Why Wasn’t Kole Calhoun a Prospect?
In the grand scheme of things, evaluating a baseball player’s current ability isn’t that difficult. If you have a sampling of their statistics and have a chance to watch a handful of their games, a reasonably informed observer will come up with a pretty good estimate of the player’s current talent level. Figuring out how good a player is right now requires some skill, but it’s nothing compared to having that same information about a player and attempting to forecast six years into the future.
That’s the job of a scout. You get a handful of looks at a 19 year old, you talk to a few people, you glance at some numbers, and then you’re asked to predict what that player is going to look like at 25. It’s a big ask and as a result, there’s a pretty big margin of error. A good scout should be more accurate than a decently competent observer, but no one would expect a scout to be right on every player. There’s just too much uncertainty involved.
One would hope that a scout doesn’t miss any Mike Trouts or bet high on many Jeff Larishs, but they’re going to miss good players and speak highly of bad one’s during the course of their careers. That’s especially true with respect to very young players.
The further a player is from the majors, the less certainty you should have in their future. A scouting report on an 18 year old with a half season of rookie ball comes with less certainty than one for a 23 year old on the cusp of the show with 2,000 minor league plate appearances to his name.
It’s one thing to fail to notice the potential in the 18 year old, but if he tears up every level over the next three seasons and you still haven’t caught on, there may be a flaw in your method. No one would fault you for missing him in high school, but if tremendous play in the minors doesn’t lead you to update your long term projection, you should probably recalibrate.
And the thing of it is, the vast majority of scouts and scouting writers do this very well. Some are obviously better at it than others, but the big name writers catch on, even when they don’t catch on right away. It’s part of their job and it’s what makes them good at it. You can’t survive only on your scouting chops, you have to make sure you’re constantly checking in on all of your evaluations to make sure they still hold water.
Yet there are still players who don’t get noticed and there’s one in particular that’s caught my eye. Why didn’t anyone notice Kole Calhoun?
Let’s start by painting two very clear pictures. Calhoun has had a great major league career to date and his minor league numbers were also quite good. He has 4.7 WAR in 784 career PA, built on a 122 wRC+ and not on any type of outrageous defensive numbers. That’s not a huge sample size, but he’s been consistently productive in the majors since coming up for good in the middle of 2013.
In the minors, he had a 156 wRC+ in rookie ball, a 143 wRC+ in High A, and a 147 wRC+ in Triple A. Calhoun didn’t just show up in the majors and start performing, he tore up the minors for three plus years and then showed up in the majors hitting 20% better than average. If you only knew about Calhoun’s statistics, you’d probably figure he spent some time in the top half of most Top 100 lists.
Instead, Calhoun was drafted 264th overall in 2010 and didn’t get an ounce of prospect attention anywhere but on Angels specific top ten lists, and only because the Angels’ farm system was such a wasteland during the early 2010s. No one had Calhoun on their radar.
Chris St. John creates a yearly consensus prospect ranking in which he averages out major rankings to offer the top 150 or 200 prospects in the game. Kole Calhoun was never listed. He never made the Baseball Prospectus list. He didn’t show up on FanGraphs’ list. Or Keith Law’s. Or Baseball America’s. When you look specifically at Angels’ list from that era, he’s usually about seventh. Calhoun wasn’t just underrated, he wasn’t rated at all.
No one thought Kole Calhoun was a prospect and no one thought he’d be an above average regular. The writers who do mention Calhoun at all talk about his lack of tools and ceiling and discuss him as a guy who might wind up as a serviceable fourth outfielder.
Marc Hulet, at FanGraphs before the 2013 season, had Calhoun 12th among Angels’ prospects:
A stint in the California League in 2011 did wonders for Calhoun’s prospect status but it may have also caused some people to over-estimate his ceiling. The left-handed hitter has the potential to be a very useful big league outfielder but he’s more of an above-average back-up than a starter on a first-division club.
