The Future for David Denson on the Field

Milwaukee Brewers prospect David Denson made history yesterday when he revealed he is gay. With his announcement, Denson became the first active, openly gay player in the history of affiliated baseball.

Given his significance to the game, there’s unlikely to be any shortage of coverage regarding Denson in either the near- or long-term. As some of the authors of that coverage have already noted, attempting to become a major leaguer is difficult enough without having to contend with questions of personal identity and concerns about acceptance at the same time. Denson himself has stated that he’s relieved that he can divert more of his energy now to baseball itself.

What I’d like to do here is set aside for a moment the implications of David Denson, gay ballplayer, and to utilize my KATOH projection system to consider briefly Denson’s prospects for reaching the majors.

Just 19 now, Denson was drafted by the Brewers in the 15th round in 2013, and has split the 2015 season between Low-A Wisconsin and Rookie League Helena, where he currently plays. In 268 trips to the plate this year, the first baseman has hit just .229/.313/.360, due in no small part to his elevated 26% strikeout rate. Denson opened the year in Low-A, where he also spent the second half of the 2014 season. But the Brewers reassigned him to extended spring training in May when he was hitting .195/.264/.305. He’s put up a more respectable .247/.339/.390 line since joining the Brewers Rookie League affiliate in June. Based on his 2015 numbers,  forecasts Denson for just 0.2 WAR through age 28, with a meager 6% chance of cracking the big leagues.

Denson performed much better last year, however, when he hit .244/.371/.351 in 291 plate appearances — mostly at the Low-A level. He struck out in an alarming 30% of his trips to the plate, but did enough in the other 70% to be one of his league’s better hitters. Very few 19-year-olds are capable of out-hitting the average Low-A hitter. However, Denson’s success had a lot to do with his 16% walk rate, and walks aren’t very predictive of big-league success for hitters in the low minors. As a result, KATOH pegged him for an unspectacular 1.7 WAR through age 28, with a 31% chance of making the majors.

We can’t know for sure why Denson’s performance cratered in his second go-around in the Midwest League. There are countless factors that influence players’ performance, and given the small sample sizes at play, pure luck almost certainly played some role. But Denson feels his struggles had a lot to do with his internal conflicts about hiding his sexuality.

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“It became a depression level,” Denson told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. “It started to affect my game because I was so caught up in trying to hide it. I was so concerned about how they would feel. I was pushing my feelings aside.”

Most of us can’t begin to relate to what Denson has gone through, let alone how it’s affected his performance on the baseball field. But one could certainly imagine how Denson’s internal struggles might have served as a distraction. The grind of playing minor-league baseball is hard enough for a late adolescent, even without the added stresses with which Denson has dealt.

In his preseason write-up of the Brewers organization, Kiley McDaniel ranked Denson 17th among prospects in the team’s system. He gave Denson a FV of 40, which is the equivalent of a big league backup. Kiley had glowing words for Denson’s hitting abilities:

“Denson is deceptively quick, has an average arm, plate discipline so advanced that low minors umps frustrate him with their inconsistent zones, easy plus raw power and makeup that coaches love. He already looks like a steal after a strong 19-year-old season at Low-A and there’s still work to do, but the elements are here.”

Let’s pull up some statistical comps for Denson to give us a sense of his offensive upside. Since Denson’s 2015 performance has come over a relatively small sample size — and one that likely doesn’t appropriately reflect his abilities — let’s refer back to his 2014 campaign for this exercise. Using league-adjusted, regressed stats, along with age, I calculated the Mahalanobis Distance between Denson’s 2014 performance and every Low-A season since 1990 in which a batter recorded at least 400 plate appearances. Below, you’ll find a list of historical players whose performances were nearest and dearest to Denson’s, ranked from most to least similar.

Rank Mah Dist Name PA thru 28 WAR thru 28
1 0.64 Adam Hyzdu 18 0.2
2 0.89 Everett Williams* 0 0.0
3 0.93 Justin Jackson* 0 0.0
4 0.97 Mitch Einertson 0 0.0
5 1.05 Ed Quijada 0 0.0
6 1.05 Xavier Paul 746 0.0
7 1.13 Mike Napoli 1,804 11.9
8 1.15 Travis Mattair* 0 0.0
9 1.22 Raul Tablado 0 0.0
10 1.30 Jamie Ogden 0 0.0
11 1.32 Kevin Burford 0 0.0
12 1.33 Jonathan Galvez* 0 0.0
13 1.37 Eric Knowles 0 0.0
14 1.40 Jake Skole* 0 0.0
15 1.45 Roman Pena* 0 0.0
16 1.49 Will Middlebrooks* 1,164 0.8
17 1.54 Scott Moore 430 0.0
18 1.58 Darwin Perez* 0 0.0
19 1.62 Edgardo Baez 0 0.0
20 1.62 Micah Schilling 0 0.0

*Hitters who have yet to play their age-28 seasons.

