2013 ZiPS Projections – Oakland Athletics
Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections, which have typically appeared in the pages of Baseball Think Factory, will be released at FanGraphs this year. Below is the second set of 2013’s projections — for the AL West champion Oakland Athletics. Don’t hesitate to leave notes regarding format/presentation in the comments section, as the author frequently has no idea what he’s doing.
Batters
With his offseason acquisition of outfielder Chris Young (for Cliff Pennington and a minor leaguer), GM Billy Beane has created a good kind of the problem for the A’s: four of the team’s five best field players, per ZiPS — and four of the five team’s field players projected to record a WAR above 2.0 — are outfielders. Coco Crisp and Young both have positive career UZRs in center field; Reddick has the same in right. All three have pretty large sample sizes at their respective positions. Yoenis Cespedes has neither decent fielding numbers nor a sample that requires us to weight said numbers heavily. Still, based on the defensive reputations of all four players, it wouldn’t be shocking to see a lineup with Cespedes at DH and the other three playing the outfield.
Outside of that quadrumvirate — and newly signed Japanese shortstop Hiroyuki Nakajima (about whom Jeff Sullivan recently made some shockingly intelligent comments) — ZiPS sees mostly pieces, but little impact.
Pitchers
Brett Anderson’s health is important to Oakland’s success next year, likely — and the lack of it over the last two-plus seasons is what has produced here a rather conservative projection for Anderson’s 2013. After him, there’s considerable youth. Jarrod Parker, Tommy Milone, A.J. Griffin, and Dan Straily: together, they have 88 career starts. The first three, however, all posted FIP-minuses of 100 or lower in a starting role last season.
Despite the fact that he’s pitched professionally for all of one season (after converting from first base) and now has more major-league innings (47.1) than minor-league ones (26.0), it might not be entirely ridiculous to suggest that left-hander Sean Doolittle is the best relief pitcher on the A’s right now. He posted a 73 xFIP- and 1.6 WAR in 2012, while posting similar strikeout/walk differentials against lefties and righties. ZiPS projects Doolittle to post both the team’s highest strikeout rate and lowest FIP.
Bench/Prospects
Acquired from Boston in the Andrew Bailey trade, Miles Head is a player about whose offensive potential Marc Hulet had some positive things to say this past April — and for whose defensive potential Hulet reserved less glowing remarks. The A’s moved him back to third base this season after he’d played mostly first in the Boston system. ZiPS is optimistic about him — although, after splitting his 2012 season between High- and Double-A, Head is likely to spend most of 2013 in the minors.