Calhoun hustles his butt off and has hit everywhere that he’s played — outside of a brief 21-game sampling with the big league club in 2012. He does a little bit of everything but none of his tools stand out. He has a little pop, he can steal a few bases and he goes all out in the outfield while backing up all three positions. Solid depth in the outfield at the big league level means that Calhoun should open the year in triple-A but he could be the first outfielder recalled in the event of an injury.
Keith Law had him 7th on the team he believed had the worst farm system in baseball, stopping only to say Calhoun would make a great bench guy and extra outfielder. John Sickels also placed Calhoun 7th and said the same:
Former Arizona State star lacks big tools but has good instincts and polish, hit .298/.369/.507 in Triple-A. Decent on-base skills with occasional pop and underrated glovework, would be an ideal fourth outfielder.
A few Angels specific sites with smaller reaches were a bit rosier. The Angels Win Blog liked him as the team’s second best prospect by mid-2013, and Garrett Wilson of Monkey with a Halo ranked him fifth, pointing out that when he saw Calhoun play, scouts from other teams took notice. Wilson thought Calhoun’s game was complete enough to peg him for something more than a fourth outfielder, but that’s as high as anyone was on former Sun Devil.
Calhoun hit at every level and yet he didn’t even rise to the top of the Angels’ farm system, much less arriving on anyone’s Top 100. How can something like this happen? Why did so many smart people fail to recognize a player who hadn’t failed anywhere?
And if you’re rushing to the punch line, ZiPS wasn’t exactly on Calhoun either. Before 2013, the system pegged him for a .292 wOBA and 0.8 WAR. After his solid showing that year, ZiPS gave him a .319 wOBA and 2.1 WAR for 2014. That’s a nice bump, but it was still being very conservative.
After 2014, the projections are starting to come around. Steamer and ZiPS peg him for 118-122 wRC+ and about 3.0 WAR. The Fans are more bullish on his offense, as they tend to be, and like him for 132 wRC+ and 4.3 WAR.
Finally, the projections and the fans have decided that Calhoun is a good player but you also have to wonder, what took so long?
In the minors, Calhoun hit for power, he got on base, and he didn’t strike out a huge amount. He stole bases (he did get caught a lot in 2011, though). There’s some disagreement about the quality of his defense, but the debate ranges from a little below average to a little above. He got the chance to play in Salt Lake City and the PCL a decent amount, but he hit almost 50% better than the league while in AAA. There’s some penalty worth applying for the run environment, but not one that makes him into a non-prospect.
And if you watch the major league version of Calhoun, there’s nothing about his swing that troubles you, so we can probably infer that there wasn’t some obvious flaw during his minor league career. If you look at the facts of the case, there’s no good explanation for why Calhoun, specifically, didn’t get attention coming up.
Which means we’re dealing with a more systemic issue. I have three theories for how this happened, none of which are empirically verifiable by outsiders, but all of which speak to something about the nature of forecasting the future.
First, it’s always possible that this was just one of those random things that happens when you deal with lots of data points. There are thousands of players in professional baseball at one time and players cycle into the system every year. From a statistical perspective, everyone is bound to make random errors and sometimes those errors will overlap. If we reran history again, maybe Calhoun ranks 40th on a bunch of lists and we all forget this ever happened.
Second, I think it’s possible that there’s a clustering effect at play. A lot of prospect analysis, given the number of players to consider, is based on following up on the work of other people. If one or two trustworthy sources saw Calhoun look rough early in his professional career, it’s not crazy to think a certain opinion would start to take hold.
I’m not arguing that scouts were clustering to the opinion of a single scout and it clouded their own analysis, I’m saying it’s possible they got a negative report on him and simply never heard anyone else offer a good enough one to force them to go scout him themselves. Maybe a small contingent of scouts was coloring the waters in a disproportionate way.
But it’s the third theory that I think is the most interesting option. I don’t know if it’s the most likely, but what if the team scouts did this on purpose?
While the prospect writers file their own reports, a lot of what they do is informed by conversations with industry sources. To get a full picture on a guy like Calhoun, they would have talked to their sources within the Angels organization and with rival teams that scouted the Angels’ players.
