Why Wasn’t Billy Hamilton a Base-Stealing Dynamo?
Shortly before people were making too much of the Mets signing Michael Cuddyer, people were making just enough of the Royals very nearly winning the actual World Series. It was an enjoyable race for a championship, and a part of the Royals’ game that got an incredible amount of attention was their habit of stealing bases. Against the A’s in the wild-card playoff, the Royals stole seven bags. Against the Angels in the ALDS, they stole another five. Then, against the Orioles, they stole just one. And against the Giants, they stole just one. The Royals’ base-stealing game was more or less shut down. In large part, presumably, because the opponents became prepared.
Along those lines, Billy Hamilton. Hamilton was supposed to be something different, something unique. Hamilton was going to make it with his legs, and Hamilton was going to challenge long-held records. It was a significant news item when Hamilton stole his first big-league bag. It was a significant news item when Hamilton was first thrown out. Coming into 2014, people wondered how extreme Hamilton would be. In the end, he stole a lot of bags. But he was also caught a lot of times, and he has a line like any other speedy slap hitter. Hamilton finished 25th in base-stealing runs — at +2.0 — behind guys like Danny Santana, Sam Fuld, and Kolten Wong. Why was Billy Hamilton not able to run like crazy?
To be clear, Hamilton did a lot. He finished tied for second in total steals, and he ranked among the best in non-steal baserunning runs. So Hamilton’s legs did damage, and perhaps never was it more clear than in the first month’s first half. To jog your memory:
Hamilton turned an infield pop-up into a sacrifice fly. He’s capable of things other people aren’t. That much is undeniable, but that’s also the reason why his base-stealing numbers come as a very mild disappointment. We weren’t expecting Hamilton to get thrown out so much. Not with such a human-looking success total.
The question is, why didn’t Billy Hamilton run like crazy? In reality, he did. He just wasn’t successful like crazy. Pulling data from Baseball-Reference, we can look at steal attempts and steal opportunities. We can then express that as a rate, steal% per opportunity. There were 276 players who had at least 100 steal opportunities. Matt Carpenter led the way, with 397. Here’s the top of the leaderboard, in Steal%:
- Billy Hamilton, 46%
- Jarrod Dyson, 37%
- Dee Gordon, 36%
- Rajai Davis, 30%
- Eric Young, 29%
Billy Hamilton didn’t just finish first — he finished first by a quarter of the guy who finished second. Almost half the time Billy Hamilton had a chance to run, he ran, and this is where we begin to theorize. Hamilton tried to run like crazy. So opponents would’ve expected him to try to run like crazy. As was somewhat demonstrated in the playoffs, when you expect an opponent to run, you can take steps to try to help yourself.
There exists some optimal steal rate. The better the runner, the higher the rate. The closer a runner gets to the rate, the more likely he is to be thrown out, because in theory, he’s selecting worse and worse running opportunities. What were Hamilton’s running opportunities? Clearly, again, he stole plenty, but consider this anecdotal evidence from his manager:
Bryan Price, the Reds manager, sees the difference every time Hamilton gets on. Suddenly advanced scouting reports become nullified.
“We have some stuff that we’ve never seen before,” Price said. “A pitcher who throws from his quicker delivery and calls it a slide step delivery with a runner on base. And it’s now quicker, like 1.25 (seconds) and then Billy gets out there and it’s 1.07. That really affects Billy’s ability to run because it’s an unbelievably competitive time to try to steal a base.”
Hamilton’s running has been hyped for years, and it stands to reason that hype might’ve worked against him. It would’ve been a specific factor to prepare for, probably more than when Hamilton was just a pinch-runner. Teams would’ve anticipated Hamilton’s running, and while it still all just comes down to math, it works to Hamilton’s disadvantage to not be surprising. Billy Butler stole a base against the Angels in the playoffs because, what? Teams would’ve always been on guard against Hamilton. That lowers his odds of success.
And then there’s the matter of Hamilton’s reads. Or, sometimes, his anxiety. Via Hal McCoy:
“This is a whole different level of play, where these guys can do certain things, like vary their times to the plate, be quicker to the plate and he is being challenged at a whole different level,” said Price.
Hamilton realizes it and knows he not only must get better at reading the pitchers but that he will get better.
[…]
“What they do up here is hold the ball longer and I get too anxious, sitting over there waiting for a long time. It’s a learning process. It’s something I’m learning as I go along.”
Hamilton, this season, was picked off a league-leading eight times. Now, one of those times, he managed to stay alive, but he was picked off and thrown out a league-leading seven times. Second place was down at four. The last time a runner was picked off and thrown out seven times was 1999, when it happened to the other Eric Young. The last time a runner was picked off and thrown out more than seven times was 1997, when it happened to Brian Hunter. This is evidence of Hamilton still learning. He’s still learning moves, and he’s still learning to control his own eagerness. He’s learning what the league will do to try to keep him where he is.
