What Is the Baseball Equivalent of a Slam Dunk?
About a year and a half ago, Jeff Sullivan wrote an article here in which he imagined the baseball equivalent of LeBron James. It’s a fun piece. Check it out. I’m a sucker for cross-sport comparisons, and I’ve been watching more basketball recently, because basketball is fun. Jeff’s article has stuck with me, because it came out right around when I started reading FanGraphs, and it was such a novel concept. I assume the WAR calculations he makes in it are somewhat accurate, because I’ve found it’s good policy to always assume Jeff is right (or at least entertaining enough to always look like he’s right).
That article popped back into my head this past Thursday for reasons unknown. Then, later that night, DeMar DeRozan did this.
That’s a pretty dunk. As Kevin Harlan so eloquently states, DeRozan basically appeared out of thin air and slammed the ball down over poor Ricky Rubio, who just wanted to collect the rebound.
Now, why are we talking about slam dunks? There are no dunks in baseball, as unfortunate as that is. Everything is better with slam dunks. Dunking is one of the most surefire ways in all of sports to get a crowd to lose its collective mind. It doesn’t inspire the pure pandemonium of a Champions League goal or a walk-off home run, but it creates a damn good highlight.
There’s something awe-inspiring about watching one 6-foot-8 behemoth of athleticism jump over another behemoth and shove a basketball through a hoop. DeRozan’s dunk isn’t even the most conspicuous display of pure one-on-one physical dominance. (For that distinction, I nominate this LeBron highlight.) DeRozan’s is the product a bit more of finesse and court awareness. It’s hard to leap up, grab the ball off the backboard, and slam it down onto Ricky Rubio.
As a baseball writer, I got wondering about how the dunk might translate to my favorite sport. Because the Winter Meetings just ended and there’s been a dearth of blockbuster deals in the meantime (no offense to Dexter Fowler), I decided to write about it.
So, we begin with a question: is there an equivalent of a slam dunk in baseball? To find out, we’d need to boil down what makes a dunk awesome. I just spent a paragraph explaining why they’re cool, but what was I really saying?
Dunks are great because:
- They’re an awesome example of one-on-one dominance in a team sport.
- They represent extreme displays of athleticism.
- They cause both the crowd and the broadcaster to lose their minds when done exceptionally well.
Which plays in baseball fit those criteria?
The Straight Steal of Home
There’s an argument to be made that catcher assists (caught stealings, for example) ought to be included here, but those plays involve too many variables. How fast is the pitcher’s delivery to home? What pitch was thrown? Was the first baseman holding the runner on? Was Jon Lester on the mound?
The straight steal of home, though, is a much more singular event. It only happens once in a blue moon, but it’s about as good as base-running ever gets. Jacoby Ellsbury has done it twice, most recently this past year. He also pulled it off with the Red Sox.
The easiest way to make it happen to have a left-handed pitcher on the mound, to have that pitcher choose to throw out of the windup, and to be really freakin’ fast. If the pitcher hasn’t been checking on the runner, and that runner can get a good lead down the line, and if he’s more than a little crazy, he can go for it.
But is it a dunk? Dunks happen pretty often, and seeing a straight steal of home is like seeing a unicorn. And while steals of home are steals off the pitcher, it’s not as much a one-on-one play as a solitary act of madness. How about…
The Ridiculous Outfield Assist
I don’t mean the center fielder throwing out a guy foolishly trying to stretch a single into a double. I mean awe-inspiring feats of arm strength overcoming blistering speed. I mean plays that make you wonder why the league allowed Dr. Evil to attach a “laser” to man’s shoulder. There are two sub-categories of this play: the play at third and the play at home. The play at third is great because it’s usually more of a footrace. How cool is watching a runner dive head first into third, pop up, and pump his fist because he’s safe? How cool is watching a right fielder emphatically tell the runner to grab some pine?
Bo, as you may have heard, knows some things. For one thing, Bo knows that you don’t run on Bo. Just ask Harold Reynolds. He knows all too well that Bo Jackson had a hell of an arm. Here’s another person who knows: Mike Gallego.
Case in point:
That’s pretty close to a dunk. And if you want to talk about the play at home, there’s the above example with Bo and Harold, and there’s this more recent effort from Yoenis Cespedes, too:
But here’s the thing: throwing runners out is a defensive play. It doesn’t earn runs, it prevents them. It’s still a fabulous show of athleticism, but we need some offense. Which leads us to…
The Monster Home Run
You know the type I’m talking about. These are the towering blasts that look like they were shot out of a cannon or the result of a finely tuned trebuchet doing its thing. These are the balls that go flying into the next county and draw a dismayed reaction from the pitcher. Ideally, the batter gives it a long look, and maybe even flips his bat. Hmm, what does that sound like?
