The National League Cy Young Race Is Too Close To Call
Last night, Trevor Bauer made a rather emphatic statement not only on behalf of his team, which is in the playoff hunt, but also for himself in the National League Cy Young race. Bauer pitched eight innings, striking out 12 against one walk and just a single run as the Reds moved above .500 to move into the eighth and final playoff spot heading into today’s action. Meanwhile, though it’s not yet clear if Jacob deGrom or Yu Darvish will get another outing to stake their claims, but Corbin Burnes pitches tonight against the Cardinals. Below you will find the NL WAR leaders among pitchers through last night’s contests:
| Name | IP | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | BABIP | ERA | FIP | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yu Darvish | 69 | 11.5 | 1.7 | 0.7 | .311 | 2.22 | 2.23 | 2.7 |
| Corbin Burnes | 56 | 13.3 | 3.5 | 0.2 | .268 | 1.77 | 1.79 | 2.6 |
| Jacob deGrom | 63 | 13.4 | 2.3 | 0.7 | .282 | 2.14 | 1.99 | 2.6 |
| Trevor Bauer | 73 | 12.3 | 2.1 | 1.1 | .215 | 1.73 | 2.87 | 2.5 |
| Dinelson Lamet | 65.1 | 12.3 | 2.6 | 0.7 | .243 | 2.07 | 2.51 | 2.3 |
| Luis Castillo | 66 | 11.6 | 3.3 | 0.7 | .321 | 2.86 | 2.73 | 2.2 |
| Kyle Hendricks | 81.1 | 7.1 | 0.9 | 1.1 | .272 | 2.88 | 3.54 | 2.0 |
| Germán Márquez | 74.2 | 8.0 | 2.9 | 0.7 | .306 | 4.10 | 3.42 | 2.0 |
| Aaron Nola | 67.2 | 12.0 | 2.7 | 1.2 | .264 | 3.06 | 3.23 | 1.9 |
| Zack Wheeler | 64 | 6.3 | 1.7 | 0.4 | .298 | 2.67 | 3.23 | 1.8 |
| Max Scherzer | 61.1 | 12.5 | 3.1 | 1.2 | .364 | 3.67 | 3.18 | 1.8 |
| Brandon Woodruff | 65.2 | 11.1 | 2.3 | 1.2 | .284 | 3.43 | 3.46 | 1.7 |
| Rick Porcello | 56 | 8.2 | 2.3 | 0.6 | .363 | 5.46 | 3.15 | 1.7 |
| Clayton Kershaw | 54.1 | 9.8 | 1.3 | 1.0 | .211 | 2.15 | 2.94 | 1.6 |
| Max Fried | 56 | 8.0 | 3.1 | 0.3 | .268 | 2.25 | 3.09 | 1.6 |
| Sonny Gray | 50.2 | 12.1 | 3.9 | 0.7 | .305 | 3.73 | 2.95 | 1.6 |
| Tony Gonsolin | 40.2 | 8.9 | 1.6 | 0.4 | .225 | 1.77 | 2.44 | 1.5 |
| Zach Eflin | 56.1 | 11.2 | 2.2 | 1.3 | .354 | 4.15 | 3.29 | 1.5 |
Bauer pitched a great game, but his WAR still lags a bit behind that of Darvish, deGrom, and Burnes. While all the pitchers above, as well as reliever Devin Williams, have had very good seasons, to try to reduce this down to the players who might be placed on the ballot, we’ll work with the top 12 pitchers on the list above. Apologies to Clayton Kershaw and Max Fried, who haven’t quite pitched enough innings at a high enough level to be included below. When looking at those top 12 pitchers, here’s how they situate themselves in a few important stats:
| Name | IP | K% | BB% | ERA | ERA- | FIP | FIP- | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yu Darvish | 69 | 32% | 5% | 2.22 | 50 | 2.23 | 50 | 2.7 |
| Corbin Burnes | 56 | 38% | 10% | 1.77 | 39 | 1.79 | 40 | 2.6 |
| Jacob deGrom | 63 | 38% | 7% | 2.14 | 51 | 1.99 | 46 | 2.6 |
| Trevor Bauer | 73 | 36% | 6% | 1.73 | 38 | 2.87 | 63 | 2.5 |
| Dinelson Lamet | 65.1 | 35% | 8% | 2.07 | 47 | 2.51 | 57 | 2.3 |
| Luis Castillo | 66 | 31% | 9% | 2.86 | 62 | 2.73 | 60 | 2.2 |
| Kyle Hendricks | 81.1 | 20% | 3% | 2.88 | 64 | 3.54 | 79 | 2.0 |
| Germán Márquez | 74.2 | 21% | 8% | 4.10 | 80 | 3.42 | 72 | 2.0 |
| Aaron Nola | 67.2 | 34% | 7% | 3.06 | 68 | 3.23 | 71 | 1.9 |
| Zack Wheeler | 64 | 18% | 5% | 2.67 | 59 | 3.23 | 71 | 1.8 |
| Max Scherzer | 61.1 | 32% | 8% | 3.67 | 80 | 3.18 | 70 | 1.8 |
| Brandon Woodruff | 65.2 | 31% | 6% | 3.43 | 76 | 3.46 | 77 | 1.7 |
FanGraphs’ WAR is not the only WAR metric out there. As I’ve said before in reference to both this year and last year’s AL Cy Young race:
In many ways, the versions of WAR are all trying to do the same thing, which is to credit a pitcher for certain outcomes based on the pitcher’s work. This isn’t new. It’s why earned run average tries to strip away the unearned runs. ERA, Baseball-Reference’s WAR and RA/9 WAR both look at the number of runs and then work backwards to try to arrive at a deserved result. FIP-based WAR looks at the outcomes most controlled by the pitcher (walks and strikeouts) and then adds or subtracts credit for some batted balls via the home run and infield flies, and gives credit for all outs made. Baseball Prospectus looks at the most likely outcomes given the circumstances and assigns a value.
