Washington Nationals Top 29 Prospects

Below is an analysis of the prospects in the farm system of the Washington Nationals. Scouting reports were compiled with information provided by industry sources as well as my own observations. This is the second year we’re delineating between two anticipated relief roles, the abbreviations for which you’ll see in the “position” column below: MIRP for multi-inning relief pitchers, and SIRP for single-inning relief pitchers.
A quick overview of what FV (Future Value) means can be found here. A much deeper overview can be found here.
All of the numbered prospects below also appear on The Board, a resource the site offers featuring sortable scouting information for every organization. It has more details than this article and integrates every team’s list so readers can compare prospects across farm systems. It can be found here.
| Rk | Name | Age | Highest Level | Position | ETA | FV |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Cade Cavalli | 23.9 | AAA | SP | 2023 | 55 |
| 2 | Cole Henry | 23.0 | AAA | SP | 2022 | 50 |
| 3 | Brady House | 19.1 | A | 3B | 2026 | 50 |
| 4 | Cristhian Vaquero | 17.8 | R | CF | 2027 | 45+ |
| 5 | Jeremy De La Rosa | 20.5 | A | CF | 2024 | 45 |
| 6 | Jackson Rutledge | 23.3 | A+ | SIRP | 2022 | 40+ |
| 7 | Gerardo Carrillo | 23.8 | AA | SIRP | 2022 | 40 |
| 8 | Armando Cruz | 18.5 | R | SS | 2025 | 40 |
| 9 | Jake Irvin | 25.4 | AA | SP | 2023 | 40 |
| 10 | Aldo Ramirez | 21.2 | AAA | SP | 2023 | 40 |
| 11 | Drew Millas | 24.5 | AA | C | 2023 | 40 |
| 12 | T.J. White | 19.0 | A | CF | 2026 | 40 |
| 13 | Andry Lara | 19.5 | A | SP | 2025 | 40 |
| 14 | Daylen Lile | 19.6 | R | LF | 2026 | 40 |
| 15 | Sammy Infante | 21.0 | A | 3B | 2025 | 40 |
| 16 | Jake Alu | 25.2 | AA | 3B | 2024 | 40 |
| 17 | Evan Lee | 25.0 | MLB | SIRP | 2022 | 40 |
| 18 | Zach Brzykcy | 23.0 | AA | SIRP | 2024 | 40 |
| 19 | Cory Abbott | 26.8 | MLB | SP | 2022 | 40 |
| 20 | Joan Adon | 23.9 | MLB | SIRP | 2022 | 40 |
| 21 | Seth Shuman | 24.6 | A+ | SP | 2023 | 40 |
| 22 | Israel Pineda | 22.3 | A+ | C | 2022 | 40 |
| 23 | Mason Denaburg | 22.9 | A | SP | 2023 | 35+ |
| 24 | Francisco Perez | 25.0 | MLB | SIRP | 2022 | 35+ |
| 25 | Matt Cronin | 24.8 | AAA | SIRP | 2022 | 35+ |
| 26 | Mitchell Parker | 22.8 | A+ | MIRP | 2024 | 35+ |
| 27 | Roismar Quintana | 19.4 | R | RF | 2023 | 35+ |
| 28 | Jose A. Ferrer | 22.3 | A+ | SIRP | 2023 | 35+ |
| 29 | Lucius Fox | 25.0 | MLB | SS | 2022 | 35+ |
Other Prospects of Note
Grouped by type and listed in order of preference within each category.
More Power-Over-Hit Types
Omar Meregildo, 1B
Donovan Casey, RF
Leandro Emiliani, 1B
Jordy Barley, SS
Meregildo is way too old for High-A, but he stands apart from every other Blue Rock except for Jeremy De La Rosa in terms of physicality, and has big power. Casey, part of the Scherzer/Turner deal with the Dodgers, was a two-way college player with power, speed and arm strength, but his hit tool has fallen off against upper-level arms. Emiliani is a lefty-hitting version of Meregildo. Barley will still make the occasional eye-popping play at short or hit a 420-foot bomb, but he’s 22 now, hasn’t developed a more discerning approach and remains inconsistent on defense.
