The Three Batter Minimum Rule Barely Matters
The concept of one-out pitchers suggests a kind of dystopian future for baseball. Generic Matchup Righty Number One (let’s call him Adam Cimber for the sake of this sentence) comes in to get the first out of an inning. He’s replaced by Adam Kolarek to get a lefty, then Adam Ottavino to get another righty, and then, look, I’m out of Adams, but maybe Adam Wainwright was the starter?
In any case, it’s hard to imagine a more boring inning, a more surefire way to get Johnny and Jane Millennial to change the channel to Fortnite or American Gladiators or whatever it is the kids like these days. That, more or less, is the theory behind MLB’s newest rule change, a three batter minimum for relief pitchers that will go into effect for the 2020 season. The rule requires a pitcher to face three batters, or pitch to the end of the half-inning, with some exceptions for injuries.
There’s only one problem with that narrative: that all-Adam inning doesn’t exist much in the majors, even without a three batter minimum. In fact, the one-out relief specialist just isn’t much of a role in baseball anymore. I investigated the numbers to find out which teams would be most affected. To my surprise, essentially none of them were.
First, let’s talk methodology. I looked at every relief appearance that fit a few general rules. First, the pitcher had to face two or fewer batters. Next, there had to be a plate appearance that occurred after their exit but in the same half-inning — if they were on the mound when the last out was recorded, they didn’t count. Finally, it had to be before September 1. We want to look at baseball as it’s generally played, not baseball as it was played in September — particularly given the changing rules for expanded rosters. This might miss a few situations — the new pitcher picks off a runner, for example — but it broadly covers everything. First, a leaderboard of which pitchers were short-timers most often:
| Name | Appearances |
|---|---|
| Oliver Pérez | 19 |
| Andrew Chafin | 15 |
| Alex Claudio | 15 |
| Tyler Olson | 13 |
| Andrew Miller | 12 |
| Kyle Ryan | 12 |
| Adam Kolarek | 11 |
| Jace Fry | 11 |
| Ryan Buchter | 10 |
| Matt Grace | 10 |
Alright, Oliver Pérez might need to find a new job in 2020; on the other hand, he also made 48 appearances that don’t fall into this framework, so maybe not. But for the most part, there’s no one on a roster solely to get one or two batters out. There are pitchers who do it from time to time, sure; as long as opposite-handed pitchers are at a disadvantage, managers will try to optimize their matchups.
But 21 appearances of Olly Pérez doesn’t figure meaningfully into the sum total of all the baseball played this year. There were only 489 appearances that fit these criteria last season. There were 2,190 games in my sample, which means that a now-disallowed short-stint reliever figured into about a quarter of last year’s contests. Budget two minutes for the extra pitching change, and that’s around 30 seconds saved per game. Not exactly getting that millennial audience back, now, are we?
But maybe averaging across the whole league misses the point. What if some teams are abusing the role, bogging down a few select markets? Let’s look at the leaderboard again, but this time break it down by team:
| Team | Appearances |
|---|---|
| Indians | 42 |
| Nationals | 31 |
| Cubs | 30 |
| Cardinals | 28 |
| Diamondbacks | 27 |
| White Sox | 25 |
| Dodgers | 25 |
| Rays | 24 |
| Reds | 24 |
| Phillies | 20 |
| Brewers | 18 |
| Athletics | 18 |
| Padres | 18 |
| Braves | 17 |
| Tigers | 16 |
| Mets | 16 |
| Blue Jays | 15 |
| Rockies | 15 |
| Royals | 14 |
| Orioles | 10 |
| Twins | 10 |
| Marlins | 10 |
| Mariners | 8 |
| Angels | 6 |
| Giants | 6 |
| Pirates | 5 |
| Rangers | 4 |
| Yankees | 3 |
| Red Sox | 3 |
| Astros | 1 |
Okay, yeah, still nothing. If the Indians play an average opponent, the rule saves 0.42 pitching changes per game. If they play the Nationals, it’s just over half a change per game. We’re not talking about the indelible fabric of baseball; just an occasional minute in a game measured in hours.
Of course, even if the rule isn’t a big time saver, it could still make sense if it’s interesting strategically. Will getting rid of these (mostly) left-handed relievers lead to interesting strategic binds?