The table below shows how the candidates rank in the various metrics here, as well as at Baseball Prospectus and Baseball-Reference.
| Name | WAR | RA9-WAR | B-Ref | BPro | wAVG |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Trevor Bauer | 2.5 | 3.6 | 2.8 | 2.2 | 2.6 |
| Jacob deGrom | 2.6 | 2.4 | 2.5 | 2.2 | 2.4 |
| Yu Darvish | 2.7 | 3 | 2.3 | 1.8 | 2.4 |
| Corbin Burnes | 2.6 | 2.7 | 2.2 | 1.9 | 2.3 |
| Dinelson Lamet | 2.3 | 2.9 | 2.3 | 1.8 | 2.2 |
| Aaron Nola | 1.9 | 1.8 | 2.4 | 2.4 | 2.1 |
| Kyle Hendricks | 2.0 | 3 | 2.0 | 1.3 | 1.9 |
| Zack Wheeler | 1.8 | 2.2 | 2.9 | 1.4 | 1.9 |
| Luis Castillo | 2.2 | 1.8 | 1.1 | 1.8 | 1.8 |
| Germán Márquez | 2.0 | 1.7 | 1.4 | 1.5 | 1.7 |
| Brandon Woodruff | 1.7 | 1.9 | 1.5 | 1.5 | 1.6 |
| Max Scherzer | 1.8 | 1.5 | 2.1 | 1.3 | 1.6 |
When we average WAR, Bauer takes the lead over the rest of the group. It looks like RA9-WAR is doing a ton of the work for Bauer, and it’s fair to wonder what’s going on. There was a question in the comments of yesterday’s piece about the difference between RA9-WAR and B-Ref’s version, and Bauer provides a good opportunity to highlight those differences. The biggest factors at play are that B-Ref’s WAR considers overall team defense for individual pitchers as well as factoring in opponent, while RA9-WAR leaves those out. While in many years a team’s defense might be the more meaningful difference between the two, this unusually short season means that opponent is having a larger effect.
This year Bauer has faced the Brewers (who have a team wRC+ of 90) three times, the Tigers (91 wRC+), Pirates (68 wRC+), and Cubs (91 wRC+) twice apiece, as well as the Royals (92 wRC+) and White Sox (116 wRC+) once each. With the exception of a solid White Sox offense, every lineup Bauer faced was in the bottom third in offense this season, which drives the gap between his RA9-WAR and B-Ref. In most seasons there isn’t going to be a huge divide between most pitchers, but this year’s gap is pronounced, and it also affects Darvish, Burnes, Kyle Hendricks, and Dinelson Lamet somewhat. That, along with defense, helps explain why Zack Wheeler fares so well at Baseball-Reference. Bauer didn’t get to pick his opponents, but if you want to consider them in your analysis, Bauer is hurt somewhat.
We also have the advantage of looking at Statcast metrics like xwOBA, which functions similarly to FIP but uses expected results on contact based on launch angle and exit velocity instead of homers. And if we were to translate to WAR, FIP-based WAR adds in pop-ups in addition to factoring for ballparks, while xwOBA should be ballpark agnostic to begin with. Here’s the xwOBA leaders along with wOBA and the difference so far this season:
| Name | wOBA | xwOBA | wOBA-xWOBA |
|---|---|---|---|
| Trevor Bauer | .223 | .235 | -.012 |
| Jacob deGrom | .232 | .256 | -.024 |
| Luis Castillo | .279 | .280 | -.001 |
| Corbin Burnes | .221 | .281 | -.060 |
| Dinelson Lamet | .226 | .281 | -.055 |
| Yu Darvish | .255 | .285 | -.030 |
| Kyle Hendricks | .265 | .286 | -.021 |
| Brandon Woodruff | .277 | .286 | -.009 |
| Aaron Nola | .260 | .288 | -.028 |
| Zack Wheeler | .284 | .307 | -.023 |
| Max Scherzer | .311 | .311 | .000 |
| Germán Márquez | .297 | .334 | -.037 |
The average xwOBA this year is .333, so every pitcher here is pretty clearly above average except for Germán Márquez. Bauer paces the group by a healthy margin, with deGrom a clear second; there is then another gap before a big group in the .280-to-.290 range. One thing to keep in mind is that the average wOBA-xwOBA this season is about negative 20 points because the inputs are based on historical precedent, so something like a juiced ball could have bumped up the expected numbers quite a bit. Given that we are dealing with just one season, looking at the players relative to the average and each other can still provide useful context. Bauer, deGrom, Darvish, Hendricks, Woodruff, Nola, and Wheeler are all relatively close to average when it comes to expectations versus results. It looks like Luis Castillo and Max Scherzer have had a bit of bad fortune, which is likely a combination of park or defense and some luck. Burnes, Lamet, and Márquez have all done better to some degree than the expectations from their contact.
If were to turn the xwOBA figures into WAR and add them to the prior WAR table, it would look like this:
| Name | WAR | RA9-WAR | B-Ref | BPro | xWAR | wAVG |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Trevor Bauer | 2.5 | 3.6 | 2.8 | 2.2 | 3.4 | 2.8 |
| Jacob deGrom | 2.6 | 2.4 | 2.5 | 2.2 | 2.5 | 2.4 |
| Yu Darvish | 2.7 | 3.0 | 2.3 | 1.8 | 2.2 | 2.3 |
| Dinelson Lamet | 2.3 | 2.9 | 2.3 | 1.8 | 2.1 | 2.2 |
| Corbin Burnes | 2.6 | 2.7 | 2.2 | 1.9 | 1.8 | 2.2 |
| Aaron Nola | 1.9 | 1.8 | 2.4 | 2.4 | 2.0 | 2.1 |
| Kyle Hendricks | 2.0 | 3.0 | 2.0 | 1.3 | 2.5 | 2.1 |
| Luis Castillo | 2.2 | 1.8 | 1.1 | 1.8 | 2.2 | 1.9 |
| Zack Wheeler | 1.8 | 2.2 | 2.9 | 1.4 | 1.6 | 1.8 |
| Brandon Woodruff | 1.7 | 1.9 | 1.5 | 1.5 | 2.1 | 1.7 |
| Max Scherzer | 1.8 | 1.5 | 2.1 | 1.3 | 1.4 | 1.6 |
| Germán Márquez | 2.0 | 1.7 | 1.4 | 1.5 | 1.1 | 1.5 |
When combining all WAR, Bauer has a pretty cleat edge. deGrom is currently listed as the Mets’ Saturday starter, so he might not be done yet. While we might hesitate to overstate a single start, remember that Bauer’s outing last night represented 11% of his entire season in innings. One strong start in this shortened season is the equivalent of three in a normal year. Burnes doesn’t come out well in xwOBA because he is somewhat similar to his peers, but he also has an innings deficit, one he will try to close somewhat tonight.
