The Most Atypical Players in Baseball

Greetings! Yesterday, I wrote about how Billy Hamilton is a freak. If you didn’t read the post, let me save you some time. First of all, yeah, you kind of already knew that. But, statistically, he’s gone almost without comparison. I looked at all regulars and semi-regulars through age 25, going back to 1961, and I examined their batting, baserunning, and defense. Based on my analysis, Hamilton stands out, with his closest comp being Julio Cruz. To this point, he’s been a terrible hitter. He’s also been an elite runner and defender. Highly unusual!

Related to that, I felt somewhat inspired. That was a post about how Hamilton is atypical. Who else these days is atypical? Who these days is the most atypical? What follows is a quick and similar analysis. Of course, you haven’t seen the last of Hamilton’s name.

For this one, I considered just the last three years, and I set a minimum of 750 plate appearances. In the Hamilton post, I pulled numbers from Baseball-Reference, but this time I used our own data, since we’re not going deep into history. This is just about position players, and there are 299 of them in the spreadsheet. Once again, I examined batting, baserunning, and defending.

I put all three numbers over a common denominator, and then I calculated the averages and the standard deviations. For each player, and for each stat, I figured out the number of standard deviations from the mean, and then I took the absolute value to keep everything positive. The last step was adding up the three z-scores. To be consistent, I’ll call this final rating the Sim Score, again. The lower the Sim Score, the more typical the player, by this analysis. And, of course, the higher the Sim Score, the weirder the profile.

The average Sim Score was 2.4. The player with the lowest rating is Asdrubal Cabrera, at 0.2. You could consider him to be arguably the most ordinary player in baseball. Just behind him, Stephen Vogt and Marcus Semien, both at 0.4. It’s not about these players being bad. It’s about them just being across-the-board normal. Nothing there that’s particularly outstanding.

You Aren't a FanGraphs Member
It looks like you aren't yet a FanGraphs Member (or aren't logged in). We aren't mad, just disappointed.
We get it. You want to read this article. But before we let you get back to it, we'd like to point out a few of the good reasons why you should become a Member.
1. Ad Free viewing! We won't bug you with this ad, or any other.
2. Unlimited articles! Non-Members only get to read 10 free articles a month. Members never get cut off.
3. Dark mode and Classic mode!
4. Custom player page dashboards! Choose the player cards you want, in the order you want them.
5. One-click data exports! Export our projections and leaderboards for your personal projects.
6. Remove the photos on the home page! (Honestly, this doesn't sound so great to us, but some people wanted it, and we like to give our Members what they want.)
7. Even more Steamer projections! We have handedness, percentile, and context neutral projections available for Members only.
8. Get FanGraphs Walk-Off, a customized year end review! Find out exactly how you used FanGraphs this year, and how that compares to other Members. Don't be a victim of FOMO.
9. A weekly mailbag column, exclusively for Members.
10. Help support FanGraphs and our entire staff! Our Members provide us with critical resources to improve the site and deliver new features!
We hope you'll consider a Membership today, for yourself or as a gift! And we realize this has been an awfully long sales pitch, so we've also removed all the other ads in this article. We didn't want to overdo it.

Okay, so, the other side is more interesting. Here are the 10 most atypical players, by this measure.

Top 10 Atypical Players
Player Sim Score
Billy Hamilton 7.6
Jarrod Dyson 7.0
David Ortiz 5.6
Victor Martinez 5.4
Nick Ahmed 5.4
Mike Trout 5.2
Miguel Cabrera 5.0
James McCann 4.8
Tucker Barnhart 4.8
Joey Votto 4.8
Uses data from 2014 – 2016, with a minimum of 750 plate appearances.

Nothing weird about finding Hamilton again, since a similar analysis identified him as being historically exceptional. There’s no consistent player type here. I don’t think Hamilton could be more different from Ortiz, but there they are anyway, two places apart. Hamilton has provided awful hitting, great running, and great defense. Ortiz provided awesome hitting, awful running, and awful defense (positional adjustment included). Ortiz is there for the same reason Martinez is there. For the same reason Cabrera is there. Trout, incidentally, is here because of his excellent hitting and above-average running. The defense has been basically average, but, whatever.