Yesterday, Sam Miller approximated the impact on Pérez by walking through his game log and approximating how he would fare against a changed batter mix (more righties, fewer lefties). While I wrote this article having missed Sam’s yesterday (sorry, Sam!), I kind of wish I hadn’t — his approach is more intuitive. I took a different tack; rather than break down each individual batter, I set out to create a reasonable upper bound for how much this rule change might affect a team’s win percentage.
For each relief appearance, I looked at the reliever who threw, then took the weak side of his platoon splits and compared it to the strong side to simulate not getting a handedness advantage. This probably over-penalizes teams; most of these specialist relievers are used for short bursts because they’re truly terrible against opposite-handed batting, and it’s likely that the team could find someone who is better overall if they were forced to play the weak side of the platoon.
But we’re looking for a ceiling, and I think this definition works for that. Armed with the penalty to wOBA for each pitcher, I took their average leverage index. From there, wOBA can be converted into runs, and runs into wins, so we can come up with an upper bound estimate for the change in scoring due to these new rules.
Let’s take Perez as an example. Let’s say he had a game where he pitched to a single batter with a leverage index of 2. His wOBA against righties was 94 points higher than it was against lefties last year. To work out how many runs this cost the Indians in expectation, we can simply divide the wOBA by a constant to convert it into runs. We can then multiply by leverage, because the 10 runs to a win conversion you do in your head is leverage-agnostic. It works out to a 1.6% (percentage point) decrease in win probability for the pitching team. Then we just add up every appearance in the same way.
As you might expect, the Indians stand to lose the most in this methodology. But even then, the top five teams aren’t affected that significantly:
| Team | Gross Wins Lost |
|---|---|
| Indians | 0.46 |
| Phillies | 0.21 |
| Rays | 0.17 |
| Mets | 0.15 |
| Cubs | 0.15 |
| Tigers | 0.15 |
| Dodgers | 0.15 |
| Cardinals | 0.14 |
| Royals | 0.14 |
| Nationals | 0.12 |
There are lots of fuzzy parts in my math; the platoon advantages could be better regressed, or a more realistic estimate for new playing time distributions created instead of my arbitrary handedness penalty. But the point is, the numbers are tiny. In aggregate, it simply doesn’t matter much for any given team. And that’s an upper bound estimate — in all likelihood, teams will simply pivot away from players with such extreme platoon splits in the future.
In fact, that pivoting is actually the most interesting thing going on here. At the major league level, the competitive environment won’t change. Teams will either use their lefties for an extra batter or roster fewer lefties and more righties. In either case, it won’t matter much.
But while things don’t matter at the aggregate level, they absolutely do at the individual level. Perez, for example, might be out of baseball next year. Teams will have less incentive to sign and develop deception-first relievers who profile as specialists. Prospect LOOGY’s are already rare, but they will likely go extinct as a result of this rule change.
So in the end, is it worth it? Honestly, I can see arguments from both sides. It’s a tiny change that won’t affect competitive balance but will save a few minutes every couple games. You’ll definitely notice it the first time it happens, but it might fade into the background after that, because teams let pitchers face bad platoon matchups all the time; this simply tilts things a little more in the batting team’s favor.
But from a theoretical standpoint, I dislike how inelegant the rule is. For a narrow benefit (30 seconds and some tiny sliver of runs per game), the league is junking up the rulebook. And not with something like a slide rule, where you’re not allowed to headhunt, either — with an arbitrary constraint on a central rule of baseball — whoever you want to pitch can pitch as long as they haven’t already appeared in the game.
So next year, the first time you see a big spot where a specialist reliever doesn’t come in, by all means marvel at it. But by June, you will have forgotten, and baseball will roll on just like it always has, only with a new flourish in the rules where none previously existed.
Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.
This is a great rule. Constant pitching changes at the ends of games is torture.
I think it’s more quite frankly that there were constant pitching changes all thru games- and not just at the end of the games.
That’s an interesting bit to look at, actually. That would be the intuitive conclusion, that one out appearances are highly concentrated and occur mostly towards the ends of games. Such a thing could make it seem like games are dragging as a result.
Is it true?