Just five of his top 20 comps ever made it to the show, which jibes with KATOH’s unenthusiastic forecasts. Only one of those five — Mike Napoli — was worth more than a modicum of value to his big league teams. The history of players similar to Denson isn’t particularly encouraging.

It’s possible Denson’s prospect trajectory will improve now that this burden is no longer on his shoulders. But going by what he’s done in the past, he’s something of a long shot to make it to the big leagues. That’s the way it is for most players who are plugging away in the low minors. Still, even if he never makes it past A-Ball, Denson’s likely already had more of an impact on the game than many players who advanced much further. Not only was his coming out publicly a tremendous act of courage, but it will help clear the path for other baseball players to do the same.





Chris works in economic development by day, but spends most of his nights thinking about baseball. He writes for Pinstripe Pundits, FanGraphs and The Hardball Times. He's also on the twitter machine: @_chris_mitchell None of the views expressed in his articles reflect those of his daytime employer.

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durn
10 years ago

Hopefully he gets a shot at the majors and has success so we can start to move forward with openly gay players in baseball and soon it will be no big deal with I think is the general goal.

TKDC
10 years ago
Reply to  durn

Or, since he’s years away from the bigs, maybe this will spur someone who is already in the MLB to do so? I do think the Jarrod Collins approach of coming out right before your career is over is probably the easiest way. It would be nice if a guy that is likely a marginal player at best didn’t have to shoulder that responsibility (yes, of course he could have not come out but those are really kind of two pretty bad choices).

jose
10 years ago
Reply to  durn

Hopefully he gets treated just like anyone else and only gets to the big leagues if he actually earns it.

Robert
10 years ago
Reply to  jose

He won’t make the majors permanently unless he’s good enough. No team is going to just put him on the roster because he’s gay. Sure, it’s possible he might get a September, cup-of-coffee call up just for show, but that’s been done for other reasons too. Ultimately, if he’s going to stick long term, he’ll need to be worthy.

Slacker George
10 years ago
Reply to  jose

Ah, the “reverse bigotry” shot-across-the-bow. Well played.

You cant say anything uncontroversial then
10 years ago
Reply to  Slacker George

You gotta relax. I don’t think there’s been a problem with sexual orientation in some time in MLB. Sure you will find it privately which is their right. What corporation is making life difficult for gay individuals

WhatNow
10 years ago

I can appreciate that he was young for Low-A in 2014, but does a first baseman who ranks 76th in the league in OPS and only outhit his team by 18 points really qualify as “one of his league’s better hitters?”

jose
10 years ago
Reply to  WhatNow

definitely top 100.

rustydudeMember since 2021
10 years ago

Just my opinion but I don’t think this analysis is particularly helpful nor insightful. Better to just celebrate that a minor leaguer felt comfortable sharing his sexual orientation and the progress that it represents, and leave it at that. Comparing his stats, age, draft position to others, just puts a wet blanket over something that is otherwise a cause for celebration.

John
10 years ago
Reply to  rustydude

I understand your position, but I think that this was respectfully done–and I was pretty curious about this question.

tz
10 years ago
Reply to  John

Same here. Nothing different than getting the football background on Michael Sam, who made himself into a star SEC player after not being heavily recruited, but wasn’t a top draft prospect because the same physical attributes that kept him from being heavily recruited also made him a “tweener” size-wise for being an NFL defensive end.

It’s good to have a realistic idea of Denson’s odds of making the majors, as a proper starting point for seeing how he progresses.

Bryz
10 years ago
Reply to  rustydude

I have to disagree here. Upon learning that David Denson exists, I was curious to know who he is. Considering I had never heard of him before now, was he a top prospect, a minor league filler with no future, or somewhere in between? He may not be much of a prospect to some, but I think this article was useful in determining if we’ll hear much of Denson for his work on the field as much as we’ll hear about his personal life off the field.

