We Don’t Need a Signing Window. Please Eat More Oatmeal.

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Even with an extra day of February, we’re entering the month of March with several key free agents un-signed. Our no. 5, no. 6, and no. 7-ranked free agentsBlake Snell, Jordan Montgomery, and Matt Chapman — are all headed for a gap year. So are various other useful veterans, like Brandon Belt, J.D. Martinez, and Michael Lorenzen.

It’s not ideal. The teams want to have their rosters set, the players don’t want to miss camp if they can avoid it. It’s not great from a content creation/publicity perspective for either the league or the media. Myself included; when we called dibs on writing up the various big free agent signings last fall, I picked Snell and Monty, and I’ve been jumping out of my skin at every Slack notification I’ve gotten since. I haven’t slept in four months!

And the bigwigs at MLB are getting tetchy about it. Two weeks ago, commissioner Rob Manfred told reporters that the league had proposed a free agent signing period to the union in the last round of CBA talks, with the goal of creating “two weeks of flurried activity” that would dominate SportsCenter and settle everyone’s offseason quickly. Manfred’s argument is that concentrating the action would grab baseball much-needed publicity. Publicity leads to attention, and attention to money. Everyone wins. Yesterday, ESPN’s Alden Gonzalez released a reported feature on the idea, including the blindingly obvious reasons why the union left Manfred on read.

It’s a bird! It’s a plane! It’s a trial balloon!

I’m not completely sold on the idea of a free agency period being good for publicity. You certainly see it work in other sports, which have salary caps, but MLB would be trading a wide trickle of news for a brief torrent that ran out before Christmas. After that, there’d be nothing to talk about, apart from the Hall of Fame, for the two months leading up to spring training.

But I remember how much fun the end-of-the-world free agent bacchanal was in the days before the lockout, so let’s stipulate that a big, noisy swap meet is something we all actually want. The obvious question is how the league would enforce a signing period.

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According to Manfred, the last formal proposal the league issued came in mid-2021. That involved a seven-day window around the Winter Meetings in which players could sign multi-year contracts. Anyone left unsigned after that would be limited to a one-year deal.

Man, I can’t imagine why the players didn’t go for that. Especially given that it was proposed as the league was ramping up toward locking the union out.

Given the hesitancy teams have shown when it comes to signing veteran free agents — particularly those below the top tier — I find it unlikely that anyone short of a Shohei Ohtani or Corey Seager-level superstar would even get offered a multi-year contract. Why get into a bidding war when you can wait until Day 8 and go back to the days of perpetual one-year contracts? At best, as one agent told Gonzalez, teams would only deliver their best offers right up against the deadline.

Nevertheless, Manfred could have this codified signing period if he wanted to. If, and only if, the owners made it worth the players’ while.

For the entirety of baseball history, ownership has squeezed every dollar possible out of its workforce. Certainly in the past 50-odd years of organized labor. After multiple collusion scandals, the lockout, the pre-lockout capital strike, the draft, the relentless push for a salary cap and limits on amateur spending, the lobbying to exempt minor leaguers from minimum wage laws, and the needless fight over the 2020 season restart, Major League Baseball and this commissioner simply do not have the credibility — with the players or increasingly with the fans — to ask for this in the best interests of the game.

Would condensing free agency actually take money out of players’ pockets? Nobody knows for sure. But I do know that most owners and GMs would use a signing period as an opportunity to try. And no labor union worth its collection of Pete Seeger records would take such a risk on faith. So if Manfred and the owners want a signing period, they can absolutely get it. But it’d cost them.

You know what would animate free agency? An NHL-style model that includes an age backstop for required service time, allowing every player to become an unrestricted free agency after his age-27 season if he so chooses. A lot of the concerns about the current crop of free agents involve their age and long-term production potential — and even as an unabashed pinko socialist, I think these are reasonable concerns.

I don’t know how Chapman’s bat is going to hold up in five years’ time. (Or his glove, for that matter.) Any argument I could make for singing him to something like a six-year, $150 million contract would be normative, and I would expect an owner or executive to be just as dismissive of that argument as I just was of Manfred’s.

But sliding the free agency schedule up a couple years would make the proposition of signing an expensive free agent more palatable, as teams would be paying for more of the player’s peak production.

Or how about making free agency more attractive to teams by reducing the cost gap between fielding a team of rookies and entertaining the free market? The league could have arbitration come earlier in a player’s career, or increase the minimum salary, or institute some form of restricted free agency for players after three years in the majors.

