The Royals Try a New Shift

Jay Biggerstaff-USA TODAY Sports

After a decade of hand-wringing and tedious arguments on both sides, MLB restricted defensive shifts this past offseason. Much has already been written about the pros and cons of this decision, and I’m not going to take the time to recapitulate all of those arguments here. One debate in particular really caught my eye, though: Would teams still play an overshift-esque alignment by moving an outfielder to the shallow right field position occupied by shifted second basemen in pre-restriction shifts?

I expected it to be a rare tactic, but still one that came up from time to time. Five-man infields already existed; in fact, I ran the math on when they might make sense in 2019 when the Dodgers tried one. The exact conclusion of that piece isn’t important; the point is that teams sometimes thought a five-man infield was the best defensive alignment when any defense was allowed, so they would surely prefer it with restrictions on other alignments in place.

One thing I absolutely didn’t expect: a five-man infield against Joey Gallo. The Royals had other plans, however. They pinched in their right fielder and rotated the rest of the outfield to compensate for it against him in his first at-bat of the season. The result was amusing, particularly if you’re a fan of the best laid plans going awry:

The Royals weren’t giving up so easily, though. They continued running a five-ish man infield against Gallo, and they’ve even expanded their use of the tactic against other left-handed hitters. Per MLB data architect Tom Tango, they’ve already used a roughly similar alignment 19 times this year:

A general analysis of this defense would be interesting, but it’s beyond the scope of this article. You’d need exact starting positions for each fielder on each play, as well as detailed batted ball data for the hitters involved. I don’t have access to that. What I do have is some spare time and a little bit of creativity, as well as some granular descriptions of Gallo’s batted ball tendencies. Can it truly make sense to remove outfielders against one of the air-happiest hitters in baseball? Let’s do some approximating and find out.

The question we’re trying to answer here is straightforward: Does moving a fielder from the outfield to a glorified infield position take production away from Gallo? To answer that, we’ll need two things. First, how many base hits does the extra fielder take away? Second, how many extra hits are the Royals giving back by putting fewer players in the outfield? If we can come up with estimates for those two numbers, the rest is easy. We just compare the two and pick the bigger one.

First things first: we need to know how frequently Gallo hits grounders, line drives, and fly balls. Easy enough! Here are his career numbers pulled from his player page:

Joey Gallo, Batted Ball Tendencies
Batted Ball Type Frequency
Grounder 29.3%
Line Drive 19.4%
Fly Ball (ex IFFB) 45.2%
IFFB 6.0%

Now we have an idea of how many batted balls will be affected by the displaced fielder. Grounders will be easier to field, MJ Melendez’s gaffe notwithstanding. Fly balls will be tougher to field with the new alignment. Line drives are trickier, so we’ll treat those separately.

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One complication with working out what happens with grounders is that there isn’t a lot of data on Gallo against five-man infields. To handle that, I sliced his batted ball data up into two buckets: opposite field and pull plus straightaway. The five-man infield looks like an unshifted defense against opposite-field grounders and like an overshift against pulled and straightaway grounders. How has Gallo performed on those types of hits against those types of defenses? Here:

Joey Gallo, Grounder Outcomes in wOBA
Direction No Shift Shift
Pull/Straightaway .296 .125
Opposite .529 .561

There’s just one problem with that lovely chart: Gallo has hit exactly five career opposite-field grounders against a standard defense. He rarely hits the ball on the ground, rarely hits it the other way when he does, and has rarely faced unshifted defenses (until this year, of course).

Still, I have good news. We can completely ignore that side of the table, because nothing the Royals choose to do can change anything about that. They can shuffle their outfielders all they want; there will still be two infielders on the left side. All we care about is the difference between Gallo’s production to the pull side against standard defenses and how much worse he does when the defense shifts.

For every 100 batted balls, Gallo hits 29.3 grounders, as we covered up above. Out of those 29.3, he pulls a ton of them, with 90% of his batted balls either up the middle or pulled. That makes the math straightforward. For every 100 batted balls, there will be 26.4 pulled grounders. Adding an extra fielder in shallow right is worth 171 points of wOBA, in expectation, on those grounders. After doing a bit of conversion to turn that into runs, the Royals are saving 3.8 runs in expectation per 100 batted balls, specifically on grounders, by bringing their right fielder in close.