M
10 years ago
Reply to  Bryz

Agreed. When I heard this story my first reaction was to go look at his baseball background and minor league numbers to see if he might be a legit major league prospect. Eventually there is going to be an openly gay MLB player and more will follow. There may not be many of them, but at least it’s something that eventually will not be considered newsworthy. I was hoping Denson would be a step in that direction. On one level he certainly is, but his chances of making the majors, or being an impact player at this point are not strong.

Cool Lester Smooth
10 years ago
Reply to  M

Yeah, I hope all of these kids make the majors, but Denson doesn’t seem like an especially good bet (although it will be interesting to see if his numbers tick up now that he doesn’t have to deal with being in the closet anymore).

The real impact will be that he just made it a lot easier for other players to come out while active, by taking the first step.

QueerBaseballFan
10 years ago
Reply to  rustydude

I think I agree with rustydude. While I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t curious about the prospects of David reaching the pros, and I appreciate the author breaking that down well, I do think this is an opportunity to shine a spotlight on how this particular athlete is different. And while I doubt he wants different treatment from those around him or within the game, I think that’s kinda the point. There’s no reason for him to have to deal with the internalized shame or homophobia or anything else that led him to have to worry about his sexual orientation. And that shouldn’t be any different if he’s the second coming of Willie Mays or out of the game in a year.

And maybe this author’s not qualified to talk about those specific things, but maybe that’s another opportunity for this site to have more diverse authors, viewpoints, and articles. (Not throwing shade at Chris, I swear!)

I remember Alex Remington (I think?) did a series of articles here years ago about women in baseball and the commenters nearly lost their minds over someone having the audacity to talk about the possibility that women might someday be included in, or be credited for changing the sport. Similar things happened when there were articles addressing race and racism within baseball. I don’t know, I liked those articles. Thought they really added some depth to the game we all love.

And while people’s responses here are way more tempered, I do think the idea that “one day this won’t be newsworthy” will only happen if we look internally at what we all might do to add or uphold homophobia, in order to eradicate it from the game, and our society as a whole.

Matt
10 years ago

This is awesome, good for him. I wish him the best of luck.

Just because he is gay though doesn’t mean we should analyze him differently than other players. FG never gives other players a complete 100% pass on current season statistics, especially in mid-August for a guy that’s been playing all year. To evaluate based on 2014 and completely ignore 2015 is disingenuous. His 269 PA this year are a small sample size, but his 291 PA from last year are an indicator of true talent? Lazy. Analyze everyone the same, please.

Chris K
10 years ago
Reply to  Matt

Yeah. if only the author had said something like “[b]ased on his 2015 numbers, [KATOH] forecasts Denson for just 0.2 WAR through age 28, with a meager 6% chance of cracking the big leagues.”

Matt
10 years ago
Reply to  Chris K

If only the author had also written “Since Denson’s 2015 performance has come over a relatively small sample size — and one that likely doesn’t appropriately reflect his abilities — let’s refer back to his 2014 campaign for this exercise.”, and then finished his analysis using only 2014 data.

Blind mob mentality. Score one for individuality. Go ahead and pretend he didn’t discard 2014 numbers and pretend you’re really that ignorant. I’ll pretend I didn’t actually read the full article. I’ll let you have. After all, arguing with a fool proves there are two.

Slacker George
10 years ago
Reply to  Matt

Matt, just what aggrieved group are you trying to shoehorn yourself into?

TKDC
10 years ago
Reply to  Matt

something you disagree with = blind mob mentality

You cant say anything uncontroversial then
10 years ago
Reply to  Matt

Look at the ratio of responses. How would you describe the current opinion?

TKDC
10 years ago
Reply to  Matt

People also overwhelmingly believe the Earth is round, that doesn’t mean it is “blind mob mentality.”

Neil
10 years ago
Reply to  Matt

Yeah, no evidence that homophobia affected the careers and performance of Glenn Burke or the recently retired (if maybe only temporarily) Michael Sam, either, right?

Cool Lester Smooth
10 years ago
Reply to  Neil

Sam’s career wasn’t affected by homophobia any more than Jorge Vazquez’s was by Hispaniphobia.

The Cowboys, who cut him from their practice squad, signed Greg fucking Hardy this offseason, do you really think they give a shit what you do in your personal life if you can play?

He was too weak to be an NFL OLB, and too slow and unathletic to be a DE, or to succeed in the CFL in any capacity.

It sucks, but it happens.

You cant say anything uncontroversial then
10 years ago

I wish someone like troy aikmen would come out so the witch hunts will end. We need to respect free speech. Too many topics are the new communism and it’s not efficient

Simon
10 years ago

Glenn Burke was almost completely out when he played in the MLB for the Dodgers and A’s in the late 70’s. So Denson is not really the first, but good luck to him.

