Yankees Take Swing, Add Jazz

After the Orioles made two trades on Friday afternoon, the old-money machine has sputtered to life with 72 hours until the trade deadline. The New York Yankees have acquired center fielder Jazz Chisholm Jr. from the Miami Marlins in exchange for three prospects: Triple-A catcher Agustin Ramirez is the headline name, but the Marlins also get A-ball infielder Jared Serna, along with Abrahan Ramirez from the Yankees’ Complex League team.
Having a player named Jazz on the Yankees is like Christmas morning for the folks who write headlines for the New York Post. If I could have any job in mass media, it’d be writing back page headlines for… probably not literally the Post, but a tabloid with a slightly more erudite tone.
I bring up the tabloids because any conversation about Chisholm seems to end up being a conversation about the conversation about Chisholm, so let’s get that out of the way first.
A mooted Chisholm-to-the-Yankees trade has been bouncing around the rumor mill for a while now, and said rumors have kicked up no small amount of consternation. Chisholm isn’t everyone’s cup of tea; this spring, the then-Marlins outfielder talked openly about how his first couple seasons in the majors were turned into a toxic nightmare by veteran teammates who disliked him. That’s only Chisholm’s side of the story, of course, but his side of the story reads as that of a young player being bullied for the way he dresses.
With the Yankees reportedly concerned about Chisholm’s fit in the clubhouse, New York Daily News beat writer Gary Phillips talked to people within the Yankees organization who’d worked with Chisholm in Miami, including hitting coach James Rowson. For what it’s worth, none of Phillips’ interlocutors had anything bad to say about Chisholm.
There are examples of vague Bad Makeup chatter being a precursor to a player actually being a bad teammate or a bad person. But other times — more frequently, I’d argue — it turns out to be backbiting about an outspoken young player (especially a young Black or Caribbean player, like Chisholm) who’s viewed as not knowing his place.
Absent specific examples of Chisholm doing anything worse than wearing too much jewelry, I’m inclined to believe he’ll fit in just fine on the Yankees. There were similar concerns about Alex Verdugo and Marcus Stroman heading into this season, and despite those fears, the Yankees are 60-45 and as far as I’m aware they’re not on the brink of a season-ruining clubhouse meltdown. It’s even possible that Chisholm will benefit from being a big fish in the biggest pond in the country, as opposed to being the only Marlins player 90% of sports fans have heard of.
It’ll probably be fine. And if it does go bad, I’d like to take this opportunity to remind New York’s tabloid headline writers not to overlook the fact that “Chisholm” rhymes with “schism.” Don’t get fixated on making Jazz puns, or you’ll leave meat on the bone.
With all that said, I do actually agree with one stone critics love to fling at Chisholm: He is a little overrated. What I mean by that is he gets talked about like a star, when in actuality he’s more of an above-average starter at an up-the-middle position. He’s never hit 20 home runs or stolen 30 bases in a season. He’s not a very good percentage basestealer and he strikes out too much. And despite making an All-Star team and ending up on the cover of MLB: The Show, he’s never had a 3-WAR season. The best year of Chisholm’s career by a country mile was 2022, when he slugged .535 in a campaign that was cut to 60 games by back problems. And that player hasn’t been seen at any other point in Chisholm’s time in the majors.
So why do the Yankees want him?
Two reasons. The first is the list of starting center fielders they’ve used this season: Aaron Judge, who shouldn’t be playing center field, and Trent Grisham, who’s hitting .183. Chisholm could regress into an utter mediocrity and still help the Yankees.
Second, Chisholm’s made encouraging steps forward in several areas of weakness: He’s currently rocking a career-high walk rate and a career-low strikeout rate. A 24.9% strikeout rate isn’t good, but it’s tolerable, unlike the 30.8% mark Chisholm posted last year. His 22-for-30 stolen base rate isn’t anything to write home about, but he’s running at a higher volume this year and his overall baserunning metrics are among the top 10 in baseball. Chisholm’s power is down — he’s currently toting around a career-low .407 SLG — but his wRC+ is 104.
Now, 104 isn’t star-level, even for a center fielder. But the Yankees’ offense is currently being floated by two of the best hitters in baseball — you could argue the two best without being laughed out of the room — who are both having career years. Apart from Judge and Juan Soto, though, the Yankees have one, count ‘em one, healthy position player with at least 100 plate appearances and a wRC+ of 100 or better: Austin Wells. I guess they have two now, having just acquired Chisholm. It’s a weird thing to say about a Yankees team that’s on pace to win 93 games, but they need all the decent position players they can get.
