The Nationals’ Lack of Urgency Is a Problem for the Marlins

The Marlins have already had what would be a record-setting sell-off. Not only have they completely dismantled arguably the best outfield in baseball; they’ve also traded away a quality second baseman about to move to center. So, in a sense, the Marlins’ teardown has involved the trading of four starting outfielders, and there’s only so much meaningful selling left to do. Dan Straily could get something, sure. Justin Bour is better than his pretty much non-existent reputation. Yet the one jewel left is J.T. Realmuto. He’d be the ticket to one last Miami blockbuster.

Realmuto is a catcher who turns only 27 years old in a month and a half, and he’s got another three seasons of club control. As a player, Realmuto is incredibly valuable, and, even more, he’s expressed an interest in getting the chance to play for someone else. Even though Realmuto’s actual leverage here is low, the Marlins wouldn’t hesitate to grant his wish, should the right offer come along. And, say, wouldn’t you know it, but the Nationals could use a quality backstop! Matt Wieters probably shouldn’t be that guy. Miguel Montero isn’t likely to be that guy. The Nationals have been included in catcher rumors all offseason long.

It seems like there should be a reasonable fit. And maybe something here will actually happen. It’s just that there’s a stumbling block: The Nationals are already perhaps too good.

This is something Dave Cameron wrote about in general in his final public baseball post. I felt like we might as well focus on the Nationals specifically, since they continue to surface in Realmuto chatter. It’s no secret the Nationals would like Realmuto. Reportedly, they’d be open to trading Carter Kieboom and Erick Fedde. The Marlins, in turn, would prefer Victor Robles or Juan Soto. Those requests have gone nowhere.

A note: Eric Longenhagen and Kiley McDaniel just released their updated top-100 prospects list, and they actually have Kieboom a little ahead of Soto. Kieboom slots in at No. 40, with a Future Value listing of 55, while Soto’s at No. 50, with a Future Value listing of 50. But while I love Eric and Kiley, I do think it’s my duty to point out other sources disagree. Over at MLB.com, Soto is ranked at No. 29, while Kieboom is ranked at No. 90. And at Baseball America, Soto is ranked at No. 56, while Kieboom isn’t in the top-100 at all. Robles shows up at fourth, sixth, and fifth, respectively.

We can’t say too much without knowing all the details. Maybe the Marlins have been asking for one of the outfielders and Kieboom. Not sure. And I can’t imagine the Nationals would ever get around to trading Robles for a Realmuto-level catcher. In a would-be move like this, Robles is presumably untouchable. But, should Soto be? In the middle of 2016, a 30-year-old Jonathan Lucroy was packaged with Jeremy Jeffress in exchange for Lewis Brinson, Luis Ortiz, and Ryan Cordell. Lucroy, at that point, was under contract for another season and a half. Brinson was Baseball America’s No. 30 prospect, and Ortiz ranked at No. 74. Realmuto should command a significant haul. The Nationals just haven’t met the Marlins’ price, and while you could say it’s just normal haggling over players, I think what’s at least as important is the context.

In isolation, the Nationals are a talented and fairly deep baseball team, but a team that could be better. Catcher is easily the clearest weakness, and Realmuto is a good catcher who’s on the market. So, there’s interest.

In context, however, the Nationals just won their division by 20 games, and they haven’t gotten substantially worse. If anything, they should get to benefit from a full year of Adam Eaton. Now, I don’t think anyone expects the Nationals to win by 20 or more games again, not with the Mets probably healthier and with the Phillies and Braves gradually improving, but various projections put the Nationals’ division advantage somewhere around ten games or so. The Nationals aren’t just the favorites in the NL East. It would be fairly astonishing if they came up short.

