeater penalty, and only three teams have ever paid more than $10M in penalties or lost draft picks.

It is also interesting that the list of teams who paid the tax correlates very well with the list of teams who won Pennants and World Championships during that time. Only the Braves and Rays have been in the WS since 2017 and did not pay tax during that time.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

I don’t quite agree on the denominator here. About half of teams, maybe more have not only never paid the tax, they’ve never even gotten close. I don’t think the cap has any impact on their behavior because their own payrolls have never gotten close.

Here are the number of teams that have been within $30M of the luxury tax line since 2014, but not over, contrasted with the number of teams over the line (excluding 2020, which is hard to figure out because the payrolls were so much lower):
2014: 3 vs 2
2015: 4 vs 2
2016: 4 vs 2
2017: 5 vs 4
2018: 4 vs 2
2019: 1 vs 4
2021: 6 vs 2

So when teams get close to the luxury tax, it generally does inhibit them from going over. It’s worth noting that the list of teams that got within $30M at some point is only 14 teams (Dodgers, Yankees, Mets, Astros, Red Sox, Nationals, Cubs, Giants, Padres, Tigers, Rangers, Blue Jays, Phillies, and Angels). Also, it’s clearly not a hard cap since teams regularly go over, and it’s not just the Yankees and Dodgers…10 of the 14 teams on this list have gone over from 2014 forward, and that doesn’t include the Mets who are very likely to go over this year unless the MLBPA gets its way (it still might, though).

In any case, a few extra million dollars here or there is probably not what motivates teams to stay under the tax. Repeater penalties do, which is why teams like the Yankees and Dodgers like ducking back under from time to time. But it also does affect your bonus pools and free agents compensation for signing QO players. If we’re talking about taking away draft picks near the top of the draft entirely, teams are going to treat that as a hard cap. They might go over and duck back under like they do now to avoid repeater penalties, but that $20M over is going to dramatically change the behavior of everyone in the organization.

NYYfaninLAAlandMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

Not sure the alignment of tax to WS is quite as meaningful as you may suggest though.

Only 2 times did teams pay tax in the year they appeared in the Series. The appearances are really skewed by the dominance of Houston and the Dodgers in this timeframe (6 of 10 WS appearances) but they only represent 3 of the 15 tax pay events. More teams paid tax and failed to appear – 5 – than appeared – 4. 8 of the 15 tax payor events are from teams that never appeared, while 2 teams that only appeared 1 time paid tax twice. Tax payment is much more a product of a team’s roster seniority. and perhaps a “get over the hump” attempt.

tmthjdbMember since 2016
4 years ago

But sometimes going over the cap might happen after a breakout year in which you make the playoffs, due to Arb, higher annual salaries under existing FA contracts, and “taking another swing.” Red Sox 2019 has that look, for example. YOY payrolls are pretty sticky.

tomerafan
4 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

That’s a pretty unfair statistical inference. The only way the CBT is a “cap” is if teams who used to spend above a certain level have decreased their spending as a result of the tax. Not whether or not teams have ever paid it.

Said differently, the fact that teams who never spent before the CBT are continuing not to spend is not evidence that the CBT is a cap.

On the other hand, the repeater penalty absolutely creates a cap. Absolutely. Front offices have admitted that they really can’t go over the CBT limit in consecutive years.

tomerafan
4 years ago
Reply to  Ben Clemens

That’s indicia that the CBT might become an effective cap. It doesn’t prove, in any way, that it was beforehand. And you know this.

Similar to Jay Jaffe claiming yesterday that a federal mediator was both called too early, and wouldn’t have had enough time to make an impact in the process…

markakis21
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

What’s the over/under for what date you will stop caring about the season?

For me personally if we miss a game in May, I am done with MLB for this year. I can live with April games being cancelled, but I have no interest in watching a drastically shortened season.

I also won’t watch if we get NHL-style 16 team playoffs but fortunately it seems the players will not allow that. Hopefully they stick to their guns on that.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  markakis21

I don’t know. I like baseball enough that I’ll probably pay some attention to it. I don’t know how much. I’m probably not the type of person they need to worry about.

But I do think that the owners might be taking the wrong lessons from the 1994 strike. They are working to protect the playoffs because that’s where they make the most profit, and the 1994 strike wiped that out. But the 1994 strike lost a generation’s worth of fans. People are going to be pissed, and it’s going to hurt revenues for years to come.