Did you read the article? This doesn’t actually happen very often. The data are right there for you.
30 seconds saved per game is a lot of time.
I doubt a late game pitching change costs an average of 2 min and that we are limited to just 1 change we are eliminating.
How many times have I suffered through constant “pickoff attempts” that allow a RP to get warm? There’s also the whole ritual of the change, standing on the top step indicating you are about to come out, the (potentially slow) walk to the mound… 2 min is short. This also discounts the fact that it’s often a critical spot and the best left handed batter coming up.
This rule is also part of expanding rosters to 26, not a roster size that was available in 2019. This change made adding a specialist the most likely option.
I would also argue that roster size is more fundamental to baseball because it allows for more matchups and specialists.
except that MLB is also capping off the pitchers at 13. The 26th man for a lot of teams will have to be a position player.
I know that’s what the article suggests but I feel 30 seconds per game is actually pretty significant especially when we consider that it will be a much bigger savings in games that are actually impacted.
Baseball fans freak out when the game length goes up 5 minutes and this will take back around 10% of that.
Small changes that don’t noticeably change the game are exactly the right sorts of moves in my opinion.
I think the September piece is even bigger. It’s about 2 fewer changes every 3 games. So in a 3 game series you have an average of 80 seconds per game shaved off.
It’s unclear, without specialists could relievers, on average, generally pitch more per outing?
I think it’s very possible. Think we’ll be going back to more how things were pre Tony Larussa.
September and the playoffs are where we will really feel an improvement. Should be interesting toward the end of next year.
September for sure- not just this but also the rosters only going up to 28 with 14 pitchers max.
Watching the Rays in the ALDS…
I think teams have themselves to thank for this. If the Brewers in 2018 game 5 don’t pull the frankly stunt they did- I don’t think we have this rule.
I also think September is going to totally change between this and only 28 guys instead of 40. No more 15+ men bullpens where 8+ are used in a game.
Also think the bigger rule change this year is something rarely talked about on here- the change for the pitcher IL back from 10 to 15. THAT is going to have a much larger impact IMO.
Yep, the ability to send a pitcher down or to IL him for 10 days meant that quite often you could send the number 5 starter down or to the IL and he’d never miss a start. Similarly, no team carried more than one long reliever, because the single long reliever would go down the day after his use, and you’d replace him with the guy who would have been your number 2 long reliever. If you needed a long reliever again in the next few days, you just DL the second guy, and you can call number 1 back up early.
Effectively the short DL/downtime gave bullpens 2-3 extra roster slots which resulted in lots of additional pitching changes.
Yeah. I think so many folks are so fixated on the 3 batter rule that they’re completely ignoring the 10/15 day change. I think that’s going to have a far greater impact.
Sam Miller literally wrote this article on ESPN yesterday…
Thanks for pointing this out! I totally missed Sam’s article yesterday, but I’ve updated the article to mention his and explain where our methodology differs.
With this topic it seems like there’s quite a few different ways you could approach it.
That’s fair, the only thing that made me comment this was that both articles were centered around Oliver Perez, in a way (although Miller’s far more prominently).
Ha yeah I was amazed by that and then I tried to think of other people who most make me think LOOGY, and yeah, I’ve got nothing.
30 seconds per game does matter. It’s not just 30 seconds spread out over the course of the whole game, which nobody would notice. They come in 2 minute chunks, every 4 games. And in September, when there are pennant races going on, it’s much worse. So much worse, that you excluded the data altogether so as not to skew the overall results. Maybe it’s every 2 games, rather than every 4 games. But it would make a difference. The negative feeling of seeing a manager make 3 pitching changes in one inning of a close game creates enough of a negative feeling that it sticks in peoples’ minds for a long time, which might be why it’s less common than most people might think.
Think of it like fecal matter. If I could snap my fingers and all fecal matter was removed from all bathrooms in the world, then maybe we all would encounter 4 grams less of fecal matter per year. Which is so small and occurs in many tiny amounts of micrograms at a time, nobody would notice. But if you encounter all 4 grams at once, on your hand, after touching the bathroom faucet, that’s a pretty big deal.
