What Do the Brewers Do Now?
Ryan Braun’s performance-enhancing drug saga is ongoing, and nobody seems to know with any certainty how it will end. Unfortunately, the Milwaukee Brewers are part of that large group eagerly awaiting the outcome. The Brewers aren’t going to re-sign Prince Fielder and now stand to potentially lose their best player for almost a third of the season.
But what do they do?
The team is mired in a strange situation. Do they replace him? Can they replace him? What happens if they spend money to replace him and he doesn’t end up getting suspended? Can they spend money? Realistically, payroll is probably close to its limit right now. Even if Mark Attanasio decides to increase spending, the best way to use those funds remains unclear.
On one hand, idly standing by in the face of his suspension could create an ugly situation: the team might be far from contention by the time he returns, and there is no guarantee that either Zack Greinke or Shaun Marcum will sign extensions. On the other hand, signing a talented player — perceived as a starter around the league — could create a logjam when Braun returns, or if he never leaves to begin with. While this isn’t ideal for the Brewers themselves, it opens up an important strategic dialogue.
Say the Brewers were afraid Braun will miss 50 games, and then need another 10-14 to get back into ‘beast mode’. Hypothetically, they could express interest in free agent Carlos Beltran, who provides the best offense at the position of anyone available. He would roam left field while Braun served his suspension and spend the remainder of the season as an all-purpose outfielder. If Braun is never suspended, then the team has five starting outfielders for three spots, and the best offensive alignment would dictate either Beltran or Corey Hart playing center field, which is far from optimal defensively. The team would also end up committing multiple years to Beltran when 2012 is the only year up in the air.
Sure, Beltran’s bat would cut into Bruan’s lost offense — relative to starting Nyjer Morgan and Carlos Gomez in the same outfield — but the Brewers would lose a great deal on defense. There is also the issue that a player in Beltran’s position wouldn’t find Milwaukee a desirable destination. The Brewers aren’t clear contenders this season, so it makes no sense for someone perceived as a valuable starter to enter a situation where he might not play everyday, or may play a different position daily. That, actually, is a major reason why attempting to replace Braun’s offense won’t work: the players capable of accomplishing that goal won’t want to sign with the Brewers and end up in a timeshare.
If they were convinced that cutting into his lost offense was the best route, then it might make more sense to talk to the Astros about Carlos Lee.
He isn’t a great hitter anymore and his defensive deficiencies in the outfield persist, regardless of his UZR last season, but he has one year remaining on his contract and the Astros will pick up most of the tab. Lee could start in left while Braun served his suspension, and probably shift to first base upon his return. Mat Gamel and Taylor Green are young prospects with very good minor league track records, but Lee could add some depth at the position should one or both struggle.
But offense might not be the best route for the Brewers. Braun’s offense cannot be replaced, so why not go the opposite route and try to throw out a top-notch defense in his absence? Start Nyjer in left, Gomez in center and Hart in right. When Gomez inevitably slumps, shift Nyjer to center and play Scott Hairston (they would have to sign him for this to make any sense) in left. Hairston can post a .335 wOBA with average-ish defense in left, or serve as a very useful fourth outfielder and pinch-hitter. Morgan-Gomez-Hart doesn’t look like much, but the former two rate very positively on defense, and Hart’s offense certainly makes up for a UZR in the -1 to -4 range.
Losing Braun for 50 games will clearly hamper the Brewers odds of repeating as division champs, but in his absence the offseason solution that makes the most sense is probably the defensive route. Attempting to replace his offense could create more problems while costing much more money. Replacing his defense is a strategy undertaken internally with perhaps just $2-$3 million more spent on a Hairston-esque fourth outfielder. It obviously isn’t the ideal, but this likely represents the best possible lemonade they can make from the lemons they have available.
Eric is an accountant and statistical analyst from Philadelphia. He also covers the Phillies at Phillies Nation and can be found here on Twitter.
In Braun’s absence the Brewers should go:
C-Lucroy
1b-Pena
2b-Weeks
3b-Ramirez
SS-Gonzlaez
LF-Hart
CF-Gomez
RF-Morgan
They’d gain a lot on defense. And when Braun comes back in 25-50 games, Morgan and Gomez can platoon CF. In a weaker NL Central, they would still be in the race.
They have stated they are already maxed out for payroll, so there will be no adding of Pena.
They should sign Beltran. No way Braun avoids a suspension. What kind of example would that send. Fans should hold on to hope with Fielder,although chances are slim. For the sake of his career, Prince should sign withan AL team. Teams who could use him the most? Toronto, Baltimore,Texas and Seattle. It would make a great deal of sense for Detroit,if Cabrera could move back to 3rd.The meat of that order would be V-Mart,Cabrera and Fielder. It doesnt get much better then that. In the NL, it would make tons of sense for the Cubs to make a statement, but the won’t. Another obvious choice would be St, Louis.. In the end, he may just stay with MIL.