Just to imagine what this looks like–college baseball starts soon, and will peak with the CWS in June. Pro basketball will still be on, and their playoffs start in April. with the finals in early June as well. If there’s no major league baseball in April, people are going to tune out, and that lack of interest will continue to compound through the end of the basketball and college baseball playoffs. Meanwhile, there’s a whole media industry around baseball that will have nothing to report on except labor problems, so when they actually come back it’s going to be hard to get fans excited again. A shortened season will also make it harder to build up interest for the playoffs, and so they’ll lose out to football when it starts up in the fall.

I don’t think the owners are thinking about it in this way, because if they did they wouldn’t still be making these non-starter proposals in mid-February. I think they are so focused on their goals, which include beating the union and maximizing the playoffs, that they’re taking the regular season for granted. Either because they think the union is going to fold or because they just don’t think it’s that important. I think they’re probably wrong either way.

soddingjunkmailMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

More generally, there’s such a competition for eyeballs in this day and age that a significant portion of lost fans will never be recovered. And they don’t just have to worry about losing them to other major league sports – the mobile gaming industry is huge, and they’re very practiced in developing daily consumers. If people fill their leisure screen time with things like this during the baseball hiatus, I suspect baseball will be disappointed with how quickly people come back.

steveo
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Basically all of this. And if the owners truly cared, they’d end the lockout and the players would likely play under the current rules. But doing that would give the players too much leverage as they could play the full season, then sit out the post season where the owners make a killing and players make relatively little but have earned their full salary by then.

Owners don’t care about what’s good for the sport, they just care about how they can nickel and dime their product while spending as little as possible.

fleurMember since 2025
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Until the expos are back, I am still pissed

Youppi!
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I think you’re right. The 2020 season demonstrated that lack of baseball for 102 games meant nothing to most people. Other things were happening (besides covid) to keep people casually entertained. Heck, people went outside and did things!

Hardcore fans will stay. But casual fans will just find something else. Who knows what the economics are of losing a group of friends who meet up and see two games a year on a bigger scale; people who didn’t mind paying for $120 or whatever for mlb.tv (with a vpn to get around so many asinine blackouts) for a few background summer games, etc.

As trite as this sounds, I’m part of two fantasy leagues that have decided to fold up shop. That’s 22-24 people who played 10 straight years, who would meet up for games when locales crossed, who just don’t care that much anymore on a day to day basis.

Why? The product increasingly sucks. And they’re only talking about money…

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

With the 50% tax at the first threshold, it might as well be a hard cap. No team has been willing to pay at that level yet. The penalties after that are basically pointless, since no one will ever incur them.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

Is that because they don’t want to pay the 50% tax? Or because 50% while also being that much over the prior threshold is what they’re not willing to pay? Or because it will impede their ability to duck back down under the tax in a couple of years and avoid repeater penalties? Or because once you go over by $40M your top draft pick gets moved back 10 places? I think there are a few explanations here.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

There are, but so far the Dodgers have been the only team willing to pay a substantial amount of tax at the current thresholds.

steveo
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

They’re basically treating 210M as the cap and that’s with relatively non punitive CBT penalties. Throw in draft pick loss and stiffer penalties and every team would get below that line, full stop.

MTFMember since 2020
4 years ago

>>>My main takeaway from this analysis: changing the competitive balance tax thresholds and rates will likely be one of the two biggest levers in the CBA negotiations, along with pre-free-agency compensation. Changing the structure of the tax has huge and hard-to-model changes for total league payrolls.
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This analysis is couched in league-wide terms, when it appears the most pronounced impact is on about a third of the league. Apples and oranges.

Without a way to distribute revenues more widely, the higher payroll teams would become ever-larger proportions of the whole, if the players approach of simply raising thresholds is the winner in negotiations. Raising the tax threshold is only one thing, and something more fundamental helping spread revenues more widely must also happen, or small revenue teams are going to be swamped. That eventually means more relocation, and more frequently, in search of more local revenue.

yaro
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

This is propaganda pushed by the owners and people who dont understand the economics of team ownership. From Baseball Reference In Major League Baseball, “48% of local revenues are subject to revenue sharing and are distributed equally among all 30 teams, with each team receiving 3.3% of the total sum generated. As a result, in 2018, each team received $118 million from this pot. Teams also receive a share of national revenues, which were estimated to be $91 million per team, also in 2018.”

Thats 209 Million from revenue sharing. And dont hit me with the counter argument that some teams pocket that money because they operate at a loss without that revenue sharing. The profit generated by team operations is not what makes the majority of the money for the owners. Team valuations are increasing at rates far faster than any team can lose money, on top of that the owners own and have access to real estate developments directly dependent on the team, which isnt included as MLB revenue.

tomerafan
4 years ago
Reply to  yaro

How does an increased franchise valuation – which is only a number that matters when someone is looking to sell an asset – pay the bills? Both sides in this argument are casually discarding the facts that don’t suit their own position. Cash flow matters. Franchise value can only be monetized when the franchise is sold (which is taxable) or when debt is taken.