Is it possible that these sources were overly negative on Calhoun with the intent to keep his ability under wraps? It sounds a little farfetched at first, but a rival team that likes Calhoun had no reason to spread around a glowing scouting report and turn the rest of the industry on to him, and the Angels scouts might have chosen not to trumpet his ability to keep him from winding up on the trading block due to the outfield logjam that existed there. This would have required some alignment of the stars, but nothing that rises to the level of conspiracy. When a player lacks eye-popping tools, there’s some room for deception.
On one hand, we have a player who hit his way through every level and succeeded at the major league level as soon as he was given a chance. On the other, we have a group of very smart people who were essentially blindsided by it. None of the industry leaders gave a thought to Calhoun as an above average regular and only one Angels blogger even hinted at a league average future.
Calhoun is good and has always been good, yet no one noticed. Those are two very different realities. Figuring out exactly what happened is impossible, but it could be as simple as a collective error or a flaw in the way scouts study players who lack loud tools. Or it could be as complicated as an effort to intentionally limit his notoriety. It’s a dumbfounding reality, which means the answer isn’t readily apparent. No matter the cause of the confusion, Calhoun should have been a prospect and aspiring scouts should be looking for more eighth rounders like him.
Neil Weinberg is the Site Educator at FanGraphs and can be found writing enthusiastically about the Detroit Tigers at New English D. Follow and interact with him on Twitter @NeilWeinberg44.
Preston Tucker-fits the same exact mold I think w/out speed, right?
Simple answer to this post.
Calhoun was not a Red Sox farm player.
All Red Sox players get a 100% boost in the rankings.
Just look at Garin Cecchini, clearly not as good as Cody Asche but he’s a Top 100 prospect.
Tucker’s an Astro right?
Phillies113 is real. Not the clown in the first reply.
Totally stole my reply, Alex
Very similar. I’ve been driving the Tucker bandwagon, but the extreme pop-up rate is a concern.
He was 22 in rookie ball, 23 in High-A, and 24 in his first go-round at AAA, where he was good but not outstanding.
This. It’s also the only explanation that takes into account the mediocre ZiPS projections. ZiPS doesn’t know or care about his tools or his scouting reports or his defensive ability.
But ZiPS does know that, historically, in order for a prospect to project as a good MLB hitter, he needs to put up some eye-popping numbers in the hitter-friendly PCL at the ripe old age of 24. Lots of 24 year old corner outfielders can put up a .380 wOBA in the PCL.
And before that, he had half a season in rookie ball (age 22), and a season in high-A (age 23). Consider his age/level, he just didn’t hit well enough to stand out.
ZiPS knows about age-relative-to-league. So do scouts.
Yes! I also feel that the focus on age at level hides some truly talented not-young-for-the-level players. Those players might need true scouting more than the young players do, whose numbers can say more about them.
And the age-relative-to-league caveat especially applies to hitters drafted out of college. By definition, they’ll be around league-average age for their level the first year or two in the minors, since they won’t be rushed while adjusting to wooden bats.
The fact that the Angels jumped him right to AAA from high-A ball is an indicator that they thought fairly highly about his potential.
Was coming to say this. Age relative to the league is seen as a huge governor on prospect ratings. If you aren’t young for the league or absolutely destroying it, you won’t be seen as a top prospect. Simply being an age-appropriate above average performer might get you in the top 10, but not in a team’s top 5. I also wonder if scouts haven’t quite adjusted to the drop in offense at the major league level. An 800 OPS corner OF used to be a 4th OF, now it’s a borderline All-Star.
As someone who has followed the Angels system very closely, and agreed with the expectations put upon Calhoun, this was always my main knock against him. He was always old for his league, but there are other factors that played in.
– Kole does everything well, but nothing particularly good. A corner OFer with not enough power to be a power hitter, not enough speed to be a base stealer, a decent but not stellar walk rate, and not enough contact to expect high averages.
