The Padres Are Making a Last Stand

To say 2023 has not exactly been the Year of the Padres should win some kind of solid gold trophy awarded for understatement. After 2021’s epic collapse, they returned to the playoffs last year, and though the NLCS ended in disappointment, they at least got the satisfaction of ending Los Angeles’ season early. With a full year of Juan Soto and the return of Fernando Tatis Jr., surely things would be looking up for the mustard-and-brown! Not so much. Though the Padres haven’t eclipsed 2021 in terms of dramatic failure, they’ve been mired in mediocrity the whole year; the last time they woke up in the morning with at least a .500 record was back in May. A 10–18 record in August suggested they’d go out once again with a whimper. Instead, they’ve gone 13–5 in September, easily their best month, and with a seven-game win streak, they’ve kept the ember of their playoff hopes just hot enough to make a fire potentially. And I mean that literally, since I’m currently thinking of a similar scene at the end of The Fifth Element as I write this.
Many of the elements to make an improbable run are there. For one, there are good reasons to think the Padres are a better team than their record. With a run differential that suggests an 85–68 record — and run differential is still more predictive than actual record — they’d be on the verge of clinching a playoff berth. That kind of thing may not save jobs, but it does give them a better chance at reeling off an impressive run of wins over the final week. Also helping out is that two of the competition have spent the last week in a state of collapse. The Cubs have lost 10 of their last 13 games, including six to direct competitor Arizona and series losses to the last-place Rockies and the last-place Pirates. The Giants, at 6–12 for the month, haven’t been much better and just lost Alex Cobb for at least the rest of the regular season. San Diego, meanwhile, gets six games against the White Sox and Cardinals, two teams that haven’t shown a pulse all season, and three games against those stumbling Giants.
Over at MLB.com, our friend Mike Petriello wrote about San Diego’s lackluster campaign and ran down some of the scenarios that need to happen for postseason baseball in San Diego. But let’s go one step farther and crunch some numbers for the Padres.
With Thursday night’s games in the books, I ran the usual ZiPS simulation of a million seasons in order to get the probabilities for the Padres pulling off the big comeback. But for this exercise, instead of just getting what their probabilities are now — about 1.3% — I ran the simulation 10 times, for each possible final record for San Diego. I think this is a better visual representation of their challenge than just the straight-up projections.
| Padres Go | Finish At | Playoff % |
|---|---|---|
| 9-0 | 84-78 | 38.6% |
| 8-1 | 83-79 | 15.8% |
| 7-2 | 82-80 | 3.9% |
| 6-3 | 81-81 | 0.5% |
| 5-4 | 80-82 | 0.0% |
| 4-5 | 79-83 | 0.0% |
| 3-6 | 78-84 | 0.0% |
| 2-7 | 77-85 | 0.0% |
| 1-8 | 76-86 | 0.0% |
| 0-9 | 75-87 | 0.0% |
With multiple competitors ahead of them by multiple games, the Padres can’t count on a collapsing team doing most of their heavy lifting. Even shooting the moon in their final nine games leaves them more likely to miss the playoffs than make the postseason. I’m not sure if that’s an even more tragic result; imagine finishing the season on a 16-game winning streak and then still barely missing October baseball! Turns out the first five months of the season are pretty important.
To make the last few days of the season really interesting in San Diego, the team has maybe one loss to work with. Merely going 7–2 leaves the team gigantic underdogs, and ZiPS sees the Padres averaging a .568 winning percentage over the last nine games, otherwise known as 5–4.
But are the generalized ZiPS projections accurate? At this point of the season, you can reasonably construct the pitching matchups, so using the methodology of the ZiPS playoff projections, I projected each game individually:
| Date | Padres Starter | Opposing Team | Opposing Starter | Home/Road | Padres Win% |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9/22 | Matt Waldron | Cardinals | Dakota Hudson | Home | 60.2% |
| 9/23 | Nick Martinez | Cardinals | Jake Woodford | Home | 62.9% |
| 9/24 | Michael Wacha | Cardinals | Drew Rom | Home | 59.4% |
| 9/25 | Blake Snell | Giants | Logan Webb | Road | 51.9% |
| 9/26 | Seth Lugo | Giants | Kyle Harrison | Road | 55.7% |
| 9/27 | Matt Waldron | Giants | Sean Manaea | Road | 52.5% |
| 9/29 | Pedro Avila | White Sox | Dylan Cease | Road | 59.6% |
| 9/30 | Michael Wacha | White Sox | Mike Clevinger | Road | 63.5% |
| 10/1 | Blake Snell | White Sox | José Ureña | Road | 73.9% |
Using the Probables Grid gets a sunnier result for the Padres than the generalized model, with it seeing the Padres as a .599 team over the final nine games. That difference is enough to give the team about a 2% chance to make the playoffs rather than 1.3% — a small change, but given the overwhelming difficulty of the task, they ought to be happy for any slim advantage they can find.