“And in September, when there are pennant races going on, it’s much worse. So much worse, that you excluded the data altogether so as not to skew the overall results. ”
In September, it was so much worse… how much of that was that teams could expand their rosters to 40 players (now only 28)?
Sharp points! Nice.
Sounds like a job for Thanos!
I don’t have any data to back it up, but I remember significantly more one or two out relievers in the playoffs
i think the one or two batters only was an issue more of the past. i remember the yankees getting mike myers just to neutralize david ortiz. he pitched in 62 games for the yankees in 2006, and only accumulated 30.2 innings. Its a waste of a roster spot imo and i think most teams figured this out over the years. bullpens are also quite different nowadays.
Thanks for this article. It’s useful to see that the effect is relatively small. I wonder, though, is it more pronounced in the postseason? It certainly *feels* that way, and IMO the length-of-game/pace-of-play arguments have extra validity when a playoff game goes past midnight on the east coast. Thanks again.
I think dovetailing off of that- September. So in this article- 489 short appearances start of season thru end of August in 2190 games. September had 160 short appearances in 239 games.
So normal season 0.223 per game- about 1 every 4.5 games.
September 0.669 per game- about 2 every 3 games.
Lots of things make post-season baseball games take longer. We could do without the extended pregame nonsense, and of course we daren’t cut a commercial or two. There’s probably 15 minutes of filler that doesn’t exist in the regular season that I’d rather remove before we go changing the actual baseball itself … let alone the 162 regular season games also.
The article also misses the cases where a LOOGY comes in, gets the last batter or two of the inning, and then exits. Yes, while that is technically a legal move now, teams won’t always make the pitching change now if they know the LOOGY is forced to stay for 3 batters if he lets a runner on. So there’s bound to be a few more cases of saved pitching changes from that too.
that’s a great point. And I don’t think it’d just be a few more cases quite frankly.
Good point, you could construct an upper bound on that that by seeing how many of these guys other appearances would have been “short” if they’d not gotten an out and had come out at the same spot in the batting order.
Except now they are choosing to purposely have a poorer pitching match-up. So, you’d have to balance the risk that they don’t get their outs against the risk of a less favorable match-up.
Out of curiosity I examined a season for one pitcher I particularly remember, the 2015 version of LOOGY Randy Choate of the Cardinals. For the season, he made 71 appearances, and pitched a total of 27.1 innings.
He faced only one batter in 51 of his 71 appearances, and in 36 of those he faced only only one batter and exited before the end of the inning.
Choate had 18 one-batter outings in which he failed to retire the hitter (which means he did retire the batter in his other 33 one-batter outings); for a LOOGY who’s used that much I think you’d expect better than a .353 OBP against.
I like the new rule, but like my idea better: No more than 2 mid-inning pitching changes per team in a 9 inning game (you get one more for extra innings).
Mine was to limit each team to one pitcher who would be excepted from the three-batter-minimum rule. After that, all subsequent pitchers would be forced to face three batters at a minimum.
That way, you still allow the LOOGYs to exist while at the same time eliminating those games with constant pitching changes.
I am most interested in a pitcher who comes in, allows back to back walks and can’t be taken out when he clearly has nothing that day. You HAVE to leave him in to face one more batter? That sucks
aw my arm! pull me coach!
Go to 15 day IL. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.
They can’t be day to day?
I doubt it because then you have managers gaming the hell out of it.
So? Get better pitchers.
That’s a stupid answer lol. Every great reliever has a bad day and sometimes you just don’t have it.
For me, I actually like that.
Why? What about it do you like?
Just shorten the time that mid-inning relievers get to warm up. One minute from when the manager exits the dugout, the new pitcher must be ready for action. Managers wouldn’t even go to the mound, which is useless theater, and the built in penalty would further reduce pitching changes. But you’d be allowed to do it, so you wouldn’t be fundamentally changing the game.
Yes, I’ve never understood why mid-inning relievers get to warm up for 2+ minutes on the field. They were already warm when they entered. No other sport stops so that a substitute can practice a little bit on the field in the middle of a game.
The mound is not a totally uniform surface in any park after some pitchers have been working it. This is also a warmup for the catcher, “oh, yeah, that’s what his slider looks like.” But, yeah, maybe 4 pitches?