Bauer raised his wAVG above by nearly 0.5 in one start. If things stay pretty much where they are and we don’t factor in opponent, he is the pretty clear favorite. If deGrom, Burnes, or Darvish put together one more great start, they are going to end up pretty close to Bauer.
The question then becomes how much a voter might discount Bauer’s numbers due to a weaker schedule. Darvish and Burnes have had only slightly tougher opponents, while deGrom’s four starts against the Marlins (97 wRC+) represented his weakest challenges this season. In most seasons, the schedule is going to even out or at least be close over 30-plus starts. That’s not the case this year, and it’s unclear precisely how much that should be a factor for Cy Young voters. It is tough to find separation, and the short schedule makes these choices even tougher.
As I did with the AL Cy Young candidates, here’s the xwOBA-based WAR for all NL pitchers with at least 150 plate appearances against this season:
| Name | Team | WAR | woba | xwoba | xWAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Trevor Bauer | Reds | 2.5 | .223 | .235 | 3.4 |
| Jacob deGrom | Mets | 2.6 | .232 | .256 | 2.5 |
| Kyle Hendricks | Cubs | 2.0 | .265 | .286 | 2.5 |
| Luis Castillo | Reds | 2.2 | .279 | .280 | 2.2 |
| Yu Darvish | Cubs | 2.7 | .255 | .285 | 2.2 |
| Dinelson Lamet | Padres | 2.3 | .226 | .281 | 2.1 |
| Brandon Woodruff | Brewers | 1.7 | .277 | .286 | 2.1 |
| Aaron Nola | Phillies | 1.9 | .260 | .288 | 2.0 |
| Max Fried | Braves | 1.6 | .272 | .273 | 2.0 |
| Clayton Kershaw | Dodgers | 1.6 | .222 | .271 | 1.9 |
| Corbin Burnes | Brewers | 2.6 | .221 | .281 | 1.8 |
| Zach Eflin | Phillies | 1.5 | .323 | .290 | 1.7 |
| Zac Gallen | D-backs | 1.3 | .273 | .305 | 1.7 |
| Zack Wheeler | Phillies | 1.8 | .284 | .307 | 1.6 |
| Julio Urías | Dodgers | 1.2 | .265 | .296 | 1.5 |
| Pablo López | Marlins | 1.4 | .281 | .295 | 1.5 |
| Max Scherzer | Nationals | 1.8 | .311 | .311 | 1.4 |
| Tyler Mahle | Reds | 1.0 | .281 | .286 | 1.4 |
| Sixto Sánchez | Marlins | 0.9 | .280 | .283 | 1.3 |
| Kevin Gausman | Giants | 1.2 | .280 | .309 | 1.2 |
| Sonny Gray | Reds | 1.6 | .275 | .309 | 1.2 |
| Tony Gonsolin | Dodgers | 1.5 | .211 | .292 | 1.1 |
| Germán Márquez | Rockies | 2.0 | .297 | .334 | 1.1 |
| Adam Wainwright | Cardinals | 1.2 | .261 | .322 | 1.1 |
| Josh Lindblom | Brewers | 0.8 | .306 | .304 | 1.1 |
| Antonio Senzatela | Rockies | 1.2 | .289 | .340 | 0.9 |
| Dakota Hudson | Cardinals | 0.4 | .253 | .317 | 0.8 |
| Tyler Anderson | Giants | 0.7 | .319 | .336 | 0.8 |
| JT Brubaker | Pirates | 0.9 | .303 | .328 | 0.7 |
| Kyle Freeland | Rockies | 1.1 | .313 | .348 | 0.7 |
| Steven Brault | Pirates | 0.8 | .268 | .331 | 0.7 |
| Johnny Cueto | Giants | 0.5 | .326 | .343 | 0.7 |
| Adrian Houser | Brewers | 0.5 | .349 | .342 | 0.7 |
| Dustin May | Dodgers | 0.3 | .281 | .344 | 0.6 |
| Alec Mills | Cubs | 0.5 | .289 | .348 | 0.6 |
| Luke Weaver | D-backs | 0.4 | .361 | .340 | 0.6 |
| David Peterson | Mets | 0.3 | .298 | .340 | 0.6 |
| Garrett Richards | Padres | 0.7 | .313 | .346 | 0.6 |
| Trevor Williams | Pirates | -0.4 | .376 | .349 | 0.5 |
| Brett Anderson | Brewers | 0.6 | .322 | .347 | 0.5 |
| Chris Paddack | Padres | 0.7 | .313 | .354 | 0.5 |
| Taylor Clarke | D-backs | -0.1 | .295 | .344 | 0.5 |
| Zach Davies | Padres | 1.2 | .272 | .361 | 0.4 |
| Michael Wacha | Mets | 0.1 | .391 | .344 | 0.4 |
| Josh Tomlin | Braves | 0.6 | .306 | .350 | 0.4 |
| Rick Porcello | Mets | 1.7 | .324 | .361 | 0.3 |
| Patrick Corbin | Nationals | 1.1 | .348 | .362 | 0.3 |
| Logan Webb | Giants | 0.7 | .344 | .366 | 0.2 |
| Austin Voth | Nationals | -0.2 | .367 | .365 | 0.2 |
| Aníbal Sánchez | Nationals | 0.1 | .388 | .367 | 0.1 |
| Erick Fedde | Nationals | -0.3 | .323 | .371 | 0.1 |
| Jake Arrieta | Phillies | 0.6 | .346 | .378 | 0.0 |
| Jon Lester | Cubs | 0.4 | .320 | .379 | 0.0 |
| Alex Young | D-backs | -0.1 | .355 | .383 | -0.1 |
| Jon Gray | Rockies | 0.4 | .341 | .386 | -0.1 |
| Derek Holland | Pirates | -0.3 | .363 | .394 | -0.3 |
| Chad Kuhl | Pirates | -0.1 | .335 | .398 | -0.3 |
| Robbie Ray | D-backs | -0.5 | .400 | .397 | -0.3 |
| Ryan Castellani | Rockies | -0.6 | .368 | .409 | -0.5 |
| Ross Stripling | Dodgers | -0.5 | .382 | .423 | -0.6 |
| Madison Bumgarner | D-backs | -0.7 | .403 | .436 | -0.9 |
Craig Edwards can be found on twitter @craigjedwards.