Depth Chart
Here’s a rough depth chart for the A’s, with rounded projected WAR totals for each player (click to embiggen):

Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Credit to MLB Depth Charts for roster information.
Batters, Counting Stats
| Player | B | Age | PO | PA | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yoenis Cespedes | R | 27 | CF | 625 | 90 | 155 | 25 | 4 | 23 | 84 | 13 | 5 |
| Chris Young | R | 29 | CF | 525 | 59 | 103 | 26 | 1 | 16 | 51 | 16 | 6 |
| Coco Crisp | B | 33 | CF | 462 | 63 | 109 | 21 | 6 | 8 | 42 | 32 | 5 |
| Hiroyuki Nakajima | R | 30 | SS | 626 | 78 | 156 | 25 | 3 | 8 | 81 | 13 | 8 |
| Josh Reddick | L | 26 | RF | 614 | 72 | 136 | 29 | 5 | 22 | 63 | 7 | 4 |
| Josh Donaldson | R | 27 | 3B | 535 | 63 | 114 | 26 | 1 | 15 | 66 | 7 | 3 |
| Stephen Drew | L | 30 | SS | 451 | 53 | 96 | 19 | 5 | 8 | 43 | 4 | 3 |
| Miles Head | R | 22 | 3B | 602 | 61 | 138 | 28 | 4 | 15 | 58 | 3 | 2 |
| Brandon Moss | L | 29 | LF | 532 | 65 | 113 | 26 | 1 | 21 | 70 | 5 | 4 |
| Derek Norris | R | 24 | C | 470 | 52 | 79 | 18 | 1 | 12 | 48 | 8 | 3 |
| Chris Carter | R | 26 | 1B | 568 | 73 | 115 | 26 | 1 | 25 | 73 | 4 | 2 |
| Andy Parrino | B | 27 | SS | 462 | 51 | 88 | 20 | 3 | 6 | 39 | 5 | 2 |
| Daric Barton | L | 27 | 1B | 496 | 57 | 95 | 22 | 2 | 7 | 43 | 5 | 2 |
| Seth Smith | L | 30 | LF | 445 | 53 | 95 | 21 | 3 | 13 | 47 | 4 | 2 |
| Scott Sizemore | R | 28 | 2B | 453 | 54 | 93 | 20 | 2 | 9 | 43 | 6 | 3 |
| Eric Sogard | L | 27 | 2B | 464 | 58 | 105 | 17 | 3 | 6 | 38 | 10 | 5 |
| Collin Cowgill | R | 27 | CF | 514 | 51 | 111 | 21 | 3 | 7 | 48 | 16 | 5 |
| Jemile Weeks | B | 26 | 2B | 544 | 61 | 120 | 21 | 8 | 3 | 35 | 17 | 7 |
| Brandon Inge | R | 36 | 3B | 428 | 38 | 83 | 16 | 2 | 11 | 48 | 1 | 2 |
| George Kottaras | L | 30 | C | 222 | 20 | 42 | 9 | 1 | 6 | 24 | 0 | 1 |
| Adam Rosales | R | 30 | SS | 352 | 39 | 75 | 15 | 2 | 7 | 37 | 3 | 2 |
| Scott Moore | L | 29 | 3B | 437 | 47 | 91 | 20 | 1 | 11 | 49 | 2 | 2 |
| Shane Peterson | L | 25 | LF | 484 | 51 | 96 | 18 | 3 | 7 | 42 | 9 | 3 |
| Jermaine Mitchell | L | 28 | CF | 543 | 60 | 105 | 17 | 7 | 6 | 37 | 14 | 10 |
| Michael Taylor | R | 27 | RF | 538 | 63 | 112 | 23 | 2 | 10 | 56 | 12 | 4 |
| Michael Choice | R | 23 | CF | 511 | 50 | 104 | 19 | 2 | 12 | 48 | 5 | 4 |
| Luke Montz | R | 29 | 1B | 397 | 40 | 72 | 15 | 0 | 14 | 47 | 2 | 2 |
| Steve Parker | L | 25 | 3B | 525 | 51 | 106 | 21 | 3 | 7 | 49 | 3 | 2 |
| Jason Jaramillo | B | 30 | C | 287 | 23 | 55 | 12 | 0 | 2 | 24 | 1 | 1 |
| Wes Timmons | R | 34 | 2B | 325 | 36 | 70 | 13 | 0 | 3 | 26 | 7 | 3 |
| Josh Horton | L | 27 | 2B | 445 | 43 | 89 | 17 | 3 | 4 | 44 | 3 | 2 |
