The True Arrival of Jose Berrios

Let me set two arbitrary thresholds for you. One is going to be 25% strikeouts. Nice, clean, familiar dividing line. The other is going to be 20 innings pitched, as a starter. That’s not very many innings, but it’s probably enough to show whether you’re a strikeout starter or not.

Between 2008 and 2016, the Dodgers had 17 pitcher-seasons meet those criteria. That’s a lot! The Indians are in second, with 11. Then the Nationals had 10, and the Tigers had nine, and so on. The Orioles had one. The Rockies had one. The Twins had zero. They’re the only team with zero, and this just further demonstrates a point we’ve all understood seemingly forever: The Twins haven’t collected strikeout starters. It’s been a while since Francisco Liriano, and it’s been even longer since Johan Santana.

This is one of the reasons why there’s been so much hype around Jose Berrios. Berrios, last year, had a chance to make an impression. I suppose he did make an impression, but it wasn’t the one anyone wanted. The winter afforded the opportunity to hit the reset button. Berrios has gotten a chance of late to make a *new* impression, a better impression. This time, he’s succeeding. This time, Berrios is pitching like he ought to pitch. Don’t look now, but the Twins have a quality starter.

I don’t want to dwell too much on 2016’s miserable cup of coffee. Berrios struggled to the tune of an 8+ ERA, but it just never made very much sense. Look at this table, covering Berrios’ performance against advanced competition since 2015. Anything stand out to you?

Jose Berrios, 2015 – 2017
Year Level Pitches Strike% Contact% SwS% K-BB%
2015 Double-A 1367 65% 75% 12% 19%
2015 Triple-A 1141 65% 74% 13% 23%
2016 Triple-A 1548 67% 73% 12% 21%
2016 MLB 1115 58% 80% 9% 5%
2017 Triple-A 554 67% 78% 11% 20%
2017 MLB 305 66% 78% 11% 23%

With every opportunity but one, Berrios has thrown a whole bunch of strikes. With every opportunity but one, Berrios has generated plenty more strikeouts than walks. It should go without saying that there’s no challenge quite like working in the major leagues, especially for the first time, but you’d never expect that kind of drop-off. Numbers from the upper minors tend to be suggestive of numbers in the majors. Berrios came apart. Most players don’t. After a while, I have to imagine it all snowballed.

When you look at 2017 Berrios, it fits. In the majors, he’s started just three games, but the strikes are there, and the whiffs are there, and so Berrios looks like he’s supposed to look. This is a pitch that he throws. It’s a really good weapon.

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Berrios didn’t recently develop that breaking ball or anything, but now he gets to use it more if he wants to, in more advantageous counts. You can probably see with your eyes that the breaking ball has all kinds of lateral movement. It doesn’t have so much in the way of drop, but by the major three pitch characteristics, that breaking ball is a near twin of Yu Darvish’s slider. It’s also similar to the curveball thrown by the late Jose Fernandez. It’s a pitch with the potential to terrorize opposing hitters, and when Berrios is actually in command of his game, he hardly needs a reliable changeup.

As is often the case, Berrios needs his fastball to be there if he wants to unlock the other stuff. With that in mind, here’s where his fastballs have gone, in each of the last two years:

Berrios this year has thrown more fastballs in the zone, including a few more higher up. There are signs here of increased aggressiveness, in an attempt to get ahead and stay ahead. Now, I don’t think Berrios was ever necessarily trying to nibble. But let’s watch him throw some fastballs in particular. Here’s a regular fastball from 2016:

Here’s a regular fastball from last week:

Before getting further into Berrios’ mechanics, I’d like to say that some part of his 2016 struggles was almost certainly psychological. It’s not easy to get beat up for the first time, and Berrios even now is only 22. There was also speculation during the summer that Berrios was tipping his pitches, and although that’s always a tough thing to prove or disprove, it’s there. It’s a theory. I don’t think Berrios erased his 2016 problems through ordinary mechanical tweaks alone.