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Which is not to say it can’t happen. You’ll recall that the 2015 Nationals were an enormous disappointment. One should never put too much faith in the projections. But from the Nationals’ standpoint, they don’t have to hurry to try to assemble their playoff team right now. They have an excellent shot of getting to the NLDS, and there would exist an organizational belief that the team could keep itself more or less as is for the next several months. If catcher were still a problem in July, something could be done about it then. Perhaps, say, Russell Martin hits the market. Maybe Francisco Cervelli. Maybe someone else. Maybe Realmuto! The Marlins have leverage in talks right now, because they have a valuable player who could make the Nationals better. But the Nationals have their own leverage, in that they don’t feel the pressure to make a move today or tomorrow. There’s no team right behind them, causing them to feel the heat. The Nationals don’t have to cave to the Marlins’ demands, because they can probably win the division again with Wieters behind the plate. Or they can at least play well for a handful of months, and then reconsider.

There are some bigger-picture issues here. Some people think this could be the Nationals’ last chance for a while. After this season, Bryce Harper and Daniel Murphy will be free agents. So, too, could be Ryan Madson and Gio Gonzalez. The Nationals are likely to take a step back after 2018, just as the Phillies move further forward. So, from one perspective, the Nationals might want to maximize their chances right now. The window might well be closing. The counter to that would be — would it really be such a good idea to consolidate even more in the shorter-term? Realmuto would fill in as a quality three-year player. But he’d cost longer-term value, value that could later help prop the team up. Windows close when there are no longer those internal reinforcements. You can understand why the Nationals would hesitate, when they probably don’t feel like, right now, a catcher would put them over the top. They don’t have to give up more than they want to, because they can at least make it to July with the group that they have. Who knows how much progress Juan Soto might make between now and then.

It’s not as if the Marlins are screwed, or anything close. They still have Realmuto, and Realmuto is still very good. And the Nationals aren’t the only team that could stand to add him. As it happens, Realmuto could make the Brewers — as one example — better. Something just as fascinating would be the Phillies entering the mix. They’re not altogether that far from making the Nationals look over their shoulder. Baseball would benefit from some half-decent teams working to close the gaps between themselves and the favorites. That’s exactly what the Brewers have done.

And yet it feels like Realmuto would fit best on the Nationals. They’re the good team with the clearest immediate need. But for the fact that their need isn’t quite so immediate. The Nationals would appear to have too great a divisional margin of error. That doesn’t mean an agreement can’t be reached. It just means the Nationals can always fall back on doing nothing.





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

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JR and the Off-Balance Shots
8 years ago

but at least the nats might flop in another division series while the mets sit at home after a disappointing season. lol at the nats for winning this many division titles

frangipardMember since 2026
8 years ago

You miss the point of the article. Choosing to enter the season with Weiters is not the same as choosing to enter the playoffs with Weiters.

It makes all the sense in the world for them to wait a couple of months to see if he rebounds to pre-2017 levels. If he does, he’s no longer a problem and they can trade prospects for other needs. If not, Realmuto or someone else will still be available mid-season, quite possibly at a lower price.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 years ago

Soto is a beast. I don’t really think the Nationals have any need to move off their offer of Kieboom and/or Fedde, since Lucroy remains unsigned and there are certainly other catchers who would be upgrades over their current situation on the trade market.

CrapshootMember since 2016
8 years ago

Curious – does anyone buy the belief that teams are less likely to trade for C’s (relative to other positions) mid-season because of the time it takes to get to know the pitching staff? Ie, all else being equal, you’d rather have a new C in spring training as opposed to any other position.

MattabattacolaMember since 2026
8 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Sullivan

Catchers are just scary

FS54
8 years ago

Nationals need to trade for a good starting pitcher with at least 2-3 years control. Gio is a free agent after 2018. Strasburg could opt out and go elsewhere after 2019. This coming season, they are counting on Cole and Fedde to be their #5. If they are willing to trade prospects, why not trade for a Archer or someone.

timprov
8 years ago

On the flipside, the Marlins don’t really have any need to hurry. They might not want to hold on to Realmuto’s salary, but they don’t actually have to start paying him until April. That’s plenty of time for a contender or two to lose a catcher. Or for Wieters to show up to spring training and remind the Nationals why they need one.