And when you talk about propaganda being pushed…
and have access to real estate developments directly dependent on the team, which isn’t included as MLB revenue.

This is a small number of franchises. And if you want to be intellectually honest, you have to acknowledge that while residential ballpark-district projects have down well, downtown office space owners have taken a huge hit during COVID.

Attempts to talk about “the owners” and their finances is about the same as taking about both Luis Guillorme and Max Scherzer when talking about player salaries. And I think too many folks are looking at this issue through the lens of big market teams rather than the entirety of the league. Wasn’t there a study done showing that the two Central Divisions spent less in 2020 and 2021 than the coastal teams? Doesn’t this map to the general economic malaise in the center of the country? Isn’t it possible that 10-15 teams are hurting on a cash flow basis while the average reader focuses on Wrigleyville?

rturpynMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

>How does an increased franchise valuation – which is only a number that matters when someone is looking to sell an asset – pay the bills? <

Leverage.

By using the asset value to secure debt. Gains on the sale of an asset are subject to capital gains taxes. Financing using the assets (and its increased value) to secure more debt does not incur capital gains taxes.

NYYfaninLAAlandMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

Cash flow does matter. But it too, if it translates to net income, is taxed. Valuation doesn’t pay the bills, but it does support borrowing (even if taken for purposes other than baseball ops). And to be “intellectually honest”, ballpark district development as part of the ownership portfolio is at least directly related to baseball even if it is a less consistent occurrence – the downtown office space market has absolutely no connection to baseball.

I’m sure many teams have seen a negative cash flow impact in the last 2 seasons. I might very speculatively argue that perhaps certain coastal markets have been even more impacted at least from a ballpark revenue standpoint due to Covid attendance restrictions. And the central division teams (excluding the Cubs at least) have always “spent less” because they are smaller markets.

Looking at spending deltas from ’19 to ’21 may not be all that illustrative . How teams spend is very much impacted by where they were and where they are going from a competitive standpoint and roster turnover. Of the 8 teams that significantly increased payroll from ’19 to ’21 (+$20 mil +) , only the White Sox were in the Central. The others could also be viewed as clubs looking to improve their competitive odds – Jays, Hou, Halos (oops), Mets, Phils, Dodgers, and Pads. Most of the significant payroll cutters (- 20 +) could mostly be better seen as in the process of “resetting their competitive approach” – Baltimore, Bos, Cleve, Det, Sea, Texas, Cubs, Milw, Pitt, Ariz, Col, San Fran. But not an especially notable skew towards Central clubs.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
4 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

Beyond the bonkers comparison of investing in real estate rather than your payroll (a choice!) to cities and business facing covid-related issues (not a choice!), if your argument is that there are ownership groups that can’t afford to field competitive teams because they’re leveraged elsewhere…why is that the PA’s problem, and what does that have to do with America, coastal/middle priorities, etc. What a ridiculous overgeneralization.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
4 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

>Isn’t it possible that 10-15 teams are hurting on a cash flow basis while the average reader focuses on Wrigleyville?<

Sure, but owners everywhere obfuscate their holdings through legal tax evasion (just one of the many ways this happens), so there's no reason to trust any owner when they cry poor.

Dan B
4 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

These hurting Central teams would be the teams that I would most like to see the books of, if I were the MLBPA. Even with a high payroll, my back of the envelope calcs suggest that the Yankees are easily the most profitable team in the league, but I would guess that Pittsburgh has to be top 5.

MTFMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  yaro

In your haste to respond, putting it charitably, you misunderstood. I’m not saying players should not get a bigger part of revenues. They should. Nor am I in favor of preventing highest revenue teams from spending crazy amounts on five year deals for 32 year old catchers, if they wish. Go ahead! All I am saying is the lower band of the league, the ten or so teams with limited local revenue, will either need to relocate for financial reasons, or the teams need more revenue from league sources.

soddingjunkmailMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

>All I am saying is the lower band of the league, the ten or so teams with limited local revenue, will either need to relocate for financial reasons, or the teams need more revenue from league sources.

Assuming the quoted $209M in revenue sharing is correct, how much more would you suggest these teams need?

MTFMember since 2020
4 years ago

no clue

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Well there probably won’t be a ton of relocation because there won’t be larger markets to relocate to in many cases. At least, not any more than there would be otherwise.