– As a prospect he was following the era of failed position prospects for the Angels. McPherson, Kotchman, Mathis, many even consider Kendrick a disappointment, all put up significantly better numbers at younger ages. I think this has been held against a lot of Angel prospects the last decade or so.
– Watching him play today, somethings are apparent that weren’t at the time. He is built like a tank, in a way he wasn’t while a prospect. That combined with his insane level of hustle in the field speaks to an inner drive to succeed that is far beyond the vast majority of players. He has definitely put in the work to make the most out of what talents he has.
– His time as a prospect coincided with a decline in offense across the league. His numbers translate much better when you take into account league trends than when you just eyeball the raw numbers. This plays into my second point, when it comes to comparing Calhoun to failed Angels prospects.
Interesting theory. I wonder if players without at least one obvious plus tool tend to get underrated relative to more toolsy prospects. Being a little above average at everything makes you a hell of a player, but probably isn’t as exciting.
This to me seems the most obvious answer. If someone’s got an 80 Speed Tool or an 80 power tool, they’re impossible to ignore even if they have a ton of flaws in their game. And to be fair, if someone’s got that top-level tool a scout (or minor-league coach) could say “If we can just fix *this* issue, then we’ve got a superstar” whereas Calhoun never had a glaring flaw to fix.
Calhoun is a little undersized and was a little old for each level he was at, so the problems seem to be that he was above-average at everything but nothing a scout (or organization) could turn around and rave about
Seems like a lot of these guys are considered “quad a” players, and receive little attention, but some players keep hitting past triple-a like Calhoun.
Quad-A players have usually seen some action in the big leagues and failed. If you keep hitting past Triple-A, you are by definition a big leaguer.
I’ve been very impressed with the games I have watched him play. Throughout the year last year, I was more intimidated when he was at bat than any other player on the team except Trout when I watched the Angels play the Rangers.
At its core, this looks like a scouting issue to me. Scouts setup the framework for how players are perceived. They don’t ignore stats, but they are paid to work in very small samples and report what they see. When a player comes with unremarkable reports, that’s the foundation for what follows. It would be a little odd if Angels scouts were telling teams negative things about a player, but it would not be surprising if they were mute on Calhoun. I think you’re asking a great question.
Here’s the thing, though – if the Angels were really high on Calhoun, why would they send him to rookie ball after being drafted and then leave him in high A ball for a full season after that? Wouldn’t it have made more sense to promote him to AA? It just seems like they still weren’t convinced about what they had?
So you start with an 8th round draft pick who was a college senior – not exactly a guy who’s expected to set the world on fire.
From a stats angle, his first full season was as a 23 year old hitting in the hitter friendly Cal league, so I’m sure some people waved off his stats. The stats were great but:
1. He was a 23 year old college graduate so he would be expected to be more advanced than most hitters in that league
2. He didn’t even have the best OPS in the league that season and finished behind Altuve and Gyorko who were younger than him (although Gyorko by just a year)
Then he played in the PCL which is also a league where people wave off stats due to the park factors.
I’m not saying all of these things were right but I see very solid justification for not trusting 2 years of minor league success on a guy who scouts didn’t love in the first place and for whom projections weren’t crazy about.
Some pretty hokey theories here. I’ll sum it up in exactly 2 words – age bias. This is one of the (if not “the”) biggest factors of why we continue to regularly see players get dismissed by the prospect media.
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I don’t understand why then Angels would want him to be under rated. Would this reduce his trade value? I think the Yankees and Red Sox tactic of grossly over hyping their prospects is far more effective.
If the Angels knew or thought that they had a young 4 WAR OF to put next to Trout, why would they want teams to try and pry him away from them?
Why wouldn’t they? A team should always want other teams to try and pry their prospects away from them. Even if you’re not planning trading someone, it doesn’t hurt to get offers.