How many runs are they giving back with a two-man outfield? That’s tremendously hard to measure, but I’m going to take a stab at it. The biggest problem with a two-man outfield is guarding the lines. If you look at the diagram up above, you can see that both foul lines are wide open compared to a normal defensive alignment.

I got extremely approximate here, using hit coordinate data from the Statcast feed to approximate Gallo’s batted ball landing spots. I found that 15% of his fly balls were down one line or the other and hit far enough that infielders had no play, which passes the eye test as well. We care only about a subset of those line-hugging fly balls, though: the ones that would have been outs against a regular defense. Roughly 44% of those fly balls turned into outs. Turning half of those into doubles and half into singles increased Gallo’s wOBA on these field-boundary fly balls from .960 to 1.426. Those numbers are huge; Gallo rips a lot of pulled home runs.

More important for our purposes than the raw production numbers are the changes. For every 100 batted balls, Gallo hits 45.2 fly balls, as we covered up above. If 15% of those are down the line, that works out to 6.8 batted balls per 100. That means that turning some of his outs into hits thanks to the two-outfielder defense costs the Royals 2.6 runs in expected production per 100 batted balls.

Lastly, we need to cover what happens on line drives, and that’s far from easy. I decided to apply the same criteria that I did for fly balls, but I’m a lot less confident that this method works here. For example, a line drive to dead center could split the two-outfielder configuration, but would be an easy out for a regular outfield. On the other hand, a line drive into the gap might be directly at a fielder who would otherwise have no chance. I treated those two possibilities as a wash, but again, I’m not sure that’s the right decision.

Regardless of whether or not that’s the correct decision, it’s the decision I made. Therefore, I mostly performed the same calculation as above, with one slight adjustment: I widened the definition of “line-hugging” somewhat because the fielders will have less time to get to harder-hit balls. I didn’t make any adjustments for line drives that the short right fielder can now catch, mostly because I didn’t know how to. Let’s treat that as a tiebreaker; if the math works out close to even, the short right fielder’s influence on line drives right at them, whether it’s turning hits to outs or doubles to singles, is a good enough reason to shift.

With that preamble out of the way, here are the numbers: 26% of Gallo’s line drives have hugged the line, almost exclusively to the pull side. They all already mostly turn into hits anyway, so there isn’t quite as much to be gained here, but if the outs again turn into half singles and half doubles, that would raise his wOBA on that subset of line drives from 1.004 to 1.184. Gallo hits 19.4 line drives per 100 batted balls. After plugging all these numbers in, the Royals are costing themselves 0.8 runs per 100 batted balls.

Now, we can put everything together. On grounders, the Royals’ unconventional shift saves them 3.8 runs per 100 batted balls. On balls in the air, it costs them a combined 3.4 runs per 100 batted balls. That’s close enough that we should apply the tiebreaker, which is in favor of shifting. In other words, bringing in their right fielder against Gallo saved the Royals a tiny part of a run, at least per my calculations. We’re doing math in per-100-batted ball increments, but if you want to think in terms of plate appearances, my math says that the Royals save roughly 0.2 runs per 100 PAs. That’s the equivalent of roughly two points of wOBA, not exactly a huge savings.

In the end, perhaps the Royals’ shift is much ado about nothing. Or perhaps my analysis is wrong; I had to make a lot of assumptions to come to a conclusion, and some of them are closer to guesswork than scientific knowledge. I’m most surprised by how narrow the gap between the two options appears to be; it’s close to being a pure toss-up. That’s only the case because Gallo is so extreme of a hitter, though.

Against a more normal hitter, this strategy would make far less sense. Tons of Gallo’s fly ball contact leaves the yard – nearly 30% in his career, and over 50% when he pulls the ball. When he puts the ball on the ground, he almost never hits it the other way, and shifting against him lowers his production on grounders by a ton, because he’s generally hitting the ball quite hard, which means infielders have less time to react. If you take a hitter who’s leaving the yard less frequently or who doesn’t hit his grounders quite as hard, I don’t think the math behind this alignment would hold up.

The Royals are still using it all over the place – they used it against multiple Giants lefties over the weekend. It’s far too soon to say whether it’s working. We might never know if it’s working; there were arguments over how much difference infield shifts made even when everyone was using them for years and years. Let’s leave it at this, then: The Royals brought in an extra infielder against Joey Gallo, and the math says that it was a reasonable decision. Baseball with extra constraints is fun!