Hitters
J.T. Arruda, SS
Viandel Pena, 2B
Yasel Antuna, LF
Yoander Rivero, SS
Darren Baker, 2B
Branden Boissiere, 1B
Jackson Cluff, SS
I’ve been on Arruda in this area since he was at Fresno State, and he’s hit well in the low minors, though he can’t seem to escape. I like him as a potential switch-hitting bench infielder. Pena is another compact, switch-hitting middle infielder with sneaky pop for his size. His bat-to-ball skills tend to be over-evaluated by eyeball scouts, and he’s actually swinging and missing too much for the main section of the list. Antuna was once a high-profile international signee who dealt with early-career injuries but was added to Washington’s 40-man anyway. While he’s walking much more now than ever before in his career, scouts think it’s out of sheer passiveness rather than feel for the zone, and don’t see him having enough bat to play a left field-only role. The diminutive Rivero, 20, is already in his 40-man evaluation year. He has plus infield actions and enough arm to be developed at shortstop, but currently lacks viable big league strength. Baker has above-average bat-to-ball skills and runs well. He and Pena become more prospect-y if they can play a host of other positions. Boissiere was fifth in Division-I in hits in 2021 but is striking out much more than is typical for a prospect toward the bottom of the defensive spectrum. Cluff can play short and was performing at the lower levels, but he’s been well beneath the Mendoza Line since arriving at Double-A.
Can They Throw Harder?
Jose Atencio, RHP
Dustin Saenz, LHP
Alex Troop, LHP
Tim Cate, LHP
Atencio, 20, sits in the low-90s and touches above. He’s quite physically mature but his delivery is loose and athletic, he throws quality strikes, and both his slider and changeup have bat-missing quality on occasion. Saenz (pronounced “signs”) is a pitchability lefty with a gorgeous arm action who sits 90-92 mph and has feel for an above-average slider. A two-way player at Michigan State, Troop is a well-built 6-foot-5 and has an extremely vertical arm slot that creates weird angle on his upper-80s fastball. He has plus command of three 40-grade pitches and is a fun upper-level sleeper if teams think they can somehow coax more out of his huge frame, even at 25. Cate is an athletic, soft-tossing lefty with a shapely curveball and 30-grade velo.
Depth Arms
Holden Powell, RHP
Sterling Sharp, RHP
Richard Guasch, RHP
Brendan Collins, RHP
Rodney Theophile, RHP
Reid Schaller, RHP
Seth Romero, LHP
Powell has been hurt in 2022. His delivery is funky and violent, but he had a very successful career at UCLA and was experiencing a velo spike throughout 2020-21 (into the mid-90s) before this injury, which has kept him out all year. Sharp is a sinker-oriented spot starter with a loose, fluid delivery. Guasch came over from Oakland in trade; he sits 93 mph and generates above-average action on his slider. Collins throws hard, at times 94-97, and he’ll flash a plus curveball. He only pitched one season at UNC Greensboro and probably has developmental meat left on the bone. Theophile is a big, 6-foot-5 righty from Nicaragua who put up arguably the best numbers in this system (15% swinging strike rate, 62% groundballs) prior to promotion to Wilmington, where his performance has regressed. I can’t find a scout or data analyst who can tell me why he was so dominant at Low-A; he sits in the low-90s, will occasionally flash a good changeup, and his breaking ball lacks power. There are lots of arms and legs coming at hitters, so perhaps he has huge deception. Schaller was an interesting draft pick, an oft-injured pitcher who was also eligible as an underclassman due to his age (he was basically a 21-year-old redshirt freshman). He was up to 97 mph in his draft year but has been more in the 92-94 range this year. Romero has had a variety of injury and off-the-field issues that have prevented him from pitching for much of the last six years, though at times he has shown three plus pitches.
System Overview
This is one of the worst farm systems in baseball. It has exciting players within the universal top 125 prospects or so, but the layers of prospects beneath the near-ready stalwarts (Cavalli and Henry) and potential superstars at a greater distance (House and Vaquero) are extremely thin. Remember that part of the reason this system looks so bad on paper is because the chief elements of last year’s Scherzer/Turner blockbuster, Keibert Ruiz and Josiah Gray, lost rookie eligibility last season. Even with them included, though, this system is as top-heavy as a Kevin Mench bobblehead. That’s largely due to the org’s inability to develop pitching at the same rate as most all other orgs. The pitchers Washington drafts and acquires via trade tend to plateau. Not only is there a lack of improvement from the off-the-radar types, which has become more common in our current era of player development, but the org’s inability to actualize the prospects the industry generally likes is also striking.
