The Reds Have Been the Anti-Cubs

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. If we can take some liberties with this, let’s describe the Cubs as an action. An extremely powerful and overwhelming action! It’s an action that seems borderline unstoppable. With that in mind, the opposite of the Cubs is the Reds. The Cubs have been good at pretty much everything. The Reds, meanwhile, have been bad at everything.

You can stop there if you want. You already have the idea, and what follows below is just filling out the picture. Cubs good, Reds bad. I’m just fascinated by the magnitude and diversity of the bad. Before the year, I had the Reds pegged as the seemingly bad team with the best chance of being a decent team. I stand by what I believed, but that’s just not how it’s playing out. The Reds have been a spectacular mess, and though the Braves and perhaps the Twins have commanded the everything-sucks headline genre, the Reds have probably been worse. The Reds have been the worst.

There’s one particular way I want to show this, but we might as well get the simpler stuff out of the way. The Reds own baseball’s third-worst winning percentage. However, they own baseball’s worst run differential, and their BaseRuns record puts them in last place. By BaseRuns, the Reds should be 13-34, with the Braves next-worst at 14-31. That’s two games better! The Braves used to be the team that made me laugh a cruel laugh, but now the Reds have taken the honor, and here’s why — they’ve probably been lucky to have a run differential of -96. BaseRuns puts their estimated run differential at -109. The Reds have somehow been horrible and fortunate.

This shouldn’t surprise you, but given that the Reds have been the worst, they also have the lowest team WAR. They are the only team that has been, by our measures, worse than replacement-level. The Reds have a combined team WAR of -3.1; the Braves are at 0.0, and the A’s are at +1.3. Somehow, the Reds have gotten here despite a strong start by Zack Cozart, and despite a surprising performance by Adam Duvall. The seemingly invulnerable Joey Votto stands with a WAR of 0.0. Jay Bruce’s offense is back on track, but his defense has more than canceled it out. I could keep going, but that would be mean. I don’t want to pick on individuals. I just want to show you what the team has done as a whole.

Let’s go back to the headline now. The Reds as the anti-Cubs. The Cubs seem to have countless team strengths; the Reds would appear to have none of them. What I did is break things down in five categories. For team position players, I looked at wRC+, baserunning, and defense, where for defense I just combined DRS and UZR into one figure. Then for each team I folded in starting-pitcher WAR, and then relief-pitcher WAR. I ranked every team in all five categories, and then I calculated the overall average rank. This is not a direct measure of team ability — baserunning, for example, is far less important than hitting. But this captures well-roundedness, or the lack thereof. Anyway, the image:

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The Cubs have an average team rank of 5.6. That’s the best in the league, and only the bullpen has been a relative weakness. The Cubs are in the top four in the other four categories. So, that’s a team that does almost everything right. Now look at the other side of the plot. In this plot, a tall bar is a bad bar. The Reds have an average team rank of 28.0. The Braves are separated by 3.4 points. The Reds are in the bottom five in all five categories, and in three, they’re in the bottom three. They’re dead last in starter WAR and reliever WAR. Everything has been bad. At least the Braves have gotten decent relief. At least the Padres have been awesome at running the bases.

The Reds aren’t the worst team in baseball directly because of this, but this is a great way to be the worst team in baseball. And, yeah, people are right when they tell you the idea this year was never to win — the Reds are rebuilding. Things suck when you rebuild. But no one wants to put this kind of product on the field. You can at least sell rebuilding as being in the fans’ best interests. A team this bad is more like a direct assault on fan loyalty. The Reds, in theory, should improve from now on, if the projections are to be believed, yet train wrecks leave an impression. This stretch of Reds baseball might be tough to forget.

Again, they should get better. Votto, say, should get better. They’re all, if only by definition, major-league players. But right now, Reds position players have a negative WAR, and Reds pitchers have a negative WAR. There have been negative-WAR teams, but not since at least 1900 has there been a team with negative WAR in both areas. Here’s a table of the Reds, and of the teams that’ve come closest:

Some Really Bad Teams, by WAR
Team Season Hitters Pitchers
Reds 2016* -0.8 -2.3
Padres 1974 0.8 1.9
Tigers 2003 -1.2 2.9
Astros 2013 1.0 2.0
Tigers 1996 0.2 2.9
Mets 1963 -4.6 3.1
Athletics 1954 -2.5 3.9
Mets 1965 -0.2 4.9
This is a table of teams that have threatened to have negative position-player WAR and pitcher WAR. The Reds’ season, of course, is incomplete. (That might be too bad for them.)

The Reds haven’t hit. When they’ve gotten on base, they haven’t run successfully. They haven’t turned enough balls in play into outs, and that’s rough news for what’s been a bad rotation and an even worse bullpen. Realistically speaking, teams don’t perform worse than this. You’ve gotten used to the Braves being lousy. You’ve taken time to feel bad for the Twins. Don’t forget about the Reds. Unless, I suppose, you’re a fan of the Reds.





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

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Distortive Effects of Advertising
10 years ago

Die hard Reds fan here. I started the 2nd week of the season, tuning in just to watch Votto hit, but now, I don’t even do that. Now, I just turn on Dodger home games. But in 2018, they’ll be adequate. I have a 2 year old daughter who is adorable and makes me laugh and that is more than enough for me.

Spudchukar
10 years ago

Hope you can appreciate this line that I am repeating from another sites post, “The Reds will be lucky to finish 5th.”

j27roenick
10 years ago

I refuse to believe that some team has a lower-rated bullpen than the Reds in 2016. There’s just no way. The back end of the Cincy ‘pen is probably the worst I’ve ever seen in 25+ years of closely watching baseball, and the main reason why I convinced myself to bet the under on them no matter what it was before season win totals were available to be wagered upon.