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Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
3 years ago

This seems to be the obvious reaction to the shift ban. I’m interested to know how infielders playing RF will be used. Fernando Tatis comes to mind

MikeSMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

It might not be best to have someone like Tatis manning that position. I would think you would want your slowest outfielder in the short-right position since the two remaining outfielders have to cover more ground. If the LF is a plodder, you might want him shifted to short right, Tatis in right center and move the CF to left center.

Outfielders routinely field grounders, so what happened to Melendez shouldn’t be common. They don’t really do it under pressure or throw to first very often, but I assume that if you are going to use this alignment a lot, then you make the outfielder practice it.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

This could be the new “one weird trick”: Find some guy with a fantastic bat who cannot run and put him in RF. Then stack two fantastic CFers behind him. Presto! You now have two CFers and two first basemen!

edit: per a suggestion below, the Blue Jays are the perfect team to do this when Springer needs to DH. Varsho / Kiermaier in the OF, Guerrero / Belt at 1B.

Last edited 3 years ago by sadtrombone
MikeSMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The Blue Jays are a good choice. Maybe the Philies with Castellanos and Schwarber fit too. If you look at the Yankees, Judge is probably a better outfielder than Stanton, so maybe put Stanton in short right and let Judge keep covering the OF.

Naturally I was thinking last year’s White Sox with two 1B’s (Vaughn and Sheets) getting too much time in the OF. Those guys should be good at fielding ground balls and throwing to first on a similar angle with the pitcher covering. Then they would have Robert and either Pollock or Engel as the 2 OF and all those guys cover ground much better than Vaughn or Sheets.

Either way, my strategy trades range on the part of the extra “infielder” to cover more ground in the outfield. I’m not sure if that matters since the short right fielder is mostly going to have more time to react and move, and probably isn’t going to be making a lot of plays on the run then throwing somebody out at first. It seems to me his job is to take away hits in a very small but heavily trafficked part of the field.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

Engel and Robert could handle it in theory, although in practice the availability of both was an issue. The flaw in this theory is that it’s really hard to find a even a single elite defender at CF that you’re willing to play every day, let alone two. Typically it’s so hard that it’s not worth the benefits of having a second 1B out there. Right now the Blue Jays, Rays, Twins, and D-Backs could pull it off, but half the time one of their two elite defensive CFers are hurt. The Yankees would be a bit of a stretch even if Bader was healthy. The Rangers are a stretch. The Phillies are a stretch, and also the idea of putting Brandon Marsh and Pache in the same lineup is horrifying to me.

fanofthemanMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Cardinals would have been perfect for this if they hadn’t traded Bader. Bader and O’Neill in the outfield, with maybe Yepez playing 1B2

Lanidrac
3 years ago
Reply to  fanoftheman

The Cardinals could still do this with Nolan Gorman when they need to give someone else a day at DH (while O’Neill and Carlson play the OF), since Gorman is trying to learn to play 2B anyway.

Last edited 3 years ago by Lanidrac
sadtromboneMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

That sounds like a recipe for a lot of triples. Harrison Bader and and one of O’Neill or Carlson is the bare minimum you would need to pull something like this off.

AnonMember since 2025
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

I think you’re probably right but I suppose the counter to that is if you put your slowest OF in that short RF spot, you’re giving up some ground on flyballs down the line so a few outs are now becoming at least 2B and likely 3B (or for foul balls, just dropping harmlessly rather than being caught for an out).

Last edited 3 years ago by Anon
Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
3 years ago
Reply to  Anon

You probably want the RF to have a good arm in this configuration, and I’m guessing that’s Guerrero since he used to play 3B

HughesMember since 2016
3 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Yeah Vlad’s arm is excellent. 60 grade tool as a prospect. His 87.4 mph arm strength last year was good for 1st among 1B and would be 6th for 3B (ahead of teammate Matt Chapman).

MikeSMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Anon

I’m thinking the right-center fielder makes most of those plays, but both guys have a long way to run to get a ball in the corner.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

So this is the perfect position for plodding former IF Nicholas Castellanos

Dmjn53
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

would it not make the most sense to have your LF play 3B on these plays, given that that’s the least likely spot where the balls going to be hit?