If you’re like me, you’ve gotten stuck on Dyson. We all probably expected to see Hamilton on top, but Dyson is close by, and then there’s a sizable gap before you get to Ortiz. Dyson didn’t show up in Thursday’s analysis because he barely even played in the majors before turning 26. And Dyson, now, is 32. I can’t imagine that his best days are in front of him, but he and Hamilton are extremely similar players. Much like Hamilton, Dyson doesn’t do much of anything at the plate, and his numbers would be even worse if he hadn’t been protected against most southpaws. But Dyson has rated as a phenomenal runner and defender, for years. He’s the kind of player who, a few years ago, we might’ve propped up as being severely underrated. He probably is underrated. It makes me wonder about the trade market.

It feels a little bit like center fielders are everywhere. Andrew McCutchen could get traded at any moment, and in our chats we’re always dealing with questions about Ender Inciarte. Dexter Fowler is a free agent, and Ian Desmond and Carlos Gomez are free agents, and Hamilton himself could be available since he’s entering his arbitration years. I don’t think I’ve seen anything about Dyson, but he’s cheap, and he’s entering his final year of control. The Royals are neither good nor bad, and they might need to shift their priorities. Why shouldn’t some team take a shot on Dyson?

I’m actually thinking specifically about the Cardinals. The Royals could plug the middle with Billy Burns and/or Paulo Orlando. They’d survive. The Cardinals could use a strong defensive center fielder, and it doesn’t seem like Dyson would cost them very much. They could still protect him against lefties by platooning him with Tommy Pham, and then in those southpaw games, Dyson could enter as defensive relief. The last three years in center field, Billy Hamilton has posted a UZR/150 of +19. Dyson has come in at +27. DRS has loved Dyson, too, and even though he’s only getting older, we’d be talking about one year. One year, and the Cardinals could keep their most-prized young talent.

I know that Dyson doesn’t do much with the bat, and I know there are better players. I also know the Cardinals err against blockbusters, and Dyson would fit what they’re looking for. The Reds won’t give up Hamilton for cheap. There’s still too much promise there for that to happen. Dyson is less about promise and more about skills that have gone by potentially underrated. Bat him eighth or ninth and it’s not so bad. The pitchers would be grateful.

This post took a turn in the middle. What started out as a simple analysis turned into trade speculation, and I don’t want to make a habit of that. True to expectations, Billy Hamilton shows up as arguably the most atypical position player in the game. Nearest to him, though, is Jarrod Dyson, who’s older, but who’s remarkably similar. There are teams out there wondering what Hamilton might be able to provide to the roster. For those teams, it’s worth acknowledging there’s a cheaper alternative. Hamilton isn’t quite the only one of his type around.





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

28 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
AnalyticsByProxy
9 years ago

“This post took a turn in the middle.” Understatement.

However, that turn leads to another opportunity for you to swing at the horse: Which teams acquire freaks? You posit the Cards, certainly we could test that with the sim score you’ve created.

Rufus T. FireflyMember since 2019
9 years ago

Swing at the horse? Is that a thing?

Barnard
9 years ago

The only way to beat a dead horse is to swing at it first

John Elway
9 years ago
Reply to  Barnard

HAY!

John Autin
9 years ago

Rufus, have you ever been to this site?
http://rufustf.com/

(Don’t go before you’ve had your morning coffee.)

Rufus T. FireflyMember since 2019
9 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

@John– Wowza! Thanks. My moniker refers of course, to this fellow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsw9jYU_rJI

John Autin
9 years ago

Rufus T — Of course! And I would gladly join any club of which you are a member.

Brian ReinhartMember since 2016
9 years ago

It’s a thing in “Blazing Saddles”!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8cDfnQD0ws

YKnotDisco
9 years ago
Reply to  Brian Reinhart

“We don’t need no stinking’ badges”

JimMember since 2016
9 years ago

Jeff, tell us why McCann and Barnhart are included.

DDMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  Jim

Looks like both are very good defenders, but terrible hitters and baserunners, so they hit extremes in each category. Barnhardt barely makes the PA cutoff Jeff used as well.