Want something from your union? Horse trading is how to get it. At least, it’s more likely to work than the argument presented by A’s GM David Forst, who acknowledged players’ concerns but said, “It’s not great for the game and the marketing of our game to have this stretched out over five months.”

An A’s executive pontificating about what’s good for the game is ironic enough, given the club’s in-process-of-being-botched move to Las Vegas. But Forst has about as much firsthand knowledge of the free agent market as you or I do; Oakland hasn’t signed a major league free agent to a multi-year contract since December 3, 2019.

Which is the real problem this winter. Most of the usual big players in free agency got their shopping done early: The Dodgers signed Ohtani and Yoshinobu Yamamoto, then traded for and extended Tyler Glasnow, all before Christmas. The Yankees traded for Juan Soto (and his $31 million salary) in early December, when Manfred wants the action to happen. A month later, they signed Marcus Stroman, reducing their need for Snell or Montgomery.

The Phillies re-signed Aaron Nola and don’t really have any holes to fill that match the remaining free agents. Nor do the Braves or Rangers.

Which leaves up-and-coming teams like the Reds and Orioles, and perpetual median-huggers like the Mariners, in need of help in the rotation, at third base, or both, and in no mood to sign one of the remaining top free agents.

That’s the real problem: Free agency seems to be an optional activity, even for teams that want to be good. Manfred’s ability to influence and cajole the players is limited; if he wants more action in free agency, he needs to look in his own camp for a solution first.

At any rate, a codified signing period is a solution in search of a problem. Why are three top-10 free agents still unsigned? Because while they’re all $100 million players, each represents a non-trivial risk for a contract of that size. Can Snell stay healthy, and if so, can he throw strikes? Will Chapman be as good in the next five years as he was in the past five? Have we just seen the real Montgomery, or is he more of a no. 3 starter than a bona fide playoff ace?

All legitimate questions. The players without such questions — Ohtani, Yamamoto, Nola — all went off the board quickly, just as Manfred would’ve wanted. If there weren’t such a wide variety of opinions about the three remaining standouts, it would be easier to find suitable homes for all of them.

As it is, the offseason has taken on an unusual shape. This much is indisputable. The big teams I’ve mentioned before all got their business done early. The Mets are in a bit of an odd spot, in a year-and-a-half trough before another push for contention. The Padres are re-evaluating their roster going forward after the death of owner Peter Seidler, who built the team into a contender, and are one of several teams facing financial uncertainty regarding their local broadcast deals.

Amid all this, Chapman, Snell, and Montgomery are all represented by an agent, Scott Boras, who likes to take things to the wire and is known for taking a hard line. So much so that two teams with big payrolls and big ambitions — the Dodgers and Braves — generally don’t deal with him.

It’s not clear to me that this is a systemic crisis in need of legislation. For the first century of Major League Baseball as such, there was really only one rule change: the introduction of the designated hitter. Now, in the span of two seasons, the league has added a pitch clock, shift restrictions, tacked on a round of the playoffs, and all manner of other innovations. And now, every time something weird happens — whether it’s lower-seeded teams advancing in the playoffs, Ohtani keeping a lid on his free agency plans, and now three good free agents going into March without a home — we need to change the rules again.

This is an awkward situation, to be sure, but it’s the result of idiosyncratic factors: Where certain teams are in their competitive cycles, the potential collapse of the RSN bubble, even a single agent who might have overplayed his hand. Even if these conditions do persist into the 2024-25 offseason, the teams and agents will be better able to handle the situation by virtue of having been through it before.

So we could sling mud at the union and the agents, rewrite the calendar, question the economic foundations of the sport. Or everyone could chill out. Frustrated by Montgomery’s inaction? So was General Eisenhower, and he won World War II anyway.

Manfred says March is a bad time for free agents to sign. I say it’s a great time to make sure you’re drinking enough water and getting enough fiber in your diet. Everything else will come in due time.





Michael is a writer at FanGraphs. Previously, he was a staff writer at The Ringer and D1Baseball, and his work has appeared at Grantland, Baseball Prospectus, The Atlantic, ESPN.com, and various ill-remembered Phillies blogs. Follow him on Twitter, if you must, @MichaelBaumann.

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ScoreboardMember since 2016
2 years ago

I’m just here watching all these shots fired at Manfred and the owners and loving it.