| Grant Green | R | 25 | LF | 634 | 67 | 147 | 28 | 3 | 9 | 56 | 8 | 7 |
| Matt Rizzotti | L | 27 | 1B | 481 | 41 | 101 | 23 | 1 | 9 | 44 | 2 | 1 |
Batters, Rates and Averages
| Player | PA | BB% | K% | ISO | BABIP | BA | OBP | SLG | wOBA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yoenis Cespedes | 625 | 7.8% | 16.6% | .179 | .299 | .273 | .338 | .452 | .343 |
| Chris Young | 525 | 11.6% | 23.4% | .167 | .271 | .225 | .319 | .392 | .314 |
| Coco Crisp | 462 | 8.2% | 12.3% | .137 | .285 | .263 | .322 | .400 | .320 |
| Hiroyuki Nakajima | 626 | 5.6% | 14.9% | .095 | .306 | .271 | .316 | .366 | .298 |
| Josh Reddick | 614 | 7.7% | 21.2% | .187 | .275 | .243 | .300 | .430 | .311 |
| Josh Donaldson | 535 | 7.3% | 22.1% | .149 | .277 | .234 | .295 | .383 | .297 |
| Stephen Drew | 451 | 9.8% | 20.2% | .132 | .288 | .238 | .313 | .370 | .298 |
| Miles Head | 602 | 6.0% | 27.1% | .145 | .322 | .247 | .299 | .392 | .301 |
| Brandon Moss | 532 | 8.3% | 25.8% | .190 | .284 | .236 | .305 | .426 | .314 |
| Derek Norris | 470 | 13.0% | 30.0% | .140 | .267 | .198 | .307 | .338 | .290 |
| Chris Carter | 568 | 10.7% | 29.2% | .208 | .288 | .231 | .317 | .439 | .327 |
| Andy Parrino | 462 | 9.7% | 27.5% | .108 | .297 | .217 | .302 | .325 | .273 |
| Daric Barton | 496 | 14.7% | 17.9% | .114 | .276 | .231 | .351 | .345 | .312 |
| Seth Smith | 445 | 10.1% | 21.1% | .169 | .284 | .242 | .324 | .411 | .314 |
| Scott Sizemore | 453 | 9.3% | 25.8% | .128 | .305 | .233 | .313 | .361 | .296 |
| Eric Sogard | 464 | 8.2% | 12.5% | .098 | .277 | .250 | .314 | .348 | .292 |
| Collin Cowgill | 514 | 7.4% | 20.6% | .103 | .291 | .238 | .299 | .341 | .284 |
| Jemile Weeks | 544 | 8.1% | 15.3% | .095 | .290 | .247 | .314 | .342 | .290 |
| Brandon Inge | 428 | 8.2% | 27.1% | .138 | .276 | .216 | .286 | .354 | .279 |
| George Kottaras | 222 | 13.5% | 22.5% | .153 | .267 | .221 | .326 | .374 | .306 |
| Adam Rosales | 352 | 6.8% | 21.3% | .125 | .280 | .234 | .288 | .359 | .280 |
| Scott Moore | 437 | 8.0% | 22.0% | .141 | .280 | .235 | .306 | .376 | .295 |
| Shane Peterson | 484 | 9.9% | 25.6% | .105 | .299 | .225 | .311 | .330 | .286 |
| Jermaine Mitchell | 543 | 9.0% | 27.3% | .101 | .296 | .216 | .291 | .317 | .268 |
| Michael Taylor | 538 | 9.5% | 22.9% | .118 | .291 | .233 | .310 | .351 | .294 |
| Michael Choice | 511 | 7.0% | 28.0% | .127 | .293 | .223 | .286 | .350 | .277 |
| Luke Montz | 397 | 9.6% | 27.5% | .161 | .249 | .204 | .285 | .365 | .281 |
| Steve Parker | 525 | 7.8% | 25.0% | .101 | .291 | .224 | .289 | .325 | .270 |
| Jason Jaramillo | 287 | 7.0% | 20.9% | .069 | .262 | .210 | .272 | .279 | .246 |
| Wes Timmons | 325 | 8.6% | 8.3% | .077 | .261 | .246 | .326 | .323 | .292 |
| Josh Horton | 445 | 7.0% | 23.4% | .085 | .280 | .218 | .274 | .303 | .256 |
| Grant Green | 634 | 4.6% | 21.1% | .103 | .303 | .247 | .285 | .350 | .275 |