Scouts and personnel from other clubs are also perplexed by the glacial rate of promotions occurring in this system. There are definitely teams that promote prospects for its own sake, and others that do it as a way of toying with other teams’ pro scouting models, but the Nationals occupy the other extreme. For example, Tim Cate, a 2018 second rounder out of UConn who is now 24-years old, made 20 starts at Double-A in 2021, and while he had an ERA over 5.00, his peripherals were much better than that. They sent him back to A-ball this year. Todd Peterson, who is K’ing 11-per-9 and walking 2-per-9 in his 40-man evaluation year, is languishing away at Low-A facing worse hitters than those he saw on a regular basis in college. I’m sure the Nationals have internal benchmarks for promotion, and I’m admittedly at a greater remove from their organizational philosophies than perhaps any other team because of my geographic distance from their operation and because this is one of the orgs whose leadership group seems to have a derisive view of analytics, all of which makes it hard to judge this stuff. But at some point you have to have a better idea of how good your own players are, and one of the ways to assess that is by seeing how they perform at the next level of play.
Mike Rizzo and company have an abnormally strong hit rate when it comes to triaging free agents, which is part of what led to their championship. Often that has involved bringing on guys like Josh Harrison, Asdrúbal Cabrera, or Howie Kendrick, who have bankable hit tools. It’s curious then that the farm system is devoid of prospects with water-carrying feel for contact. Even the hitters billed as being relatively polished coming out of the draft, like Daylen Lile and Sammy Infante, have concerning early-career swinging strike rates. Only six players under 23 in this org have a SwStr% better than the big league average, and several of those need to be taken with a grain of salt because they’re older than the typical prospect at their level.
Still, with Mike Rizzo’s 2023 option recently exercised by the club, it’s clear he and the org as it is currently constituted will continue to shepherd the early stages of the club’s current rebuild, at least for now. The team’s looming potential sale perhaps makes the group’s long-term prognosis less favorable, especially if the new ownership wants to take a more analytically-inclined approach. Often, new ownership groups take on debt just to buy the team and want the big league payroll to be cut early on in their tenure, which might complicate Juan Soto extension discussions. Any trade involving him would presumably alter the system’s fortunes dramatically as he’s arguably the best young player on the planet.
Eric Longenhagen is from Catasauqua, PA and currently lives in Tempe, AZ. He spent four years working for the Phillies Triple-A affiliate, two with Baseball Info Solutions and two contributing to prospect coverage at ESPN.com. Previous work can also be found at Sports On Earth, CrashburnAlley and Prospect Insider.
Met, Nat, and Astro fans on this site lost out due to Goldstein leaving, as I’m sure the write-ups for those teams would have been out sooner and had a lot more insight and depth if he’d still been at fangraphs. Bummer. But thanks for hustling to get these out before the draft.
I mean, would you rather have a rushed product or the in-depth review that Eric provides? I, for one, am absolutely fine waiting for quality.
Yeah, talented people are in short supply. I recommend being nice. Of course I am from the Midwest, so what do I know.
I’m from the Midwest and telling people like this to be nice is a waste. They only understand a different language. That was me being nice.
I’d much rather have something out in March than July. If that means it’s “rushed,” so be it.
What is a 2022 preseason ranking worth in July? Yes, I would rather have a “rushed product”. I could do without the creative writing.
“I wouldn’t say yes, I wouldn’t be able to do it,” Henderson said. That’s Santa Leda. But d’Ath is too supernatural, and I won’t let it get to me.
Downvoting is too lenient for this comment
Why don’t you get a membership before complaining about content you get for free?
I apologize for the tone of my original comment. I can see why it was misinterpreted as a complaint against Eric’s work, which as noted I am reading for free. I meant only to express lament at the loss of Goldstein and to recognize the extra burden it placed on Eric.
Kudos for coming back and responding in a reasonable manner. I can see what you were trying to say but it certainly came off in the wrong way.
“as top-heavy as a Kevin Mench bobblehead” was worth my membership all by itself.