Trevor Bauer will win it easily.
Jacob deGrom says hi.
Whether he deserves it or not, there is no way DeGrom wins this year. The voters (in all sports) like variety in their award winners. It’s why Trout doesn’t have 5 MVPs and why LeBron doesn’t have 8.
The only way DeGrom wins a third in a row is if he is far and away the best pitcher this year, which he isn’t. If he’s the best, it’s by a hair.
He will give Bauer a run for his money is all I meant. He’s not the clear candidate. No one is.
Talk about a hot take…
Sadly, I agree even though I’m a Mets fan. Individually, deGrom is always in the conversation about best pitcher in MLB period. When he has been on this year, it’s crazy – 12 Ks in one game and 14 Ks each in two other games. I mean, come on.
But he has been harmed by the Mets’ poor run support and general game-losing performance behind him. Also, deGrom had a couple of uncharacteristic rough spots of his own this season, which may cost him the Cy Young this year.
“The only way DeGrom wins a third in a row is if he is far and away the best pitcher this year, which he isn’t. If he’s the best, it’s by a hair.”
By a hair! I miss shaggy deGrom. That had to cost him a couple of WAR tenths, a la Sampson in biblical times…
Jake is the man I would want to pitch the game if my life depended on it but he is a gnat’s eyelash short of Bauer this year.
That’s not the award. The award is who is the top pitcher for 2020 only.
Being that his last start was on 3 days rest, I don’t think it’s unrealistic to think he gets one more start Sunday. He has been pushing for 3 days rest all season, and not only did he go 8ip his stuff actually was slightly better than it had been previously according to most metrics. I bet he wins it, and could be essentially lock it up if he goes in 3 days rest again and throws well in a crucial game.
The Reds have already stated that he’s scheduled to start again Sunday.
Did not know it was confirmed. But I’m glad to hear it. I think it’s possible he gets bumped if spot is secure, but it’s looking likely it comes down to last day.
Cincy could clinch tomorrow-
They win
Milwaukee loses tonight(losing 4-1 in 7th) and then 1 of 2 tomorrow, and SF gets swept by SD.
Very possibly they don’t need Bauer on Sunday.
And if he gets blown up in a final start on Sunday..?
Then he probably doesn’t win.
Reds also have Sonny Gray on normal rest Sunday
Man that defensive adjustment bWAR is making for the Phillies is crazy. UZR doesn’t even think the Phillies are even in the bottom four in MLB. Meanwhile, it thinks the Reds and Brewers have a good defense, which pretty clearly is not true (I don’t think they’re terrible, but they’re not in the top third of the league for sure). I’m not even sure I buy that the Cubs defense is that good…they’re one the best in the league, but enough to knock Darvish down from #2 in RA9-WAR to #6 in bREF…that’s one hell of a defense, but I can’t believe it. Javier Baez only plays one position at a time.
Well, like Craig points out, some of the bWAR adjustment is from strength of opponent. Presumably the Phillies, playing the Easts, overall have had a difficult schedule. Though, yeah, Zach Wheeler is not THAT good, so… Probably the opposite holds true for Darvish (maybe getting lucky w/ starts against the Tigers and/or Royals?). Personally I’m not putting much weight at all in bWAR for this season, short of maybe just some mental adjustments/considerations for strength of opponent.
I would be interested in seeing how much of this is coming from the defensive adjustment and how much from strength of schedule. In a normal year, it’s virtually all defensive adjustment. This year…who knows.
Easy enough to take a look at. Here are the opponents’ runs/9 innings via BR.
Bauer: 4.22
deGrom: 5.12
Darvish: 4.44
Lamet: 4.75
Burnes: 4.30
Nola: 5.21
Hendricks: 4.40
Wheeler: 5:17
So a difference of nearly a full run from top to bottom.
Wait, is that just RA9? Or is that after some adjustments are made to SOS, defensive adjustments, or both? Because I would be interested in seeing SOS and defensive adjustments broken out separately.
It’s just opponents’ RA/9 adjusted for park factors. They also mention that they exclude interleague road games and for interleague home games they adjust by .20 runs depending on whether or not the DH is used. I assume they’re not doing the latter this year but no idea if they’re doing the former (excluding interleague road games).
These are the defensive adjustments in runs/9, with negative numbers meaning below-average defense. There are adjustments made based on balls in play which is why Wheeler’s number is more negative than Nola’s. They also use the average team defense for the whole year, not the specific defense that was behind a particular pitcher.
Bauer: 0.20
deGrom: -,023
Darvish: 0.30
Lamet: 0.12
Burnes: -0.07
Nola: -0.44
Hendricks: 0.36
Wheeler: -0.57
Here’s a few more RA9opp:
Fried: 5.24
Kershaw: 4.81
Castillo: 4.20
Sánchez: 5.32 (!)
Woodruff: 4.38
Overall, you’ve got more heavy hitters in the NL and AL East.