I also am skeptical that this is quite so much money. The luxury tax functions to keep spending below that line, so there’s not a big pool to start with. The first $13M goes to fund MLB benefits, as outlined in the CBA. Then only half of the remainder goes to clubs that didn’t exceed the luxury tax, so it’s getting split something like 25-28 different ways, depending on the year.

So in 2021, the total amount distributed per team would be (81-13)*0.5*0.036=$1.23M. That’s not nothing but for most teams it is a pretty trivial amount of payroll.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

This is where the players’ position doesn’t make any sense. They should be pro revenue sharing, not anti. And they should be looking for a cheapskate tax that mirrors the luxury tax.

hughduffy
4 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

It completely makes sense. The percentage of MLB revenues going to players has steadily dropped since revenue sharing was adopted in the 2003 CBA.

Revenue sharing has made it so that if a team spends money to win, it doesn’t realize all of the revenue from those additional wins. Additionally, smaller teams are able to get additional revenue without spending more money on payroll to make themselves more competitive.

The owners will not accept any CBA term that requires a team to spend a particular amount on payroll. The most the players can do is have increased major league minimums.

MTFMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  hughduffy

I worry its even worse than that, and the owners intend to prevent players from recovering the percentage of revenues paid in the past.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  hughduffy

The owners already made a proposal that included a minimum salary threshold. It was a bad proposal for a lot of reasons, but it’s clearly something they’re willing to discuss if they get enough concessions in other areas.

Dan B
4 years ago
Reply to  yaro

Also never discussed – when was the team bought, and for how much? A lot of the costs that make franchise ownership so burdensome, are tied to the cost of buying the asset in the first place. A lot of these franchises were bought so long ago, (e.g. Pirates in 1996 for $90m!) that the finance cost/opportunity costs of these investments have long since left the balance sheet.

Dan B
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

It’s one thing to be the Royals ownership, having paid market value in 2020 ($1 billion), who could justifiably cry poor for a few years and run low payrolls while they deal with the capital cost of that investment. Even the large market Mets sold for 2.5 billion just over a year ago, they would have an excuse to be frugal.
It’s another to be the Pirates, who were last transacted in 1996 for $90m! The Pirates could and should be running a decent payroll at this point, but as always this small/big market issue occludes actual analysis.

cnewty
4 years ago

The league originally proposed a spending “floor” (saw $80M as one number) that was rejected by the players because it came with lowering the ceiling. But I do wonder how a floor might operate in this model. If it mirrored the ceiling, such that 50% of dollars up to $20M below taxed, 75% of dollars between $20M-40M below, etc., wouldn’t that be a significant get for the players? Why didn’t this idea gain steam from their end?

markakis21
4 years ago
Reply to  cnewty

The players ultimately believe that the way that they will make the most money is to make MLB as unbalanced as possible, similar to european soccer. They believe that narrowing it down into massive bidding wars between a few rich teams is best for their profits overall, since the Union mostly cares about the players making the most money. This is why they refuse a cap, and why they want to kill revenue sharing.

I am not sure they are correct in this point. I feel like if you kill revenue sharing and refuse the floor/cap model, the small market teams will spend much less because they no longer have the means to compete, and the big market teams will just pocket the savings. Teams historically have been unwilling to spend aggressively, even when they have sky-high profits. I’m not sure killing the CBT and revenue sharing will change that.

As to the floor, they see a floor as something that would lead to a cap. And a cap suppresses the ability of teams to just spend their way to victory, which they don’t want.

yaro
4 years ago
Reply to  markakis21

You just kept stringing more and more wrong opinions and blatantly false shit together into this abortion of a comment. Describing the MLBPA’s strategy as “Whats best for profits overall”? The union only cares about the highest end players? The vast majority of the players in the union make nowhere close to the top end and their asks have revolved around increasing the wages of young players and players making the league minimum.

Billsaints
4 years ago
Reply to  yaro

Dude, disagree by all means, but with a little less ‘abortion’ and a little more respect.

Jason BMember since 2017
4 years ago
Reply to  Billsaints

Hmmm…abortions for some, miniature American flags for others!

NYYfaninLAAlandMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  markakis21

I just think you’re completely whiffing here but maybe that’s the goal.

MLB has what is acting as a soft cap in the CBT right now. The other major sports have spending caps that are routinely violated using the various out features in them. MLB has better adherence to its CBT based ceilings in that sense than any of them. The goal of upping the CBT thresholds is to help maintain their share of the growing revenue pie (excepting the last 2 pandemic impacted years) which the CBT thresholds have not remotely kept pace with.