And because Chisholm has experience at second base, he can plug multiple holes. Yankees third basemen are hitting .231/.292/.310 this year, leaving the Bronx Bombers 27th in the league in wRC+ at the hot corner. Could a galaxy-brained Aaron Boone install Chisholm at second and slide Gleyber Torres over to third? What’s the worst that could happen?
So Chisholm is an upgrade at a position of weakness. He makes the lineup younger and faster, and while he hasn’t shown much of it this year, he’s flashed serious power in the past, which might be relevant for a left-handed hitter moving to Yankee Stadium. Oh, and while the Yankees probably care less about this than most clubs, he’s making just $2.65 million this year and is under team control for two seasons beyond this one. Torres, it bears mentioning, is in his final year of team control. If and when he leaves as a free agent, Chisholm could fill the hole at second base.
What does all that cost?
The headline prospect moving down to Florida is Agustin Ramirez. The 22-year-old took ages to get out of rookie ball, but he made a big splash this spring by hitting 16 home runs in just 58 games for Double-A Somerset. That earned him a promotion to Triple-A, where he’s adjusting: .224/.328/.364 in 29 games, with iffy defense. Eric Longenhagen says it’s unlikely he stays at catcher full-time — his receiving is improving, but his blocking and throwing are liabilities. (I was crushed to learn that Ramirez’s arm was fringy; I was hoping he had an 80-grade cannon that would allow me to gift the tabloid gods with a “Guns of Agustin” pun.)
But that power is special, especially for a guy who can even fake it behind the plate. Eric sees him as a first baseman and DH who owns catcher’s gear and can get behind the plate a couple times a week, in the mold of a Ryan Jeffers or a young Mitch Garver. He moves into the Top 100 at no. 72 as a 50 FV prospect.
Serna, a 22-year-old 45+ FV prospect from Mexico, is a little guy (5-foot-7) who swings really hard and makes a good amount of contact for a hitter with that approach. He’s hitting .253/.341/.444 in A-ball with a 10.2% walk rate and a 15.3% strikeout rate. Serna was the no. 14 prospect in the Yankees system (Ramirez was no. 5), and while his arm isn’t up to the standards of an everyday shortstop, he has the potential to be a plus defender at second. Eric says that if he continues to hit, and to grow defensively, Serna has a shot to land on the Top 100 list this offseason and to reach the majors in 2025.
Having already acquired a Ramirez and a little guy in this trade, the Marlins round out their prospect return with someone who fits both of those descriptions. Abrahan Ramirez is a 19-year-old in his first season of complex ball in the U.S. — the Venezuela native had spent the previous two seasons at the Yankees’ facility in the Dominican Republic. He’s split time between second and third, and while his left-handed swing has produced only two home runs in 49 games, he’s hit 14 doubles and three triples. Teenagers on the complex being high-variance and far from the majors, you can probably forget about Abrahan Ramirez until and unless he hits at Double-A in a few years.
So for all the hemming and hawing, this is a pretty simple trade. The Yankees got an upgrade at a position of need, a player who is good now with the potential to get better. Oh, and he’s cheap and team-controlled. Not fixing the center field problem wasn’t really an option, so the alternatives were either sending the entire farm for Luis Robert Jr. or trying to work out a deal for someone like Lane Thomas, who isn’t as good as Chisholm and wouldn’t actually fix the center field problem anyway.
The Marlins either bought high on Agustin Ramirez or are acquiring him right as his career trajectory is on an upswing. Serna is a nice secondary piece, and whatever they get from Abrahan Ramirez is a bonus. How they feel about dealing their highest-profile position player five years from now will depend entirely on how well they develop these three prospects. It’s an A+ trade for the tabloid editors; for everyone else, it gets the job done.
Michael is a writer at FanGraphs. Previously, he was a staff writer at The Ringer and D1Baseball, and his work has appeared at Grantland, Baseball Prospectus, The Atlantic, ESPN.com, and various ill-remembered Phillies blogs. Follow him on Twitter, if you must, @MichaelBaumann.
Not entirely understanding why the Marlins wanted to deal Chisholm but not understanding what the Marlins are doing is pretty par for the course.