RA9opp is adjusted for park factors, so it’s not just small ballparks. Wheeler, Nola, Fried, and deGrom are all facing tougher hitters overall than the pitchers in the NL Central. To a lesser degree, so are Kershaw and Lamet over in the NL West.
Thanks–the strength of schedule thing seems really important here. Based on this, I think that the only credible contender aside from Bauer (who I think the article makes a decent case for) is deGrom, just based on the fact that he’s faced much better hitters than anyone in the NL Central.
Not sure why strength of schedule even comes into consideration here. They are all professionals they are playing against.
Some professional hitters are better than others.
OPS+ by division
AL East: 109
AL Central: 97.8
AL West: 93.4
NL East: 109
NL Central: 85.8
NL West: 103.8
The Pirates team OPS+ is 72. The Rangers team OPS+ is 73. Both are historically bad. The last team with an OPS+ that low was the 2013 Miami Marlins at 73. Before that, it was the 1993 Miami Marlins with a team OPS+ at 74. The next closest after that was the 1986 St. Louis Cardinals with a team OPS+ at 76.
With a regular length season, this would mostly average out in the end, but since teams are only playing within their own division and interleague counterpart, it has a larger effect. The swing from the NL East to the NL Central are team offenses that are 23% better. The only above average offense that Trevor Bauer faced was the Chicago White Sox. The only above average offenses that Yu Darvish faced were the White Sox and Twins. In contrast, the only below average offense that Max Fried faced was Miami in two games. The only below average offense that Jacob deGrom faced was Miami, four times in a row. When performances are this close, I think it is fair to look at the strength of the competition.
I’ll also just add that because of the shortened season, it is an outlier in terms of the variance in RA9opp.
2019 RA9opp Starter (min 162 IP) 4.82 ± 0.11 (range: 4.55 – 5.09).
2019 RA9opp Starter (min 45 IP) 4.79 ± 0.39 (range: 4.07 – 5.49).
We all know that some are better than others, that doesn’t really matter. Regardless of who you face, the results are what matters. Whether you face Joe Blow or Hank Aaron you don’t get more credit for getting Aaron out than Blow, they both count as an out. If you are trying to analyze talent of the pitcher, that is different. For awards, it is actual results that matter. GMs need to know the talent details for roster creation purposes, but irrelevant to awards.
Also, I have to be honest, I kind of want to see where Devin Williams winds up on the xWAR table. He is probably last in all those categories but with an 18 K per 9 / 58.1% ground ball rate / 83.5 average exit velocity he might have some wacky numbers.
1.6
Take that, Max Scherzer!
This list makes a pretty good case for FanGraphs WAR over the others (but mostly B-Ref). Zach Wheeler is having a very good season, but I mean, come on… He’s clearly hasn’t been the best pitcher in the NL! Darvish and DeGrom probably top my list for now (though I’ll admit to being swayed by just how fun they are to watch), but one more start for Burnes at this level, giving him over 60 elite innings pitched, may put him on top – that FIP is never not shocking to look at.
Fangraphs’s Pitcher WAR will always be a joke as long as they insist on basing it on FIP. It’s a very good predicting metric but rather mediocre for analyzing what has already occurred, which is what you need to do both for establishing WAR and determining Cy Young winners.
Yes, because any metric that has Rick Porcello & his 5+ ERA over Clayton Kershaw & his 2.15 ERA is infallible. They even have similar innings pitched.
Yep. The Porcello/Kershaw comparison you mentioned makes it virtually impossible to take fWAR for pitchers seriously, because what actually happened on the field doesn’t necessarily matter a whole lot, which defeats the whole purpose of using it to determine value for award voting.
Hey I agree w not using bref for WAR, but it is funny that you include them in the table of 12 pitchers but then somehow decide to exclude their WAR leader who will certainly get some votes.
Fried gave up two dingers in one inning of work before leaving for precautionary reasons, and he really needed something like a Shutout to put himself really in the conversation.
I think leading in bWAR will convince a few voters to give him down ballot love, but his ERA is his only real good factor among what voters seem to care about and there are still a few better than him in that regard.
It is pretty amazing that he pitched 55 2/3 innings giving up zero Home runs. I’m just glad that he got that regression out of the way before the playoffs start.
Also, his overall mark without a homer was 72 innings and the last one he gave up was an ITPH to Scott Kingery in 2019.
Fried is still tied for the NL lead with a 7-0 win-loss record. Some voters still seem to care about that, for some reason.
Love the xWAR thing. Great article
Rick Porcello being top 12 in WAR threw me for a loop
He’s having a career-best year by FIP, but…..that’s mostly driven by (1) a super-low FIP with no runners on and (2) a lot of barreled balls that don’t leave the yard (ie. he’s deserved his high BABIP and mediocre xFIP). I think his 0.3 xWAR is a pretty good summary of his pitching this year.
I wrote this yesterday, I think, but the discrepancy here is so huge it is probably just not one thing. One is that he has defensive butchers behind him. Another is that he’s been weirdly lucky on home runs because he’s getting slammed on balls in play. And the third is that there hasn’t been enough time in the season for these things to converge. Maybe he deserves a little more than 0.3 xWAR but if so, it’s not that much.
The color coding for RA9-WAR in the “NL Cy Young Candidates: WARs” table seems to be off – the two 3-WAR pitchers are not highlighted. The “NL Cy Young Candidates: More WARs” table is correct though.
Fixed. Thanks.
The color code itself is one of the least legible/intuitive I’ve ever read. It’s a ranking, why not use something approximating a gradient?
Going into last night I had it Darvish and then Hendricks, 3rd was a toss up. That game last night definitely vaults Bauer into the top 3. Could be second, but still see Darvish as the leader.
After looking at Hendricks start from last night he definitely falls some. So its a two man race between Darvish and Bauer. If Darvish pitches well in his last start, he should take it.
It’s Bauer and it won’t be remotely close. In the Tango Tracker, he’s got a wide lead over Darvish right now. And huge danger for Darvish next start vs White Sox.. deGrom, Lemet, and Burnes considerably behind. Bauer’s September just too much.