Ya’ll need to let us post gifs so I can properly illustrate the enthusiasm with which I’m nodding along with each “solution in search of a problem” like statement.

dangledangleMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  Scoreboard

You forgot they added see through pants this year not sure the players appreciate the league dangling other changes.

BarryZitoBarChords
2 years ago
Reply to  dangledangle

Dangling! I see what you did there! (And the players are afraid everyone else can too!)

bernardgilkeyhasaposseMember since 2019
2 years ago
Reply to  Scoreboard

If there is a Wikipedia entry for the phrase “solution in search of a problem” – Manfred’s picture should be featured.

SyndergaardengnomesMember since 2020
2 years ago

Expanding the playoffs has had the exact result owners wanted. A team projected to win 86 games has so much less incentive to keep improving compared to a few years ago.

The players union gave this away for next to nothing.

tomerafan
2 years ago

Bingo. You can make the playoffs without spending those marginal dollars on mid-level or declining veterans.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
2 years ago

I agree this is how the majority of owners are acting, but I’m not sure it’s really game-theoretically correct behavior. The extra playoff slots should have, roughly speaking, the effect of dramatically increasing the value of wins 86 and 87 while decreasing the value of wins 94 and 95. This should mean (on the argument I think the union may have believed) that a greater number of middle-range teams have an incentive to buy a few extra wins in free agency, rather than standing pat while a smaller number of win-now teams are the only bidders. But it seems like the faulty assumption there is believing that teams’ strategic goal is actually making the playoffs every year instead of what they really do, which is often remaining content just to be “in contention.” I guess the players may have been working from a slightly faulty premise about what teams really value when the chips are down.

keithk
2 years ago

Connie Mack is said to have favored having a team that was good enough to finish third. The team would stay in the race for most of the year, creating enough excitement to sell tickets, but then the players would find it harder to agitate for more money because they didn’t win the pennant. True or not, it seems like a reasonable business strategy that current owners could apply, just trying to be good enough to be at the edges of the playoff race.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  keithk

Except most players’ salaries are no longer tied to last year’s playoff success, and it’s only one of many factors for that year’s free agent class.

Meanwhile, all the extra revenue that teams get just by making the playoffs (which gets larger the further they go) is well worth going for it.

Thatguy47
2 years ago

Bigger problem seems to be that several ownership groups just don’t care that much about winning & aren’t willing to spend.

Currently multiple teams who are good with spending are tapped out like the Mets, Phillies, Padres, & Rangers. Dodgers have spent big. Braves and Astros are ok. Yankees and Red Sox spend decently but maybe not as much as they could.

Meanwhile up and coming teams like the Orioles, Mariners, and Reds are barely spending. Orioles especially.

It isn’t really feasible and there’s not a ton of incentive for big spender owners to care about this but MLB basically needs to throw out cheapskate owners who are comfortable freeloading off revenue sharing & inelastic revenue streams. It just kills the fanbases and markets of their teams.

One thing I’d be interested in is cutting off revenue sharing in exchange for ending territorial rights. Bring more teams to NY area or Cali.

I don’t buy that cheapskate teams like the Marlins and Rays are stuck that way because of their market size. People point out that for the Rays their player payroll as a proportion of team revenue is consistent with other teams (about 40%), but their revenues & attendance were relatively higher around 2008-2010 (22nd in 2010 and consistently increasing) when they were getting good before they let longtime favorites like Carl Crawford, Jason Bartlett, Carlos Pena, and Matt Garza go in the 2010-11 offseason and refused to spend coming off a 96 win 1st place 2010. Attendance immediately tanked to 29th next season just ahead of Oakland.

You have these owners who aren’t interested in investing in their teams and expanding their fanbase and basically end up salting the earth for future MLB teams in the area because people attribute poor financial performance to market conditions vs bad ownership (ie Florida’s transplants + football country).

In the meantime we aren’t getting a decent MLB team in some of these areas any time soon, so IMO might as well move these teams to other markets where owners would feel safer investing in a $150mil payroll. Because right now a third of the league in dead weight in terms of spending.

lacslyer
2 years ago
Reply to  Thatguy47

This is absolutely the problem. Convincing owners who are in contention for the playoffs to pay another 20 million to be more competitive shouldn’t be this hard. Meanwhile most fans of these clubs buy into the small market BS they spew.

