The Most Unhittable Arm in the Minors

The most unhittable arm in the minors is a 24-year-old lefty reliever. Two months ago, he was selected as a player to be named later in a major-league trade swung in February. He’s never made a prospect list of any significance, be it league-wide or organizational, and he doesn’t have any video clips on the official Minor League Baseball website. Whenever we write posts here, we’re supposed to include photos to go out to accompany the tweets, and I had to use a photo of the player from his previous club. I didn’t even know how to pronounce the guy’s last name until this morning.

The most unhittable arm in the minors is Colin Poche. Last year, he led the minor leagues in strikeout rate. This year, he again leads the minor leagues in strikeout rate, having increased his own strikeout rate by a dozen points despite going up against much stiffer competition. When Poche pitched in High-A last year, he struck out 37% of the hitters. In Double-A this year, he struck out 60% of the hitters. In Triple-A this year, he’s struck out 50% of the hitters. All year long, over 41.1 innings, he’s allowed just three runs. He’s allowed an OBP of .185, and he’s allowed a slugging percentage of .184. Colin Poche is turning in one of the most unbelievable performances you might ever see. Better still, it’s not entirely clear how he’s doing it.

Eric Longenhagen recently got a chance to watch Poche pitch. I’ll just excerpt the entirety of what he wrote:

Poche sits just 89-92 and has an above-average breaking ball. He reaches back for 94 at times, but on paper that looks like an up-and-down reliever. Somehow, Poche’s fastball makes hitters very uncomfortable and produces an elite swinging-strike rate. He has 78 strikeouts in just over 40 innings this year at Double- and Triple-A. He was acquired from Arizona as one of the PTBNL in the Souza deal, but a 2018 debut would require a 40-man alteration.

As a player, Poche is now Rays property, having been plucked from the Diamondbacks. At first, the Rays kept Poche in Double-A — when he was traded, he just had to walk to the stadium’s other clubhouse — but after three appearances, Poche was promoted to the International League. He’s continued to dominate, and he’s done so over multi-inning outings. Poche has gotten up to 55 pitches, and he’s twice been used as a Triple-A “opener.” While the Rays have an awfully crowded 40-man roster, Poche is putting himself in position to debut. And his stuff is still just…fine. The breaking ball is useful, and the fastball isn’t slow, but the explanation here appears to be a matter of deception. Poche himself would agree with that:

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Poche’s fastball doesn’t light up radar guns, usually staying around 92-93 mph. But it appears much faster to hitters because of the way he hides the ball on his load and then aggressively takes a long stride to the plate.

“I’ve always thrown that way,” he said. “Even when I was young and throwing slow, I was getting it by people.”

Poche doesn’t have a particularly funky delivery. There just has to be something about his arm action. We can get back into that a little later. For now, let’s play with some data. I think of Double-A and Triple-A as representing the high minors. So, here are all Double-A and Triple-A pitchers this year, displayed by their walks and strikeouts. Poche’s is the dot in yellow.

Out of the pool, Poche has the highest strikeout rate, by seven points. He has the highest K-BB%, by nine points. It’s clear that Poche is doing something exceptional. Let’s now expand the data set. FanGraphs has minor-league information stretching back to 2006. So here are all minor-league pitchers since 2006, split by season, with a minimum of at least 40 innings. This is no longer just Double-A and Triple-A; this is all levels. In yellow, you see 2018 Poche. In red, you see 2017 Poche.

It’s rare for a player to improve upon an extreme data point, given that forces typically conspire to bring extreme data points back to earth. Still, Poche continues to stand out. His current season is even more impressive than the last one. I know it’s not entirely fair to compare, since the 2018 season isn’t actually finished, but I’m just trying to get a point across. To give you some perspective. Here are the highest K-BB% marks since 2006, showing minor-league pitchers and their levels:

Top K-BB%, 2006 – 2018
Pitcher Level(s) Year K-BB%
Colin Poche AA – AAA 2018 47.2%
Juan De Leon R 2006 44.3%
Chris Paddack A 2016 43.1%
Chris Paddack A+ 2018 42.6%
Henry Owens AA 2006 41.6%
Grant Dayton AA – AAA 2016 40.4%
Jonathan Holder A+ – AA – AAA 2016 39.5%
Tony Cingrani R 2011 38.8%
Jeff Springs AA – AAA 2018 38.2%
Jon Meloan A – A+ – AA 2006 38.1%

Dayton might be the most appropriate comparison. And not just because he’s left-handed. I know his career has been derailed due to injury, but Dayton dominated in 2016 with a low-90s fastball, and he took that domination with him into the bigs. Down the stretch, Dayton became one of the Dodgers’ more trusted relievers. Pitchers break, but Dayton was still some proof of concept. And it’s not as if his career is all done.