Because he is an oft-injured guy with only a little team control playing for a terrible team. The Marlins are in for a reboot.
He only has 3 years of service time. I wouldn’t really call that a little team control.
I dont mind the trade but i just dont think moving chisholm was a priority you have you do now.
Oh, I guess he has an extra year beyond what I thought. But they’re not willing to see if he plays better later, probably because of the injuries.
The return seems pretty good
Yeah. seems decent. Its gonna live and die with Ramirez though. If you think he winds up primarily a DH its probably not as good.
I’m a big Ramirez fan if he can stick at catcher he’s gonna be a pretty big asset even if he’s a first baseman/DH he’ll be a that as I very much believe in his bat.
Why is easy enough: they can sell to the fanbase that they are younger, cheaper, and have more Future. Fans, dogs serving business and consumption for the sake of, lap that stuff up
It’s the usual script: Chisholm is Actually not that Good, lusts for all the cap space, all The Future, and his greed knows no bounds. With him gone from the org a weight/burden is lifted and The Future* shines bright in the distance
*tbf White, Mack, and Meyer are an excellent even underrated – esp the first two – prospect trio
what did I just read and can I also have some mushrooms
Because he’s their most sellable asset.
This is the first deal this deadline where I think the seller walked away with full value (maybe even more). Agustin Ramirez should be given every chance to stick at catcher because that bat would be really special for a backstop. The other two prospects are interesting. And Jazz Chisholm gets hurt a lot, and they dealt him when he was healthy. Great deal for the Marlins.
Yeah, 50 + 45++ 40 for Chisholm versus 45+ + 40 +35 for Arozarena. Chisholm is a little better, but Mariners got a great deal.
Also, Angels get a 45+ + 45 for Estevez, a great return from the Phillies.
I just saw that. That’s a steep price for Estevez, but Dombrowski has never been shy about solving perceived needs.
I think 2 55’s for Mason Miller might have been achievable given what rental Estevez went for.
The Yankees did what they always do—they identified guys that they were willing to trade because to manage the 40-man and looked for the best upgrade they could. I think they’re dreaming of what Chisholm can do in that stadium with that short right field.
They clearly have zero faith in Grisham, and this allows them to stick Judge back in a corner spot where he belongs. But Grisham has actually out hit Chisholm over the last couple of months. If I am a team like the Guardians I am absolutely calling up the Yankees to see if they are getting rid of him for cheap. The Guardians could move Freeman back to second and Gimenez to shortstop…
What the Yankees really need is an infielder, and unless they ditch Torres this isn’t it. Chisholm isn’t that good in center field, and they had a decent option there as a platoon. Seems like a steep price to pay for an up and down player. At least they might have solved second base for next year?
Do we know that they won’t put Chisholm at 2B and either move Torres to 3B or trade for a 3B? This doesn’t need to be the end. Also I’m not seeing what’s wrong with Judge in CF if he likes playing there
Its amazing that someone his size can play a passable CF but I have to also think its pretty tough on him physically because of that size. The yankees probably very much would prefer to have him playing a corner just to take some of the punishment off him.
Yes, if you’re the Yankees paying Judge 9/360m, who cares where he wants to play? You do what you have to do to move him to RF.
I see comments like this about Judge all the time. Do people not watch the NBA?
Torres wasn’t great at third the last time he was there and Jazz has some throwing concerns. I think one of them might work if they had some time to work on it, like in Spring Training. Doing it now is definitely a gamble.
I dunno, the Yankees keep playing Grisham and he seems well liked in the clubhouse. He’s the Yankees’ only real CFer on the team if we don’t count Judge. The Yankees also seem to value premium CF defense, as shown by their trades for both Bader and then Grisham to play CF.
Who would Cleveland want for Grisham? Because if they have some pitchers, either starters or relievers, to trade, the Yankees might actually go for that.
They should keep playing him, and they could. But do we really think they are moving Torres to a bench role, then? There definitely is not enough space for all of Jazz, Grisham, and Torres right now.
Feel like Grisham gets scaled back down to where he was initially…or one of Jazz and Gleyber goes to 3B.
I’m fine with this deal. I think it’s fair. The Yankees have their catcher of the future in Austin Wells and they obviously still like Trevino as well. I don’t think Ramirez had a place on this roster. Also the Yankees have some catchers they like in complex ball. I think Engelth Urena is probably the Yankees 5th best prospect and really a better version of the catcher they just traded away. Literally no prospect his age has his combination of power, patience, and contact ability. He’s a little old for complex ball at almost 20, but he has basically no pro experience, missed the entire 2023 season, and is doing *this*.
