Top 26 Prospects: Detroit Tigers
Below is an analysis of the prospects in the farm system of the Detroit Tigers. Scouting reports are compiled with information provided by industry sources as well as from our own (both Eric Longenhagen’s and Kiley McDaniel’s) observations. For more information on the 20-80 scouting scale by which all of our prospect content is governed you can click here. For further explanation of the merits and drawbacks of Future Value, read this.
All of the numbered prospects here also appear on The Board, a new feature at the site that offers sortable scouting information for every organization. That can be found here.
| Rk | Name | Age | Highest Level | Position | ETA | FV |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Casey Mize | 21.9 | A+ | RHP | 2019 | 55 |
| 2 | Matt Manning | 21.2 | AA | RHP | 2021 | 50 |
| 3 | Daz Cameron | 22.2 | AAA | CF | 2020 | 50 |
| 4 | Isaac Paredes | 20.1 | AA | 3B | 2021 | 50 |
| 5 | Franklin Perez | 21.3 | AA | RHP | 2021 | 45+ |
| 6 | Christin Stewart | 25.3 | MLB | DH | 2019 | 45 |
| 7 | Willi Castro | 21.9 | AAA | SS | 2020 | 45 |
| 8 | Wenceel Perez | 19.4 | A | SS | 2023 | 45 |
| 9 | Beau Burrows | 22.5 | AA | RHP | 2019 | 45 |
| 10 | Parker Meadows | 19.4 | A- | CF | 2022 | 40+ |
| 11 | Kyle Funkhouser | 25.0 | AAA | RHP | 2019 | 40 |
| 12 | Jake Rogers | 23.9 | AA | C | 2020 | 40 |
| 13 | Elvin Rodriguez | 21.0 | A | RHP | 2021 | 40 |
| 14 | Carlos Guzman | 20.9 | A+ | RHP | 2022 | 40 |
| 15 | Alex Faedo | 23.4 | AA | RHP | 2020 | 40 |
| 16 | Sergio Alcantara | 22.7 | AA | SS | 2019 | 40 |
| 17 | Kody Clemens | 22.9 | A+ | 2B | 2021 | 40 |
| 18 | Spencer Turnbull | 26.6 | MLB | RHP | 2019 | 40 |
| 19 | Anthony Castro | 24.0 | AA | RHP | 2020 | 40 |
| 20 | Bryan Garcia | 23.9 | AAA | RHP | 2020 | 40 |
| 21 | Adinso Reyes | 17.4 | R | 3B | 2024 | 40 |
| 22 | Derek Hill | 23.2 | A+ | CF | 2021 | 40 |
| 23 | Reed Garrett | 26.2 | AAA | RHP | 2019 | 40 |
| 24 | Dawel Lugo | 24.2 | MLB | 2B | 2019 | 35+ |
| 25 | Matt Hall | 25.7 | MLB | LHP | 2019 | 35+ |
| 26 | Gregory Soto | 24.1 | A+ | LHP | 2021 | 35+ |
Other Prospects of Note
Grouped by type and listed in order of preference within each category.
Bench Outfield Types
Kingston Liniak, CF
Dustin Peterson, LF
Brock Deatherage, CF
Jacob Robson, CF
Danny Woodrow, CF
Troy Montgomery, CF
Most of these guys can run. Liniak is the youngest and has the best chance to grow into some power. Peterson could impact the big league club this year and might hit enough to be a right-handed bench piece for a while. Deatherage was a college draftee who put up huge numbers in rookie ball, but struck out 25% of the time as a 22-year-old and is due for a huge BABIP regression, so we’re skeptical of his hot pro start. Plate discipline (Robson), speed (Woodrow), and sneaky pop (Montgomery) could propel any of the others into a bench outfield role.
Recent July Twos
Alvaro Gonzalez, SS
Jose De La Cruz, RF
Gonzalez signed in 2017 and is a natural shortstop who likely needs to grow into some offensive ability to profile. De La Cruz is a corner outfield projection bat who makes up for limited athleticism with advanced feel to hit.
Starters
Wilkel Hernandez, RHP
Logan Shore, RHP
Tyler Alexander, LHP
Adam Wolf, LHP
Wilkel came over from the Angels in the Ian Kinsler deal. He’s a somewhat projectable 20-year old with a chance for fifth starter stuff. His curveball has good shape but needs more power. Shore is a changeup artist with a 4 fastball. Alexander throws strikes and eats innings and is a good bet to at least be a sixth starter type of depth arm. A similar role likely awaits Wolf, whose best pitch is a cutter.