Great stuff, Neil. To me it seems to check a few different boxes where scouts typically write a guy off. He probably looked like a negative defender in CF so he’s relegated to a corner where maybe he’s a bit above average, but not a monster. That means that the bat really needs to play, but he was more of a jack of all trades guy that could hit for average, get on some, and hit for power, but none of those things were blowing up the league. Speaking of, he played in offensive-friendly leagues which some folks just automatically discount without actually doing any sort of statistically-based regression or discounting. Lastly, as noted above, he wasn’t ancient for his league, but he wasn’t young either.
I think scouts consistently miss out on guys that are average or a little better across the board, particularly when those guys don’t play a premium position. Add in that many seem to establish who they’re going to follow early in that player’s career so that a guy that evolves from something less desirable may never get back on to a list while a guy that has plateaued may stay on a turn or two longer. You can chalk this up to stubbornness or ego or whatever. Your preface became tiresome, but it was necessary to go to that length because people consistently need to be reminded about how often these folks are wrong just due to the nature of the beast.
I enjoy watching Calhoun and I don’t think he’s alone as a guy that was missed because scouts are more concerned with uncovering guys that can hit at premium defensive positions more so than guys that can hit at less premium positions. This is a great article because it reminds us that players come in all shapes and when you try to push a square through a circular slot it’s not going to work. That doesn’t mean the square isn’t important. It’s great that so many opinions are out there so that you can Google just about any player and at least find a blurb, but that tree gets rather incestuous when it’s a small handful of opinions that form the source document which is then disseminated to the masses including opportunistic teams with their own agendas to push. As always, think creatively, have an open mind, and for God sakes go watch the guy play a few games before forming an opinion.
It’s ‘projectability.’
Calhoun always did well but he never flashed any significant upside while having all of the downside of a typical prospect.
Prospect evaluation is half potential upside, and half risk assessment. Kole was high risk, low reward, but he kept on delivering.
Most big time prospects reports seem to say something like, “big time power potential if he can just learn to cut down on the strikeouts and take a few walks,” or “electric stuff if he can learn to locate his pitches.” You don’t really ever read, “a bit above average at everything. If his offensive performance turns out not to be a mirage created by his offense friendly hitting environments, or his advanced age for his league, then he may turn into an above average major leaguer.”
Seems like all the under-rated player profiles feature the ‘baseball rat’ stereotype. No standout skills, but works his butt off to make himself better.
Meanwhile, scouts still drool over the guys who can hit the ball 500 ft, but strike out 35% of the time, and almost never pan out in the end.
This.
See McLouth, Nate; Harrison, Josh, Zobrist, Ben; and on and on. There is no “tool” for being a good baseball player. I don’t mean this as a giant insult to the scouting world at all. They do this stuff exceptionally well, but it must be very hard to separate the average tool types into minor league depth and actual prospects.
Robert Refsnyder
Jose Pirela
Rangel Ravelo
Carlos Asuaje
Joey Wendle
Devon Travis (he is getting some love this year)
Dwight Smith, Jr.
Greg Bird
Eric Jagielo
All of these guys look pretty useful, but they are not “sexy”.
Theory 2 seems vastly more plausible than Theory 3. It’s entirely believable that scouts are in general biased toward consensus — or even just experience the same confirmation bias the rest of us do, once they’re exposed to earlier judgments and rumor/buzz about a player. Combine that with the other biases the comments have already discussed — age bias, “carrying tool” bias (vs. all-round players), and scouts’ well-known blind spot for “AAAA” hitters — and you have a pretty reasonable-seeming explanation for Calhoun’s getting overlooked.
It’s not nearly as plausible as that to suggest that an entire team’s scouting and development staff deliberately skunked a player for years, with no clear motive, and without even a hint of that ever being leaked to the media. Without evidence, this is conspiracy thinking.
You could also write this article about ll the players who fit this description who didn’t make it. Aaron Cunningham for example. He didn’t get much love either, although he did get a 55 in BA. But he tore it up his first run through the minors.
if you want to go back in time three years, you can write this same article about paul goldschmidt
Exactly what I was thinking.
He never made anyone’s AZ Top 10 prospects list.
The Top 100+ list referenced in the article has DBacks prospects (sic) Marc Krauss and Bobby Borchering listed in 2011.
