What Is Marwin Gonzalez Doing?
Chatter has been picking up that Major League Baseball will introduce a pitch clock in 2018. It’s felt like an inevitable development for some time, with the clock having been in place in the upper minors for the last few years. Reactions have been mixed, because reactions are always mixed, but the pitch clock is coming, and it’s probably going to be fine. We’ll get used to it, everyone will get used to it, and the game will remain by and large the same.
I made a point about the pitch clock last week. According to early reports, the proposed clock would only be used when the bases are empty, and I pointed out that the game only really slows down after somebody reaches. When there’s a runner on base, pitchers have more to worry about, so it makes sense that they’d work slower. But I don’t want to make this all about pitchers. We tend to think of pitchers as being responsible for dictating the pace. They are, after all, the guys holding the baseballs. But in any at-bat, there are two parties involved. As Buster Olney wrote in his report, no batter in the National League averaged more time between pitches than Odubel Herrera. And no batter in either league averaged more time between pitches than Marwin Gonzalez.
On average last year, overall, there were 24.2 seconds between pitches. For Gonzalez, that average was 29.5. That was up from the previous year’s 27.2, and up from his career low of 24.4. Pitching to Gonzalez was most recently 22% slower than pitching to a league-average hitter. Just as a pitch clock will make certain pitchers hurry up, it would have the same effect on certain hitters. At least, given proper enforcement.
I imagine we can mostly agree that’s a good thing. There’s baseball’s normal, familiar pace, and there are the players who push it too far. Wasted seconds benefit no one, and there’s no need for there to be just two pitches every minute. Players will need to maintain a good tempo. What effect this all ultimately has, we’ll have to see. Yet there’s one question we can answer right now: What in the heck is Marwin Gonzalez even doing?
How does Gonzalez take so much time? I went to the video. I didn’t go hunting for any pitch in particular. I just wound up at a game between the Astros and the Phillies. In the video below, you see Gonzalez standing in — or, very nearly standing in — against Aaron Nola. Nola works a little slower than the average pitcher, but he’s not one of those extreme slowpokes. Gonzalez is one of those extreme slowpokes. According to the pitch-tracker data, there were 29 seconds between these consecutive pitches.
There’s no one on base. It’s early in the count. While Nola is just about finished for the day, you see two outs, and a five-run Phillies lead. Very low pressure. No foul ball. No off-balance swing attempt. No pitch in the dirt. No time-out, or re-cycle of the pitch signs. Somehow, 29 seconds, with the camera mostly staying on Gonzalez. Let’s review how Gonzalez passed the time.
Gonzalez took the strike call. He showed bunt all the way, but he never really committed to it. It was mostly an excuse for him to watch the pitch closely. Maybe he thought he should’ve bunted after all. Maybe he didn’t like the strike call from the umpire. Gonzalez stood straight up in the box, momentarily. It’s good to see hitters stay in the box. Makes you think they’re going to work quickly. Great, good pitch, show me another! That’s what someone might’ve thought. That someone would be someone insufficiently familiar with Marwin Gonzalez.
Rearranging dirt. Dirt doesn’t just end up where it ends up by accident. Sometimes it gets rearranged.
One thing I wish didn’t happen is that the camera cut away to another feed. Gonzalez remained on the screen, but we don’t get to see the same angle. I can’t prove to you that Gonzalez stepped out of the box. But, Gonzalez stepped out of the box. Way out, completely out, with both of his feet and his whole entire body. In the screenshot above, you see Gonzalez leaving the box. In the video, he takes another several steps. Gonzalez just went for a walk. This is one of his habits.
If you believe that would be against the rules, you would be correct!
The rules just aren’t enforced. They used to be, for a short time, when first implemented, but, well, umpires already have enough to worry about, and they don’t want to make any enemies. What’s an extra second here or there? They’re just seconds, right? They’re all just seconds. Every additional 10 minutes is just a collection of seconds. No one cares about the rules anymore, so Marwin Gonzalez takes a walk between pitches. He doesn’t go all the way to the grass, like some players used to do, but Gonzalez just leaves the plate. He rearranges the dirt and walks away from it, because, isn’t life amazing? He gets to spend his life playing major-league baseball. Wow!
Gotta screw the bat barrel and handle together. They aren’t actually two separate parts, haphazardly fastened, but, just in case, gotta screw ’em together. Can never be too safe.