A couple example pick-offs:
A misread of the first move.
Another misread of the first move. I should re-emphasize that Hamilton’s running this past season was by absolutely no means bad. It just wasn’t as good as it could be. As a starting player, and not a pinch-runner, Hamilton has a lot on his plate, and opponents are more likely to come up with ways to try to keep him under control after he’s reached. Hamilton’s stealing game might be best considered fairly raw.
One thing that happens when you’re not getting great reads is that you get picked off. Another thing that happens is that you’re a little bit slower to get down to second base, as you try to protect against a throw-over. Without a great read, a runner will have a slower or a more indecisive first step, and steals are all about tenths of a second. Here’s a great J.J. Cooper article about Hamilton from 2012. Here’s another great one from Cooper from 2013. Within, you see Hamilton timed at about 3.0 – 3.1 seconds from first move to second base. At that kind of time, Hamilton’s almost impossible to throw out, unless everything’s perfect. This is what informed our 2014 expectations: if Hamilton can be that fast to second, won’t he pretty much always get to second?
The issue is that Hamilton can’t always be that fast to second. Let’s look at a few example caught steals. I selected these basically randomly; I did not look at all of his failures.
From the pitcher’s first move to the ball arriving at second, about 3.4 seconds elapsed.
From the pitcher’s first move to the ball arriving at second, about 3.3 seconds elapsed.
From the pitcher’s first move to the ball arriving at second, about 3.2 seconds elapsed. This turned out to be basically a pitch-out. The throw was also right on the money.
From the pitcher’s first move to the ball arriving at second, about 3.2 seconds elapsed. The immediate call was safe, but the play was overturned. Hamilton was out, barely. It was a bang-bang play — they’re usually bang-bang plays — but this is why the jump is so important. According to J.J. Cooper, a speedy runner gets to second base in a hair over 3.2 seconds. Hamilton, the freak, is supposed to be faster than that. If sometimes he gets his jumps such that he’s speedy, instead of genuinely unparalleled, he’ll be helpful, but he won’t be extraordinary. He’ll be worth a handful of runs, give or take a handful of runs.
One remembers that, in the minors, while Hamilton stole 395 bases, he was also thrown out 84 times. He knows he still has a lot to learn, especially against the best all-around pitchers in the world, and as much as Hamilton would probably love to just be concentrating on his running, he also needs to make sure he’s able to get on base in the first place, so it’s not like anything here is automatic. As a full-season rookie, Hamilton made a lot of things happen with his legs. The promise is there for him to develop into something amazing. It’s simply going to take a better eye for detail. He already has the part you can’t teach. It seems he might just be in need of a little more teaching.
Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.







The Reds should give Rickey Henderson a call.
For really!
There are several players with better success rates for their careers than Henderson. Some of them even have a history with the Reds (Eric Davis, Barry Larkin). Tim Raines probably has the best combination of a large number of stolen bases and high success rate, but the real question is could any of these guys actually teach what they know about base stealing.
Not to mention Joe Morgan, whose SB% is essentially equal to Henderson’s. Duh.
When I read the headline my first thought was “Billy Hamilton wasn’t a base stealing dynamo because Billy Hamilton wasn’t an on-base-getting dynamo,” but his awful .292 OBP isn’t even mentioned.
Did you read the article? It’s about rates, not totals. In this context OBP is about as relevant as his RBI total.
“Hamilton finished 25th in base-stealing runs — at +2.0 — behind guys like Danny Santana, Sam Fuld, and Kolten Wong.”
BsR is gonna be affected by how often you get on base. Everything Jeff says is correct and interesting, but if your question is “how did Kolten Wong produce more value on the basepaths than Billy Hamilton?” then OBP is part of the answer.
BsR isn’t the stat quoted. Hamilton beats all of those players in BsR.
Hamilton lags in wSB. Which is ONLY based on stolen base attempts (aka moments when he’s already on base).
You could maybe make a case that higher OBP equals more chances to steal. Except the guys mentioned don’t prove that point:
Wong had the same OBP.
Fuld reached base 50 fewer times than Hamilton as a result of 200 fewer PAs.
Sanatana 25 fewer times on base.
Sorry, OBP is just not very relevant here.
Actually, his OBP doesn’t make too much difference. Suppose his OBP were increased by a whopping 30%, to a stellar 0.388. Keep everything else the same proportionally, so he gets on base 30% more times, attempts to steal 30% more, and is CS 30% more. The value wSB = (0.2 x SB) – (0.377 x CS) – a factor that is a fixed proportion of times reached first base. Since everything increases proportionally, so would his wSB, from 2.0 to 2.6. That is a significant improvement, but it would still leave him well behind the leaders in this category; he moves from 25th to 18th.