Relievers
Jason Foley, RHP
Nolan Blackwood, RHP
Eduardo Jimenez, RHP
Zac Houston, RHP
Sandy Baez, RHP
Gerson Moreno, RHP
Wladimir Pinto, RHP
Tarik Skubal, LHP
Foley is coming back from TJ, and would flash upper-90s heat and a good changeup before his injury. He’s still just 23. Blackwood is a sinkerballing submariner. Jimenez, Houston, and Baez are all possible 55 fastball, 55 slider middle relief fits. Moreno, too, but he’s coming off TJ. Pinto throws really hard — in the mid-90s — but that’s about it right now. Skubal was hurt for his junior year at Seattle University and looked good in bullpens before the draft but nobody would meet his ask. He went back to school and was very wild, then dominated in pro ball after signing by throwing about 80% fastballs. He’s a ground-up rebuild who had third round stuff at his best in college.
System Overview
The Tigers have shifted in recent years from a win-now, trade prospects and spend money approach, to an asset collection, hold prospects, and save money approach. The shift from trading many of their top homegrown talents to keeping them could change the fortunes of the farm eventually, but it hasn’t quite done that yet. Casey Mize will likely get to the big leagues soon, so he’s likely be on this list one more time at most. Matt Manning hasn’t had his breakthrough yet, most industry opinions have Daz Cameron as a low-end regular, and there are still plenty of questions about the ultimate upside of Isaac Paredes and the health of Franklin Perez. For the top of the system of a rebuilding club, that isn’t a particularly strong top of the list. The depth is fine, but depth doesn’t really matter when the first priority is creating the core of your future playoff team.
The fifth and 47th picks in this year’s draft will be nice assets to add, but the big league club isn’t overflowing with core talent, either. Michael Fulmer looked like he could be one, but he’s down for the year with elbow surgery. Nick Castellanos is likely to be traded if and when he performs well. There are some solid complementary pieces in Jeimer Candelario, Matt Boyd, Joe Jimenez and Shane Greene, but the focus here needs to be both adding to the talent base and developing the existing talent better. Clubs like the Dodgers, Brewers, and Yankees seem to be creating contributors out of thin air and those are increasingly the table stakes in player development, with many other teams spending resources to join those leaders. The Tigers appear to be more on the traditional end of things in most departments — not wrong, just more traditional — and the rebuild will need player procurement and development to both take a step forward.
Would you guys have taken Mize at #1 last year? I understand that the Tigers org philosophy is essentially to horde every tall, hard-throwing SEC righty on the planet, but it puzzled me since Mize’s prospect timeline appears to be so off of Detroit’s contention timeline.
I see the Nola comps but it’s not hard for me to see Fulmer-type risk in the profile, as well. Both are hard-throwing righties with violent deliveries and not-prototypical athleticism, and both came to the fore about 2 years before they could realistically net real value to the club.
The timeline doesn’t matter to me, but I would not have given anyone in this draft the $7.5M bonus they paid Mize. Seemed like a perfect opportunity to do something like the Phillies did with Moniak and create some real money to use on tougher signs later.
Yeah they should have taken Harper or Correa instead of Mize. Who else was clearly better?
I think they had a little bad luck in that the year they had the #1 pick, Mize was really the only logical choice. With that in mind, it was the right pick. I think everyone, including people in the org., would have preferred if a stud position player showed himself to be worthy prior to draft day.
Unfortunately, guys like Bart, Bohm, Madrigal profile more as solid to above average regulars than future stars & while HS guys like Kelenic & Gorman may profile as a star ceiling, they also had too much downside risk to take 1-1.
Mize was the right choice. If he works out, the rebuild will be further along than thought & they will have a good problem on their hands in deciding whether to keep him or parlay him for younger assets.
This system is worse than I expected, mostly because the depth is just too minimal. I kind of like the Mize/Manning duo, and Paredes and Stewart seem like they’ll provide so much offense that it will outweigh the defensive stuff, and Cameron now looks like he could be a player after looking like he was never going to make it to the show after his first couple of years as a pro, but the depth just isn’t there. At all.
I think there is a cautionary tale here about contention windows and young pitchers, where the Tigers essentially refused to trade Michael Fulmer, at all, despite him not fitting their contention window and the possibility that he could return a huge haul. It’s easy to second-guess that opinion now, but we’re confronting the same questions about “do the Tigers have a window?” as the Rangers do, except that this system is pretty shallow.
Wow, a well thought out post doesnt go unpunished these days around here.
Yeah, I really don’t understand the downvotes on this…
It’s been going on for a while. Someone’s been targeting posts by SadTrombone. No idea who he/she pissed off but it seems just a wee bit childish…
Yeah, every so often, I post something and someone gets really ticked off, and triggers some sort of script that downvotes the post repeatedly (looks like about 1 downvote every 6 seconds for about 2.5 minutes, or something like that). I’ve given up trying to figure out why.