It took me a long time to try to find any half-decent Poche video. I had to go back to spring training, when Poche relieved a few times with the Diamondbacks. Here, then, are four fastballs, with the camera observing from an unfortunate angle. Nothing I can do. Fastball No. 1:

Fastball No. 2:

Fastball No. 3:

Fastball No. 4:

As the deception goes, my guess is that Poche must keep the ball hidden behind his head and elbow right up until release. That would be the old Yusmeiro Petit “invisi-ball” trick. And given both Poche’s arm slot and fly-ball tendencies, I assume he has one of those rising fastballs, one of those fastballs that stays above the barrel. The Rays have fallen in love with those fastballs before, and they’ve made a whole industry out of separating the high rising fastball and the low diving breaking ball. I can’t say as a matter of fact that this is how Poche is successful, but it’s the best I’ve got for now. Besides, the explanation is less relevant than the reality. What’s real is that Poche has dominated higher-level opponents. That’s the best indicator of success against the highest level of opponents there is.

I don’t know if Poche will get that chance in 2018. Even if he does, it’s unlikely to mean much with regard to the playoff hunt, since the Rays are looking way up at the competition. And of course, there’s no guarantee at all that what Poche is doing can carry over into the majors. No hitters are more skilled than the hitters in the bigs, and they’ve seen so-called deceptive deliveries before. Maybe they’ll sniff Poche out, I don’t know. There’s a reason why players become more valuable when they start to have success in the bigs. It’s because, to major-league organizations, success in the bigs is really the only success that matters.

Colin Poche, then, remains something of an unknown. He’s not thought of as a top prospect, and since he pitches with the Rays, it’s not even obvious what his role should be called. He’s a reliever, but he’s more than that; he’s a starter, but he’s less than that. He’s a pitcher, I suppose — maybe that’s as precise as we need. And I think there are few more intriguing pitchers on the continent. You can’t fluke your way into Colin Poche’s statistics. They’re his statistics that just boggle the mind.





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

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RoyalsFan#14321Member since 2020
8 years ago

I know apparently nothing about prospect status, but how is a guy leading the minors in K% a PTBNL?

Mahoney
8 years ago

More importantly, how did he miss being included in Cistulli’s Fringe Five?

RotoholicMember since 2016
8 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Sullivan

Has a guy ever been this good in AA and AAA in his early 20s and then not been able to get MLB hitters out?

Travis LMember since 2016
8 years ago
Reply to  Rotoholic

The chart titled “Top K-BB%, 2006 – 2018” doesn’t have a lot of MLB WAR, despite being arguably the closest comps to Poche.

vslykeMember since 2020
8 years ago

His 2017 stats were good, but not this good. The stats also weren’t particularly notable for a 23 year old reliever who split the year between A ball and high-A ball (where his numbers fell off somewhat). Combine that with middling stuff, and its easy to see where a FO might make him available.

johansantana17Member since 2026
8 years ago

The Dbacks are not know for their scouting acumen

Dave Stewart
8 years ago
Reply to  johansantana17

We scouted acumen AND alabies. The Braves just offered them more money to sign.

Ruben Amaro Jr.
8 years ago
Reply to  Dave Stewart

Dumbass.

TheNEW_guy
8 years ago

PTBNL could be a group of guys that are agreed to in some combination but not decided upon

bettingresource.com
8 years ago

Relax guys. He is ust an RP. If Romo gets traded he will have a chance to come up and maybe close for TB

tb.25
8 years ago

There are a few specific guys, like him, that would be so satisfying to have in the majors for analysis, with Statcast and the cameras and all the resources.

slim_scsi
8 years ago

This has to piss baseball media writers off a little bit…. a guy who sits 89-92 with a 50% K rate?! Hahahahahaha….. Love it. Not everything fits perfectly in the cookie cutter.

slamcactusMember since 2020
8 years ago

Would you say he was …poached…from the Diamondbacks?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  slamcactus

Poched, actually

Shirtless George Brett
8 years ago

Yeah I can see how the ball would be hard to pick up even from those bad angles. He shoots his arm straight down behind his body and it never really reappears until basically he releases the ball.

Mahoney
8 years ago

It must look like the ball shoots out from his left ear, with that delivery.

DBA455
8 years ago

Seems to me this screams out for a follow-up piece on Chris Paddack!

DBA455
8 years ago
Reply to  DBA455

(Or perhaps that ground has just been ceded to Cistulli.)

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
8 years ago

I am a big fan of the unsung player who has to produce every day and twice on Sunday to get out of the circular file that “non-prospects” are put in so Colin Poche is on my radar. What is deception? It has to be real but there is no model to use to measure it. As a deeply dyed-in-the-wool RedSox fan I remember, with great fondness, the career of one Koji Uehara who threw an 89 mph mediumball and a 79 mph “invisiball” and put up a 101/9 K/BB ration in 74 innings in 2013. I can understand, maybe, hitters struggling with his splitter but nobody ever hit his mediumball either. Every time he went came in it was an event. How did he do it?

Shirtless George Brett
8 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

Uehara did it by having two pitches that looked virtually identical until about 15 feet before the plate when one would disapear and then throwing said pitches equally (in 2013 he threw his FB 46% and his splitter 48%) so hitters basically had to guess which one was coming.

LMOTFOTEMember since 2017
8 years ago

Impeccable control too— kept that splitter down consistently so it was almost impossible to hit well.