Jeff’s point is that his high CS% holds down his runs created by stealing bases. For example, Mike Trout stole only 16 bases, but because he was caught only twice, his wSB was 1.8, only slightly behind Hamilton. Jose Altuve stole the same number of bases as Hamilton, but was caught less than half as often. His wSB was 7.0, more than three times Hamilton’s.
A higher OBP might help more if as a result Hamilton attempted to steal less often, and perhaps was caught proportionally less often as a consequence of batteries being less certain if he were going to go. But because of the large % of times he attempted to steal in 2014, his low OBP did not hurt his wSB total that much compared to players with higher OBP.
Another way of looking at this is to note that he would only have to steal successfully one more time with the same OBP to get the same wSB. I.e., instead of 56/23, 57/22. Now that is obviously in the range of chance, but the point is, there is the possibility of making huge gains in runs created simply by being caught less often, whereas at his present rate of CS, even if were among the league leaders in OBP, his upside would be severely limited.
“but if your question is “how did Kolten Wong produce more value on the basepaths than Billy Hamilton?” then OBP is part of the answer.”
I don’t understand how you think this. As a general concern, sure, but you are quite specific in naming two players.
Hamilton: .292 OBP in 611 PA
Wong: .292 OBP in 433 PA
The article was about why Billy Hamilton didn’t steal more bases. It was a great article with great points, but OBP is a relevant variable, because it dictates how often he can attempt to steal second. The article actually went much deeper in it’s analysis than OBP, but it is still unquestionably relevant to the topic.
3 points:
1. Is a baserunner credited with a “pick off” even if he “stays alive,” by escaping the pickle? So, if a catcher makes a great throw to 2b and the runner really should be thrown out, but the infielder drops the ball, is that also considered an error on the infielder, but a caught stealing?
2. You write that Hamilton stole 395 bases in the minors, but was caught 84 times, so he “knows he has a lot to learn.” I guess, but that is an 82% success rate. I would imagine him feeling pretty good about himself.
3. We often say that hitters and pitchers can be “lucky” or “unlucky” in a season. Can we also not say the same thing about baserunners? As in, in one year, the catchers just happened to make “right on the money” throws against you? All of those caught stealing GIFs were bang-bang plays.
They’re pretty much always bang-bang plays. The point is that they were bang-bang plays in more time than Hamilton’s peak estimates. Hamilton at 3.2 seconds+ is different from Hamilton at 3.0 – 3.1 seconds. Hamilton at 3.2 seconds+ has base-stealing peers.
I don’t think they’re always “banb-bang” plays. If those caught stealings were selected randomly, than maybe Hamilton was unlucky this season.
An “unlucky” hitter is a guy who crushes line drives precisely to where a defensive player is standing. You can’t say “the ball pretty much always does that.” Because it doesn’t.
Sometimes I make a high percentage of my pool shots, other days I don’t. Maybe this year Hamilton just got gunned down a lot, and next year he’ll have better luck. Just cuz.
Okay, sure, you’re right, who knows? Maybe throws were more accurate with him, on average. But if he runs times of 3.2 or 3.3 or 3.4, he just won’t be as good as we thought he would be at 3.0 – 3.1. The math is easier to achieve if he gets worse jumps. Even at slower times, he’s still fast and he’ll never get thrown out by a mile, but he’s more reasonably throw-out-able. The whole idea behind Billy Hamilton is that he shouldn’t be reasonably throw-out-able, barring a pitch-out.
I would guess that there are varying levels of average success rate in the different levels of the minor leagues. It may be that an 82% rate in the minors is not that special when given league context. How many pitches have refined pick off moves? How many catchers can make the throw?
MLBers were at 73% last year
AAA 69%
AA 68%
A+ 69%
A 69%
A- 69%
Rk 71%
Summer 66%
While pitchers/catchers are still refining, so are the base runners… seems to roughly cancel out.
What is the obsession with a player who possesses speed and only speed? I have never seen such coverage for a guy with a .291 wOBA.
Imagine 20 years ago this much ink was spilled over Brian L. Hunter?
We get it, he is fast. Is it time to move on yet?
I love when commentors get all worked up about people wasting their time on stuff like this.
I mean, let’s get back to the real important stuff: sports coverage!
It’s all frivolity and entertainment. Some people find Hamilton’s speed and the prospect of 100 SBs in a season entertaining. You don’t. (Besides this, the article actually looks at some different strategies teams and players have been employing that will surely be used in non-Hamilton contexts, too.)