AlMember since 2016
9 years ago

Fun post, thanks. I wonder what kind of results you might get if you ran a similar kind of analysis but broke offense down a little bit further by separating average (maybe contact %) and power (iso?) as independent variables in place of “Offense”. (This feels like something Carson has done, but maybe with AA prospects)

DDMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  Al

I agree that would be interesting to see. So instead of the three categories here, you choose some proxies for plate discipline (BB%?), power (ISO), and contact (contact % or K%). I would think Hamilton might show up again as a low K, low ISO guy.

jwise224Member since 2024
9 years ago

A surefire chance to wax poetic about Nick Ahmed and you let it slip away? …I don’t blame you.

JDX
9 years ago

Cabrera and Votto are very similar… interesting that they’d both show up! Maybe they are just both so dissimilar to the rest of their comparisons!

Spanish Lefty
9 years ago

Great article. I saw when someone suggested it yesterday and today is already written.

However…

1.- In the first part you clearly state that being different doesn’t mean you are tradeable or above average. It makes sense due to the PA minimum, if not I would be in that list 🙂

2.- You must change the title of this article. In the second part you made Jarrod Dyson mainstream. And linked him being different to being tradeable. In fact, he’s just very good (not hitting thought) and for some reason he isn’t making any headlines.

Great post.

DBA455
9 years ago
Reply to  Spanish Lefty

yes! It’s Jarrod Dyson day today. An event as important as Arbor Day, only harder to find on your calendar:

https://twitter.com/jcrasnick/status/804736920756621313

PerplexCity
9 years ago

Nice post: I like the z-score methodology. I do have one question though:
You need to take the absolute value of the z-scores so that you find raw distance from the mean and don’t have values cancelling each other out once you sum them. But what that does is it equates someone, say, who’s highly above average in both baserunning and defense with someone who’s highly above average at baserunning and highly below average at defense. Since there is an obvious positive correlation between those two–speed is very useful out in the field–I’d argue that the second player is more “atypical.” So I wonder how the analysis would look if you weighed more heavily those players with such contradictions, and even how you would do that while still making the summing possible.
Anyway, awesome post!

DDMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  PerplexCity

I believe Jef did use absolute values of the standard deviations, thus an absolute value z-score? I don’t think he netted the awful with the elite results, otherwise Trout would likely be the top score (elite in hitting and baserunning, average on defense) or someone awful across the board (like Billy Butler).

PerplexCity
9 years ago
Reply to  DD

Poorly phrased on my part. When I say “you need to take absolute value,” I mean that he indeed did that and had justification for doing so. While that allows you to avoid extreme values in different directions cancelling each other out, it obfuscates certain flavors of atypical-ness, i.e. someone who is great at running and bad on defense, which seems more uncommon than someone who is great at both.

The Puck
9 years ago

‘If you’re like me, you’ve gotten stuck on Dyson. We all probably expected to see Hamilton on top, but Dyson is close by, and then there’s a sizable gap before you get to Ortiz.’

Hand to God (or whatever deity you choose) the first name that popped in my head after reading about Hamilton was Dyson. Bam, there he is. He’s an older version of Hamilton, really. Really fast, great defender, weak bat. Valuable and under-rated.

John Autin
9 years ago

I vote for Jeff to have more inspirations like this!

OneearMember since 2018
9 years ago
John
9 years ago
Reply to  Oneear

I just saw the same thing. Nice one Jeff

John Autin
9 years ago

Just for fun … In the last 5 years, 20 players have at least 100 SB. In that group, Dyson ranks:
— 6th in total SB (156, tied with Revere)
— 2nd in SB success rate (85%, a tick behind Alcides Escobar)
— 2nd in SB per time on base (behind Hamilton)
— 3rd in bWAR per 650 PAs (behind Trout and Marte)

The last two rates aren’t quite fair, since Dyson racks up steals and value in games where he doesn’t bat. But the list does help show just how long and consistently Dyson’s been doing his hidden-value trick.

Dylan Svoboda
9 years ago

I’d suggest a new title ‘Don’t tread On Dyson’

http://www.fangraphs.com/community/dont-tread-on-dyson/

kylemtanner
9 years ago

Life-long Royals fan, Dyson has always been one of my personal favorites, and I feel that the Royals severely underutilize him (granted his BA vs LHP is pretty bad…) I was very lucky to be at the game that he hit his first career Grand Slam this year. Great player with an amazing rise into the Majors (I mean seriously, what percentage of 50th round draft picks ever even make the 25 man roster, let alone play a major role during playoffs). Great article.