Baltimore is projected to be not just in the bottom half but the bottom quarter of the league while fielding a potential 100 win team. If they can’t find 20 million to spend to contend for a WS what the hell are we doing here?

Last edited 2 years ago by lacslyer
Thatguy47
2 years ago
Reply to  lacslyer

And it hurts FAs because there’s no consistency in FA contracts on a year to year basis. Basically getting a good contract comes down to whether the Phillies/Mets/Dodgers/Padres and like 5-6 other teams have cap room.

There’s no way Castellanos was worth $100mil/5yrs 2 years ago & Xander Bogaerts was worth $280mil/11yrs but Matt Chapman’s only worth $54mil/3yrs now. But these big FAs literally ran out of teams that are willing to spend big $ because there’s like 10 of them + 5-10 other teams that are decent in the mid-range market.

This is why you have guys like Bellinger and Chapman including optouts after literally every season. Because getting a good contract is incredibly random. Look at Correa going from $90mil/3 yrs to $200mil/6yrs (and way more than that before physicals) the next year after an identical season + a year older. It all depends on whether like 10 teams are spending and trying to improve.

lacslyer
2 years ago
Reply to  Thatguy47

Right, which is the real problem creating this lull in the free agency market. Because the big spenders do it the first month, while the rest of the top FAs are waiting out the two the three teams that want to actually pay them. If you pushed lower budget teams to make offers this whole problem that isn’t a problem with FAs taking more time to get the contract they want wouldn’t happen.

Don’t be upset about FAs taking their time with contracts, be upset with a third of your league not even giving a damn about offering ANY FA a contract, let alone the top ones.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  lacslyer

It IS that hard if it’s going to put the team in the red. Face it, baseball is a business, and the owners are entitled to make a profit every single year. We don’t know the full financial situations of any of the teams anyway, so even the owners who most seem like cheapskates could very well be spending as much as they reasonably can on their Major League payrolls to still make a decent profit.

However, I will make an exception for John Fisher, who couldn’t even be bothered to pay for proper maintenance for the ballpark as was required in the lease.

Last edited 2 years ago by Lanidrac
lacslyer
2 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

We don’t have the financial statements of most teams, that’s correct, but we do know what these owners are worth, and we know how much they sell the teams for. And I’m sorry, but if you think a team that was just sold for $1.725 BILLION can’t afford a lousy $20 million that wouldn’t even put them at a league average payroll I don’t know what to tell you.

I’m not saying for some teams another $20 million isn’t hard, but the very they don’t disclose finances is purely so they don’t have to explain why they’re making money and not putting more into the on field product. These owners aren’t owning teams to not make money, it just so happens some of them care about winning while doing it.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  lacslyer

You’re forgetting one important thing: Beyond buying the team itself (and whatever comes with it in that initial deal), owners DON’T invest their personal fortunes into their teams (with few exceptions), nor should they! If the choice is between a projected .500 (81 wins) team or a team projected to win 90 games that puts them in the red, the former option is the obvious choice.

As I already said, they are perfectly entitled to make a profit every single year, so the money used to run the teams comes ENTIRELY from the REVENUES of the teams themselves minus those profits.

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

 the owners are entitled to make a profit every single year”

False. They aren’t entitled to a profit any more than any other private business enterprise is entitled to one.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  Thatguy47

The Marlins and Rays are stuck where they are, because they play in the Snowbird State (plus the Rays have a terrible stadium in a bad location).

Thatguy47
2 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

I addressed this in my comment.

The Rays were 22nd in attendance in 2010 and were improving attendance every year for multiple years before ownership let multiple fan favorites go and refused to increase budget in 2010-11.

The Nationals were right behind them in attendance and decided instead to spend money on guys like Jayson Werth and later Scherzer to bolster their core and as a result continued to increase their fanbase and fan interest.

The Marlins were 27th in attendance in 2005 and improving attendance with a few solid years following their WS but refused to spend and squandered local interest. Same thing happened in the mid-2010s following their move to Miami w/ their Stanton/Yelich/Ozuna/Fernandez/Realmuto core. They were around the White Sox and Phillies in attendance for a few years as a 75-80 win team but didn’t spend enough to become real contenders and crashed fan interest after selling off all their players for spare parts.

In every other industry it’s expected that a business will need to invest in order to expand, but in the MLB you have shitty owners who do nothing to generate fan interest and fail to build a durable fanbase as a result, and instead the fans and markets are blamed, as I mentioned, despite evidence to the contrary.