Gonzalez: I wonder how far back my finger can bend
Gonzalez: wow
Gonzalez: Pretty far!
Gonzalez: I wonder if that’s too far
Gonzalez: I wonder if I need a doctor
Sometimes you wonder what it would be like to carry a bindle. No one carries bindles anymore, but maybe they could. You just hold it like so.
Here we have Gonzalez digging in. He has approached the plate, at last, once more. Now, in truth, digging in is just another form of rearranging dirt, but there’s a critical difference between this kind of rearranging dirt and the earlier rearranging dirt. Earlier, Gonzalez rearranged dirt where nobody stands. Here he’s digging exactly where he stands. A hitter needs to be careful, because if you dig in too much, you end up in China.
Gonzalez makes sure the top of his body is still there.
Gonzalez makes sure the top of his bat is still there.
Here we have Gonzalez giving the plate a little tap. That’s the universal sign for “okay, I’m ready to resume doing this now.” It’s Gonzalez letting the pitcher know he can get back to doing his job. So, was the next pitch just around the corner? The broadcast declared with confidence that, no, so here’s a commercial.
We don’t and can’t know what Gonzalez did while this ad flashed briefly on the screen, but if I had to guess, he probably rearranged some dirt.
Gonzalez stood in with legs bent. It’s a comfortable, relaxed-looking pose. Perhaps the secret to Gonzalez’s 2017 breakout was that he more often got to bat with a clear head. This could be because, between every pitch, he scheduled for himself a therapy micro-appointment. Nola stood staring on the mound, one new loose hair lying upon his shoulder.
So concludes our Marwin Gonzalez walk-through. He didn’t take so many seconds *every* time. Sometimes he would speed up, because the pitcher would be right there on the rubber, waiting. A fast pitcher speeds up the hitter, just as a slow pitcher can have the opposite effect. But it’s not like we’re dealing with a small sample. Gonzalez saw a whole lot of pitches, and a lot of time passed between them. No batter had a slower pace in the major leagues. Sometimes Gonzalez did himself no favors by grabbing a bat that didn’t have any pine tar on it.
A delay like that — that’s an exception. That’s just an innocent brain fart. There’s a lot for a player to keep track of. But Gonzalez’s overall pace was no accident. Sure, he made himself a tough hitter. And sure, because he was on the Astros, he batted pretty often in stressful situations. Nevertheless, out of every regular in the game, Marwin Gonzalez batted with the slowest pace. Every batter takes a step away, but not every batter takes another eight or nine. Gonzalez shows that hitters, too, will be affected by a pitch clock. That is, if anyone pays attention to it. Jury’s out on that one.
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Just like any kid in his backyard, he got caught day dreaming about what it would be like to homer off Kenley Jansen in the 9th inning of a World Series game.
And just like any kid in his backyard, I wondered where you’d end up if you dug a whole straight through the planet from Philadelphia.
Jeff is wrong. Gonzalez wasn’t digging to China; he was digging to the Indian Ocean off the southwest coast of Australia.
Very amusing, Jeff! Thought I can’t help but wonder if this article is here only because the Hot Stove is encased in a block of Ice right now…..
He’s probably just contemplating how he keeps putting up numbers but FanGraphs keep slagging on his peripheral numbers ;).
The time between pitches is part of how he outperforms peripherals. Lulls the defense into a lack of concentration, allowing him to outperform his Statcast xwOBA on balls in play.
Staring into the void, realizing that he’s had his career year and it’s all downhill from here until the inevitable death alone.
I will not tolerate any Marwin slander here
On whether he is allowed to step completely out, wouldn’t what he did count as a “feints a bunt”?
Caveat: I do hope MLB does something to speed up game. Not sure if pitch clock will matter much.
I don’t think that counts as feinting a bunt. I imagine that’s in there to cover a legitimate bunt attempt, so that it’s not treated any differently than an actual swing. Gonzalez didn’t feint a bunt. He just held the bat different while doing nothing.
When reading the article before clicking, I immediately knew what this article was about. Was this because I can see the future? No. Many a baseball fan, even most Astros fans have sat watching the field, or screen and thought…”what the heck is Marwin doing?”