Or we could just enforce the rule about batters staying in the box. That would save 5-10 minutes every game imo.
How many times can I (try to) upvote this? This is an issue (dare I call it a ” problem”?) I think needs true attention.
For a while, it was being reported that players were getting warning letters for being out of the box. But it seems that those never went anywhere.
It’s a good rule. As Ben says, we probably won’t notice. As Ben says it’s not going to appreciably speed up games but there is no magic bullet to speeding up games. It’s probably ten things and all ten of those don’t begin to dent all the time wasted on replays.
Replays are offensive to me in every way – I think they should only exist a) if umps themselves feel like they want to re-look b) for plays at first base where there are clear and multiple angles and decisions can be made quickly and c) home run and foul ball calls (again only by the umps )
sorry but a play at home means far more than a play at 1b.
It does but there really aren’t that many plays at home, the replays are often called wrong or inconclusive and most importantly they ruin the fun at the ballpark.
They’re often called wrong? what?
Also they’re far more important than a play at 1b. A run is literally at stake.
“but there is no magic bullet to speeding up games”
Not that I’m going to advocate for these sorts of change, but I suspect:
5 balls = walk and 2 strikes = strikeout would speed up games. Or a 2-strike foul ball is a strikeout. Do one or both of these and I bet we can get games down to like 60 minutes 🙂
Or we could just stop playing baseball and make it 0 minutes. HOORAY for millennials!
Wtf are you doing on this site just curious. I’m asking for a friend
Replays are important because we can all see if the play was correctly called at home. But, because of
that, I’d limit it to 30 seconds. If you haven’t gotten a conclusive look by then, neither will the fans at home. In acknowledgment of the added intensity fans place on postseason games, I’d extend to 90 seconds there.
I’d make it where the home plate umpire goes to the headset and not the umpire who made the call. A guy running in from RF takes way too much time….
Why not bypass the on field replay and have a dedicated central team available with replay decisions when called uoon
Yeah. Also would be nice to have umpire mic’d up so he could announce it(like football and even hockey have).
Andy, that’s how it is done.
not really. the umpire who made the call and the crew chief run in from the field to get on the headphones(to presumably communicate with NYC on the call)….
maybe what they need is those mic’s like the NFL has with all the umpires so they can communicate without running in
Reviews take time, but are beneficial to the game
So what is to stop a team from declaring a relief pitcher is “injured”? Is MLB going to force the team to place him on the 15 day injured list? What if said RP is getting rocked. Sorry, can’t replace him until he pitches to 3 batters or the half inning is over? Sounds like a recipe for injuring pitchers to me.
I believe that was the plan, yes. To stop teams from their faking BS.
And a recipe for injuring pitchers? A pitcher is too fragile to pitch to 3 batters? in a row? If that’s the case, he probably doesn’t need to be in baseball….
I’d like to see this same analysis but looking at postseason baseball. Does this rule apply in the postseason?
yes, it’s for all the time.
Thanks Ben, as you say, it won’t have much impact on game length one way or another. It appears to affect low and high spending teams equally (good thing) but will have unintended consequences (known and unknown).
It reminds me of the chatter last year about MiLB “below minimum wage” and “below living wage” salaries. The known unintended consequence was fewer minor league teams and games (being proposed now) in the U.S. Will this rule result in different types of pitchers filling relief spots 10-13?
I think so. Instead of the specialized butter knife we’ll get more of a swiss army knife.
Good analysis but I’m guessing that MLB knows all of this, so why did they make the change when the results are so minimal as to be invisible? What do they know that you don’t?
I think they realize that saving any time at all when the change doesn’t really hurt the product or any specific team is a good one. I also think they are going to keep pushing more Pace changes, which I support. This is just the first. 30 seconds here, 30 seconds there, and pretty soon it’s real time. Now, I need them to stop starting playoffs at 8:30 EST.
I assumed they were bluffing trying to extract some concession from the union and am dismayed that they appear to actually be going forward with this dumb-ass rule. It is such a hamfisted way to address pace of play, an issue that already occupies way too much of the commissioner’s brain. Structurally it’s easily the most radical change to the game since the DH.