LFer stands at 3B, and the 3rd baseman plays in short RF. THis way you have an infielder fielding the ground ball

MikeSMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

My first thought was that playing the 3B on the grass would be illegal, but the rule just says 4 players on the dirt, two on each side of second. Doesn’t say which players it has to be so this sounds legal to me and a good idea. Or put the LF at third, the 3B at short, just left of second base, put the SS at second base on the dirt, move the second baseman to short right and you basically have a standard 2022 shift, just with no left fielder and a guy standing around doing nothing at third.

Lanidrac
3 years ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

Playing an OFer as a straight-up IFer that’s not the 1B (and even 1B isn’t always easy for OFers to learn) is very awkward if he has no experience there. Even with few balls hit his way, I wouldn’t recommend it unless he can already play 3B.

Last edited 3 years ago by Lanidrac
Dmjn53
3 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

The odds of a ground ball hit in that direction are incredibly low. If I’m using this alignment enough times, I’ll trade away the occasional booted grounder

Lanidrac
3 years ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

It’s still high enough that there are going to be at least a few of them a week, which is too many for an unplayable fielder to handle. Even if the value of the tradeoff is slightly worth it, the fans and eventually the manager will not be able to overlook watching one of the defenders look absolutely foolish out there on a semi-regular basis.

Jeremy FoxMember since 2026
3 years ago

Are the Royals confident this will work, perhaps because they have access to more/better data than Ben does? Or do the Royals merely think this *might* work, and so they’re trying it to find out?

Relatedly, curious to know what Royals players think of this. Do they buy in? In particular, do the pitchers buy in? Or are they going to be pitching more carefully in front of a 2-man outfield, so that the end up walking more guys and striking out fewer?

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
3 years ago
Reply to  Jeremy Fox

I don’t see what “non-lab” data anyone could have since it’s just being tried in games.

Anon21Member since 2018
3 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Teams have access to finer batted-ball data, no?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
3 years ago

I love everything about this. I don’t even care if it works. Practically, I think I like that teams will need to prioritize range for infielders under the new rules. But philosophically I don’t like shift banning; if hitters don’t like it they should stop being so predictable where they hit the ball. So this is a nice, fat middle finger to the new rules, but it’s so limited it has little impact on actual infield defense. I get the best of both worlds.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
3 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I definitely see shift banning as favoring Eric Hosmer and Dan Vogelbach Myles Straw and Tony Kemp. If they want to add more fun to the game by reducing TTO the latter profiles should be favored.

Last edited 3 years ago by Ivan_Grushenko
Lanidrac
3 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Hitters had years to adjust to the overshift, and it just didn’t happen. Most guys realized that aside from dropping down a few extra bunts, they still hit better by using their natural pull approach into the overshift than they did trying to unnaturally change their approach to hit more to all fields.

I do wish we had seen a lot more bunting attempts, though. If I was heavily affected by the overshift, I would’ve initially tried bunting until I had a strike on every PA I had with the bases empty until I got a good enough sample size and then kept doing it if it really helped.

lavarnway
3 years ago

I’m just shocked that the Royals are the ones doing this! Didn’t they used to be one of the most conservative franchises? What happened to make them all of the sudden to go completely out of the box?

RammbergMember since 2019
3 years ago
Reply to  lavarnway

They turned over most of their management last year.

lavarnway
3 years ago
Reply to  Rammberg

That’s awesome. I’m not saying this dramatic shifting is optimal, but cool to see them trying stuff.

Shirtless George Brett
3 years ago
Reply to  lavarnway

The narrative about the royals being dumb/conservative was always a bit overblown any way. they actually did do some things that were a bit ahead of the curve. or at least not horribly behind it lol. 

Things like making significant use of defensive replacements, especially in the OF, and carrying guys like Dyson and Gore in the playoffs to be deployed as pinch runners in high leverage situations. They were also among the first to really go all in on the back end of the bullpen with the Davis, Herrera, Holland trio as well. After they won in 2015 you saw everyone trying to copy that same formula with varying degrees of success.

Their advanced scouting seemed to really be on the ball as well (although that’s more subjective). The Royals were the ones who really exposed and punished Lester not wanting to attempt pickoffs and I believe they also were the ones who figured out Price was tipping his pitches IIRC.

Of course they also did some dumb things as well and hiring guys like Yost and Matheny didnt help. As with most things the actually story is nuanced but that doesnt generate as many clicks as “X team is dumb/smarter”.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
3 years ago

They were way ahead of the curve on baserunning. Way, way ahead of the curve.