Keith Law pegged his ceiling as Steve Balboni.
Goldschmidt has plus raw power and a pretty good idea of the strike zone, which should combine to give him a pretty healthy MLB career as at least a solid backup. Whether he’s more than that depends on whether his fringy bat speed will play enough to let him get to that power — and with a fair number of soft-tossers kicking around the National League, he might be able to make it work. He’s a below-average defender at first who might have to DH, and could end up as more of a right-handed platoon/bench bat who starts against lefties.
— Keith Law, July 19, 2011
Goldschmidt is different in the fact that most 1B never end up very highly on prospect lists. The pressure on the bat is just too big for most to overcome.
Holy Shit they’ve cloned Mike Trout!?!
Now that’s game changing organic growth right in my wheelhouse with learnings!
Actually, I figured it out:
5’10”, 200 lbs.
So he’s not lean enough to look like a center fielder but he’s also not tall or athletic looking enough to look like a big corner outfield bat.
Looks bad in jeans, too.
I bet he doesn’t have “the good face”
His girlfriend is ugly. No confidence.
Kyle Seager
The Angels appear to have a little habit of doing this. Perhaps the arrival last year of Matt Shoemaker fits the mould of Calhoun too. A guy always a little bit older, no amazing stand out tools but becomes very good major league. Only difference is he didn’t tear up the minors to the same extent.
Cardinals have been like this for years as well. Carpenter, Craig, MAtt Adams…just to name a few recent examples
I think this is really simple. As others have already said, he was always on the wrong side of the age spectrum for each level – not “old” but not young either. Also as others have said, he lacked any special tool to hang a projection on, and “pretty good at lots of things” is a skill that is consistently underrated in baseball and in sports generally.
So he’s the type of player that is traditionally underrated by scouts, and was always on the old side for each level. The former is to be expected, and the latter implies that Calhoun is a bit of an outlier. What more needs to be said?
I think one big missing part is that scouts may not have yet readjusted their perspective to the decreasing league offense. Let’s face it, a .272/.325/.450 slash line with average corner OF defense even 5 years ago WAS a backup or 4th outfielder. Calhoun was 38th in wRC+ among qualified hitters last year. In 2009, Torii Hunter’s .299/.366/.508 was 38th. Calhoun’s slash line that year would be close to Cody Ross’s .270/.321/.469, which was barely above average.
Obviously, we would expect that Calhoun in a 2009 environment would have a better output (or would we?). But if scouts in 2010/11 were saying that he looked like a .270/.330/.450 type guy, that wasn’t that valuable back then. It’s only become valuable because offense has bottomed out.
I’m still getting used to the idea that someone with an OPS below .800 can be really valuable. Hell, in 2009, there were 81 qualified hitters with an OPS over .800. In 2014, it was 35. To me, that’s a pretty stark change in 5 years. I expect the scouts will catch up (or already have).
Yeah, I have trouble making this adjustment as well.
But people should be able to see that his production was much above league levels in the minors and thus he’d be above average in the majors, no matter what the benchmark is now.
this just shows that the national guys don’t actually watch these guys play.
Calhoun, Dickerson, Matt Carpenter. Happens with the non-elite tools, slightly older guys. But John Sickels did give Dickerson and Carpenter B- grades, and Calhoun borderline B-. And they came up mid-season after doing as well or better in their last prospect year.
I went up to Eno at a Beergraphs meet-up at Gingerman in NYC and said he had undersold Calhoun on rotographs before last year. Only it came out “Youshen unnershelf cloon.”
Hey guys, I just wanted to chime in on this one. It was I who wrote the scouting report for Calhoun at monkeywithahalo and Garrett’s the main man there too and deserves just as much credit.
Other teams (and the Angels) were fully aware of who Kole was/is. When Jerry Dipoto’s regime came to power for the Angels, they did quite a bit of house-cleaning in terms of prospects. We saw guys they weren’t as high on (Segura, Pena, Hellweg, Amarista) all shipped out for something of value. Kole however, was a holdover from the previous regime and I believe that’s largely because they felt it was evident he would be a useful piece at the major league level.