Also, why in the world would they bat Lucroy leadoff? He’s doesn’t walk, hit for average, and isn’t fast. You should probably at least do one of those things if you’re going to lead off.
At the risk of killing the joke, that wasn’t a batting order.
Oh. Duh. :/ I’m dumb as hell.
I imagine, given the comments from Melvin since the Ramirez signing, that even if the Brewers wanted to sign an additional outfielder they would be unable to sign anyone of substance. The more likely scenario is the play 50 games with what they have or move Marcum for help (should Braun be suspended).
The Beltran/Lee option is ludicrous. Also, Matt Gamel may be a somewhat promising prospect, but even he can’t play 1B and LF at the same time.
50 games without Braun costs the Brewers 2-3 wins. Just not a big deal though obviously those wins could be the difference between playoffs and missing by 1 game. Hard to make a drastic plan over that. Spend the money at the trade deadline if it makes sense then.
3 wins would imply he’s a 9+ WAR player *and* that his replacement would be literally replacement level.
They’ll sub in Morgan/Gomez/Schafer and it will probably cost them one win or less. I don’t see what the big deal is…
Au Contraire. Brauns presence,without Fielder, is that much more important. I would say 4to 5 wins difference. I f yo want to fall behind early, you may not be able to catch up.
Cistulli talked about it yesterday, but I think they should holler at the Angels about taking on some salary to alleviate them of their glut of outfielders. They have a giant logjam, an payroll stretched paper thin, and the Brewers have a clear need. I wonder if the Angels would pay half of Torii Hunters salary in exchange for a C-prospect and someone else taking helping them out with $9mil.
The Angels would be motivated but the poster a bit higher up said the Crew are maxed out on salary?
At this point the Angels should really be calling anybody and everybody. Maybe even sending out little buyer’s pamphlets on Hunter or Abreu, heck throw Trumbo or even Wells in there if somebody is foolish enough to take on Vernon.
They can free up cash by trading K-Rod, obviously, and look to add a corner OFer that way. That player can play LF with Braun out, and move to RF once Gamel inevitably struggles in April and May, with Hart making the also inevitable move to 1B. As far as who they could add, maybe a young, cheap, upside guy like Nolan Reimold, or Josh Reddick? Lee trade doesn’t make sense because Astros would have to eat a lot of the money, and the Brewers can’t pay the salary or prospect price it would take, plus he would only be a one-year solution, and as was stated they may not contend this year. After going all out last year, this club is a big question mark this year and going forward.
God I would love to trade K-Rod for Reddick. The Red Sox still need a closer, right?
At this point, I think Lee as a one-year solution is actually preferable, considering that if they don’t extend Greinke (amongst other things) they might have to blow things up after 2012.
Lee makes a ton of sense, because he can play first when Braun returns. If Gamel forces his way onto the field, just bench Lee. Otherwise, Gamel can part-time this year and start next year when Lee’s contract expires.
Bench an $18 mil player? Also, Gamel is going to be 27 this summer, why wait til next year?
The answer to both of those questions is “Because you can and doing so might be the best for the team.”
He wouldn’t be an $18 M player for the Brewers as the Astros would probably have to eat $15 M just to trade him.
If they can get Lee for about 3-4M they should do it.
Also, they should be ACTIVELY looking into trading KRod, maybe make a deal where a team gives them an outfielder/1B on a one year contract. If the Angels would have interest in bringing KRod back, they can trade them Abreu or Morales? He would be a better closer than Walden, and it would put them in a better chance to win now, and lessen the logjam in OF/1B/DH.
No they should not ACTIVELY be looking to trade K-Rod. That’s a surefire way to get 60cents on the dollar.
What can they realistically expect to get for a 13M closer in an overcrowded market? Swapping him for another high priced player in a position of need would be a good move, but I do understand teams will be looking for them to give him away since they seemingly got stuck with him.
I believe they can cut him and only owe him 1/6th of his salary (for spring training). Arbitration salaries are not guaranteed.
So I think they can wait until right before the season starts and then decide if he’s worth ~$10mil or if they can get any value for him in a trade. That gives them enough time to figure out if Braun will be suspended or not. It also gives them time to evaluate Gamel and Green.
I think the Brewers will (and should) stand pat until a trade opportunity presents itself for K-Rod. I have to imagine teams are lowballing for K-Rod because they think the Brewers have to deal him. That gives some time for the Braun situation to clear up a little.