Their goals are not to kill revenue sharing either. They just want to ensure that the negotiated purpose of it – to improve the on field product – is adhered to since MLB has taken no enforcement actions on that without grievances filed by the union. I’d agree their proposal here was a bit ham handed but that seems a negotiating approach more than a desired result. And frankly some of the most profitable teams we have the limited available information on are the revenue sharing recipient teams. Revenue sharing is an overdone issue anyway – it represents a relatively small % of the total revenue pie now though admittedly more important to small market clubs. Central fund revenues that are shared equally continue to grow and dominate the revenue stream. Taking teams out of the market won’t help the union.

Their key proposals are focused on the league minimum and arbitration changes – those don’t benefit the top dollar guys. They are trying to shift the dynamic a bit to ensure that the median salary level doesn’t continue to erode and low and mid level FAs aren’t just tossed off to be replaced by minimum salaried guys – these represent the bulk of union membership.

fleurMember since 2025
4 years ago
Reply to  markakis21

You are right
.. we shouldn’t be pro player or owners but for the good of baseball, which is greater competition ….

MTFMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  Ben Clemens

so far, the owners proposals seem to be mostly ploys.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
4 years ago
Reply to  Ben Clemens

What’s the functional difference between a min player salary and a min floor, though? I don’t see how a floor practically changes anything that already happens now

hughduffy
4 years ago

The functional difference between a minimum player salary and a salary floor for teams would be that teams that failed to make the salary floor would be required to spend more. An $80 million payroll floor for the 26-man roster, for example, would require an average salary of just over $3 million per player, and would affect 7 teams for 2022 at the moment, requiring an additional $139.4 million in payroll. A $100 million salary floor would require an additional $333 million in payroll from 11 teams. A salary floor would likely benefit veterans, unless teams decided to pay 1-3 year players more than the major league minimum.

sadhulkMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  cnewty

Because teams like the Pirates or Orioles will trade for Robinson Cano or Aaron Hicks and prospects to make the floor instead of signing good players. The owner’s floor also came with a harder cap which will limit what big market teams spend. It’s unlikely to increase payrolls or add competition for good free agents.

Billsaints
4 years ago

If a draft pick is ‘lost’, does that mean one less player is drafted?

steveo
4 years ago
Reply to  Billsaints

Yep. It’s really dumb. But it looks like a 20 round draft is the norm and with minor league contraction it really isn’t that big of an issue, I don’t think.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
4 years ago

Tremendous work. I sincerely hope that the owners’ CBT position isn’t a take-it-or-leave-it.

It makes sense for it to be an initial bargaining position. Otherwise, it’s the owners once again forgetting that the players are the product.

Mike NMN
4 years ago

Impressive piece of work, Ben, regardless of who’s “side” you are on. Thanks for doing it. The relatively extreme aspects of the Owner’s demands are interesting—are they locking out the players with an expectation of being in this range? I’m also fascinated by the implications for teams currently way above the proposed new caps. Having negotiated multi-year contracts under the old system, several teams will likely be in an automatic penalty position regardless of how frugal they are going forward. That would create incentives for crazy deals….basically paying in prospects so they can give away good players for nothing but salary relief, because the cost of keeping the player is so punitive they’d be giving away the money anyway. If you are a smaller market team, you might like the chance of getting free goodies from the big market teams, but their revenues are not infinite either, and it hurts baseball’s balance sheet when a big market team’s revenues decline because they can’t field a competitive product after paying the piper. It may also create a massive number of productive veteran free agents who move year after year on deeply discounted-near MLB minimum contracts as teams nearing the thresholds, but with holes in their rosters, have very limited dollars to spend.

As a fan, I worry this is going to really run down competitiveness–weakening the strong teams doesn’t necessarily improve the rest.

tomerafan
4 years ago

Why are all of the analytics-based sites that I love completely ignoring their own agency in this discussion? Breeding a generation of front-office execs out of analytically-minded individuals is why mid-tier free agency has cratered, and that is the issue at the core of the negotiations. To have a secure job in MLB now requires being arb-eligible or a superstar. The superstars sign early extensions to guarantee their pay. Those who don’t are fungible and replaceable. I’m not saying that I like what this means in terms of the game on the field. I’m saying that it is the reality.

Simply put – on paper, using numbers, most mid-tier vets simply aren’t worth the salaries they desire when there is an inexpensive supply of available young talent. I don’t believe what a “theoretical” win is worth in this comparison because the economic calculus is the probability that the less expensive talent can approximate the value of th/e veteran at a fraction of the cost. Low probability vets are squeezed. Low value vets are squeezed. Analytics created this understanding and now disavows its very existence, Just ask Jeff Sullivan how real it is. Or Carson Cistulli. Or any one of the many brilliant analytical minds who have gone on to work in baseball and see how their work has impacted the allocation of dollars in the front office.

NYYfaninLAAlandMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

But isn’t this exactly what’s behind the union’s push for significantly higher minimum salaries, bonus pools for them, and earlier access to arbitration? That will get the bulk of their membership paid better but also provide a higher replacement cost floor for the lower tier FAs.

tomerafan
4 years ago

Yes, and I think both of those are necessary for better competition.

I’m saying that a short term decline in payrolls is at least due in part to this recognition by front offices. It’s not that owners won’t pay for talent. It’s that they’ve realized they don’t need to pay a premium for talent that might be only a marginal difference from a min-salary player.

Fan graphs and other sites bemoan owners cutting payroll without acknowledging their own agency in that process.

A fair system would reward tenure and performance in the pre-arb system, e.g. 2nd and 3rd year raises between 10% and 20% or something like that based on performance. I hope this happens.

jasonl
4 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

I mean sure but the owners are fighting tooth and nail to keep those min salary guys cheap, hence the insulting bonus pool number and less than cost of living min sal increase

Jim ParksMember since 2019
4 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

Agree completely. It seems to me that the MLBPA focus on the competitive balance tax is the issue. They seem to want to return to the era of players getting big FA $ just for putting in the time. That is not going to happen. If they focus on the minimum salary and paying for performance pre arb that will give the most benefit to the union as a whole.

NMR724Member since 2024
4 years ago
Reply to  Jim Parks

The MLBPA’s current proposals to increase min salaries to highest of all major sports, add a pre-arb bonus pool, and expand arbitration would direct something in the range of *$300m* annually to pre-free agents.

You don’t understand what you’re reading if your takeaway is that MLBPA is too focused on CBT.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
4 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

“Analytics created this understanding and now disavows its very existence”

I think you’ll struggle to find even one shred of direct evidence of this. *Every* analyst knows their work has contributed to the change in understanding in MLB front offices. Your assertion is frankly unfathomable. And the insinuation that analysts are somehow blameworthy for the current MLB financial climate is credulous in the extreme. It fails basic economics.

tomerafan
4 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

Uhhh… the direct evidence of it is analytical baseball websites decrying declines in team payrolls without discussing the fact that the payroll that is getting cut is the types of talents at certain levels that the analytics work has proven is not actually worth their salary.

“Blameworthy for the financial climate” is a huge stretch of the English language from my stated belief that the analytics community has some agency in the fact that a certain subset of the player universe no longer gets paid.

hughduffy
4 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

The analytics community has no agency here. They aren’t taking actions, a general requirement for saying that someone has agency.
The actions were taken by ownership and management. They’re the ones with agency in this situation.

BlueJaysBlackboard
4 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

Pointing out how teams CAN operate more efficiently within baseball’s economic system isn’t the same as condoning that economic system.

It’s possible to believe both of these things at once:
1) Teams can operate more efficiently by leaning more on a pool of players whose salaries are grossly and artificially depressed compared to the value they provide.
2) Maybe their salaries shouldn’t be so grossly and artificially depressed compared to the value they provide.

martyvan90Member since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

Tomerafan, you point out inconvenient truths, and are met with downvotes…. Such is life.
– Steroids (which saved baseball after the strike), outlawing steroids, analytics and the new aging value curve have turned compensation on its head.
– Baseball owners have tremendously different revenue streams.
– Baseball is the only sport that doesn’t in a meaningful way share revenues and include a revenue split in their CBA.
– Both owners and players have tremendously varied interests which don’t include the “greater good”
– Baseball owners have broader labor costs and (very importantly in running a business) labor cost predictably. More players, more development costs, more coaches, equipment and employees.
In my opinion, revenue sharing and a negotiated revenue split are the way out of the reoccurring mess that is baseball labor relations. Owners and players need to be partners to solve real problems and grow their sport.

NathanielMember since 2016
4 years ago

This is awesome. thank you!

FRLMember since 2016
4 years ago

For context on the proposed luxury tax line (MLB proposal = $214mm), the NFL’s hard salary cap is $208.2mm per team this year. The NFL also has a minimum team salary ($180mm in 2021).

Of course mlb revenues are much more localized, but I’m surprised there isn’t more focus on setting a higher minimum team salary from the union side.

MikeSMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  FRL

So in the NFL, the difference between the highest and lowest payrolls is about 15%.