The chaos of a monumental final run by the Padres may be just what my colleague Jay Jaffe has been missing since baseball ended Games 163. If they pulled off the miraculous comeback — as large as any you’ll find without pulling off the Triple Lindy — will anyone really remember the first two acts?
For five months this season, the Padres were one of the bleakest stories in baseball. But the denouement is looking just interesting enough to sit back with the bottom of your popcorn bucket and wait for the credits to roll before heading back to the car.
Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
The fact that they still have a 1 in 150 or whatever chance at the playoffs despite a horrendous season is both amazing and an indictment of the NL beyond the Braves and Dodgers. The fact they still have a 1 in 2000 or whatever chance at a WS victory could be 1951 Giants historic.
I’m a little surprised that the Cubs have let mediocrities like the Marlins and Reds back in this thing. They spent all year pasting opponents and it didn’t show up in their record until something like July, and then they get to play the D-Backs in September and they go 0-7. I suppose it’s quite likely it’s random and there’s no reason for it, but their brand of top-notch infield defense and a whole lineup of slightly-above average hitters just didn’t work against the D-Backs. Makes you wonder if they’re going to be ready to go up against the higher caliber of team you deal with in the playoffs.
Bellinger isn’t “slightly” above average, at least this year.
Having .500-ish teams remain in contention until the end is a feature of having three wild-card berths. It’s what the Lords of Baseball want.
Yet one of Toronto, Seattle, Texas or Houston won’t be participating
Yes. What the Lords of Baseball want is not mediocre teams chasing a one and done WC berth, per se. What they want is a maximum of late season drama. Well, they’ve got it.
“What they want is a maximum number of Postseason games for which they don’t need to pay the players.”
FIFY
I don’t think it’s really fair to cast this as an indictment of the NL, which I think is sixteen games ahead in interleague play even without the Braves and Dodgers. (The teams that are tied for second worst in the NL, the Cards and Nats, are even and two games ahead in interleague play respectively!)
The NL:
doesn’t have any team like the A’s and Royals that’s already racked up 100 losses, most to the rest of the league
doesn’t have a division winner like the Twins, who’d be fighting to keep their wild card slot in the NL
does have the aforementioned Padres who have had had terrible luck converting their positive run differential into wins, and the Cubs are similar to a lesser extent.
That means the wild card line is in the .520s instead of the .540s, and a team with a negative run differential is probably going to get in by outperforming–but it also means the NL just isn’t as boom-or-bust as the AL. This could just as easily be an indictment of the AL’s second-division teams crapping the bed while even the bad NL teams keep battling.
(OK, I see that the Royals have somehow won 9 of 10… one could just as easily make it an indictment of the AL that a team in a playoff race has managed to drop 4 of 5 to the Royals.)
The rotation isn’t set in stone but the padres seem committed to not getting 6 starts from the 3 good starters and even then giving more starts to Waldron than the Martinez/Avila combo. They could reshuffle the rotation without putting anyone on short rest. AJ are you listening???
Is it AJ or BM?
It’s BMel for sure (see his handling of the staff in the NLCS) but given AJ’s penchant for micromanaging, you’d think he’d point out to BMel that he could avoid using his worst SP in a pennant chase at little cost.
It’s funny, I thought the rotation was going to be the team’s achilles heel because it wasn’t deep enough to withstand injuries or underperformance, which is important because Blake Snell is often hurt and inconsistent, Yu Darvish is old, and Seth Lugo and Michael Wacha were probably best thought of as “failed starters.” But what do you know, Snell was good and healthy, and Lugo and Wacha were decent, and really nobody played badly (and enough) to tank the whole season. And yet, here they are with an actual winning percentage that’s 60 points below their BaseRuns record.
Joe Musgrove was supposed to be a stalwart
I guess they could alter the projections in their favor by starting Snell (and Wacha) on 3 days rest?
Unless those guys suck on 3 days rest
They don’t need to go on short rest. There was an off day yesterday and another one after the STL series.
I know the Pirates are usually in last place but they actually aren’t now.
Yes, the true late season drama! Can the Pirates break their string of finishing behind the Cardinals?
wow the schedule is IDEAL can knock off a team in front of you and two extremely disinterested teams.