The reason why Marlins/Rays/As fail is because of owners who are happy to mooch off revenue sharing and other revenue streams that are independent of fan support (and require no effort to maintain b/c MLB teams are artificially scarce) instead of investing in building a successful franchise. It’s not because Florida has transplants and old people.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  Thatguy47

The Rays’ attendance was still well below average even in its best years and wouldn’t have gotten much better even if they hadn’t traded away or let their stars walk.

Meanwhile, they COULDN’T increase the budget to keep those guys, BECAUSE they didn’t have the money for it due to all the years of bad attendance and poor media revenue. The same is similar for the Marlins, although I admit that the Marlins often tear things down more than is necessary. You can only invest in and expand a business when you actually have extra money from previous profits available.

The Marlins’ attendance went up for 2-3 years ONLY due to the excitement of a new ballpark, but then it crashed back down again. This happened at least a couple years before they developed that core you mentioned, so no, their attendance still sucked even when they had those guys.

The Nationals at least make a lot more money on things like their TV deal than the Florida teams could ever dream of getting, and unlike the Rays, when they had good teams, their attendance got a lot better than either Florida team has ever drawn save for the first year with the new ballpark in Miami.

The old people on fixed incomes is part of why MLB baseball doesn’t work in Florida, but the transplants don’t have much to do with the problem (unless they’re also Snowbirds). The main issue is that the people with the most money, the Snowbirds, don’t actually live there during baseball season!

Last edited 2 years ago by Lanidrac
Thatguy47
2 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

I’m trying to respond to this but I get hit with a “waiting for approval”. What triggers this? I’ve had comments get hit with this in the past and then just never go through even though they’re not at all inflammatory or divisive.

Thatguy47
2 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

“The Rays’ attendance was still well below average even in its best years and wouldn’t have gotten much better even if they hadn’t traded away or let their stars walk.”

Even a well below average attendance would be drastically different than where they are now, and would likely allow profitability with a healthy 9 figure payroll. And we don’t know whether it would’ve gotten better because they traded their stars without even remotely trying to build up their payroll and business. They’re a new team that needs to develop a new fanbase and they’ve barely tried to achieve that.

“Meanwhile, they COULDN’T increase the budget to keep those guys, BECAUSE they didn’t have the money for it due to all the years of bad attendance and poor media revenue.”

It’s called investing. Every business is in the red on loans and in debt while it expands operations. The owners had no interest in doing this because they clearly don’t believe in the idea of creating a successful MLB franchise in Florida. They had bad attendance and revenue because they were a new team that needed to develop a relationship with fans and never committed to that.

lacslyer
2 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

A key factor with the Rays’ attendance is their ballpark, primarily its location. This is very well known. I mean, you don’t get a half empty stadium for a playoff game of a team that started the year 50-22 if the ballpark isn’t a significant factor for this.

Without detailed financial records its hard to debate whether or not a team can afford to pay more for the on field product (which is the intent, so teams can claim small market while making plenty of money that could have been spent on payroll). But we have information such as the Rays having a revenue of $248 million in 2022, with an operating cost of only 9.5 million and a payroll of $98 million that year. Finally, the only other factor we can easily figure the finances on is their lease, which they pay $.50 for every ticket up to 3.3 million tickets, then it’s reduced to $.25 per ticket. The attendance in 2022 was 1.13 million, meaning they paid about $550,000 for their lease in 2022.

So, even accounting for all that we can find records on, we’re still talking about roughly $140 million the Rays made in 2022 that likely didn’t go to the team in any capacity. Even if you’re conservative about it and suggest they put more money into the team facilities, or investments like analytics and development programs, the owner likely walked away with well over $100 million in 2022 alone.

To top this all off, in 2023, with that far more successful season than in 2022, the team saw an attendance spike increase of 27%.

Final note, the Rays owner is worth nearly a billion dollars right now with the team valued at $1.25 billion. He bought it for $200 million in 2004.

Last edited 2 years ago by lacslyer
lacslyer
2 years ago
Reply to  lacslyer

Quick note since I can’t edit again. All of this information was acquired due to the team evaluation in March of ’23. This is the only way we can really view finances of these teams that don’t disclose them, but it’s not going to be perfect.