In MLB, the Mets 26 man roster is projected to cost about seven times what the Pirates are paying.

chewbaccaMember since 2025
4 years ago

Great idea for an article!!! But like in life, it’ll probably be Republicans for Management and Democrats for the Players.

docgooden85Member since 2018
4 years ago
Reply to  chewbacca

Both parties are for Management. One of them is off the rails, but if you want to find a party that’s genuinely interested in Labor, you’ll have to find another locale.

steveo
4 years ago

The CBT is awful for MLB’s economics and growth of the game. In 2017, the Yankees won 90+ games a year ahead of schedule and made it to the ALCS on the backs of young kids Aaron Judge, Luis Severino, etc. In the offseason, what did the Yankees do? Well, they saw this as an opportunity to duck under the luxury tax threshold in 2018. They were a game away from the world series, and decided to cut payroll lol. In 2019, they went over the threshold but lost to the Astros in the ALCS. In 2020, they went over the threshold but no one paid tax this year. In 2021, they stayed below the luxury tax AGAIN.

In a championship window, they cut payroll two times in the span of four seasons. It’s incomprehensible. How do you justify that? They avoided meaningful upgrades to stay under. They also traded additional prospects to get teams to eat salary in trades. The irony is that the Yankees say they need to spend less on payroll to keep IFA money and draft selections, yet they trade away prospects so teams can take on salary?

I’m rambling at this point, but it’s not good for the game in general. All these big market teams are the life blood of the MLB. Don’t believe me? Simply look at TV schedules. When’s the last time the Rays were on ESPN? It was probably sooner than we think, but my point stands. MLB is way behind the NBA and NFL in terms of marketing and creating buzz and fun around the sport. Did anyone see Lebron and KD pick their all star teams? That was more fun than any off the field event MLB has probably ever done. Anyways, I’m not optimistic, but getting rid of the CBT is good for baseball and will raise salaries across the board.

Max Power
4 years ago
Reply to  steveo

Following NBA superstars like reality TV stars is lowest-common denominator fanship

steveo
4 years ago
Reply to  Max Power

Lol so we should only enjoy players while they’re playing? We can’t enjoy them in any other medium? And it was a show where they picked players and cracked jokes. We also got to see inside the mind of two great players. When does MLB ever do that? Spoiler: never.

dodgerbleu
4 years ago
Reply to  Max Power

Using a name from a hair dryer is a Homer.

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
4 years ago
Reply to  steveo

I agree with your Yankees example, but let’s not act like they did nothing in 2018, they did acquire Giancarlo’s massive contract afterall.

fleurMember since 2025
4 years ago

Preparing to get downvoted … But isn’t the point of greater penalties to create the “CB” of the CBT?…. i.e. if it is painful for the Dodgers maybe it makes it more competitive for lower revenue teams to spend more… While not spending to taxed levels but could field a worthy roster and avoiding the ranking phenomenon?…

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  fleur

For me, personally, I’m all in favor of the CBT. I’d prefer to see the minimum salary double, arbitration moved earlier, and the CBT indexed to inflation. And more revenue sharing. But it’s also true that this is a priority for the union and if the owners don’t give somewhere we are not gonna get any baseball at all.

steveo
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yeah, the CBT itself isn’t the problem. It’s the fact that it’s moved up like 12M during the previous CBA, when it’d be closer to 300M with inflation alone. If they actually got the CBT up to around 280M-290M during this previous season, the players would be fine with it. Even like 250-260M. It’s enough to curb insane spending, but it’s not high enough that a team like the Yankees/Red Sox/etc will fight tooth and nail to stay under.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  steveo

Wait, what inflation multiplier are you using? By CPI it should be $223M for 2022 (from $195M from 2017 to 2022). Which is still higher than what the owners want ($214M). But way lower than $300M.

steveo
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Sorry, I meant the last two CBAs. In 2011 it was 178M. Don’t feel like doing the math, but pretty sure that takes us in the upper 200s.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  steveo

From $178M in 2011 would be $222.5M today, per CPI.

steveo
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Damn, sorry. I must be thinking about something else? Math isn’t my strong suit lol.

dodgerbleu
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Fangraphs has said it would be at like $278 using CPI. I, for one, didn’t double check but it did sound rather high. Thanks for confirming.

dodgerbleu
4 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

From the Jaffe article the other day – not CPI but 5% annual instead.

As you can see, the first threshold has barely budged in recent years, falling short of even a typical 2% or 3% cost-of-living adjustment, let alone the rate of inflation. As MLB Trade Rumors’ Tim Dierkes explained, “A simple 5% increase per year beginning in 2012 would have put the 2021 base tax threshold around $290MM, yet it sat only at $210MM.”