It will be interesting to see if MLB actually penalizes him for doing hopscotch in the box, or if Marwin can keep his awesome breakout going while having to actually follow the pitch clock rules being implemented.
Do we know who the slowest pitcher was this season? Couldn’t find it in the leaderboards, but would be fun to see Marwin against this season’s version if Jose Contreras, as they both stare into space contemplating their existence and polish their landscaping skills on the nearest misallocated dirt.
Starters, minimum 100 IP: Matt Garza/Sonny Gray (28.4)
Relievers, minimum 30 IP: Pedro Baez (31.1)
You can create a custom leaderboard; the last stat you can choose from on pitching leaderboards is Pace.
So… two of the biggest areas MLB is looking to improve are 100% umpire-caused?
Too low a strike zone, where umpires don’t enforce the rules through calling strikes below the rule book zone, and too slow of time between pitches, where umpires don’t enforce the rules and allow batters to walk around and wait.
#BringBackNotGraphs
Only thing I could think of the entire time I was reading this article
#Fangifs
Gonzalez: I wonder how far back my finger can bend
Gonzalez: wow
Gonzalez: Pretty far!
I would like to formally nominate this post for the 2017 Pulitzer Prize in the category of drama.
just another example of something that drives me crazy about MLB. commish wants to increase pace of play, and makes new rules to try to do that. but there are already rules in place to quicken the game, but they are never enforced! just enforce the goddamn rules that already exist!
Maybe the umpires should allow pitchers a little more leeway in terms of what is prohibited as a quick pitch (a looser interpretation of “before the batter is reasonably set in the batter’s box”). I understand there’s a genuine safety concern, but there should be a middle ground somewhere.
If you enjoyed this post, you might also enjoy one of my favorite Jeff posts ever:
https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/what-have-new-pace-rules-meant-for-troy-tulowitzki/
All I can think of is the Tulowitzki version of this article.
marwin = darwin
whatever works
Random question: Can someone explain to me how the “most popular” post gets decided? Page clicks? Comments? Whatever the editors like? I’ve been trying to figure it out for a while, and I can’t guess it.
Hilarious. Never understood the obsession with leaving the box… The only time I left the box was on a foul ball.
The attention to defense and emphasis on strikeouts means the game isn’t getting shorter on the that side of the ball. The strategy used to be: Attack, Get Ahead, Get a Defensive Swing. Now that so many batters swing for the fences in any count, pitchers have to treat those 0-2 and 1-2 counts as 2-0 and 3-1.
I feel like I saw a lot more first pitch offspeed this year, but been to lazy to look it up.
Somehow the best thing I’ve read in days is always something Jeff wrote.
How does he do that?
Yes. Yes. Yes. I love Marwin and the Astros, but I’ve been frustrated many times with how long it takes him to get back in the box and get ready.
The delay of hitters, primarily, and non-enforcement of the rules is slowly killing baseball’s pace. There’s just too much inaction during the “action,” augmented by the half-inning commercial breaks…….and it all wastes too much time. Slow pitchers are just icing on the over-baked cake……
Great article, Jeff. One thing: guys often put tar on the handle above where they typically hold the bat so they can squeeze it a bit against their batting gloves between pitches for some extra stick. Looks like that’s what Marwin is doing when he’s attempting to screw the bat together. I’m sure you already knew that though and were just playing out the light-hearted nature of the post, but I couldn’t help but expound on the topic
I applaud marwin Gonzalez for doing what it took in 2017 to become an elite hitter.
If marwin Gonzalez is 5 seconds per pitch slower than the average player, and the average plate appearance is for Point some odd pictures, and each game has approximately 80 plate appearances, then the most time we can save by outline the Marvin Gonzalez’s of this game is 800 seconds, or 13 minutes.
Meanwhile the minimum half inning n reaks or 3 minutes each.
It just seems silly to me to say that the game is too long because of players like marwin Gonzalez. The game is too long because of TV commercials, pure and simple.
Manfrwd may be wishing to receive credit for thinking outside the box with a pitch clock or whatever,, but if he really wants to shorten games , the creative way of doing so would be too realign your revenue streams so that TV commercials are not necessary– or at least not so many of them.
It could be done if there were a will, but I know there is not.
Which is fine, but then somebody needs to speak up for marwin Gonzalez when he gets unfairly maligned, which is what I’m doing here