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  Thatguy47

The reason why Marlins/Rays/As fail is because of owners who are happy to mooch off revenue sharing and other revenue streams that are independent of fan support (and require no effort to maintain b/c MLB teams are artificially scarce) instead of investing in building a successful franchise. It’s not because Florida has transplants and old people.”

This 100%. Absolute best comment I’ve seen in a while.

AlMember since 2016
2 years ago

The headline, the subhead, the article. Just phenomenal work all around.

OddBall Herrera
2 years ago

There have to be more nuanced solutions to this than a signing window. Ex: “if you sign before Dec 31 the qualifying offer loss of a pick penalty is waived”, “if you sign before Dec 31 only x% of your contract counts towards luxury tax”…something that incentivizes rather than brute force removes bargaining power.

TKDCMember since 2016
2 years ago

I like this idea, and I think if you have this you could even have a blackout period. Maybe make the deadline for the incentivized signing be December 15 and then there can’t be signings until February 1. Since the players actually get something in return, and you can’t really take advantage because players would still have a couple weeks to sign before spring training.

No trades, too. Nothing. Let everyone take an effing break.

Richie
2 years ago

Pretty much entirely a Big Boss with nothing to do right at the moment, but he wants to do and be seen doing SOMEthing, dadgumit! Helps justify his insane Big Boss salary.

Big Boss things are best tolerated till they go away on their own. Even when it’s from your own Big Boss. You may have to conjure up some arguably-related busywork in those such circumstances, tho’.

dangledangleMember since 2024
2 years ago

Is Chapman a tenor? Is he going to the Moulin rouge under the singing contract?

CC AFCMember since 2016
2 years ago

It’s generous to stipulate that the flurry of activity model would be desirable as regards publicity, as well. People kinda forget about baseball during the December/January holiday timeframe, anyway, because of college and pro football playoffs and Christmas basketball. But you’re definitely guaranteeing they’re gonna forget about it for all times outside of a signing window. It seems like such a bad pr idea, I’d argue it’s transparently an attempt to add a new way to suppress wages. I don’t think the pr angle holds up even a little.

Lil NubberMember since 2026
2 years ago

Worth noting that for all of the scoop-hounds saying a condensed signing period would lead to more overall attention, the BBWAA does the exact opposite with its end of season awards.

keithk
2 years ago

Almost everything that Manfred suggests or supports is bad for baseball. If he prefers a signing period then it would almost certainly be terrible. Gratuitous shots at the commish aside, I just don’t understand why a short burst of publicity would be particularly good for the game. I follow baseball news here and on mlbtr all winter long; why would I want to limit my attention to only one or two weeks? This seems to me like a case of wanting to do what the other guys are doing regardless of whether it makes sense. Same thing as trying to make the draft into a big TV event because basketball and football do it, even though very few MLB draftees are going to show up in a big league stadium any time soon.

PC1970Member since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  keithk

Honestly, I think the 2 week window, at least with the hammer/nail approach mentioned, would be worse. Yeah, you’d have a flurry of activity, but, I think it might also be too much to digest to have 15-20 top FA’s players all sign in a 2 week span…esp if lesser players also signed during that span.

You’d have so much at once there wouldn’t be the bandwidth to catch it all & you’d miss a lot of transactions & the kind of deep dive analysis fans of this site like would be impossible to digest because there would be too much happening at once.

Plus poor Ben, Meg, Dan, Michael, etc would be working 100+hour weeks leading up to Christmas!

Obviously, this year has been weird & not good, either..but, I tend to think it’s fluky due the reasons the article states.

Last edited 2 years ago by PC1970
WebsMember since 2020
2 years ago

Eisenhower won the Western Front. The Soviet Union won the war in Europe.

But I can forgive the factual error for the wordplay.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  Webs

If you want to get that technical about it, the war wasn’t over with just victory in Europe. It didn’t end entirely until the U.S. nuked Japan.

Anyway, you can still say Eisenhower won WWII in that he was a major military leader on the winning side.

JCCfromDCMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  Webs

The Allies – all of them – won the war in Europe. The Soviets couldn’t have won it without the western allies, and the western allies couldn’t have won it without the herculean efforts of the Russian people.