1. deGrom
2. Darvish
3. Castillo
4. Bauer
5. Lamet
my top 5. don’t see why Bauer should win this easily.
What statistical case can possibly be made to put Castillo in the top 5 let alone at #3 over Bauer and Lamet?
I could see him over Lamet since he’s comparable to him in a lot of the stats, but it seems impossible to come with a reason to have him over Bauer.
I’m probably faulting him too much for having an unrepeatable strand rate.
The strand rate and low BABIP are fair points. Definitely brings up the argument of how to weight actual outcomes versus stripping out things the pitcher can’t control such as defense and luck. In Bauer’s case, that he has such a strong strand rate in front of a below average defense says it’s probably more luck driven, which kind of makes it more impressive to me. Bieber actually has a slightly better strand rate in front of a top 5 defense (he’s definitely still deserving of AL CY).
It’s really splitting hairs at this point and as of today I’d probably go:
1. Darvish
2. Bauer
3. Degrom
4. Burnes
5. Lamet
I think the actual voting will be fairly narrative driven and I’m okay with that when the stats don’t give a clear answer.
If Bauer takes the ball on short rest again to end the year, has a good to great start (reaching or topping 80 IP), and the Reds make the playoffs, he probably wins.
Darvish has proved out his turnaround this year and is leading a Cubs – team that has seen its best players struggle on offense – to a division title.
Degrom going for his 3rd straight CY is somehow the least compelling to me mostly because the Mets haven’t been good and he’s likely to end with the fewest IPs of the 3, but could still win and I wouldn’t blink.
Castillo is 5th in FIP among pitchers with 50+ IP, 11th in ERA in front of an underwhelming Reds D, in a decent hitter’s environment, 4th in xFIP, 6th in WAR, 9th in K/9, 7th in HR/9, and also leads the NL in GB%. He also ranks in the 88th percentile in Exit Velocity allowed, 88th percentile in xERA, 86th percentile in xwOBA, xSLG, and Whiff%. What do you have against Castillo?
FIP and xFIP are mediocre metrics for analyzing past performance, and GB% is the only other stat you listed that places him among the Top 5.
In this shortened season, innings becomes one of the biggest factors. With so many pitchers barely able to go 4 innings in many starts, logging the innings while pitching well plays a bigger role this year. Degrom, Castillo, Lamet are way down the leader board. That hurts them significantly.
I would not be surprised if deGrom gets it simply because in a short season, voters might be risk averse to giving it to someone new.
I’m leaning a bit toward Bauer if the season ended today, but if someone else goes out there and has a 10 K 1 BB over 7 innings of shutout ball I think they will probably pull ahead. Burnes is starting tonight, we’ll have a sense if he does enough to pass Bauer. Darvish goes tomorrow, deGrom pitches on Saturday–at least according to the schedule. This is close enough and the sample size is small enough that a lot could happen in the last start.
Degrom already has 2 that he shouldn’t have, don’t need to make it 3. (yay for unpopular opinions)
I legitimately wonder sometimes why you come here. Do you actually find the articles interesting? I mean, everyone should read Fangraphs and subscribe so I don’t have a problem but I just am curious.
Yes, I like reading articles and researching players. I just prefer more traditional stats and analysis. As for the Cy Young, I go by the Greg Maddux rule. As a Braves fan I believe he is the best pitcher I have ever watched, one of the best all time. He epitomized a cy young winner to me. Low ERA, low WHIP, high innings, and always winning 15 games or more. Did that 15 years in a row actually. So that became a requirement for a starting pitcher to get the award for me. I tend to care more about actual results on the baseball field. People here tend to focus more on how they get the results and expected results. To me, it doesn’t matter how, just get the results.
Who is your CY winner out of these 4 guys?
Player A: 204 IP – 2.43 ERA – 0.97 WHIP – 11 Wins
Player B: 172.1 IP – 2.92 ERA – 1.04 WHIP – 11 Wins
Player C: 209 IP – 3.32 ERA – 1.04 WHIP – 18 Wins
Player D: 182.2 IP – 2.32 ERA – 1.01 WHIP – 14 Wins
So if your ‘Maddux’ doesn’t exist how do you vote?
My hunch (and I could be wrong) is you choose Player C based on how many ‘Wins’ he earned for his team combined with the volume of innings, while having relatively good showings in ERA and WHIP.
The counter argument is you are overvaluing a stat that is probably telling you just as much about the day the offense had as how the pitcher did. Even though he doesn’t have the ‘Wins’ to show for it, Player A gives you the best chance to win any given game with similar volume.
Gun to my head and I have to pick between Wins and ERA (in a similar number of innings) to determine who was more valuable, I’m taking the guy with the substantially lower ERA over the guy with substantially more wins every time.
I’m sure this isn’t going to change your mind, but I just wanted to point out it’s not just about ‘advanced’ stats and what a player ‘should have done.’ It’s being able to determine what any given stat is telling you and how valuable that stat is relative to another stat.
(The example is 4 of last year’s NL CY candidates, I think the names become relatively obvious).
All of those stats are important, if that is all I have to go on then yes I take player C. Player C’s whip and era are still solid, not other worldly, but good enough for cy young consideration. When you start getting an era over 3.5 that can significantly hurt your case as a pitcher, but I don’t eliminate someone from consideration as long as they are under 4.
When taking all of the data into consideration player C may not be the best pitcher, or the one who exhibited the most talent that season, but results matter. Personally, I’d rather not pick between wins or era, I have thresholds for both, as long as they meet both criteria, then you look at the other stats to help make your decision.
Maddux was a favorite of mine as well, but I echo the above in thinking that deGrom has merited Cy Young consideration despite lacking 15 wins in those years. For instance, the Mets scored an average of just 3.5 runs during deGrom’s games in 2018, giving him less run support than any of Maddux’s teams gave him in his 23-year career.