But we might as well talk about what’s there. Berrios is a slightly different guy. One change is that Berrios now raises his hands above his head early in his delivery. I don’t know what effect that could have, but it might be part of an effort to have Berrios slow things down. Then, if you pay attention to Berrios’ feet, you can see a significant adjustment — Berrios has moved over on the rubber. Last year, he came set on the extreme first-base side. He’s moved to the third-base side. This can mean different things for different pitchers, but Berrios could be more comfortable coming from this angle. For a real explanation, you’d have to talk to him. I think the more important stuff comes later on, anyway.

Two screenshots:

Two screenshots from two different pitches:

The hand with the ball is the same. Berrios’ back leg is the same. But now Berrios is being more aggressive with his glove hand. And Berrios has also changed what he does with his front leg. Instead of his front foot going on a little tour around the mound, Berrios goes in more of a straight line. The knee stays bent at a tighter angle, and there isn’t so much energy trying to pull him off-line. It’s a little thing, but they usually are, with Berrios now having had his delivery a little bit simplified. He still looks like himself, yet a few quirks have been smoothed out.

It could be nothing. They could be innocent tweaks that have little to do with the real explanation. Maybe it comes down to Berrios now just pitching with confidence, and that’s all. There’s no substitute for a player getting to feel like he really belongs. No matter what, this time around, Jose Berrios is making sense. That 2016 stood out in large part because it was bizarre, in no way matching up with the established performance record. Perhaps for that reason alone, we all should’ve expected a rebound. Berrios has rebounded, giving the Twins a starting pitcher worth the effort of tuning in. For the first several weeks, the Twins were successful as more or less the Miguel Sano show. Now Sano’s got some help. The Twins have a strikeout starter. There are elements here to grip onto in what’s becoming a delightfully different season.





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

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Ed_Escobars_Dirty_Sanchez
9 years ago

Looks like he’s moved to the third-base side of the rubber too.

Jackie T.
9 years ago

Did you read the article you’re commenting on?

“Then, if you pay attention to Berrios’ feet, you can see a significant adjustment — Berrios has moved over on the rubber. Last year, he came set on the extreme first-base side. He’s moved to the third-base side.”

southie
9 years ago

Anybody else guess his name was pronounced Berry-ohs and not Bury-os?

BryzMember since 2019
9 years ago
Reply to  southie

It’s neither. Beh-ree-ohs. Like Rios, but with a “beh” at the beginning.

southie
9 years ago
Reply to  Bryz

Not from the broadcasts I’ve watched. At all.

Justin Knox
9 years ago
Reply to  southie

That’s probably because Dick Bremer pronounces it like “burritos” but with a silent t lol.

southie
9 years ago
Reply to  Justin Knox

Ha I think you’re right.

BryzMember since 2019
9 years ago
Reply to  southie

Relying on Dick ‘n’ Bert for anything is a fool’s errand, especially when Bert believes that it’s Ben “Zobrith” and Scott “Cashmere.”

frivoflava29
9 years ago
Reply to  Bryz

Haha for real? I’ve never watched their broadcast but I got free MLBtv this year so now I’m kind of curious.

Baseball Reference has a pronunciation guide and according to them it’s ba-REE-ohs

BryzMember since 2019
9 years ago
Reply to  frivoflava29

I’m willing to admit that ba-REE-ohs sounds virtually the same as what I’ve heard.

bunslow
9 years ago
Reply to  Bryz

Bear-REE-ohs

Swfcdan
9 years ago
Reply to  Bryz

Who cares how his name’s pronounced?

Joshua Miller
9 years ago
Reply to  Swfcdan

Mr. Berrios probably does.

BryzMember since 2019
9 years ago
Reply to  Swfcdan

Often, the person himself/herself cares, swifkdahn.

HuracanGMember since 2017
9 years ago
Reply to  Bryz

As a fellow Puerto Rican, have to say Bryz is 100% right on this one. The correct spelling is Berríos, the stress falls on the second syllable due to the accent on the “i.”

BryzMember since 2019
9 years ago
Reply to  HuracanG

Us Twins fans used the past couple years to figure it out.

bartelsjason
9 years ago
Reply to  southie

Just go with his nickname to be safe; La Maquina= The Machine.

Daniel
9 years ago
Reply to  bartelsjason

There’s only one Machine, and that’s Pujols.

YKnotDisco
9 years ago
Reply to  Daniel

And apparently, he hangs out with Brian Wilson.

csw117
9 years ago
Reply to  YKnotDisco

So did Charles Manson.

