This Is the Best Johnny Cueto We’ve Seen
Remember when Johnny Cueto was viewed as a risk? I mean, he’s a pitcher, of course he’s a risk — all pitchers are risks. But even relative to other pitchers, Cueto was regarded this offseason as a rather large uncertainty. Between his underwhelming second half and ugly postseason with Kansas City, a right elbow that barked multiple times throughout the year, and his heavy workload in 2014 and 2015, expectations were tempered entering the 2016 season, and it seemed like folks were prepared for the possibility of a Cueto decline, or even collapse.
That preparation was for naught. Out of the gate, the Giants are getting peak Cueto. My preferred method of looking at pitcher WAR is using a 50/50 split of FIP-based WAR and RA9-WAR. It’s not perfect, but neither is looking at just one, and we know the ideal mix is somewhere in between. For now, I’m fine with simply splitting the difference. Do that, and this is your current 2016 top five:
- Clayton Kershaw, 5.6 WAR
- Johnny Cueto, 4.0
- Noah Syndergaard, 3.7
- Jake Arrieta, 3.5
- Chris Sale, 3.4
Nobody’s Kershaw. But this year, Cueto’s arguably been the next-best thing. Or at the very least, the next-most valuable. Cueto threw another complete game last night, already his fourth of the season, and this one came against the Rockies. When Cueto’s taken the mound this year, the Giants are 16-2. I don’t think too many folks are still viewing Cueto as an uncertainty.
Environmentally, there couldn’t be much more going in Cueto’s favor, and that’s got to be acknowledged. He spent the first seven years of his career pitching in Cincinnati, a bandbox of a ballpark that works against pitching, and then he moved to the American League, where pitchers are replaced in the batting order by dudes whose only job is to hit. Now, he’s back to facing pitchers, and not only that, he’s facing pitchers in baseball’s most pitcher-friendly stadium. Adding to that, Cueto’s a guy who loves to work around the edges of the zone, and while recently he’s commonly pitched to the likes of Brayan Pena and Salvador Perez, the latter of whom routinely grades among baseball’s worst pitch framers, Cueto this year is enjoying the pleasure of pitching to Buster Posey, who’s currently grading as baseball’s best. He’s also enjoying the pleasure of pitching in front of an elite defense, though he’s long enjoyed that pleasure.
He’s gone from small parks and designated hitters and poor catchers to a favorable home stadium, more easy lineups, baseball’s best catcher, and an excellent defense. Of course, we’ve got adjusted stats to account for most of that, and Cueto’s still in the top-10 in those. If it were that easy to succeed in San Francisco, everybody would do it, and yet no one’s doing it like Cueto.
For one, it sure seems like he’s taking advantage of his new environment. By the metrics, this year’s Giants have had, by far, baseball’s best infield defense. Baseball Info Solutions credits San Francisco’s defense with 39 runs saved on the season; only one other team cracks 20. And along with that, Cueto’s increased his ground-ball rate by more than nine points — the second-largest increase of any qualified pitcher from last season. Cueto’s been a ground-baller in the past, but this is the second-highest rate of his career, and its coinciding with a change in location.
Last season, only Jordan Zimmermann threw a higher rate of pitches in the upper-half of the zone and beyond than Cueto. With all his offspeed pitches and lack of top-end velocity, you might not think of him this way, but Cueto’s recently been one of baseball’s most extreme high-ball pitchers. Not anymore. Going from last year to this year, Cueto’s had one of the five largest shifts toward the bottom of the zone:

Don’t get it twisted — Cueto still likes his high pitch. But there’s been an effort to more often work in the lower half of the zone in San Francisco. The lower half of the zone is where Posey works his receiving magic, and the lower half of the zone is where ground balls are generated, the ones that Brandon Crawford and the rest of the Giants defense routinely turn into outs.
And that relationship between Cueto and the infield defense? It manifests itself not only in quantity, but in quality as well. Among the 133 pitchers with at least 1,000 pitches thrown this season, Cueto’s average exit velocity of 86.8 miles per hour ranks fourth. His grounders have gone just 83.2 mph, also fourth. His two-seam fastball, with which he pounds the inner-half of the plate against right-handed batters, has generated an average exit velocity of 82.2 mph, baseball’s best. It gets swings that look like this:
Oh, yeah. Cueto can help himself out, too.
We’ve long thought of Cueto as something of a contact-manager, given his repeatedly low BABIPs and high strand rates, and now we’ve got the data to support that assumption.
There’s more going on here. Cueto’s going to his slider more often, and he’s truly solving right-handed batters for the first time in his career. He’s running a career-low walk rate and a career-high first-pitch strike rate, evidence that his command is sharper than it’s been in the past. And then he’s still doing all the things that have made him Cueto all along — the masterful mixing of all six pitches, the deception from his many deliveries.