Well, that’s how you know you’ve made it I guess.
Tiger fan, and completely agree with him. No reason this should be getting down voted.
I actually down voted based on the Fulmer take. The Tigers were hearing offers in 2017 but rumored trade returns didn’t really sound worth biting on. There was no “refused to trade M. Fulmer at all.” You can’t just throw up your hands and give up a good young starter with 5+ years of control up for…Clint Frazier and a rookie ball level arm or two because you have an imagined future window in mind. It’s hard to know what was offered by NY, but all we know is that they wouldn’t include Torres. So there wasn’t much point taking that deal, and Avila would’ve been crushed if he did. I am not a fan of the Tigers front office in any way, but the whole “shoulda traded Fulmer” retrospective is weak imo.
Retrospective “should have” based on things we didn’t know at the time is weak, I agree. But the Cubs were trying to get Fulmer from the Tigers days before they completed the deal for Quintana, but the Tigers insisted on getting both Javier Baez and Ian Happ in the deal, and Baez was too important for the Cubs at that point. The Braves also wanted Fulmer, and had the prospects to get it done. The Rangers and the Yankees both checked in, although it’s fair to note that the packages both were discussing weren’t that attractive (although I maintain that Frazier would have been a fair starting point).
According to Nick Cafardo, Fulmer was the most sought-after pitcher at the deadline, but that Avila was not responding to offers. Others, quoted by Jon Heyman, quoted that other teams who asked about Fulmer were being redirected to Verlander (which, to be fair, the Tigers got a pretty good deal on given where he was at the time).
I think the main issue I had with their stance on Fulmer was that the Tigers were in a terrible spot. They were bad then, and they had no help coming, and Fulmer was the best asset they had. But they kept him. Of course, the specific “what ifs” are pretty bad, but that’s unfair. It’s about the process. They looked at Fulmer, saw his years of control and youth and price tag, and just refused to entertain it. Bad teams with zero farm system need to start thinking about what they can sell, or who is going to be starring for the team five years in the future, and five years in the future Fulmer would have been out of there.
I’ve heard a very different version of events. I guess we aren’t going to find out, but again, what does Ian Happ really do for them? Holding out for a top tier SS, which is the major need in the system makes sense. Especially as Fulmer isn’t a free agent until after the 2022 season. Sure, his rookie year had some elements of a mirage, and pitchers are naturally riskier assets, but flipping 5 1/2 years of Michael Fulmer coming off a ROY of the year campaign for Ian Happ and an auxiliary piece or two is a really hard sell. Then and now.
“Developing the existing talent better” is the key idea here. It sounds so simple to just wait for high draft picks and dump any major league value for prospects, but hard work needs to be happening at the minor league level.
I love the prospect write-ups. Something that struck me in this one isn’t even about the Tigers really. Apparently Daz is “possibly in the Keon Broxton mold, or even a poor man’s version of his father.” Broxton has been worth less than 5 WAR for his career. Mike Cameron was worth over 50 WAR! It still shocks me. Mike was always a guy who was massively underrated. He has the classic profile of an underrated player: a guy who was above-average in all aspects of the game, but was not really fantastic in any. I’d take a poor man’s Mike any day of the week.
Mike was above-average but not terrific in offensive aspects, but his defense really was other-worldly even late into his career.
I guess I should also point out that Casey Mize’s “cutter” is just a hard slider, so the bit about the cutter potentially costing him velo is off the mark. The Isaac Paredes to catcher take is madness, btw. Otherwise, pretty grim and accurate assessment of an org that hasn’t even traded a prospect of note away since Willy Adames in 2014, traded away JV and JD, picked #1 overall last year, and….still has a modestly better than average farm at best.
They also traded Eugenio Suarez after the 2014 season. I think he had lost rookie eligibility & doesn’t fit their window, but, a 22 year old SS who had already made MLB..& all they got was aging Alfredo Simon. Since 2014, they’ve traded Suarez, Robbie Ray, Knebel, Chad Green & I think all that’s left of the return is Shane Greene.
Just not a well run organization. Been terrible 3 of the last 4 years, have traded a ton of veterans & still an average farm. The total insistence on taking starting pitching with every 1st rd pick is the most baffling. Dombrowski (at Ilitch’s urging) really shredded the system to win now, but, Avila has been GM since late 2015, so he has 3 drafts (& all the sell off) under his watch. Not promising to say the least.