Los Doyers want no part of the Padres in the playoffs, doc roberts is shaking in his boots.
They have a chance to do one of the funniest things ever
Unsure what would be funnier. Making the playoffs or winning last 16 and not making the playoffs
Missing the playoffs with a 16-game winning streak would be the ultimate Padresing.
Good Back to School reference!
If they’d shown some heart during the season, I’d be more optimistic.
7-26 in one run games? 0-11 in extra innings–with a guy on second and all those big bats? I don’t know if that’s bad luck. Seems like a team that doesn’t really want to win.
Spending big is necessary but not sufficient. That’s baseball.
“0-11 in extra innings–with a guy on second”
To be fair, their opponent also gets a man on second base… but lets look at what their offense has done and what their defense has allowed in those innings:
San Diego: .160/.246/.240/0.486 (59PA)
Opponents: .405/.481/.738/1.220 (58 PA)
While their offense has struggled mightily in extra innings, their pitching was so bad, that it feels unreasonable to blame the offense. This most certainly looks like a team effort to get to an 11-0 record in extra innings.
Curious, how do the two look for the 8th-9th inning?
San Diego: .233/.337/.377/0.714
Opponents: .222/.310/.341/0.651
So, things seem to be going fine leading up to extras…
You don’t get responses like this on the boards at ESPN.
God I love FanGraphs. I should go buy one of their t-shirts or somethin.
I know we hate things not having reasons, but there really doesn’t seem to be a reason for their bad record in close games. This is mostly the same team that made a deep playoff run last year and had the best record in the league in 1 run and extra inning games. Somehow I doubt adding Xander Bogaerts and Fernando Tatis Jr. suddenly made them not want to win.
You can point to clubhouse chemistry issues as many have. But is that why they aren’t winning close games or a result of not winning close games?
The Marlins were 24-40 in 1 run games in 2022. They are 31-13 this year. Yes, they have a new manager and some different players, but a lot of those guys are the same.
I think the close games is what makes the difference. And In really close games, you need to want it more than the other guy. It’s not that they don’t care whether they win or lose. It’s more like when all the marbles are on the table, the other team finds ways to make it happen in big games.
My alternative theory is that Jorge “How Far” Alfaro put a voodoo curse on the Padres when he left. From memory, he had at least four walk offs in 2022. Swung crazy, but when all the marbles were on the table, he was the guy you wanted at the plate.
This is baseball, not football. You can’t be better in your next AB/inning by just trying harder. and sometimes it’s even counterproductive.
Over 11 games in extra innings, you can. 7-26 in one run games? Yeah, somebody’s not laying down that bunt. Somebody’s not hitting that sacrifice fly. Somebody’s falling short on the reach for that hard shot. Somebody’s leaving the ball high and over the plate. And they’re blowing situations like that over and over again–19 out of 26 times.
This is said under the assumption that guys aren’t giving it their all when they have a chance, and of all sports, baseball players get very few opportunities to impact a game. Because of that, you just can’t convince me that guys are just “trying harder” and winning more one run games because of it.
In any particular one-run game, I’d agree with you.
0-11.
7-26.
I don’t buy that there’s no explanation for that over so many games–and that’s the difference between making the playoffs and not making the playoffs.
You’re attempting to build a narrative out of nothing. And at the same time implying one group of professional athletes tries harder than the next group based on such a weak weak connection. Any one close game could be determined by a bad bounce, injury, managerial call, familial situation, non injury related health issues, pet dying…ANYTHING. Throw in just plain luck and there you go. It’s insulting to the athletes themselves to say they don’t give it their all, especially when you have very little to no access as to their effort levels, including practices, weight training, daily lives, or anything at all. We only really have access to results. And those don’t always follow who is trying harder or anything of the sort.
There is a sample size at which performance in one-run games becomes a statistically significant indicator of talent (or “heart”). Is that sample size under 160 one-run games? Probably not much. Random shit is usually just random. Life isn’t actually fair. And neither is baseball.
Make that 0-12 in extra innings as of Saturday night. What a way to have their winning streak snapped after coming back to tie it in the 9th inning!
Back at the deadline when people questioned why the Padres didn’t sell I realized how ideal their schedule is at the end of the season to make a run for it. What’s crazier though is the Mets also had an ideal schedule in Sept to make a run for the WC, but because they sold off they had no chance. After the deadline they’re still only 8.5 back right now. They play the Reds 3 times, the Dbacks 4 times, the Marlins 6, and the Phillies 7 the last two weeks alone, the perfect setup to make a run, but oh well.
Of course, Ballmer prioritizes a ring over making the playoffs with “a chance.”