I don’t mind the pitcher facing one hitter situation, where I lose favour for it is the two minute gap between pitchers. Remove that gap but give the incoming pitcher a couple of warm up throws and it won’t be a problem…
With the bullpens in the OF, how can it not take 2 minutes? That’s the rub.
The Bullpen Cart!
Can you guys do an article on the comeback of the 15 day IL for pitchers, I think that’s a far larger story(that folks aren’t really talking about much at all).
This “rule” is a joke. Here’s why:
1) Managers nowadays seem to have settled on the R-L-R-L-R-L-R-L-R lineup construction, or something very similar where there are rarely more than two batters of the same handedness in a row. Thus the recent demise of the LOOGY.
2) Situation: Runners on 1st and 3rd, one out, top of the ninth. Defensive team leading by one. New pitcher can’t find the plate, walks 2 guys on 8 pitches, none of them close. Game tied. And this rule forces him to pitch to one more batter when it’s most likely he’ll walk the third batter and cost his team the game? Sorry, no! And I’ll tell you what’s going to start happening. Guys are going to be tweaking hamstrings, elbows, and ankles just to get a new pitcher in. We see this with college football already. I swear, there are more minor injuries to stop the clock in the last five minutes of college football games than in any other random five minutes of the game.
3) And what happens when this rule inevitably costs a team a one-game playoff game? Or worse, a World Series game? Because it will sooner or later, just like the ball always finds the fielder with no experience at a position.
And for what? To save a minute in a three hour game? Seriously? Should we give all the so-called fans a participation trophy for staying until the game is over too? Or better yet, a binky? And then what next, seven inning games? Extra innings decided by a home run derby?
How about making pitchers throw the damn ball? Make them deliver a pitch in all situations in 20 seconds or less, in ALL situations. It ain’t that difficult. First and second offense? Add 1 ball to the count. Third offense by the same pitcher? Ejection from the game. That’ll light a fire under these 30+ seconds between pitches guys.
But the real elephant in the room is TV commercials. At two minutes each per half inning, that’s at least 17 two minute breaks where teams really only need a one minute break. So that’s 17 extra minutes per game just because of TV. And those commercial breaks are three minutes each in the playoffs, so that’s 34 extra minutes for a playoff game.
Leave the game alone!!
keep hearing this 8 balls 1st 2 batters faced….
Exactly how many times did that happen in 2019? If ever.
And your faking injury thing- the pitcher automatically gets placed on the IL.
Like I said- the teams are the ones to blame. You want to blame something- blame Craig Counsell and the BS Stunt he did in game 5 of the LCS. Blame teams who went to 15 man bullpens in September and would use 8-9 relievers in a game.
If I understand the rule correctly, Craig could do it again. His reliever was Miley who remained in for many batters.
no, his “starter” would have had to throw to 2 more batters.
There is a balance to what they’re trying to accomplish. Not everyone realizes that, and that’s why I agree with a lot of your points and the sentiment behind them. It’s frustrating to see baseball change rules for a population of fans that are already telling you they don’t have the attention span for your product. But on the other hand, I certainly don’t want to see games get any longer either. I always get excited for BOS-NYY games but they often are 4.5 hour marathons that usually have me scrolling my phone by the 7th inning unless it’s a close game.
I think the issue is the lack of constant action, not just the length of games. And the increase in PAs that end in a BB, SO, HR or lazy flyout have made games feel more like home run derbies and less like games with any defense to be found. But I don’t want some sloppy rule put in place that fundamentally changes the way the game is played like 5 balls for a walk or something drastic. I would simply attack all the in-game promotion nonsense that takes away from the action before you go making rules that stop making it feel like baseball.
This 3 batter rule though doesn’t fundamentally change the way the game is played and it doesn’t stop making it feel like baseball…
Anyone care to look at roster sizes and substitution and DL rules from the late 19th/early 20th century. There’s a reason those pitchers went every four days and routinely pitched complete games, often even on long extra inning games.
This is simply requiring something a bit more like real old-time baseball.
it’s requiring something more like early 80’s baseball. Before Tony LaRussa.
Check again with the late 19th century… back then forget every four days– you’d have starters starting and completing almost every game and then coming in in relief in ones they didn’t start.