This works for a number of reasons. Jose Bautista is a bit of a boisterous man when he’s on the field, and I mean that in a good way. This was a playoff game, and it was a bitterly contested series. Bautista took Sam Dyson deep, threw his bat, and all of Canada simultaneously exploded in a puff of popcorn and confetti. It was the biggest highlight of the playoffs, and has become the defining moment of Bautista’s career. You can get that bat flip on a t-shirt. Kenny Albert called it perfectly, and it even coerced some good commentary from Harold Reynolds.
But did the ball fly far enough? I mean, was that just a regular, run-of-the-mill Rogers Centre Jose Bautista home run? Perhaps. Giancarlo Stanton hit a ball all the way out of Dodger Stadium, but that just doesn’t feel quite right. Let’s try this on for size instead.
Now there’s the stuff.
With that one swing of the bat, Albert Pujols may have broken Brad Lidge for two years. The Astros wound up winning that series, but it wasn’t before Pujols fired a mortar round composed of hide, string and cork at the train tracks on top of Minute Maid Park. The crowd didn’t go wild as much as it had the wind knocked out of it. Pujols walked away from the batter’s box looking like Arnold Schwarzenegger holding a club, and Lidge knew what he had just done. That’s the I-win-you-lose feat of incredible athleticism we’re looking for.
If one man ever dunked on another man while playing baseball, it was Albert Pujols on Brad Lidge. He may not have reached the levels of Shawn Kemp evaporating Alton Lister levels of ridiculousness, but it’s at least up there with DeRozan’s dunk.
When Albert Pujols took Brad Lidge deep, he dunked on him. When Alex Rodriguez took Ryan Dempster deep after Dempster threw at him, he dunked on him.
Yes, Virginia, there are dunks in baseball. You just have to know where to find them.
Nick is a columnist at FanGraphs, and has written previously for Baseball Prospectus and Beyond the Box Score. Yes, he hates your favorite team, just like Joe Buck. You can follow him on Twitter at @StelliniTweets, and can contact him at stellinin1 at gmail.
Swinging strikeout for pitchers.
Yeah. It has to be something that happens several times a game but sometimes is more impressive than others. This fits much better than the above examples which don’t happen every week, much less every day.
Bingo, on a fastball particularly, and I was going to say for the same reason that MikeS said. Outfield assist is closest on this list, but I think it’s dominant swinging K.
I agree, it’s when a hitter knows what is coming (nasty curve, big fastball) and can’t do a thing about it, the pitch is just too good.
Yes this is perfect, especially on a fastball. Its something that almost all major leaguer pitchers can do, and without too much personal effort or difficulty, but almost none of us could do.
I’d add for consideration a first-pitch home run (sudden dominance) and striking out the side (growing dominance).
Now, call me a party pooper, but there’s another thing about dunks: they are almost always successful. Basketball Reference suggests that about 90% of dunks are made (maybe even higher). Crazy long URL alert:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=single&year_id=2015&is_playoffs=N&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=DUNK&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q1=Y&q2=Y&q3=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=12&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fgx
Also, some players dunk CONSTANTLY. On that crazy long URL, DeAndre Jordan attempts 284 dunks! And makes 88.7%! So I guess my response to you would be, there’s not really something in baseball that has an 88% success rate except a really terrible outfielder catching fly balls, or Chris Davis striking out.
I have to agree with you on this. When I think slam dunk, I think of something that anybody in the league regularly does, and usually doesn’t fail. I was thinking of drawing a walk after a 3-0 count, which I’ll admit is kind of boring.
Pitchers successfully laying down sacrifice bunts?
Also: I just thought of a spectacular new event for All-Star weekend.
Homering off a position player
I think it’s specifically the kind of home run where it’s so completely obvious that the ball is gone before the broadcast has time to switch to a different camera feed, the kind where everyone knows it before the batter’s swing is even quite finished. It’s just about the only truly instantaneous play in baseball: an explosion, and then the dawning realization that a thing has already happened.
(Though I’m a big fan of straight steals of home too, and wish people would attempt them more often. As I understand the math, it’s an underrated play when there are two outs.)
The schoolyard slamdunk is all about “In your face. You don’t belong here.”
In baseball, that is the three pitch punchout. All on called fastballs, preferably.
“Good morning.
Good afternoon.
Good night.
Next!”
That sounds like four pitches.
I don’t think it’s especially necessary that they all be called fastballs (though Addison Reed did keep doing that thing with the Mets this year and it was remarkable), but you want the batter to make no contact with any of the pitches (i.e. no foul balls early in the AB), and frankly you want every pitch to be one that makes him look bad. Like, missing a curveball in the dirt by a foot bad, or taking a fastball right down the pipe for strike three bad.
When a pitcher throws a pitch so filthy for strike 3 he starts walking off the mound and towards the dugout immediately. Sometimes he doesn’t even wait for the call.