This actually is slightly less bleak than I thought, honestly. It’s not good, but I definitely thought it was worse; there are some guys here who should make an MLB impact.
nats are truly blessed. the one team that can throw two no-hitters within 3 baseball months of one another and fall back on their “everything is against us” bullshit because someone leaned in. nevermind that they’d be laughing their asses off if it happened to some team they don’t like and telling their fans to “stop whining”
sir this is a wendy’s
It’s rare anymore that a comment on the internet makes me actually do the “out loud” part of lol. But this one did. Twice. Thank-you for spinning idiocy into gold.
What
Where’s the From Croatian to Vietnamese to whatever guy when you really need him?
He’s busy one cognitively-challenged comment higher in this thread. We’re all spread thin these days. Supply chain, yadda yadda.
Please note that the user name is “Screamin’ Jay” – it is not “coherent Jay” for a reason
Whisperin’ Jay is over in the corner, but you can’t really hear him.
Let’s hope he Jay walks out of here!
He put a spell on me.
As a Nats fan, I confess their player development system is fairly puzzling/concerning. They’ve had talented players in recent years, but mostly of the unrealized variety within the Nats org – Reynaldo Lopez, Lucas Giolito, and Blake Treinen come to mind. I fear that this could also become the case for Cole Henry and Cade Cavalli. This franchise seems to be the most eminently qualified for a McKinsey/management consulting re-org, perhaps the new ownership will hire some Bobs to figure it out
Don’t forget about Robbie Ray and Nick Pivetta!
I do sort of get why Soto might not want to sign an extension there. They play in a tough division but they have the worst run differential in major league baseball, the third worst BaseRuns differential, the third worst record, and something like the third worst farm system. What would make him want to stay? Signing Rafael Devers? 500 million dollars? Replacing Eleanor Holmes Norton as shadow rep?
I wonder whether they kept Rizzo and Martinez because they thought it would please Soto. I wonder whether he actually cares about that.
The Nationals are such a wreck that the only thing they have that’s better than the Orioles equivalent at this point is Juan Soto. Worse team, worse farm, worse direction.
And the Orioles are a perpetually rebuilding clusterfuck.
The situation here isn’t great but they won a world series recently, have a decent amount of money (they’re in the second tier of team revenues) and either the current owners will keep the team and start spending again or they’ll sell it to someone who will hire whatever hot assistant GM is tearing it up.
That said, it might not be much comfort for Soto, who probably wants to win in the medium term. The next 5 years could be rough, because in addition to the fact that there’s not a lot of reinforcements coming there’s also a lot of deferred money. They owe $58M in additional payroll obligations in both 2023 and 2024, and $35M in both 2025 and 2026. And that’s on top of Strasburg and Corbin getting paid. In 2024, this team will be down about $130M between Strasburg, Corbin, and the deferrals that year. That’s Soto’s walk year, and he’ll have at least a $30M salary, probably more like $35M.
But I suspect this franchise will right itself, eventually, even it might come too late for Soto. The situation with the Royals, Tigers, and Rockies is a bit more baffling, because the resources are less and ownership seems content with mediocrity. Which is all they’re going to get.
It’s worth remembering that Rizzo’s story is kind of wild. He was a scout for the Red Sox in the 90s, and got hired to the D-Backs at their inception as their director scouting. He got passed over for the GM job so he went to the Nationals with Jim Bowden. But then it came out that Bowden was under FBI investigation, so he abruptly resigned, and Rizzo took over on an interim basis. And the team was awful, but they kept him around anyway. And then the team started winning in 2012 and didn’t stop basically until last year (or 2020, if you count that weirdness).
In all three of the orgs he worked for, none of the guys are still around. The D-Backs execs he worked for are all gone; same with the Red Sox execs, and same with Bowden. And I’m not sure anyone else he would have worked with then is still around either. Those guys are mostly all gone.
This is not how it normally is. Either teams are run by “lifers” like the Yankees, Cards, Rockies, and White Sox, or teams steal younger assistants from analytically savvy front offices to run theirs (about half the teams in the league have a primary decision-maker that goes back to one of Billy Beane, Andrew Friedman, Mike Shapiro, or Theo Epstein). The only other situations that are even remotely like Rizzo’s in the current MLB landscape is Kim Ng, who got hired to work under Jeter, and then Jeter left and Ng is the one left standing; and Jon Daniels (who took over after John Hart quit in 2005). It’s downright shocking that Rizzo lasted this long. Even other guys with old school tendencies like Dayton Moore and AJ Preller were hired as hot-shot assistants.