Cool Lester Smooth
10 years ago
Reply to  Simon

I think Burke was only out to his team, though (although that’s all that really matters). It was only publicly known a few years after he had retired.

You cant say anything uncontroversial then
10 years ago

It was reported during I’m fairly sure. Major media wouldn’t print it at the time for various censorship reasons. There were newsletters and the like that the story was distributed in

Rob
10 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Apologies is this gets posted twice. My initial try went into moderation, most likely because I spelled out a word that Billy Martin used to describe Glenn Burke to illustrate the battle Burke fought.

Denson is the first to come out while playing. Burke didn’t come out until after he left the game, but it was known within the game that he was gay while he played. He just never confirmed it publicly, saving himself from the media glare and the taunting of fans. There were one or two instances of those but for the most part he avoided that.

His teammates on the Dodgers guessed that he was gay, and the team then traded him away because management was uncomfortable with his lifestyle and his relationship with Tommy Lasorda’s son, who would eventually die from AIDs, even though Lasorda refuses to acknowledge that to this day. When traded to the A’s, Billy Martin introduced him as the team’s new fa**ot. I say that not for shock, but so that people understand that while Burke didn’t come out as gay while playing, he still had to deal with abuse from team management and certainly some players.

Denson is the first pro-baseball player to come out while still playing and will have to deal with the media attention as well as ridicule from fans. We can’t pretend that we live in such an enlightened world where fans won’t taunt him based on his lifestyle, and that he won’t have teammates who will be less than accepting. In some ways he might have it a little easier than Burke, but in many ways he’ll have it more difficult. The hard part is still to come, but what he’s done will ultimately make it easier for other players to come out in the future, or more appropriately not hide, if that’s their wish.

Owen S
10 years ago

I wonder what Torii Hunter will have to say about all this.

You cant say anything uncontroversial then
10 years ago
Reply to  Owen S

Who cares. He’s an idiot

Owen S
10 years ago

Also, Lol. We got one comment which says, let’s just celebrate that the dude had the courage to come out and not ruin it with all this objective analysis. Then we have another comment which says, yea good for him, coming out and all, but we shouldn’t let that disrupt what should be an objective analysis.

Neil
10 years ago

I’d like to add, here, that this is really only the beginning for Denson. A lot of us celebrated Michael Sam’s coming out, too. But according to Sam’s own words – “The last 12 months have been very difficult for me, to the point where I became concerned with my mental health. Because of this I am going to step away from the game at this time.” – the events that followed his coming out were far more difficult than what came before.

So, let’s celebrate this, sure. But, at the same time, let’s also acknowledge that things are probably going to get harder for Denson before they get easier.

Cool Lester Smooth
10 years ago
Reply to  Neil

Eh, things are a lot different for minor league baseball players.

No one cares enough about them to offer reality show deals or Dancing with the Stars appearances, and they don’t have another league to underestimate the difficulty of.

Cool Lester Smooth
10 years ago

The absolute lack of a spotlight should make things a lot easier for Denson than they were for Sam.

Rob
10 years ago

Maybe. The fact he’s in the minor leagues though might mean he’ll absorb more abuse from fans and players without the media to shine a light on the abuse. Either way, I think he’s in for a tougher road than he planned.

Cool Lester Smooth
10 years ago

Sam was out to his teammates for the entirety of his senior season, with no issues. Also, the only people who go to lower minors games are locals, people with kids, and scouts.

My only fear would be if there’s another incident like when that punk Christian Vazquez had Slade Heathcott thrown at and then started talking shit to him the day after that story about his home life and alcoholism broke.

You cant say anything uncontroversial then
10 years ago

I think media discussing the topics endlessly is the only systematic negative these players experience. I’m happy for denson. Seriously why is this a story? I don’t want to hear about swingers, adultary, bondage, or polygamy either. Not everything is cheer worthy. Folks that act poorly to gays have the right and the public generally reacts accordingly at the private level. I think the media attention, to this degree, isn’t helpful because you are just shifting the negative emotions. Let’s improve relations, not just shift them. The snap reaction against anything less than cheerleading is just as bad as homophobia imo

Adohaj
10 years ago

So is he the pitcher or the catcher?

Solas
10 years ago
Reply to  Adohaj

He’s the first baseman so I hope he gets some nice hard wood and smacks you in your homophobic face.

You cant say anything uncontroversial then
10 years ago
Reply to  Solas

Relax