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
8 years ago
Reply to  timprov

Or for Realmuto to get hurt. He’s pretty much at peak value right now. Today. The longer the Marlins hold on to him, the less trade value he’s got in an abstract sense.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  timprov

We keep saying “the Marlins don’t need to deal yet” for every single player, from Stanton to Ozuna to Yelich. It is more true for Realmuto (who is really freaking cheap) than anyone else they have traded, and I totally buy that they don’t have any need to hurry. And yet this refrain keeps not being true.

frangipardMember since 2026
8 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

“We keep saying “the Marlins don’t need to deal yet” for every single player,”

What you mean “we,” kemosabe? Ever since they traded Stanton, my feeling has been that if they were gonna do that, they might as well trade everyone else as soon as they could get value. I don’t think I’m alone.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  frangipard

Yeah, what I meant by “we” was “other people” but was trying to be generous. I always thought they were going to move everyone on the team who made more than $5 million a year, no matter the returns.

I was actually predicting a nightmare scenario where they tried to attach bad contracts like Prado and Chin and Tazawa to Yelich/Ozuna/Realmuto, but so far they haven’t done that. But so far that hasn’t come to pass, so there’s actually a decent chance they’ll hold onto Realmuto since he’s not expensive this year.

Dave TMember since 2025
8 years ago
Reply to  timprov

Realmuto is going to be making $2.9 million as an Arb 1 in 2018, so his salary is a negligible concern even for the Marlins.

As HappyFunBall points out, the real issue is that Realmuto has three years of control, and 2018 is his cheapest year of control due to expected salary increases through arbitration, so every month of playing time that passes gradually diminishes his theoretical trade value (all else being equal).

With multiple years of control past 2018, Realmuto also only makes sense for a certain limited category of injuries. If, for example, Gary Sanchez or Willson Contreras gets hurt and is expected to miss a few months, paying up in a trade to get 2.5 years of Realmuto still makes very little sense for the Yankees or Cubs. An injury would need to be a limited control player such as McCann (who has a $15 million team option for 2019, with vesting provisions that he wouldn’t meet if he misses a bunch of 2018 with an injury).

SignJulioFranco
8 years ago

“A note: Eric Longenhagen and Kiley McDaniel just released their updated top-100 prospects list, and they actually have Kieboom a little ahead of Soto. Kieboom slots in at No. 40, with a Future Value listing of 55, while Soto’s at No. 50, with a Future Value listing of 50. But while I love Eric and Kiley, I do think it’s my duty to point out other sources disagree. Over at MLB.com, Soto is ranked at No. 29, while Kieboom is ranked at No. 90. And at Baseball America, Soto is ranked at No. 56, while Kieboom isn’t in the top-100 at all. Robles shows up at fourth, sixth, and fifth, respectively.”

This paragraph is a little embarrassing from a Fangraphs organizational perspective.

MattabattacolaMember since 2026
8 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Sullivan

Also it seems the entire reason that paragraph was brought up was because Kieboom seems like an attractive piece, highlighted by Fangraphs rankings

jdbolickMember since 2024
8 years ago

Kieboom is only rated that low by BA & MLB because he missed most of the season with injuries. When he played, he looked like a top forty prospect and he will certainly be ranked higher than that by everyone this time next year if he has a similar performance over a full season. Neither ranking is wrong, it’s just a question of how much weight you put on missed time and whether or not you perceive him to be at elevated risk of additional injuries. If you get a chance to see Kieboom in person this season, I suspect that he will make you a believer.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
8 years ago

Ah yes FanGraphs, the organization devoted to valuing players exactly the same way everyone else in baseball does

Billsaints
8 years ago

There are 7 billion opinions in the world. It would be pretty boring if they were all the same.

n_scheffel
8 years ago

Nats can also try to get Lucroy for cheap, or trade for Grandal.

Just more stalling this offseason.

jdbolickMember since 2024
8 years ago

The Marlins are overplaying their hand here. Kieboom & Fedde for Realmuto would be the best trade Miami has made this offseason, not that it’s a high bar to clear. Given how solid Lucroy was after the break, I’m surprised that the Nationals signed Montero instead.