YKnotDisco
9 years ago
Reply to  Jetsy Extrano

How irresponsible of you Jet; I suggest a “Warning: Parental Advisory” for these “kids”…

I’m still going with Pujols (BTW), he just happened to have a skin condition at the time. You know, kinda like Michael Jackson.

RonnieDobbs
9 years ago

It is just pitching with greatly increased confidence. I find it odd that people want to be able to point to a mechanical fix as opposed to just giving him credit for going out there and being a more confident competitor. He is doing exactly what he has done for years in the upper minors.

Jackie T.
9 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

Why would you come to a baseball analytics/metrics website to read an article and then comment on that article saying you can’t believe anybody would want to ascribe baseball success to anything besides confidence?

drewcorbMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

He may also have more grit.

The Ghost of Stephen Drews BatMember since 2026
9 years ago
Reply to  drewcorb

First one in, last guy out type of player

John Autin
9 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

Maybe the confidence is tied to mechanical changes that may be essentially cosmetic, but act as a placebo. Anyway, if I were coaching a young pitcher who’d been punched as hard as Berrios was last year, I’d certainly try to give him some minor “fix,” even if nothing truly had to be fixed.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
9 years ago

The change in position on the rubber sticks out like sore thumb. The geometry of the excellent curve ball that he throws shrieks loudly that it should be much more effective from the extreme third base side of the rubber. The angle, working away from the right hand hitter,is enhanced substantially.

Francis C.
9 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

Agreed. To a RHB, he can front door it and make it look like it’s going to hit the batter, lock him up, then catch the inside corner of the plate. Or he can make it look like it’s going to be right down the middle but instead tails away and down and out of the zone for a swing and miss. If he were of the 1st base side of the rubber, the angle would give the batter a real good look at it.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  hineighbor

I love that reaction from Joseph. “It went where?”

Jetsy Extrano
9 years ago
Reply to  hineighbor

That’s not real!

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  Jetsy Extrano

I can’t tell whether Joseph is trying to brace himself for getting hit by the pitch or if he’s just bracing himself to keep from swinging, but it’s a better story the first way.

timprov
9 years ago

LaTroy Hawkins and Torii Hunter have recently joined the Twins’ broadcast occasionally, and both of them have talked extensively about how right-handed batters have a significantly harder time hitting against right-handed pitchers on the third-base side of the rubber. Not sure that necessarily has anything to do with Berrios moving, but they’ve both been working as instructors in the organization as well, so it seems a good way to guess.

hurricanexyzMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  timprov

So here’s a question: given that batters seem to do worse against pitchers who are on the same side of the rubber as their batters’ box, why wouldn’t pitchers move back and forth on the rubber depending on the handedness of the batter? I.e., extreme third-base side when facing a righty, extreme first-base side when facing a lefty? Or at least shift around a little bit. Since they don’t seem to do this there must be some reason why not, but I can’t think what it would be. Having to have two different senses of the strike zone, perhaps? But pitchers change their position on the rubber all the time (between appearances), and I don’t think that’s associated with an immediate loss in command of the strike zone, as far as I know. Something about landing spots on the mound? I’d be curious to hear something about why this doesn’t seem to happen.

BryzMember since 2019
9 years ago
Reply to  hurricanexyz

Some pitchers do change their position. Others don’t, probably just so they don’t have to change their mechanics slightly to account for the slight change in angle towards the mound.

timprov
9 years ago
Reply to  hurricanexyz

“given that batters seem to do worse against pitchers who are on the same side of the rubber as their batters’ box”

I’m not sure that’s true for opposite-hand matchups.

Joshua Miller
9 years ago
Reply to  hurricanexyz

Back in the day I moved from the 1st base side to the 3rd base side like I was playing frogger on RBI baseball.

mgraves
9 years ago

Those screenshots also appear to show that Berrios was opening up with his front shoulder more quickly in 2016.

Francis C.
9 years ago
Reply to  mgraves

Good point. And maybe that “being more aggressive with the glove” is helping keep that shoulder in longer.

BryzMember since 2019
9 years ago

2017 Berrios also looks a little more hunched over. I have no idea if that’s good or bad, but it’s there.