Brian ReinhartMember since 2016
10 years ago
Reply to  j27roenick

The worst bullpen on record, by WAR, is the 2013 Astros, -5.2 WAR over the full season. The Reds aren’t in the top ten yet…but they also haven’t played even a half-season yet.

JDX
10 years ago

One of the crazy things is Votto is running career best Hard% and career low Soft%. The crux seems to be he’s trading liners and fly balls for grounders. Also, running worse contact rates on pitches in the middle of the plate he normally punishes.

JimMember since 2016
10 years ago
Reply to  JDX

AND . . . do not throw a paper airplane near Votto.

Hurtlocker
10 years ago

Kind of hard to believe that Votto is as bad as he is, I mean Shelby Miller was borderline to begin with but Votto was a star.

JediHoyer
10 years ago

The title of the second chart. Lol

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10 years ago

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AnonMember since 2020
10 years ago

I figured the 2004 DBacks had to be negative WAR on both sides but I forgot about Randy Johnson. That has to be a single season record for most WAR from 1 player as they were -0.4 WAR on offense and 10.6 WAR pitching but Unit was 9.6 WAR alone. Brandon Webb was another 2.6 WAR which of course means the entire rest of the team was -2.0 WAR.

Neils-Henning Orsted Joc Pederson
10 years ago

Here’s something: The Reds have won more games against teams .500+ than the Red Sox, Mariners, Pirates, Orioles, Giants, Cardinals, Dodgers, White Sox, Rangers, Rays, and Tigers.
You can look it up.

dollarfiveo
10 years ago

The red’s make all the teams they play 500+ teams lol

Richie
10 years ago

Actually, that might explain things. If the Reds have played a particularly tough schedule thus far out.

Richie
10 years ago

So the Reds have had a spectacularly bad bullpen, yet are outperforming their run differential. Interesting.

Big Daddy V
10 years ago
Reply to  Richie

Simple explanation for that. Alfredo Simon can only pitch every 5 days, but he allows enough runs per game to make up for the entire rest of the staff.

Neils-Henning Orsted Joc Pederson
10 years ago
Reply to  Richie

Outperforming one’s run differential may not mean remotely what many people think it means (i.e. good managing or good bullpen).
Consider this hypothetical. Red Sox and Orioles enter the final weekend tied at 90-69, and each team has scored 800 runs and permitted 700. So, with three games remaining, each team (and therefore each manager) has faired exactly equally well relative to Pythagorean expectations, right? Then, over their 3-game set, the Sawx trounce the Birds 15-2, 10-1, and 17-3.
So. Between Showalter and Farrell, which manager has now, for the season as a whole, performed the best relative to Pythagoras? Why, Buck Showalter, the manager whose team was outscored 42-6 over the most important series of the season. (This is why we should ignore people who say we should evaluate managers based on how well their teams do v. Pythag formulae. The manager’s record gets BETTER every time his team gets trounced.)

ChippersJonesing
10 years ago

I know this is a post about the Reds in general, but another Joey Votto post(!): I refuse to believe a hitter as good as him (Top 30(?) by wOBA all time) is being beat by the high inside pitch. There’s gotta be more to it, right? I mean, the BABIP will probably sort itself out somewhat, but how does a hitter that good start running a near 30% K rate? If it was as “easy” as pitching him up and in, what took pitchers so long?

A theory no one will care about probably:
Is it possible he’s trying to do much, that he’s feeling the pressure of the new contract, and wanting too much to live up to it, so he’s selling out for power? Trying to “force things”. If you look at his plate discipline numbers, they’re Joey Votto, Swing% (O&Z), SwSt%, Contact%, everything. The only noticeable difference is in his batted ball profile, where his pull% and hard hit% are out of whack.

JDX
10 years ago

He certainly didn’t feel the pressure of the contract last year when he posted a 172 wRC+.

Votto hasn’t handled inside pitching well since 2011. He’s being pitched inside more than ever.

I’m not going to link it here because that would be uncouth, but I wrote something about it a few weeks ago on a Reds fanblog. Feel free to Google-fu and try to find it if you want.

ChippersJonesing
10 years ago
Reply to  JDX

Cool, will do.

And I thought the contract just kicked in this year? Regardless, it shouldn’t be *this* big of a deal, I was just using it as a way of saying his problems might be psychological.

bphelps
10 years ago

First thought: by base runs, the Cubs have actually been UNLUCKY to this point. So ponder that. Second, I can’t help but notice that the third place team on your rating chart works out to be the Dodgers, who certainly don’t seem to have the record to show for it right now. Thinks.

bkgeneralMember since 2016
10 years ago

Life long Reds fan here. The 1982 Reds were the worst Reds team I can remember. Well not anymore. Watching this mess makes me long to see Johnny Bench at 3b.

sidnancy
10 years ago

One thing missed in the article – the starting pitchers have been decimated by injuries. Of the top 5 SP by ZiPS ERA going into the season, only Finnegan has made every start. DeSclafani and Bailey haven’t pitched yet, and Iglasias and Lamb have combined for 9 starts (with Iglasias having no timeline for a return).

The Reds’ pitching wasn’t any great shakes last year, but DeSclafani is the best returning pitcher (by last year’s WAR); John Lamb (who’s made only 4 big league starts; he should be in the minors) is 2nd; and no other returning pitcher was worth even 0.5 WAR.

mymaus
10 years ago

According to ESPN the Reds have faced the toughest schedule in MLB. Combine that with the fact that their 3 top pitchers Iglesias, DeSclafani and Bailey have all spent longer than expected on the DL and guys who normally play at least average or better defense (Bruce, Phillips & Suarez) have been horrible (i.e. bad luck) and there you have it. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they play better than at least 5 other teams the ROY. Not good…..but not this bad.