A strikeout is only a dunk if strike 3 is a swing and miss.
Completely disagree. If the pitcher froze they guy it qualifies.
Tell that to Adam Wainwright when he froze Carlos Beltran on a stupendous curve to end the 2006 NLCS.
The Bautista bat flip is the best.
Depends on the dunk. Lets say it’s a fast break dunk where a layup would result in the same thing. It’s done just to show off, show up, and get the crowd into it.
Closest comp to that is a huge batflip after a homer.
A couple years back Carlos Gomez robbed Joey Votto of what would have been a game tying or go ahead home run in the top of the 9th inning for the final out of the game. I thought that was probably the closest baseball equivalent to getting “posterized”.
Link…http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/63371196/v28729037/cinmil-gomez-robs-a-goahead-homer-to-end-the-game
I was also thinking the closest equivalent would be robbing a HR. Plus it’s a very similar move, athletically speaking.
Inciarte did it against Cespesdes last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi0lI3cV0YQ
Home runs and strikeouts are the dunks of baseball. Outfield assists are blocks, not dunks. Still great, but not dunks.
All non-inside-the-park home runs are dunks. Some are better than others, but they’re all dunks.
A strikeout is only a dunk if strike 3 is a swing and miss.
Hmm… My first thought was a called strike three on something that completely fooled the batter. Like, a guy throws a big looper when the hitter’s expecting a fastball and the batter just watches it drop right through the middle of the zone and shakes his head as he walks away. Probably not the best example, as it’s not so much athleticism as guile, but maybe kinda works if you squint.
But yeah, a mammoth home run is probably the easiest/most apt comparison.
Watching right handed batters swing at a pitch from Andrew Miller that then almost hits their feet is pretty close to this.
I wish we had statcast for that Pujols homer.
Slam dunks are not commonplace, but neither are they exceptionally rare. I would say that a regular home run robbery counts.
It’s the no doubt home run for me. The batter stands to watch, the pitcher hangs his head, the outfielder freezes in place without so much as a turn or a look, the crowd gasps then roars.
I think the dunk is 2 things
1) a physical display of ability
combined with
2) a physical display of dominance within a moment.
I think this Clayton Kershaw curve expresses those 2 ideas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HjkXwjY7Hs
I prefer a called strike to a swinging strike as a swinging strike can be a physical error on the part of the hitter. Whereas a with a swinging strike, the hitter could just look on as he was bested.
So *no one* has brought up this yet?? http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=mike+trout+robbing+home+run&view=detail&mid=F5648E19A24F9A65B5AAF5648E19A24F9A65B5AA&FORM=VIRE
Drafting Mike Trout with the 25th pick of the draft after 21 teams took a pass 🙂
I think it has to be the nasty breaking pitch that buckles the hitter’s knees for a called strike three.
Great, fun article! I would say, though, that a “slam dunk” SO doesn’t have to be swinging. We all love the called third strike that leaves announcers exclaiming breathlessly, “That was absolutely FILTHY!”, when the batter just turns on his heels and heads back to the dugout without waiting for the umpire’s call, knowing he’s just been posterized and couldn’t do anything about it. Pedro Martinez enriched our lives in New England for years with strikeouts like that.
We all know that Baseball is the far superior sport, so it’s basketball blogs that should be weighing the questions of “what is basketball’s equivalent of the homerun/strikeout/outfield assist/homerun robbing grab over the fence/etc”
c’mon now.
I went very differently from both the writer and the commentariat.
Slam dunks are something that happen with some degree of frequency, but sometimes more impressively than others. For this reason, uncommon things like stealing home or ridiculous outfield assists or walk-off homers are out.
Additionally, they require proper conditions to execute-ie, a player not in appropriate defensive position to take a charge, and the opportunity to get to the basket before help defense arrives. Finally, they can be disproportionately momentum-swinging, since a dunk is worth the same number of points as any other basket, but is more exciting.
What I came up with is the double-play. They happen with a lot of frequency, but sometimes they’re super awesome. They’re just outs, which happen all the time, but they can represent a big momentum swing. And they require certain preconditions in order to occur.
Triples & inside the park home runs…not even a mention?
The only thing that would have made this post better is the inclusion of the Rick Ankiel highlights from that day in Colorado. https://youtu.be/0cSgDflCF98
You can’t see it until the last slow motion replay, but Ellsbury trips over himself a couple steps from home and basically falls into his slide, rather than diving in with authority. Still safe, amazing.
The Donaldson/Machada/Arenado dive down the line jump up and hose the guy at first has a similar dominance element.
When I saw that highlight of Jose Bautista, I felt a little disappointed it wasn’t Albert Pujols in the playoffs, which I thought was an even more dominating display of power.
Well done, sir.