1883 Charley Radbourn for example. He started 68 games (Completing 66 of them) and then came in as a reliever in 8 more. the other two starters combined for 30 starts
right, unless they make MAJOR changes to the game, the time of a game play will generally be in the same area. if you want to up ratings, doing some gimmicky move like re-doing batter order to be entirely situational (ie no set lineup) so you get mike trout vs justin verlander in game deciding moments, or shorting the game, these could work. The problem is the core fanbase would lose it and thats where baseball gets substantial revenue from.
Why is it justified to exclude postseason stats? Postseason if anything is more important to this not less.
I’d have rather had a rule of maximum number of pitchers on the active roster at any time. The problem isn’t so much the one-batter pitcher as it is the eight-man bullpen that permits constant substitutions.
that’s in place now- with the 26 man rosters, the most a team can have is 13 pitchers.
I do think what will help with that going forward is that the 10 day/15 day IL will prevent a team from using a guy 1 day for 2 innings, sending him to the farm the next day, and then IL’ing someone else with a bogus injury the following day. That IL’d guy will be gone for 15 days. That’s a big change.
13 is too many, in my opinion. Eight man bullpens are just too much. I agree with you on the 10/15 IL.
I do think we’re going to see some going 14/12 quite frankly.
For sure that’s not good. We don’t need 4-3 nine-inning games with 13 pitchers.
more of a symbolic rule change; however, I also dig it. Also, if you can’t get more than one batter out, gtfo.
I am more interested in how this affects the postseason. Has anyone looked at that?
To me, the times you will notice it more is in the playoffs/late in the season. Those games are always long, and I don’t even mind them being long, but I personally prefer not allowing as many pitching changes.
It is not necessary that this rule saves any time. If we assume that RHB have better odds of getting a hit off of LHP and the opposite is also true, the likely outcome would be in the instances that would be affected, and save a few stray minutes, would also result on average of a little bit more offense, increasing the time of the game again due to another batter, or two or three, coming to the plate, when a pitcher with a better matchup may have been previously available.
I personally believe that looking at this rule as a way to save time is a fallacy, due to the above. I personally think that the rule is more attuned to provide slightly more offense, thus making the game more exciting in the process. It also removes some instances of the most boring part of baseball, pitching changes. Overall, excitement levels is what this rule impacts more than time.
Like the rule or not, I take exception to the notion that they are junking the rule book. In fact, there is a batter minimum in play RIGHT NOW …. any reliever who enters a game has to face one batter. This simply extends the figure from one to three.
I think your argument was slightly disingenuous, as you (admittedly) ruled out the games that make your theory look bad. Why do that?
Also, this is directed both to Ben and everyone who comments with “it’s only going to save X time. What’s the point? Don’t you like baseball?” Do you think the people who watched baseball 60 years ago, when the average game was just over 2 hours, like baseball less than people today? If judgement of fandom is based on how long a game you’re prepared to sit through, then the fans of the past were very poor fans indeed.
Also, this idea that because an idea won’t make much of a difference = let’s not bother doing it, are part of the reason we’ve got such long games with so much awful downtime. Given there’s no one specific way of making games quicker, why shouldn’t MLB try different ideas to make them slightly shorter? How many of you are desperate to sit through more pitching change-mandated commercial breaks?
Sorry if this has already been asked/answered, but what’s to stop a pitcher from being ejected for “delaying the game” (6.02c8) before facing three batters?
The main issue is that there is no 6.02(c)8.
page 78 of the 2019 rule book, not sure about 2020 though. “(8) Intentionally delay the game by throwing the ball to players other than the catcher, when the batter is in position, except in an attempt to retire a runner. PENALTY: If, after warning by the umpire, such delaying action is repeated, the pitcher shall be removed from the game.”
Focussing on the three batter rule ignores the compounding effect it has on the other rules proposed for 2020.
I’m think the rule is more about roster management than game length.
Saving time isn’t the real impact but the fact that it effectively places a floor of effectiveness on rostered relievers. This, on top of the return of the 15 injury list, the 13 putcher limit, and the codification of two-way player use means MLB ideal HQ is getting into roster management regulation.
The pure LOOGY (or their righty counterparts) of days past tended to be either older players hanging on thanks to guile and the platoon advantage (Oliver Perez) or younger guys with less effective repertoires against opposite-side hitters (Tyler Olson).