They turned Chad Green into Justin Wilson who begat Jeimer Candelario and Isaac Paredes, so that worked out quite well.
Fair point. That trade was easily Avila’s best move.
Still the same point remains. Still mediocre system with very few high upside players. Won’t spend big in Latin America, pick too many college pitchers & relievers & bat only guys.
Yep, and really only got their full analytics database up and running last year, years after supposedly embarking on the project. 2018 draft looked better, but too early to say. Either way it better when you’re picking 1-1, 2-1, etc. KATOH is interesting because that’s the one system the Tigers seemed to pay attention to, picking up KATOH All-Stars like Ryan Carpenter and Kevin Comer last year. Hasn’t worked out so far. As for Rogers, yeah the defense will carry him to plus value, but there is a lot of swing and miss in his game, and poor recognition of breaking balls. Taking a little more time to work on his mechanics is fine. Beyond this year though, they’re fools if he’s not the starting catcher. Knees don’t hold up, and catcher’s defensive primes don’t go on and on…
Faedo seems like he should be converted to reliever asap. A low slot reliever with a nice slider and excellent command can do damage in a bullpen role.
According to BP, Jake Rogers has led the carolina league in WAR while he was with the Astros and led the entire eastern league last year in War last year with Tigers. They have him as best player in entire eastern league last year with 7 WAR. He is way too low. Too bad the tigers don’t know what war is.
Beau burrows way too high. Parker meadows way too low. Turnbull way low. Faedo way too high. Clemens way too high. Rogers way to low. Funkhouser low a couple spots.
Matt Manning 50? Nonsense. Hall of fame stuff
I really feel that Rogers is underrated. Catcher defense is so valuable. He seemed to have figured something out at the plate in the second half last year as well. I am surprised you made no mention of the fact he put up a 137 wrc+ from June 1st onward last year.
Yeah somehow the future WAR calculation can’t take receiving into account. It’s weird. Rogers is basically a lock to be a 2 WAR player, and better if he can hit at all. Should be a 50, but it just doesn’t come out that way in evaluations for no real reason that I can see. It’s just another tool.
KATOH calcs always has him as top 10 prospect in all of minors. Cant see it here anymore because an mlb team hired the creator of it.
Tigers dev staff only knows how to read baseball card stats. WRC+ is foreign to them. Absolutely no reason he should be in AA, after posting 7 war last year and posting wrc+ 140 for last 4 months of season. Some players get promoted after performing just one month, much less 4.
Got to be service time manipulation……reminds me of cubs keeping kris bryant down in minors so he could work on his “defense” ha.
Katoh loves cameron too. Top 10
Good. So do I!
BTW, since this came out, been announced that Franklin Perez is out for 4-6 weeks with shoulder tendinitis. Guy just can’t stay healthy.
Seems like many comments forget that going into 2017 this was a competitive club with possibly the worst farm system in baseball. They still had JD Martinez, Upton, Cabrera, Kinsler, Castellanos in the lineup with Verlander coming off a near CY season and Fulmer as ROY, and missed the WC by maybe 2 games. And a dying owner. They had to try one more time and I think it made sense. Of course they were also fighting against Father Time and he won. The front office knew a rebuild was coming. In hindsight they should have traded Fulmer but I’m not convinced it moves the needle a lot. He wasn’t going to fetch a 60 value prospect like they need. If Mize ends up being the best player from the 2018 draft then screw the supposed “contention window”— they’ll be happy they have a young talented player. It was always going to take time to rebuild their farm system.
Counter point:
– They had already sold off Cespedes & Price in 2015 (getting Boyd, Norris, Fulmer, Labourt) & the return for JD, Kinsler, Upton is not likely to provide anything other than some middle relief/utility players.
– The Avila/Wilson trade looks very good, though both Candy & Paredes may have defensive issues, still a great haul for a backup catcher & a lefty reliever.
– Jury still out on JV trade. Perez can’t stay healthy, Rogers defense will give him a MLB career, but, bat has questions, Cameron is underrated here, I think. They need at least 1 of these 3 to end up above average regular.
-Signing Upton & Zimmerman after 2015, cost them valuable draft capital in 2016. Hopefully Manning works out, no other high ceiling players in that entire class.
-The 2017 draft is already looking very shaky with the top 5-6 picks all having poor years last year. Going low ceiling college pitcher/ 1B bat only JUCO guy/poor hit college catcher/HS catcher is looking even worse now then it did on draft day.
Let’s hope the change in focus in the 2018 class bears fruit. Before that, the focus on stats over ceiling, college pitchers, relievers, catchers, bat only players, limits the upside. IMO, the 2016-17 portion of the rebuild was poorly done.