My sense is that, much like the Giants under Sabean, the areas where they were most advanced were the areas that were hardest for fans to see.

Shirtless George Brett
3 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yeah, I imagine that is the case with alot of teams. We like to make correations between things we see (and they may or may not be true) but the most impactful things are probably not something that will manifest on field in an obvious way.

Lanidrac
3 years ago

Although, anyone could’ve come up with the obvious idea to run wild on Lester. I still have no clue why the Royals were the only team to do it.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
3 years ago

The other thing about this that I like is that it provides an opening to my favorite seldom-used defensive alignment: The two-CF outfield. This probably works best if you have two CFers with elite range, like Cedric Mullins, Jose Siri, Kyle Isbel, or Brett Phillips. I believe the articles here show that usually it doesn’t work, but I would like to see more of it anyway because outfielders flying all over the place is fun.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
3 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

TOR can probably pull this off with Varsho/Kiermaier.

diegodias
3 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Get the Blue Jays on the phone, we need to see Springer + Kiermaier try this formation asap (or Varsho + Kiermaier… or Springer + Varsho… damn, what an outfield!)

AnonMember since 2025
3 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The DBacks would be a natural fit – they have 3 of the fastest guys in the majors in Carroll (30.7 ft/sec), McCarthy (30.1) and Thomas (29.3)

Last edited 3 years ago by Anon
Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
3 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Cardinals have Jordan Walker in RF with sort of CF at the other 2 positions. Boston has a tiny LF so leaving it for the LCF and 3B to cover would be easier. Yankees have a tiny RF so Cabrera could move there with Judge and Bader covering the wide open spaces

Last edited 3 years ago by Ivan_Grushenko
Six Ten
3 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I wonder if this is part of the Royals’ thinking in continuing to play JBJ and Nate Eaton so much. They have a combined .136 OBP and have 46 PAs in 12 games, but they’re both very good outfielders. And of course Isbel is sitting up there at a cool .233.

Of course, if that’s what you have to do to make this work you are definitely not gaining runs. But I like the experiment as an experiment.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Six Ten

I’m of two minds about this. On the one hand, this makes sense because the Royals don’t have anyone who would actually be hitting to sub in there. Maybe Edward Olivares, who the Royals have been really reluctant to play in past years. But Hunter Dozier is pretty close to DFA’land, Nick Pratto is a mess, Franmil Reyes isn’t any more mobile than Melendez and might be less at this point, Drew Waters is hurt, and Nick Loftin hasn’t exactly torn up AAA.

On the other hand, you would have to imagine that someone would hit better than JBJ. From 2021 to the present, his wRC+ plus gas been 44. Forty four! There’s at least some hope that Kyle Isbel or Nate Eaton could hit close to average, and Pratto’s projections have him as a roughly league-average hitter. It’s implausible to think that Pratto is so much worse of an outfielder than JBJ that it’s worth 50-90 points of wRC+.

Shirtless George Brett
3 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I’m not super confident that Pratto would actually hit better than JBJ. He looked so, so overmatched last year and somehow looked even worse in his short emergency call up this year.

carterMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Six Ten

Eaton also threw a ball 96 in mop up duty. I’m unsure exactly what they are doing w him, but ++defense ++ speed and likely a guy who could throw to a 6ish level Era in the mlb has to some value beyond how he is being used

Shirtless George Brett
3 years ago
Reply to  carter

Just FYI, Eaton pitched in college (45 innings) and posted a 6.60 ERA. And he was probably lucky it was that low considering he had a WHIP around 2.00.

Him throwing a 6ish level ERA in MLB is probably not even close to realistic.

Last edited 3 years ago by Shirtless George Brett
carterMember since 2020
3 years ago

Probably right!

jwa05001
3 years ago

Looked like it was going to be a close play even if it had been fielded cleanly.

Also, no way I’m running that alignment bottom 9th tie game. I’d much rather give up a single to Gallo, than a double or triple that could’ve been caught

Last edited 3 years ago by jwa05001
Lanidrac
3 years ago
Reply to  jwa05001

But if there’s a runner on 3rd base in that situation, then it doesn’t matter if you give up a single versus an extra-base hit, as you’ll lose the game either way.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
3 years ago

Gallo’s not exactly a plodder. If he were to get one into the LF corner, he might get a HR the hard way.