Michael, this is one of the best written articles I’ve read in a long time. Baseball context be gone, this is just exceptional writing.
I noticed that as well.
The Yankees playing musical chairs in CF was right there, and there should have been a tie-in with Steve Sax
No mention of the imminent return of Jasson Dominguez, a center fielder?
If Jasson displaces anybody it’s Verdugo or Grisham.
Great article, but a few key things are missing. With Grisham playing a serviceable center field, and Jasson Dominguez back from injury in AAA., it seems unlikely that Jazz will actually play CF. This is probably a good thing. His defense grades out much better at second base. With Torres’s struggles and looming free agency, I think it’s pretty clear Jazz will be slotted in at 2b, with either a move to 3b for Torres or a trade to a WC hopeful as a usable rental bat. Also, Soto has been playing a great right field, so it’s hard to imagine Judge would force him to left just to avoid center, where he’s been league average over a pretty large sample size. With Verdugo struggling, Dominguez is likely to replace him in left and possibly split time with Judge in CF. Grisham has been getting significant playing time and I can much more easily imagine the yanks moving on from Torres before Grisham as a fourth outfielder. Additionally, when you consider the fact that there will be no rostered 2b for next season, it’s fair to assume they plan on making Jazz the second baseman for the foreseeable future. Why would they avoid getting him his reps there as soon as he comes over?
Torres has been hot lately I don’t believe he nor Jazz has any experience at third base and Joel Sherman and Andy Martino say they’re still looking for a third baseman. I would try my best to move Verdugo even if you get very little for him given his struggles.
Man based on the prices for mid bats thus far you gotta imagine they can get a little squeeze of value from Verdugo. Also yeah I think they’ll likely land India or Yandy for 3b, or just ride with Jon Berti.
Berti if healthy and playing to par works for that team if everyone else is healthy.
The Yankees absolutely care that Jazz is somewhat cheap: they have already said they don’t plan on having this type of payroll forever, but also that they want to keep Soto beyond this year. That means they need cheap, decent players to fill out the rest of the lineup.
“I’d argue — it turns out to be backbiting about an outspoken young player (especially a young Black or Caribbean player, like Chisholm) who’s viewed as not knowing his place“
Props to calling this out, NY esp sports media seems to be getting *more* racist and passively racist as I get older. I’d actually take the “outspoken” word out and just leave in young player. This digitized, braindead, tirefire of a Free and Brave so-ciety feels all young people are outspoken, need to Prove themselves worthy of this trash culture obsessed with trinkets/pwopewty and playing business boss dwess up. Its truly pathetic, pitiful. Never forget white men invented money for white men and their progeny so they could live shallow, delusional, play pretend lives
Love the move for the Yankees, Chisholm’s a dynamic player and enjoys what he does, gets involved, and is good at it. For the Marlins feel the Mack/Ramirez catching duo has a high ceiling
“Never forget white men invented money for white men and their progeny so they could live shallow, delusional, play pretend lives”
Seems unlikely.
Of course NY media is getting more racist. NY has embraced identity/DEI politics which are supported by our oligarchs because the citizenry now divide themselves by race/gender/sexuality and are easily conquered economically and politically.
In other words, we’re now taught to “judge a book by it’s cover” and place outsized importance on race/gender instead of putting the emphasis on character(the content of the book). It’s impossible for a multicultural population to unify while constantly focusing on our immutable differences.
Your comments on whites and money are a perfect example of the division that the Oligarch class is funding and promoting
“ In other words, we’re now taught to “judge a book by it’s cover”
Now? This is new? This “outsized importance” on race and gender is new? You must be a white man, wild guess let’s say say 60+ and stuck wallowing in the suburbs (to get away from lol) for decades. Looking at a book cover is the extent of ‘Merican reading skills
My comment about money is Actually because it’s the backbone of all the divisions they’ve engineered. It’s passed btw them, allowed them to lie, cheat, steal, rape, murder, and pillage the world and then call all their victims entitled and overpaidz
Entitled and overpaidz the tip of the iceberg btw…Lazy, stupid, savage, backwards, the list goes on and on…I’d recommend CLR James’ Black Jacobins or The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander to perceive how lower class/small whites fought and fight so they can say they’re higher than someone in the system. Race and gender themselves are terms invented by white men to build this hierarchy with them (and their weapons, tools of oppression like guns) on top in what they imagine is a Free and Brave so-ciety
I disagree with most of this thread…but any reference to Black Jacobins gets an upvote from me!