And most pitchers have pretty bad numbers in games that they lose (even an all-time great like Maddux totaled a 5.66 ERA and 1.51 WHIP in his career losses). In deGrom’s 9 losses in 2018, he totaled a 2.71 ERA and 1.00 WHIP, with a quality start in every single loss (9/9!). A remarkable season in my opinion, even if his W-L record was just 10-9.
Maddux was great, but a product of his time as well. He made a living off if getting balls called strikes which simply wouldn’t happen (to that extent today).
He made a living with pinpoint control. If he wanted a particular batter to ground out to his short stop, he threw a pitch that would get him to do just that. He wasn’t trying to strike everyone out. A 1 pitch groundout was better than a 5 pitch strikeout, easier to go deep into the game that way. I remember Maddux saying that his goal was 12 pitches or less per inning. Just smart baseball.
I disagree with you. I think the voters would be more risk averse to giving the award to a guy who would be historical which is what deGrom would be.
In this short/long season there are single games which define who should win the award more than in a normal season and Trevor Bauer did that last night. His long/short season numbers are excellent. Hey, it is tough to win when only one player on the starting nine is hitting above .234, but last night was that exclamation point that sets him apart. In this era in which prima donnas go 5 or 6 on full or, even, extended rest he asked for the ball and went out and threw 8 of the best innings of the year on short rest then said, almost demanded, that he get the ball on Sunday.
So FIP (therefore fWAR that it is based on) is very sensitive to home runs, and
FIP= [13*HR + 3*(BB+HBP) – 2*K] divided by IP
designed to try and isolate “true outcomes” in which hits were discounted and home runs were looked at as the absolute worst case scenario. And Bauer has given up his share of those. 65% of his earned runs (not counting anyone who may have been on base) were given up that way. But the rest of his numbers don’t say he was pitching like pig slop. In fact they say the exact opposite.
As pitchers evolve, and thus their in game attach approach, what has become more obvious about FIP/fWAR is the gaping whole that was created.
Probability outcomes are now at the forefront of advanced scouting reports and take into account hitter and pitcher misses. So when a pitcher chooses his plan of attack, therefore his pitch selection, it is no longer dominated by avoiding the big fly at all cost. Because with the chance of a big fly the probability of a much better outcome also exists in many cases.
So pitchers on the leading edge are much more likely to give up a big fly but nothing else. Because the probability of stringing together hits may be minimized by taking the chance on a solo bomb. In doing so they play with fire more often, and they will get burned. But the “holy grail” of FIP/fWAR outsizes the penalty for them even if all the other numbers don’t paint the same story. Because the whole, isn’t necessarily the sum of the parts, when you discount other factors like FIP does.
Bauer should be the CY winner as his FIP and fWar (the ones that are most looked at and easiest for voters to comprehend) are dinged by the outsized influence of the HR or he would look like the guy that had pulled away from the pack already.
ERA for the awards voters maters a lot- and Bauer has a huge lead there- 1.73 to 2.07 for Lamet.
Too bad for Burnes. He had a mediocre game tonight and left with an injury, to boot.
Yeah I think he’s out. It shouldn’t be that surprising, I guess–that home run rate was, and still is, completely unsustainable.
“Apologies to Clayton Kershaw and Max Fried, who haven’t quite pitched enough innings at a high enough level to be included below.”
Fried pitched the same number of innings as Burnes, and Kershaw trails them by one and two-thirds innings (and Kershaw will be making another start tomorrow). By leaving out Kershaw and Fried, you’re leaving out the third and fourth pitchers in xwOBA. Fried would be 6th in RA9-WAR at 2.5, 1st (tied) in B-Ref at 2.9, 8th (tied) in BPro at 1.5, and 8th in wAVG at 2.0. Kershaw would be 7th in RA9-WAR at 2.3, 10th in B-Ref at 1.9, 8th (tied) in BPro at 1.5, and 9th (tied) in wAVG at 1.8.
Moreover, part of the reason why Fried has pitched fewer innings is because Atlanta hasn’t needed him to. Atlanta has a bullpen that’s a full run better in ERA and FIP and is worth 2 WAR more than Cincinnati’s bullpen. Atlanta has given Fried at least 5 runs of support in 7 of his 11 starts. Fried has left a game while Atlanta has been behind only twice this year, during his first start and during his last start where he turned his ankle and left after the first inning. He’s earned all of his seven wins.
Pitching is about more than just striking out batters, not giving away walks, and not allowing home runs. This is one of the limits of relying on FIP-based WAR, since pitchers do have some influence on quality of contact. Fried’s homerless stretch becomes easy to understand when you see that his average exit velocity allowed was only 83.4 mph with a launch angle of 6.4, while his average FB/LD exit velocity was just 88.3 mph. Among qualified pitchers this year, the average exit velocity allowed was 88.3 mph, and the average FB/LD exit velocity was 92.6 mph. Fried has been outstanding at getting batters to make soft contact this season.
That’s why Fried has allowed 3 runs just once this season, during the start before he was put on the IL. He’s allowed 2 runs in 3 of his starts, 1 run in 5 starts, and 0 runs twice. He’s still my favorite for the NL Cy Young award right now.
My biggest issue with Bauer for Cy Young is that he earned 4 Losses, and he really did lose those games for his team. He allowed 4 runs in two games, and had two other games where the Reds were shutout and Bauer gave up two no-doubt home runs in each of them.
Burnes gave up three runs in 3.2 innings tonight, so that leaves Darvish and Degrom. Darvish has lost 2 of his last 3 starts. DeGrom has been DeGOAT as usual, and a 4 run game is his only ugly Mets loss.
In my mind, it’s still Fried. But DeGrom is still scheduled for another start, so it’ll probably him. Though Kershaw or Darvish or even Bauer could still convince me with a strong enough final start.
Are there any metrics that show consistency?
Since the scoreboard resets every game, I’m not seeing why you would only want to look at WAR or averages.
As an example, each pitcher throws 3 games
Pitcher A :
9IP 0ER
6IP 4ER
Pitcher B:
8IP 2ER
6IP 2ER
I’m going to assume Pitcher A will have Better numbers, but shouldn’t the context matter? Does throwing a shutdown significantly increase team win probability more than 1 or 2 runs?