It’s just all clicking right now. You can’t not give credit to Cueto’s surroundings, but you also can’t not give credit to Cueto for using his surroundings to his advantage. Cueto’s looked like an ace in the past, but that went away for a bit. Now, he looks like a better ace than ever before. The Giants are almost certainly going to make the postseason this year. This time, they won’t need Madison Bumgarner to throw 50 innings.
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You mean the Devin Mesoraco and Salvador Perez who have caught 28 of Johnny Cueto’s career 251 starts?? That’s who he commonly pitched to??
Yep, that was supposed to be Brayan Pena. Thanks for reading.
Thanks. I didn’t mean for that to come off so harsh. Keep up the good work.
I guess where the “ugly” postseason is concerned, the Giants chose to look at the ALDS and WS starts more than the road meltdown against the Blue Jays.
Cueto was pretty ugly against Houston, as well. He had a 5.40 ERA & 4.49 FIP for the postseason, so I think it’s fair to say he was not great.
My feeling at the time was that his relationship with perez was a mess and it made him uncomfortable. To work with cueto a catcher needs flexibilty and even humor and perez just didn’t fit him. That was my big concern when the giants got him , because posey seems pretty straitlaced, to put it mildly. But it’s been the complete opposite, they just love each other, cueto always mentions posey in postgame interviews and posey smiles when he talks about cueto.
The best part is he also fun to watch, his fielding, hitting and general quick pitching, slow pitching, Tiant pitching are all very entertaining.
I saw Tiant pitch a lot when he was on the Red Sox and before Cueto got to the Giants I thought that he would be the same idea, but actually they’re very different. Tiant threw a lot more from different angles while with Cueto it’s much more about timing, varying his speeds on pitches and quick-pitching. Tiant also threw a lot more distinctive off-speed pitches (curves, sliders, knuckleballs, and palm balls), while Cueto only has a slider and a basic changeup–it fact, because Cueto varies the speed so much, it sometimes isn’t clear where the fastball ends and the changeup begins.
What Cueto did to the Rockies last night ought to be illegal in 49 states and DC. I appreciate the insight about Posey’s contribution, but Righetti played a big part as well.
Since 2011 Cueto has the 2nd lowest ERA, by a large margin, of any pitcher with 500+ IP (2.68, 3rd is Cliff Lee at 2.89), and that mostly with half his games at the Great American Ballpark; this year his ERA is 2.47 with half his games in a pitcher’s park. His xFIP since then has been 3.55; this year it’s 3.39. In 2014, his ERA was 2.25 and his xFIP was 3.21. He’s been great this year, but he’s been a great pitcher for some time, I wouldn’t say it’s the best he’s ever been.
I think that Cueto is a case where the human side of things needs to be factored in. He had said over and over again he wanted to be a lifetime Red. He lobbied for an extension and made his feelings clear. When he was traded, the impression the Cincinnati media gave was that he was happy the ordeal with the rumors was over, but he wasn’t all that content. He then – to my eye as a guy who’s watched him since day one – didn’t look comfortable in KC, and never really connected with Perez.
This offseason, he got to pick where he went, who he worked with, etc. I would have guessed that his comfort level would be higher and his performance would back it up.
I know these sorts of things are quantifiable in stats. But personality wise, Cueto is one guy who seems to like things a certain way, and his comfort has a major bearing on his on field performance.
This has definitely been my observation since he’s been on the Giants and I’ve seen him a lot. He’s a great competitor but he’s also very sensitive to the situation. In a recent game against the Phillies, Aaron Nola completely lost it and hit three Giants’ batters in the first few innings. The fans in Candlestick were booing wildly. Cueto retired the first two batters in the next inning and then discretely hit Maikel Franco with a changeup. Instead of quietly calling a meeting and telling people to cool it, or just doing nothing, the home plate umpire went stalking around and demonstrably warning everyone in sight. Cueto immediately started throwing everything outside for a few innings and got knocked around pretty badly.
Cueto was pitching for the Giants when he was 13 years old? Nola couldn’t have been more than six, and Franco more than seven…
I’m having trouble finding a record of this game/incident. I also wouldn’t exactly call that recent…
June 26, 2016, just google cueto nola franco
It was supposed to be a joke since you said Candlestick, the ages I noted were how old those players would have been during the last season Candlestick was used for baseball.
Sorry I can be really annoying sometimes.
I’m not 100% sure, but I think most of Cueto’s starts have been on the road. I know his first few in a row were. (It’s surprisingly difficult to find this information tabulated somewhere…). In other words, Cueto hasn’t benefitted from AT&T as much as one might think.
I was wrong; I was thinking of Samardzija. Cuteo had 9 away, 9 home starts. The only games the Giants lost were at home to Arizona and at home to the Dodgers (and Kershaw)