I think there are multiple ways to interpret this story but if I’m the Nationals, and I think there is going to be a chance I’m changing GMs, I am probably not just firing Rizzo and promoting the next guy up (Kris Kline, who is so anonymous he doesn’t even have a wikipedia page). I think I am probably doing what literally every other team does and interviewing Pete Putila, Jason McLeod, Bobby Heck, and all the other guys.
All good points. Would love a palace intrigue type story (Fangraphs? The athletic?) to learn even more about these oddities. There is undoubtedly a steep cost associated with organizational dysfunction, but the extent of the hit to franchise valuation / organizational ranking is an unknown that I would love to dig into
I don’t think there’s any intrigue here. Ownership likes Rizzo, and he presided over a lot of success. I’m sure he doesn’t have an unlimited leash, but since it looks like the Lerners are selling we’ll probably never find out. I’d expect the new regime to hire their own guy almost regardless.
I don’t exactly know why they took the interim tag off of him in the first place, but it obviously worked out.
If they do sell the team, he’ll probably hang on until the new owners take over, at which point everyone will go their separate ways. Although that didn’t happen with Dayton Moore, I imagine it will this time.
If they don’t sell the team (which I know everyone says won’t happen, but still), things will get more interesting. He’ll get at least a couple of years grace period but at some point it’s going to be tough to watch.
If my memory is right, Rizzo was made permanent GM the day they signed Strasburg after the draft, or just about the same time. ’09 was a wash out, but they were in the position to draft Harper. Then they brought in Pudge for ’10 and showed improvement, and in ’11 there was the Werth signing, the Rendon draft, and the 80-81 record. Solid improvement. Even with Boras dealing directly with old man Lerner on Strasburg, I think Ted leaned on Rizzo as a baseball guy in the negotiations. Wouldn’t be surprised if he personally was impressed, which insulated Rizzo from second guessing.
I forgot about Lerner’s relationship with Boras. I can imagine that if Rizzo figured out how to work around (and with) that he would have put himself in a good position to stay.
The Athletic might do it, but it’s really in the wheelhouse of one of ESPN’s “insiders.” Maybe it’ll amount to the exit interview when the new owners fire him (if that’s how it goes).
I don’t even think this system is as good as Eric says. I could be convinced Cavalli is a 50, but a 55? If he’s not getting whiffs with a 70-grade fastball and a whole bunch of 55-grade secondaries in the minors, I don’t see the best-case scenarios as particularly likely. Only a handful of these guys with big stuff and average whiffs in the minors end up like Sandy Alcantara, and most of them wind up like Joe Kelly. Guys like Michael Kopech, Dylan Cease, Frankie Montas, and nearly any other positive comp you can come up with absolutely shredded the minors.
I suspect (but obviously don’t know) that player development is a partial driver here. If FV is intended to be organization-agnostic I think 55 makes sense – my hunch is that Cade would be ascendant with a different org
I think it’s a little dangerous to start thinking that there is that much left when you can very easily point to a “long, somewhat scary arm action” for a guy who is almost 24 and in AAA as the reason why this isn’t working. Could another org fix it? I don’t know. But the last prospect like this who fixed it and that I can remember is Espino, and Espino’s done something crazy to improve his flexibility that is not normal. Meanwhile, Cavalli is specifically noted as being stiff.
I think the thought process was that they had already put Leiter up there, and Leiter also has some real command problems, a deep repertoire, and good stuff. But Leiter is hosing guys in his first crack at affiliated ball, and if we’re still worried about the command with him then maybe Leiter should be a 50 instead.
Bad control (not to mention command) and injury risk are not a great combo.
I may have been too harsh. His control seems OK, but the hit rate suggests a problem.
DeGrom is the one exception who suddenly started getting Ks out of nowhere once he got to the majors.
He reverse-Sampson’ed
They were only out of nowhere because he was a shortstop for so long. He was so “young” in his development as a pitcher even though he was “older” in prospect years.
I guess, but he had 450 innings in the minors with a K rate about 7 and it jumped to 9+ literally the second he got to the majors.
His K rate that year in the minors was below 7.
Right. Because pitcher development is not the same as major league pitching to get guys out. He pitched completely differently in the majors.
Caught Andry Lara v Richard Gallardo earlier this year…felt like a battle btw Future (all hail) rotation anchors
You mentioned Henry’s slider twice but I didn’t see a grade on it.