Both have declined of late, as pointed out above, because active roster spots have become more valuable wity the increase of bullpen innings and the rise of the opener. So there is little reason to limit reliever usage for time management.
Something else might be at play.
Maybe it is that, absent the three hitter rule it would be logical to use strong-armed utility or platoon players as one-out pitchers, doubling up on the backend roster players. We’re already seen an increasing use of position players as pitchers in blowouts and not-yet blowouts some MLB may be worried about position players pitching.
In that respect, MLB might be getting ahead of a trend with the increased attention to two-way players post-Ohtani, which might see substandard pitchers regularly toeing the mound, counting on the platoon advantagd and short stints to get outs.
How much of a problem this might be is debatable but there is a (small?) potential for injury on both sides.
I’m not sure either rule is wise because MLB putting limits on rostered player usage is a slippery slope that can lead to things like banning shifts and four player outfields. There’s already too much player straightjacketing in bullpen roles, as is, and more controls aren’t helpful.
Two-way players aside, the three hitter limit is problematic because all relievers have bad days and forcing them to stay out when they don’t have it helps nobody.
This is not good.
Not Sure this is good math here. Sure planned 1 batter stints aren’t that common but I would guess many of them are not planned but emergencies.
Most of the time a pitcher exits after one or two there probably is serious trouble. This means the forced third batter will often come when a pitcher gets shelled. This might lead to more intentional walks for example.
I’m not against the rule but I don’t think you can discount it thay easily.
A LOOGY is absolutely a planned thing.
It’d be interesting to hear how many of the 459 “illegal” pitching changes- the pitcher didn’t give up a baserunner.
A loogy is a planned Thing but what is when a relievers comes up with traffic and then gets knocked around?
I did a quick study of pitchers who pitched fewer innings than games appeared in. This is not quite comparing apples to apples but gives an idea of how many specialists have held a place on a major league roster. The parameter that I set was a minimum of 400 appearances and I found only one pitcher who ended his career before 2000 to qualify. That was Tony Fossas. Since 2000 I found 32 pitchers who met this criterion. Surprisingly, 15 of them are right-handed, but the two LOOGY’s who lead the field are Mike Myers, 883 games – 541 innings, and Javier Lopez, 839 games – 533 innings. Before 2000 even the closers, there were not many who just closed, averaged well above one inning per appearance. Even Eckersley, after he became strictly a closer, was well above that threshold. In 1987, his first season in the pen he recorded 33 saves while throwing 115 innings in 54 games
I’d be interested to see the inning breakdown for when this type of relief appearances occur. I picture myself watching a baseball game, just after 9pm on the east coast, zoning out/falling asleep on my couch during innings 5-7, which are only made worse when you have plenty of relief pitching changes/more commercial breaks. I wonder if saving 30 seconds during this stretch would have more of a demand impact than a general 30-second decrease for the game? I’d consider the demand for a game (especially for a TV audience) fairly non-linear over the course of the game, being relatively high for the first few innings, dropping off in the middle, then picking up towards the end (if the game is close) or staying constant (if the game is a blowout).
Just something to consider… I’m not sure 30-seconds or a minute even at the low-demand juncture of the game shifts demand that much…
I’m going to watch baseball regardless, so I’m not personally in favor of a rule which limits strategy. Enforcing that batters must stay in the box seems to be the biggest time saver in my opinion, but MLB apparently has no plans to do that. I can see why MLB is implementing this rule, for casual viewers and whatnot. I do agree, it’s a bad look to make three pitching changes in an inning, especially in the postseason (the sport’s grandest stage), but if I care about my team winning, I don’t mind.
Like others in the comments have said, the biggest rule change this season is going to be the pitcher IL going to 15 days.
A solution in search of a problem!
Maybe I am weird, but if a Baseball game Is close then I won’t get board regardless of the length! So I just don’t get the need for these changes. Baseball is a sport where the more you know the more enjoyable it is. Other sports less so. I have always felt it’s that need for knowledge that slows the fandom of others. Not the length of games. Knowing how good is each player at the various skills really helps you enjoy baseball. That’s less important in basketball or football.