TKDCMember since 2016
3 years ago

Can you still change guys’ positions, or is that not allowed? Arguably the move here might be to put the third baseman in the outfield and the slowest outfielder at third base, as long as he’s minimally capable.

Hell, you could even have him turned away from home plate at the edge of the outfield grass and have him running back on each pitch to cover as much of short left field as possible, while relying on the shortstop to cover the whole left side of the infield.

jwa05001
3 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

That’s a lot of moving parts to save .2 runs per 100 PAs. (IF it’s fielded correctly every time)

TKDCMember since 2016
3 years ago
Reply to  jwa05001

But you’re also sorta putting your thumb in the eye of MLB and their rule changes. That’s gotta be worth a little something, too, right?

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
3 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Yes they’ll ban this and keep banning things until we’re back to the old shift. It’s genius!

Jason BMember since 2017
3 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Nah, there will be little rings on the field where fielders must stand before a pitch can be delivered. If you get outside your safe circle then ‘the floor is lava’ rules apply

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
3 years ago
Reply to  jwa05001

0.2 runs per 100 PA is 11 runs per season. It’s not nothing

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
3 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

per 100 PA of facing Joey Gallo

Barney Coolio
3 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

The Padres kind of did that a lot last season.

On shifts, Manny Machado would move from 3b to very shallow RF. The RF would just stay in RF, not move to 3b.

carterMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Barney Coolio

Which led to one of the greatest plays I have ever seen. Machado catching a ball on the warning track in right field. Also vs Gallo

Last edited 3 years ago by carter
Lanidrac
3 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

You can still change the positions of your defenders but only between plate appearances, although that restriction doesn’t matter in this case.

Pwn Shop
3 years ago

Now the real question, is the example grounder to the right fielder an error, or a hit? Gallo reaches on error – ground ball to right fielder!?

jwa05001
3 years ago
Reply to  Pwn Shop

I would’ve scored it a hit. It didn’t look like a sure out, even with a clean play

Shirtless George Brett
3 years ago
Reply to  Pwn Shop

It was scored a hit but i suspect he would have been out pretty easily if fielded cleanly. Gallo wasnt even in the frame yet when Melendez first touched the ball and MJ he has a great arm.

mikecws91
3 years ago

Never expected to see the Royals on the cutting edge of anything.

brock20
3 years ago
Reply to  mikecws91

Hal McRae and George Brett would like a word with you. As would Whitey Herzog.

Jason BMember since 2017
3 years ago
Reply to  brock20

George Brett is already here, and he is shirtless

ptobias23
3 years ago

i think another thing to consider is GBs that get through the infield (possibly down the lines) that turn into doubles instead of singles because of the 5-man infield shift. perhaps a tie-breaker back against the shift?

Six Ten
3 years ago
Reply to  ptobias23

Last night Corey Seager dropped a ball right into the left field corner against this alignment. Standup double but impossible to get any more normally, and it would have been an easy triple if he hadn’t wrecked his hamstring trying to accelerate off first base. So far the Royals still haven’t been burned by this alignment purely by chance, but it’s going to be interesting to see exactly what it looks like when they are.

Six Ten
3 years ago
Reply to  Six Ten

Uh, which I just noticed jcouch said below.

carterMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Six Ten

Which ended up injuring him

The Duke
3 years ago

Shifting…..new rules…..blah blah blah…….reached point of diminishing returns

Kudos to baseball for virtually snuffing out the shift – the royals are about to put the final nail in that coffin

jcouch
3 years ago

They used this shift last night against Corey Seager and he ripped it down the opposite field line which probably would have been a triple if he didn’t hurt his hamstring while running to second. Had to come out of the game. They also used it on a few other lefties during the game if I remember correctly.

Shirtless George Brett
3 years ago
Reply to  jcouch

They used this shift last night against Corey Seager and he ripped it down the opposite field line which probably would have been a triple if he didn’t hurt his hamstring while running to second.

Sure but you have to remember that nothing happens in a vacuum. The KC pitcher missed his spot badly (catcher wanted it basically in the dirt, it was belt high) and wound up hanging a 2-0 curve to Seager.

That play was much more on the pitcher than the shift they employed.

Last edited 3 years ago by Shirtless George Brett