I nearly wrote a longer response, but that’s enough for a baseball site. And I also enjoyed the wordplay in the article. FWIW the English believe that Montgomery won the war in the west despite Eisenhower. But they’re subject to propaganda

brokenarrowMember since 2025
2 years ago

I don’t think this would have a monumental effect, but if players salaries were pro-rated across spring training as well as the regular season, it would create some incentive to get deals done, to not forgo a percentage of the contract for time missed during spring. It wouldn’t solve this issue, but seems like a win-win for both side (players getting paid in the spring, more deals done early)

TKDCMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  brokenarrow

There would be a lot to work out with the way fringe contracts are often structured. I also wonder how much this would move the needle? There’s already an incentive, especially for starting pitchers, to get to Spring Training on time, and here we are with the two remaining big-time holdouts being starting pitchers.

ashlandateam
2 years ago

If Matt Chapman was an NHL winger, he’d be looking at $4-6 mil a year for the next 4 years. If Snell gets $25 mil a year, he’ll almost double the highest paid player in that league.

You want other leagues’ free agencies? You can have them. But that’s what it would look like. There’s a flurry of activity in the other leagues because in a capped league, there’s less money than players, and so everyone strikes when they can. In baseball, there’s more money than players, and so these delays happen. My guess is the MLBPA understands that, and would love free agency to be left alone.

WebsMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  ashlandateam

The NHL has a hard cap. And much less revenue as a league.

shampain
2 years ago

“Frustrated by Montgomery’s inaction? So was General Eisenhower, and he won World War II anyway.”

In this analogy Eisenhower represents Manfred, right?

I’m not really sure what you’re advocating for here. No one is happy with the current situation. I understand why the players don’t love the owners’ proposal, but is there a counter-proposal?

B/c if not then we’re going to stay in this war of attrition, which the owners will inevitably win. The current system is the one in which the owners have the most power. They have no spending floors and no requirement to share revenue with players. They have access to multiple inexpensive talent streams, and if those dry up it’s okay because the other owners make sure they don’t go bankrupt. They can’t get relegated, but they can relocate their teams to whichever city gives them the best offer. It’s the best of all possible worlds for them. They can be complacent, they can cheap out in perpetuity.

The players get zero say in any of this. An increasing percentage of them don’t get the security the system of guaranteed contacts is supposed to give them because they simply don’t get offered those contacts; talent is too abundant in the game today to induce those offers. The players have to come up with a way to induce scarcity to drive up prices or else anyone with a WAR projection under 3 is never going to get a huge contact again.

I 100% agree that there is no reason to trust the owners, which is why it’s so frustrating that the current system is the one that requires the most trust of them. Or, as you put it: “That’s the real problem: Free agency seems to be an optional activity, even for teams that want to be good.”

Under the current system it is optional! Not “seems to be optional”, literally is optional. The players trust the owners to participate, they cannot compel them to participate. That is the problem, and it’s a problem that cannot be resolved without moving to some type of floor/cap/revenue-split model as other sports unions have already realized.

So I’d like to see FG do some analysis of pathways forward that don’t rely on the owners coming to Jesus by some miracle.

JCCfromDCMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  shampain

You’re overthinking the line. Baumann was just using the inaction around Jordan Montgomery’s free agency to engage in wordplay about Monty. Which I thought was *chef’s kiss*

KennyMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  shampain

The answer is a massive wave of expansion. Expand to 40 teams – two 20-team leagues – which would create more scarcity for talent.

Thatguy47
2 years ago

“Given the hesitancy teams have shown when it comes to signing veteran free agents — particularly those below the top tier — I find it unlikely that anyone short of a Shohei Ohtani or Corey Seager-level superstar would even get offered a multi-year contract. Why get into a bidding war when you can wait until Day 8 and go back to the days of perpetual one-year contracts? At best, as one agent told Gonzalez, teams would only deliver their best offers right up against the deadline.“

Uh, because then 29 teams would lose out on signing any given FA for an incredibly affordable salary if they don’t get their call in on time? And to avoid this risk teams would make offers earlier at still agreeable rates, to the point that players’re paid roughly market value.

I don’t care for the signing window idea, but it doesn’t seem like you’ve thought at all about how markets function.

shampain
2 years ago
Reply to  Thatguy47

He’s not interested in how markets function, he just wants to make owners poorer and players richer for its own sake. Which is fine, but it’s also not constructive.

przygodaMember since 2022
2 years ago

“Oakland hasn’t signed a major league free agent to a multi-year contract since December 3, 2019.“ this should be something that bothers all fans, players, agents, and owners.

bcraw35Member since 2024
2 years ago

Free agency deadline and a salary floor. Make it happen.

Last edited 2 years ago by bcraw35