Yup, that was a back-end goof. Should be updated now. Thank you for spotting that!
You’re welcome Meg
One of the worst teams in baseball with one of the worst farm system’s in baseball. Must be time to give Rizzo an extension/raise.
I don’t know what to think – I really need my internet friends Ruben Amaro Jr. and Dave Stewart to weigh in here.
Knowing how good your players are is truly key. Execs in all fields are over-optimistic, so the potential for biased decisions is real.
No byline for Meg? Did she not contribute? If she did, her name should be there.
I edited the list, but didn’t write any of it, so no byline necessary.
edited byline
It’s telling that they traded Trea Turner, Max Scherzer, and Lucas Giolito and got this farm system. And I guess Kelbert Ruiz.
“Remember that part of the reason this system looks so bad on paper is because the chief elements of last year’s Scherzer/Turner blockbuster, Keibert Ruiz and Josiah Gray, lost rookie eligibility last season”
I mean it’s right there on the page…
The reason the farm system stinks is that there have been too many bad drafts lately, and not enough player development. Rizzo may be the sort of GM better suited to getting a contender over the top, than to building one.
They traded Trea Turner and Max Scherzer and got Keibert Ruiz and Josiah Gray.
But they traded Lucas Giolito, Reynaldo Lopez, and Dane Dunning and got a title*.
*I mean, Adam Eaton wasn’t great in 2019, but they didn’t have a lot of room to spare in the World Series and you don’t want to mess up the timeline.
Great read as always, thank for all of the info!
Just FYI for Meg, think there might be a typo in Rutledge’s write-up (unless he was actually throwing 110 at some point, in which case I need to go find that YouTube video).
So at this point I could hear The Commodores lyric in my head so clearly it was like an aural hallucination. How is “Brick” not this guy’s nickname?
as a hitter, I’m sort of glad you didn’t come up with “Out.”
Hopefully the fans will create a section with that name and drop a K in a replica each time he records one.
If he ever becomes a closer, I certainly hope the Commodores song becomes his entrance music. The entire stadium will be up dancing.
Finally, and super big thanks!!
that is a crapload of FV40s and not much else anytime soon. Ugh! I definitely see a very good bullpen in this farm system, but it’s a shot in the dark everywhere else. We will need several big free agents to have any chance of competing anytime soon unless we get very lucky. That’s not likely! ugh! But it is what I expected!
I think we will need a 1B, 2B,3b, SS, the stronger half of a Lf platoon and at least 2 SPs probably 3 SPs this off-season. Maybe Garcia can play one of the infield spots, but the glove needs to be better to play SS. And the offense is Babip driven.
Despite all this need. I want to keep Soto, but I would get it if he left.
Surprised there are no comments on De la Rosa. Totally agree with the 45 FV rating and with everything in Eric’s writeup, but this is one of the highest-upside prospects in baseball. Yes, he’s repeating the level but it’s still an age-appropriate league, and he has cut his K rate by 25%, upped his walk rate by 30% and into the double-digits, increased his power a bit and his speed a TON, and shown that it’s possible he could remain in CF rather than move to a corner.
And then, the intangibles… the Nats staff reportedly raved over his approach and makeup at the alt site in 2020, and Juan Soto has taken the kid under his wing and they now workout together in the offseason. Very important for a kid who was a bit raw for the international signing class.
He doesn’t turn 21 until next January, at which point he’ll be preparing for the challenge of AA ball. This is a kid with 20-HR, 40-SB potential. It’s a different player, different handedness but the results potential to me is Starling Marte-like upside (down to the will-he, won’t-he remain in CF conversation) but a decent amount of risk to get there.
Let’s hope Soto has a big impact on his game! Someone needs to replace Robles in 2025. The next Marte would be very cool!
It is hard to beleive that anyone is taking such low level data for anything. DSL bat to ball data? This is how baseball is dying.The analysis is just getting worse. Trust the science though, right? All that is doing is obsessing over outcomes. Scouting the statline is supposed to be the wrong way to do it and this is worse. The thing that matters is how it looks and how the player is developing.
I was always very excited about Rutledge but it is hard to see how he is much of a prospect at this point. As tantalizing as certain things are, the worst case scenario seems to be playing out in slow motion. It is hard to give up on the elite ceiling but that seems like it is in the rear-view mirror.