I’m sure I’ve seen FG reference CPI and high $200’s though.

steveo
4 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

This is what it was, thanks. I was confusing the two. The MLBPA really screwed this up. It makes you wonder what the hell they were thinking these last two CBAs. It really screwed them up for future negotiations.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

I don’t think it’s unreasonable for unions to ask for more above the rate of inflation, and given that MLB has made it really hard to figure out the true revenues that teams are reaping I understand why they just want to raise the tax line as high as possible and let the chips fall.

I also kind of think the sport is better when the Yankees can’t (or won’t) go out and buy every single player. So while I see where the union is coming from, I also don’t really mind the CBT as a fan. I’m more partial to items that will get lower revenue teams to spend more (and give them the resources to do it) while also getting money to players earlier in their careers.

My main concern about the owners’ offer on the CBT is actually that it’s one part of a larger picture, which is that the owners have basically decided not to negotiate on anything and we’re not going to get baseball at all. Which, frankly, is a bit more important to me than where exactly the CBT line is set.

steveo
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Meh. They’re not going to run a 500M payroll. Not like they’re signing top free agents every year. If they literally had a star at every position I’d agree with you. But I do think a good Yankees team (and other large market teams) are good for the sport because they generate more interest than other teams. I guarantee you if there was expansion the Rays wouldn’t want to leave the AL East and sacrifice extra gate revenue from playing the Yankees and the Red Sox. 200M doesn’t go very far anymore like it did in the early to mid 2000s. Next year, they’re going to spend ~120M on just 5 players (Hicks, Judge, Stanton, Cole, DJLM) and that’s with huge holes and multiple guys hitting free agency. Doesn’t really leave much left for arb guys, free agents, and minimum guys if you’re gonna only spend 200M.

I do agree with your second point though. It’s bad faith negotiating. And the MLBPA is sick of it and it’s clearly showing.

thornt25
4 years ago
Reply to  fleur

I really like MLB’s current competitive balance and it’s interesting how it’s achieved with such disparities in payroll. Of course money should buy you a better team, but not too much. That’s why I don’t want to see massive changes that discourage small market teams from even trying (like slashing revenue sharing or reducing time to FA).

Having said that, many of MLB’s claims of competitive balance are just really just ways to keep payroll from increasing much, like this proposal.

steveo
4 years ago
Reply to  thornt25

Money isn’t as helpful as fans think. The Rays traded away Blake Snell because he was expensive. Chris Archer, etc. A lot of times you avoid decline/injury and get good young players back. If they had an average payroll, they’d never trade those guys. When you’re constantly trying to win and add you get saddled with big contracts and you have to keep playing them for a while. Like the Nats are still going to throw Patrick Corbin out there every 5th day even though he was one of the worst pitchers in baseball. Money definitely helps overall, but it has it’s upsides and downsides. Like the Rays can basically do whatever because they have zero expectations. If they’re bad, their payroll was too low. And if they’re good, then they exceeded expectations.

thornt25
4 years ago
Reply to  steveo

Generally, spending money leads to more wins, which is why there are Free Agent $/WAR estimates. It doesn’t always work of course, but taking the Nats as an example: Corbin was critical in their championship but overall that contract is bad, Scherzer contract was large but paid off massively, Strasburg’s contract doesn’t look good, they avoided signing Harper who is crushing it on the Phillies. Overall that package of players helps them win more at the cost of money. In the current MLB setup, a team can’t really spend its way to victory. They need to have high performing young talent, and this is good given the assumed massive differences in team revenues.

thornt25
4 years ago

The owners want to trade the Qualifying Offer for these draconian cap penalties. Not going to happen. Eliminating the QO can’t be that valuable.

channelclemente
4 years ago

Just an excellent deep dive.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
4 years ago

Given that businesses in most sectors are behaving as rhe owners are, is there some sort of countrywide financial collapse upcoming that’s been predicted? A house of cards that’s going to fall?

MikeD
4 years ago

During previous CBA negotiations that led to either a lockout or a strike, MLB has always tried to paint the players as being the bad guys. The difference is back then sites like Fangraphs didn’t exist. Fans now are way better informed, and that’s not going to be helpful to MLB when they try to turn public opinion against players.

Vegas Baby
4 years ago

What about a $1 minimum salary, in exchange for players agreeing no contract can run more than 5 years? The long term contracts can crush teams. Players get a huge salary boost early, teams get protection from disaster deals.

What about arbitration every year? Players should love that? In exchange, players could agree arbitrators can reduce salary for players who underperform?