OTMHeartBBCMember since 2019
8 years ago

Another Ray’s puff piece!

thebearproofsuit
8 years ago

How apt would a young T. Cingrani comparison be? Cingrani throws harder now, but was 92-93 when he came up.

Dan GreerMember since 2018
8 years ago

Cingrani was interesting in that he was very close to a one-pitch guy when he came up. It may be a pretty good comparison though – Cingrani with a decent breaking ball would be a bananas reliever.

Dominikk85Member since 2020
8 years ago

hopefully he is better than your boy wilmer font. Just kidding:)

martyvan90Member since 2017
8 years ago

More than LOOGY? Yanks go get him!

London Yank
8 years ago

He needs to be in the majors. As soon as possible. Someone with Aroldis Chapman’s K rate and old man Sabathia’s fastball velocity needs to be seen.

zap_rowsdowerMember since 2017
8 years ago

What the hell ever happened to Juan De Leon?

kenster84
8 years ago
Reply to  zap_rowsdower

Do you mean Jose DeLeon? He had TJ surgery in March.

Bud SmithMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  zap_rowsdower

His bbref page has a bit more info, weirdly: https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=deleon001jua

My best guess here is visa problems of some sort.

formerly matt wMember since 2025
8 years ago
Reply to  Bud Smith

Yes–he was caught up in the same scheme as Alexi Ogando, in which Dominican minor leaguers agreed to fake marriages to get visas for women who were likely intended for human trafficking.
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/field-broken-dreams-yank-prospects-caught-marriage-for-visa-scheme-article-1.645698

/necropost

drewcorbMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  zap_rowsdower

He was injured in an ambush by members of the Calusa tribe in Florida and died of his wounds in Havana, Cuba.

diminishedsixthsense
8 years ago

jeff springs chuckles at poche’s 49.5% AAA K rate

rounders
8 years ago

Most enjoyable piece written this season. If he’d only added an r to his surname maybe talent evaluators would have noticed what he can do.

Ryan DCMember since 2016
8 years ago

Good lord those camera angles are physically painful. Why would they do that? Who could possibly think that’s a good idea??

Monsignor Martinez
8 years ago

But how does his glove play at 1B?

Jason ColletteMember since 2020
8 years ago

Saw him live in one of his first Triple-A outings. Oddly enough, the in-stadium camera angle is the one we all know and love. That angle gives you a greater understanding why his stuff plays up. His delivery plus great extension give him a better effective velocity and run on his fastball. I saw a ton of late swings on fastballs. I don’t recall any Charlotte hitter pulling a fastball that outing, or if they did, they were guessing heat and yanked it foul into the stands.

Jason ColletteMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  Jason Collette

some good video from catcher POV here — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF7lVe8w5GY

Johnston
8 years ago

The people I have known with the same last name pronounce it “Po-shay.” Hope that helps.

shaq_diesel
8 years ago
Reply to  Johnston

Fo sho.

tiger2112
8 years ago

Two other things that haven’t been mentioned. Poche isn’t a LOOGY. Neither side can hit him. This year: RHB .334 OPS and 52.6 K-BB%; LHB .435 OPS and 54.9 K-BB%. Also, Poche very likely has excellent control and command to go with the deception.

SucramRenrutMember since 2017
8 years ago

There must also be something related to his very slow delivery. The second fastball gif looks like it is in slow motion until the ball is released and everyone else starts moving regular speed. I would imagine it’s incredibly difficult to time that fastball due to that particular combination of slow delivery, deception, and elevated fastball.

Brownie19
8 years ago

He’s a big boy with a repeatable, smooth delivery. I’m surprised they don’t stretch him out to start.

TJ
8 years ago

I just watched him pitch in Norfolk. Made a point to stand behind home plate. The ball just flies out of his ear. You can hardly see it leave his hand. It’s really neat.

Kibber
8 years ago

Folks, probably a good time to start openly questioning these results
they simply don’t make sense, league wide, and I would suggest ‘something’ is up
start at Nikola Tesla vibration science and go from there
Namaste

websoulsurfer
8 years ago

An inconvenient truth. The most unhittable pitcher is not the one with the most swings and misses, its the one with the lowest BAA and Poche is not in the top 30 in that stat.

https://www.fangraphs.com/minorleaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2018&team=0&players=0&sort=11,a

So how about something based on logic? Can you redo your entire article and talk about who really is the most unhittable pitcher in the minors?

Jetsy Extrano
8 years ago
Reply to  websoulsurfer

Run off and do this with your no doubt many good friends who enjoy it.

websoulsurfer
8 years ago
Reply to  Jetsy Extrano

Pithy response. Too bad for you that it has nothing to do with my post.

BAA is batting average against. Preventing hits is what defines being unhittable, not swings and misses. So the pitcher with the lowest BAA is by definition the most unhittable and Poche is not in the top 30 in the minors.

He doesn’t even rank in the top 10 most unhittable in AAA. There are 9 pitchers in the PCL with a lower BAA. He is not even the most unhittable in just the International League. That would be Justin Miller with a .070 BAA vs Poche’s .163.

Facts suck don’t they?

bettingresource.com
8 years ago

Relax guys. He is ust an RP. If Romo gets traded he will have a chance to come up and maybe close for TB.