FS54
8 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

It is a minor league deal.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

You must be really, really high on Kieboom.

jdbolickMember since 2024
8 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Eric Longenhagen and Kiley McDaniel just released their updated top-100 prospects list, and they actually have Kieboom a little ahead of Soto. Kieboom slots in at No. 40, with a Future Value listing of 55, while Soto’s at No. 50, with a Future Value listing of 50.

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Kieboom is only rated that low by BA & MLB because he missed most of the season with injuries. When he played, he looked like a top forty prospect and he will certainly be ranked higher than that by everyone this time next year if he has a similar performance over a full season. Neither ranking is wrong, it’s just a question of how much weight you put on missed time and whether or not you perceive him to be at elevated risk of additional injuries. If you get a chance to see Kieboom in person this season, I suspect that he will make you a believer.

Meanwhile Fedde has a similar profile to Tyler Chatwood.

Alan
8 years ago

The incentive to delay is even stronger when you consider injury risk and salary. Why should the Nationals trade for a catcher now and have 6 months of injury risk and a full season’s salary when they can trade for a healthy catcher who is playing well at the end of July and have 2 months of injury risk and salary to cover?

Having several runaway divisions has all kinds of consequences, including crushing the trade value of most established players.

Dave TMember since 2025
8 years ago
Reply to  Alan

Injury risk might be a real consideration, but Realmuto’s 2018 salary is $2.9 million (he lost his arb case). His salary is a negligible concern, if any.

And the real risk for the Nationals is that in the meantime the Marlins trade Realmuto to some other team, such as either the Brewers or Phillies as mentioned by Jeff.

Alan
8 years ago
Reply to  Dave T

Something the Gerrit Cole trade reminded me of – if you are selling to someone who doesn’t really need your player, you probably are not getting a great return. In the unlikely event the Phillies or Brewers did pony up a serious offer, the Marlins might reasonably say “hold that thought for July 31”.

The point of Jeff’s article seems to be that, barring serious injuries elsewhere, the Nationals are a uniquely good fit for Realmuto. Since, as Jeff points out, Washington can wait for the deadline, the Marlins have little choice but to do the same or risk taking a second-best offer.

John Autin
8 years ago
Reply to  Alan

The Nats have looked like a sure playoff team going into the last 5 seasons, but they missed the cut twice — and were pretty well out of the race by Sept. 1 each time. I don’t deny they’re a heavy favorite to win the NL East, but considering how much is riding on this season, do you really want to be complacent about it?

Petey BienelMember since 2019
8 years ago
Reply to  Alan

Also, who is to say that, when going into the playoffs, the bullets spent on a Wieters upgrade might not be needed to fill another need, should a Rendon or Harper or a rotation piece get hurt? They go into the season with both Eaton and Murphy coming off injuries. Holding onto assets for the deadline and assessing the need going into the last third of the season makes a ton of sense given the shape of the division

Bryan
8 years ago
Reply to  Alan

And at the same time, we have seen time and time again that deadline trades seem to better the opposing team unless you win it all that year. I get the feeling if the Nats go into 2018 without trading one of Soto or Fedde for someone like Realmuto, they will be trading Soto or Fedde or most likely both of them for a lesser catcher at the deadline.

Shawnuel
8 years ago

I am wondering why there has been little interest, on the Nat’s part in Grandal? Fewer years of control, I am sure but a pretty good defensive catcher with power and patience at the plate.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  Shawnuel

I am sure they have interest, but why would the Dodgers trade him to the biggest competition they have in the National League?

tramps like us
8 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

So they can sign Darvish. And they’re very down on Grandal, barely used him in the post-season last year, so why not pass off a guy they’re down on to their competition?

FS54
8 years ago
Reply to  Shawnuel

Can’t he be had next season without any prospect cost?

John Autin
8 years ago

I submit that “starting catcher” is the position LEAST likely for a serious contender to acquire in mid-season.

In this century, the only catcher to start any World Series games after changing teams during the season was Bengie Molina, in his 2010 swan song. As for the last *good* catcher to be the main WS starter after changing teams … anyone?

Lee Stone
8 years ago

All true. Still don’t know why Kieboom, Daniel Johnson, and Raudy Read aren’t Marlins yet. Good trade.