As far as why he never appeared in any nationally recognized top prospect lists, he simply didn’t fit the mold. He wasn’t a first round pick and he wasn’t a multi-million dollar signing from Latin America. I’ve talked to Kole about this subject a couple of times and both times he made it evident that he could care less how he’s evaluated. Much like Trout himself, Kole just loves playing the game and leaves the talking up to others.
To me, it seems clear that those who do the ranking are unaffiliated with major league organizations and thus do not have the inside and in-depth scoop they’d allow you to believe. Scouts for the Angels or any other organization aren’t going to share their information with the likes if Keith Law or anyone else. So while it’s accurate to say the general public was unaware, MLB was well aware, and given the amount of times I scouted him personally, I’d like to think I was as well.
*COULDN’T* care less.
If you “could care less,” that means you care at least an insignificant amount.
*Grammar
Scouts share information with prospect evaluators all the time.
But who’s to say they aren’t putting a little bit of spin in their comments on behalf of their organization. So you might, for example, spend a little extra time talking up Jean Segura if you’ve heard that he’s part of a proposed package for Greinke.
Neil –
Any thought as to whether the bottom of the barrel ranking for the Angels system as a whole in the early 2010s could’ve bogged down Calhoun’s prospect ranking?
2 thoughts there: one is simply exposure. Piggybacking on your second point a bit, could the perceived lacked of talent in the Angels’ system have led to less attention from the scouting community, making it less likely that a scout would follow up on initial negative scouting reports for Calhoun or to stumble across him while scouting another stud prospect in the Angels’ system?
Second, certain organizations like the Cardinals are perceived to better at prospect development, at finding diamonds from the rough of the lower draft rounds. I’m wondering if general negative perception of Angels’ minor league system and player development at the time made the scouting community more likely to overlook Angels’ prospects selected deeper in the draft?
My theory is that it’s hard to project (or see with your eyes) the value of guys who are 5-tool players, except every tool is 50/55. When you look at any particular skill, there’s nothing that screams top prospect, but when you’re a little bit above average at many things, the value really adds up. Scouts want to point to a specific skill that will carry a player to the show, and it’s a bit lame to say that a player’s ticket is “no obvious weaknesses.” The “no obvious weaknesses” line is what gets a Correa or Buxton into the top 5 when the talent is obvious, but its harder for “no obvious weakness” to get someone into the top 100 when it’s combined with “no obvious carrying skill”,
Even at the ML level, think of a guy like Ian Kinsler- if you didn’t have a all-in stat like WAR, how many people would really think he’s a top-5 second baseman?
Great point about Kinsler as an example. Average offense+great baserunning+good/great defense at 2b = huge value.
But none of that really stands out in the stats or even when watching him play, so could be easy to overlook.
Plus, I have to wonder if maybe there are a lot of guys in the minors who are average at a lot of things (and therefore pretty valuable). Maybe they don’t all get a chance like Calhoun did?
More insight in the comments than in the article – guys being undervalued due to age relative to league, size & lack of a dominant tool are all things that get discussed a lot on this site, e.g. Mookie Betts or Matt Carpenter.
Maybe a better question to ask is, how many guys are there in the minors with a similar profile?
Slightly older than the league; hits well, but not to the point of destroying the competition; decent defender and base-runner. The comments here have named a bunch of MLB players who fit the mold a few years ago.
If there are’t many, then there’s a profile to look for when searching through the minors for potential help. But if it were that easy, I think it would have been done by now. More likely, the minors are littered with guys like this. Calhoun may just be an example of a guy who beat the odds, rather than a case of people failing to take notice.
That is the problem AC, there are a ton of guys in every system that hit well, are average/old for their level, don’t have standout tools, and never get past AAA.
Because Kole Calhoun is Cody Ross (they are even the same size). 10 years, that wasn’t much to get excited about. Today. it’s a borderline top 30 OF.