This and your above response. It makes no sense to deal K-Rod now. Injuries always occur during spring training. He could end up closing games in Milwaukee. If they want salary relief, cut him at the end of spring training.
The Brewers pitched their way to the division title last year and K-Rod was a big part of that. I’m fine keeping him, if the owner is fine with the increased payroll. Mark A is one of the 3 best owners in baseball. He has demonstrated that he will take high leverage risks to make his club better.
Luke Scott can play OF/1B. Not sure what type of contract he’d be willing to take.
Luke Scott can “play” “OF”.
Seriously, though, that wouldn’t be a bad option.
Good suggestion.
Except Scott still wants to be an everyday player (or nearly so) and will have a harder time doing that w/ the Brew Crew since there’s no DH.
OTOH, maybe that will actually play into MIL’s hands, if they remain patient. Scott just might end up remaining available on the market long enough to be a good fit for MIL since what he wants doesn’t exactly match what teams look for these days (unless he’s willing to sign very cheaply regardless of playing time)…
This is a similar situation to what the Cardinals are in with Allen Craig due to injury. He might not miss any time, but might miss 1-2 months… How do you build your roster to account for both scenarios at the same time?
I would guess the Cards have a bit more money to use after losing out on Albert, but it will be interesting to see how they play it….
The Cards should sign Beltran. He plays RF against righties and CF against lefties (once Craig is healthy), since Jon Jay has a pronounced platoon split. When Craig is healthy, Craig bounces between RF against lefties, and LF and 1B when Holliday and Berkman are banged up and/or need a day off. None of these guys can be counted on for 650-700 PAs anyway.
I’d take a flyer on Manny Ramirez on a one-year contract. He can fill in for Braun in LF and at the plate, temporarily, and be a 4th OF upon his return. Plus, since his retirement nonsense, he should be available for relatively cheap.
Except, wait. Man-Ram’s suspended 50 games also, isn’t he. Nevermind.
Doesn’t Manny have to sit out the first 50 games of next season?
Maybe he can sit out games 51-100, so he and Braun can just swap beach house and dugout a third of the way through the season.
Ramirez is so stupid. Presumably he could have waited the 50 games out last year and then “retired” after those 50 games and wouldn’t have to sit out 1 game this year. Surely his agent knew this, too.
except last year, it was 100 games.
I would look into left handed platoon quality outfielders. Jason Kubel seems like a fit on the surface, although for some reason there is talk of him signing a multi-year deal. In the trade market, Seth Smith would make a lot of sense. Smith could platoon with Morgan or Gomez.
To me, it does not make sense to sign a full time option at this time.
Supposedly, Ryan Braun had herpes and he got a legal drug to treat it. This drug set off the test. Braun is thinking about a lawsuit because of the HIPA laws. Google ryan braun herpes and you’ll see the story. I’m not sure of the legitimacy of the comments, but this COULD become the first positive test overturned by the MLB
Your name makes it hard to take your previously unreported story seriously….
don’t know the Brewers’ system that well; Cubs need pitching – what could the crew give the Cubs for Brian LaHair? 1B/OF, last year .288/.377/.508/.885
No love for Logan Schafer in the OF? I’d take a chance on him over the perpetually dissapointing Gomez.
They could do a Billy Beane-type signing where you have a guy fully intending to trade him mid-way. That would alleviate part of the financial problem. Sign a guy and then trade him once braun comes back. Have him more like a place holder. A guy like Pena, then as long as he produces (not a sure thing) you could trade him. Their farm isn’t all that strong so maybe even help that out slightly too.
I get that people need to occupy their offseason by coming up with weird roster situations, but the Brewers are not adding anyone just to fill in for Braun’s potential 50 game suspension.
They will go Morgan-Gomez-Hart with Logan Schafer and Caleb Gindl filling in, and it will probably cost them one win or less in terms of WAR.
Sign Cuddyer.
Braun’s appeal still hasn’t come back and, if you believe the reports, he’s already known about the result for months before we did.
So in a case that’s a long drawn out appeal instead of the league’s quick refutal of the player (as I remember in the Manny Ramirez case), Braun seems to have a legit shot at being clean and playing all year. Why take so much time to make sure? Because there’s a lot of doubt around Braun’s tests.
Crew won bidding rights to OF N. Aoki for $2.5MM. LH hitter, played CF in Japan, 3x league batting champion, turns 30 in Jan.
Aoki looks like that plan B if Braun faces a suspension. BTW, Braun will only end up with a 25 day because it will be deemed non-performance enhancing. No way he gets nothing as the current drug testing rules are near impossible to beat. Best case – 25 games.