The crazed focus on race/gender/sexuality is “new” in that it is traceable and went mainstream in the early 2010s.
Our national press and education system started heavily pushing identity politics after the Occupy Wall Street protests.
My guess is the oligarchs were horrified that the population was starting to support populism and spread messages like unifying against the corrupt 1%.
I am a white dude but all of your other assumptions/stereotyping were way off and make you look like a prejudiced jackass frankly.
You’re correct that money has and always will be a social control tool but to think that this is a white person problem and not a human nature problem is foolish
“The crazed focus on race/gender/sexuality is “new” in that it is traceable and went mainstream in the early 2010s.”
My guy you’re as deaf, dumb, and blind as is easy to imagine if you think sex, race, and gender are new issues. If anything is new its that people who aren’t white men better perceive the depths of their lies and deception over time, which was always going to be the case given how flimsy most lies were (constructed from a position of fake power, maintained and perpetuated by violence)
“ You’re correct that money has and always will be a social control tool but to think that this is a white person problem ”
I said white men made it up, not that it’s exclusively a white problem. They, violently, made it everyone’s problem
Ftr these words do cloud that we agree on one thing: the divides are imaginary. Let’s just not pretend they’re new and the issue is people pointing out they’re built on mountains of lies and dead people, by and for the overwhelming benefit of one specific demo
Issues around race and gender are as old as civilization but there’s been a clear shift in how the West handles them in the past 15 years or so. That’s what’s new.
Imagine the world wakes up tomorrow and every white man is dead. Humanity would still have all the same issues we’ve always had.
Human nature doesn’t change. There’s not a particular race/gender/sexuality that are pure/innocent or impure/guilty.
Jewish Europeans suffered and overcame the Nazi genocide and less than 100 years later Jewish Israelis are genociding the Palestinians.
The victims have become the victimizers. The cycle repeats. That’s humanity in a nutshell
Just so. The Democratic party’s primary purpose and aim is to derail left-economic populism, and as has been said elsewhere, Biden wasn’t picked by the oligarchy to beat Trump—he was picked to beat Sanders.
Anyone listening to the rich talk knew that even as of early 2020 and despite Dems’ manufactured Russiagate hysteria, they vastly preferred Trump to Sanders.
Indeed. I thought Sanders would have won in 2016 had he not been pushed aside for Hillary.
So much of Trump’s rise is simply because the dysfunctional modern Left won’t stop sabotaging itself and our society
Well said.
“Never forget white men….”
‘Thanks’ for your contribution to keeping racism alive.
Is this the same NY sports media that is reporting Trent Grisham as a “good clubhouse presence”?
I think your concluding statement was spot on, but disagree about how Chisholm fits on the 2024 Yankees.
For starters, Grisham and Torres have actually been hitting pretty well over the last two months, so if he outright replaces one, it won’t necessarily be an upgrade, especially in CF where Chisholm isn’t very good.
The Yankees could, perhaps, move Torres to 3B, but his bat doesn’t exactly profile at that position, and, more importantly, it potentially creates a big defensive liability at a prime position. What’s more, Torres did not deal well with the move SS earlier in his career, so the added adversity of a position change two months before FA might be a recipe for disaster.
Finally, the idea that Chisholm fills the Yankees hole in the leadoff spot is also iffy. His OBP is solid this year, but not great for his career, and his speed will be neutered. The Yankees will not want to risk outs on the bases in front of Soto and Judge, and also wont want to open up 1B when he is successful.
Chisholm is the cheap replacement for Torres in 2025, so that’s likely why they pulled the trigger here. But, for this season, the Yankees made, at best, a lateral move.
Obviously he came up in the minors as a SS. As I recall his numbers were fine but he made some errors and got some criticism?
He’s a genuinely bad SS, in fairness.
I think the NY Post jibes are hilarious. Very well written
Thre problem is not clubhouse chemistry, it is that he has been an oft injured player who when has has played is nothing special. He is not as star, not a game-changer and this trade is much ado about nothing.