That’s not really how it works over more relevant sample sizes
But we don’t have very large sample sizes this year. IDK why this guy has downvotes. In one of Bill James’ books, he writes about pitcher volatility and how that affects winning. granted, he did it on a season scale and how it relates to winning championships, but looking at a game scale and how it affects team wins is no less valid.
I sit B-Ref WAR or RA9-WAR that considers quality of competition?
B-Ref WAR considers quality of competition.
If Bauer wins the NL Cy Young will the increase in his spin rates be credited with helping him achieve the award?
Will his sudden 400 rpm increase be scrutinized closely by people critical of foreign substance use to increase spin rates……..people like Trevor Bauer?
Hypocrisy here, hypocrisy there,in America……… hypocrisy everywhere!
https://defector.com/trevor-bauer-should-just-admit-it/
He IS being open about it. Everyone in baseball knows, and they all remember his tweet about adding RPM through pine tar. Right now he is just proving his point that no one cares even if you do it openly, so the rule should just be changed.
Bauer is a weirdo, but he is not trying to hide this. He is daring someone to either punish him according to the rules or change the rules.
Not sure I would want to face Cinci as the 7 or 8 seed. They seem to be improving and Bauer + Castillo make as good a 1-2 as anyone except maybe Cubs.
Might Gonsolin be worthy of the NL RoY?
“The question then becomes how much a voter might discount Bauer’s numbers due to a weaker schedule. Darvish and Burnes have had only slightly tougher opponents, while deGrom’s four starts against the Marlins (97 wRC+) represented his weakest challenges this season. In most seasons, the schedule is going to even out or at least be close over 30-plus starts. That’s not the case this year, and it’s unclear precisely how much that should be a factor for Cy Young voters. It is tough to find separation, and the short schedule makes these choices even tougher.”
I’m pretty curious to know why you didn’t mention this problem in your AL Cy Young piece.
Let me guess: because it doesn’t fit your unwise narrative that Bieber should have a lock on the award.
– AL bWAR leaders –
1. Bieber 3.3
2. Ryu 3.0
3. Lynn 2.1
4. Cole 2.1
5. Plesac 2.1
6. Keuchel 2.1
7. Bundy 1.7
8. Maeda 1.6
9. Bassitt 1.6
10. Hendriks 1.5
– Ryu’s ERA/xERA/FIP –
2017: 3.77/4.67/4.74
2018: 1.97/3.07/3.00
2019: 2.32/3.49/3.10
2020: 2.69/3.23/3.01
And you know the reason why his traditional ERA didn’t overperform his xERA and FIP as much as in previous years.
*TOR defense: 29th in DRS and OAA
* In terms of actual vs. expected production allowed on batted balls, Ryu resides on the unlucky side while Bieber is on the lucky side.
The above, of course, means that Ryu’s ERA should be lower and his bWAR higher than the current respective numbers, which also means that Bieber and Ryu are in a virtual tie.
I would assume that you understand the reason for Ryu’s overperformance.
Why would you chide the author for not examining strength of schedule, and then not mention anything related to strength of schedule in your comment? I was interested to see just how weak the opponents Bieber faced were, but then you didn’t show anything.
RA9opp:
Bieber: 4.48
Ryu: 5.26
Bieber’s defense helped him by 0.30 runs while Ryu was hurt to the tune of -0.57 runs.
That said, Bieber lead the league in ERA, ERA+, FIP, IP, SO, and Wins. Bieber was dominant against some weak offensive teams. That makes it closer than it appears at first glance, but Bieber still is ahead of Ryu in B-Ref WAR even accounting for all of that.
I used to like bWAR for pitchers, but whatever it is they’re doing now for the team and strength of opponent numbers seems to have made their numbers nonsensical. Maybe it would look better over the full season, when the defense and strength of opposition would be at least more reliable metrics themselves. In general, adding in extremely unreliable defensive metrics to value a pitcher seems like a terrible idea.
Add in SIERA and Bauer (2.93) ranks second to deGrom (2.71). Every other candidate is ≥ 3.10, except Darvish (3.04). “SIERA doesn’t ignore balls in play, but attempts to explain why certain pitchers are more successful at limiting hits and preventing runs.”
Just an aside, but the NYM’s Citi Field ranks 6th highest for HR in the ESPN’s Park Effect ratings. Over the past five years, from 2015-’19, it ranked 17, 11, 27, 16, 22, for an average of 19. Maybe it’s just an effect of the small sample size this year.
I love that Kyle Hendricks is 7th on each of the first 5 tables. Human metronome. Almost a pity that he came in 3rd on the final one.
Well we now know deGrom finishes with an ERA .61 higher than Bauer, pitches 5 innings less with one more start, and only tops Bauer by 4K’s and .2 fWAR even with that extra start. If Bauer doesn’t get the award it is a travesty
It’s not a travesty if Bauer doesn’t win. There’s another candidate who has a similar case to make for the award.
Darvish: ERA: 2.01 RA9: 2.13 FIP: 2.22, Record: 8-3, IP: 76, SO 93
fWAR: 3.0 RA9-WAR: 3.6 B-Ref: 2.6 WARP: 2.0
Bauer: ERA: 1.73 RA9: 2.10 FIP: 2.86 Record: 5-4, IP: 73, SO 100
fWAR: 2.5 RA9-WAR 3.6 B-Ref: 2.7 WARP: 2.2
Bauer has one less start than Darvish because of rainouts, COVID and the like. Match them up on even starts as of Thrs. the 24th and it doesn’t look quite the same.
That Bauer is neck and neck with him on one less start tells you pretty much everything you need to know.
Among the trio of Darvish, deGrom , and Bauer, Bauer has the worst FIP, worst xFIP, and lowest WAR. If he doesn’t win, it’s certainly not a “travesty.” I’d choose Darvish.
I’d go Bauer/deGrom/Darvish, but I think they are close enough that you can put ’em in a bag and draw out names and I couldn’t see those in any order being considered a “travesty”.