If those guys were 6’2″, they would have 30 HR potential. But they aren’t, so they get overlooked.
I think scouts consistently miss on players with a floor that is close to their ceiling. Prospects who *might* hit .300//400/.600 at a premium position get projected higher than players who *probably* will hit .270/.350/.450 at a non-premium position. The whole comparison Jeff Sullivan did with Javier Baez and Mookie Betts is instructive in this regard. Baez could set records if he taps into his power potential, and thus is seen as a better prospect than Betts, who almost definitely will be a solid player for years to come.
I have thought Mookie Betts was a better prospect than Baez since mid season 2013 roughly and nothing has changed my mind.
There is something though to the author’s hypothesis that teams may underhype their own players. I know someone who thought that the Yankees were very good at playing this game, overhyping prospects they knew were doomed to failure and trading them away (Jesus Montero, Brandon Claussen, to name two examples off the top of my head) and keeping underhyped prospects who they knew had potential (Robinson Cano being perhaps the best example). I’ve always wondered whether his theory could be tested, and whether there were any teams that were similarly good at evaluating their own prospects.
Replying to both of your posts in combination, I think teams can actually play upon the human preference to discuss someone with one crazy carrying skill (ex. Baez’s bat speed) vs. someone who’s average to slightly above-average across the board. So it must have been easy for the Yankees to keep folks interested in talking about Montero (power and contact ability, and hey, he’s a catcher too!) vs. someone like Brett Gardner who didn’t get the love as a high-floor/low ceiling kind of guy.
That’s an interesting way of putting it. So perhaps the Rays acquiring players like Drew Smyly and Nick Franklin for David Price is playing the opposite game?
Perhaps someone can help me out on this: the title of the article states that Calhoun wasn’t a prospect, yet Baseball America ranked him the Angels 20th prospect in 2011, and their number 11 prospect in 2012.
What gives?
Yes, their 11th best prospect in 2012, behind such luminaries as:
Johnny Hellweg
CJ Cron
Caleb Cowart
Taylor Lindsay
Dan Tillman
Ariel Pena
Nick Maronde
I think most people hit the nail on the head:
– drafted as a college senior (e.g. not good enough to come out as a JR.)
– short and stocky
– old for his leagues until AAA (because he was a college senior)
– when he hit AAA for the first time, he was merely ok (.877 OPS is unimpressive for the PCL)
There were of course some positive markers (that were ignored):
– good batting eye
– good contact skills
– good power
– no platoon issues at A+ or AAA
I’m not going to go back and check, but there are many guys who fit Calhoun’s profile that did turn into much of anything.
Sounds like an excellent research paper for someone with some mad BR Play Index skills:
Find a list of short stocky guys who were drafted as college seniors in the past 20 years and sort by WAR per season and career WAR. Calhoun (based on his 2014) should be near the top of the first list.
Heck, you could drop the size restriction and look at any college seniors, I don’t think the physical build really matters all that much.
College Senior draftees have been ripping up short season baseball since the dawn of time, and most of them don’t amount to anything.
Scouting is the art of projecting which players will improve, sustain or regress in their performance. In making those projections, many scouts rely heavily on how athletic a player appears and on his age relative to level. Calhoun does not look like an elite athlete as he is short and his musculature is not well defined. As a college draftee he was a bit old for each level. Scouts relied on those attributes to the exclusion of others and concluded he could not sustain performance as he moved up, then steadfastly maintained those beliefs and ignored contrary evidence. They are so wedded to age relative to level and athletic appearance that they took that as a proxy for projectability rather than mere evidence. In doing so they ignored how Calhoun sustained or improved despite skipping levels and rapidly advancing and they ignored his compact, controlled and powerful swing and they ignored his quick jumps, excellent route running, sure hands and a strong, accurate arm.
Not sure if this was asked earlier. Why is Calhoun a starter? His skill set seems quite replaceable. If a team is OK with settling for a 15HR 10SB .275 AVG ceiling, I would bet there are 100 guys that will never get the chance but could do the same.