I’m not one to typically say this, because in general it’s a cop out response. But in this case I think it applies: if you don’t want to read about Billy Hamilton, maybe…I dunno, don’t read about Billy Hamilton.
I read every fangraphs article. FWIW
Well. No shit.
well KDL the sheep spoke, you won
Brian Hunter was actually the No. 5 prospect in baseball, according to Baseball America, entering 1995. He would’ve been worth a lot of coverage.
I get it, he is GIF friendly. But Hunter’s coverage would’ve summarily stopped after he posted a .290 wOBA.
These times are much different than when Hunter played. .290 is much, much closer to league average than it was back then.
Then you should know this is what fangraph is all about
Do we need really need more trout articles? Him and his elite peers are great but sometimes it’s interesting to look at other players with unique skill sets.
Can’t have too many Trout articles. IMO, of course.
3.5 WAR based essentially solely on his one tool.
You’re going to see more ink spilled.
THIS ^^^
Not a lot of guys post a wRC+ of 79 and manage to scratch out 3.5 WAR.
maybe Passan was right…
This is a small ball era where baserunning is a lot more pertinent than the HRs were when Brian Hunter was playing. I personally think it’s also cool that we now have the tools to say Billy Hamilton is great, but we don’t have the tools to say if he’ll actually be able to produce; I guess I feel like it’s more exciting than Bryce Harper just being the well above average player he’s supposed to be.
I’m fairly sure the second GIF is a balk (obviously not called). Look how forward his foot lands from where he starts.
ya, it is really close. it almost looks like he takes a “round” step too, so his first move is more towards the plate, then gradually curves it towards first.
The first pickoff is pretty close to a balk too. looks like his front leg moves first
The “other Eric Young” = Eric Young Sr.?
Yeah.
Some guys just have it from the get go (see Tim Raines), Most others need some time. Lou Brock in 64, 43sbs, 18CS. Ricky Henderson was caught a lot in his early days, even the year he swiped 130. Almost all improved their percentage over time, so I think Hamilton can push 78-80% success rate which is pretty good if you are running 80-120 times. They key is his bat, which somebody else mentioned. If that doesn’t improve, well, you are looking at vince coleman with better defense. Useful, entertaining, but certainly not even all star material and a short shelf life to boot as the speed wanes.
So…is Billy Hamilton Dexter Fowler with more speed and slightly more instinct? I’m not sure getting the jump is teachable, it has to exist within the runner, meaning it is an instinct of deep reading and complexity, that Hamilton (so far) doesnt have, but his pure speed makes up for the lack of instinct
Huh?
I think he means Dexter Fowler is a guy who is ostensibly “fast”, but has sub-par basestealing instincts… and Hamilton is simply a faster version, with slightly better instincts.
To which I would say, possibly… but Hamilton is a whole ‘nother level faster, and quicker… and I think has a lot more potential (and desire) to hone his basestealing.
But Fowler has that whole .360+ OBP thing going for him… and he’s a fundamentally different player… so I understand Jim Price’s confusion. The comparison threw me at first also.
Lol, you lost me at “it has to exist within the runner”. So does my liver, but not sure if that applies.
Billy is fun to watch, you can’t deny that. I’m waiting for a gapper turned into an inside the park homer, that would be fun to watch.
I would imagine the learning curve has something to do with this. I would be interested to see if there was a breakdown of his SB% by month.
On a side note, Some off the secondary info in this article begs the question of just how much more value the Cardinals may gain from having Wong in the leadoff spot over Carpenter. There obviously is a huge difference in OBP between the two players, but assuming Wong can improve in his second season to a BB% closer to his minor league numbers how many more runs could St Louis score with Carpenter hitting in the 2nd spot in the lineup.
Or what about a healthy Bourjos batting lead-off (if not for the K’s).
Thanks Jeff!
That’s a definite balk by the lefty up there…he’s not striding to 1b, he’s going diagonal towards a spot between 1b and home. Umps should really crack down on lefties and their moves. It’s not easy, but it’s not a level playing field with them.
Quiet you.
He’s like a less good Tony Campana but with more praise.
What are you basing your “less good” argument upon? Cut. It. Out. Come on.
Think he means not as good at stealing bases. Tony had a real good swipe rate for the cubs. But billy is faster and is getting better so the answer is no.
Would it also be fair to say that the rest of the Reds didn’t help? If there are an inordinate number of pitch outs, the hitter behind Hamilton would want to increase their take rate. If the pitch-outs seem to also be strikes, have the hitter swing and turn an easier pitch into an RBI single. It seems like the Reds should take advantage of teams gearing up against Hamilton, not be victims of it. Perhaps there is no pattern to victimize.