| Matt Rizzotti | 481 | 8.7% | 28.3% | .120 | .315 | .232 | .301 | .352 | .284 |
Batters, Assorted Other
| Player | PA | RC/27 | OPS+ | Def | WAR | No.1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yoenis Cespedes | 625 | 5.7 | 117 | -6 | 3.2 | Vernon Wells |
| Chris Young | 525 | 4.4 | 96 | 5 | 2.3 | David Cook |
| Coco Crisp | 462 | 5.3 | 99 | 0 | 2.2 | Stan Javier |
| Hiroyuki Nakajima | 626 | 4.2 | 89 | 1 | 2.2 | Julio Franco |
| Josh Reddick | 614 | 4.6 | 99 | 7 | 2.1 | Ryan Church |
| Josh Donaldson | 535 | 4.0 | 86 | 3 | 1.7 | Gary Gaetti |
| Stephen Drew | 451 | 4.1 | 89 | -1 | 1.4 | Lou Collier |
| Miles Head | 602 | 4.2 | 90 | -3 | 1.4 | Brook Jacoby |
| Brandon Moss | 532 | 4.5 | 100 | 1 | 1.3 | Luke Scott |
| Derek Norris | 470 | 3.5 | 79 | -3 | 1.2 | Luke Montz |
| Chris Carter | 568 | 4.9 | 107 | -4 | 1.2 | Mark Strucher |
| Andy Parrino | 462 | 3.4 | 74 | 0 | 1.0 | Nick Green |
| Daric Barton | 496 | 4.3 | 94 | 2 | 0.9 | Mike Twardoski |
| Seth Smith | 445 | 4.7 | 102 | -3 | 0.8 | Ben Broussard |
| Scott Sizemore | 453 | 4.0 | 86 | -3 | 0.8 | Mike Blowers |
| Eric Sogard | 464 | 3.9 | 83 | -2 | 0.8 | Ed Giovanola |
| Collin Cowgill | 514 | 3.8 | 77 | 0 | 0.8 | Lou Collier |
| Jemile Weeks | 544 | 3.9 | 82 | -4 | 0.7 | Nelson Liriano |
| Brandon Inge | 428 | 3.4 | 76 | 2 | 0.7 | Jason Wood |
| George Kottaras | 222 | 4.1 | 94 | -3 | 0.7 | Mike Fitzgerald |
| Adam Rosales | 352 | 3.6 | 78 | -2 | 0.6 | Nick Green |
| Scott Moore | 437 | 4.0 | 88 | -6 | 0.5 | Matt Craig |
| Shane Peterson | 484 | 3.7 | 78 | 3 | 0.4 | Andy Tomberlin |
| Jermaine Mitchell | 543 | 3.1 | 69 | 2 | 0.2 | Herm Winningham |
| Michael Taylor | 538 | 3.9 | 83 | -2 | 0.2 | Jordan Czarniecki |
| Michael Choice | 511 | 3.4 | 75 | -3 | 0.1 | Lance Hallberg |
| Luke Montz | 397 | 3.5 | 79 | 2 | 0.0 | Ryan Jones |
| Steve Parker | 525 | 3.2 | 70 | -4 | 0.0 | Chris Saunders |
| Jason Jaramillo | 287 | 2.6 | 53 | -2 | -0.1 | Chris Tremie |
| Wes Timmons | 325 | 3.8 | 81 | -7 | -0.1 | Ted Sizemore |
| Josh Horton | 445 | 2.8 | 60 | -1 | -0.2 | Jim Mason |
| Grant Green | 634 | 3.5 | 75 | 2 | -0.3 | Rod Allen |
| Matt Rizzotti | 481 | 3.7 | 81 | -3 | -0.4 | Lyle Overbay |
Pitchers, Counting Stats
| Player | T | Age | G | GS | IP | SO | BB | HR | H | R | ER |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jarrod Parker | R | 24 | 33 | 33 | 195.7 | 153 | 69 | 14 | 190 | 88 | 82 |
| Tommy Milone | L | 26 | 29 | 29 | 173.3 | 130 | 31 | 17 | 185 | 81 | 76 |
| Dan Straily | R | 24 | 31 | 31 | 170.0 | 153 | 79 | 21 | 161 | 85 | 79 |
| A.J. Griffin | R | 25 | 31 | 31 | 171.3 | 121 | 47 | 22 | 170 | 86 | 80 |
| Bartolo Colon | R | 40 | 20 | 20 | 127.0 | 75 | 23 | 15 | 136 | 62 | 58 |
| Sean Doolittle | L | 26 | 61 | 0 | 71.3 | 83 | 27 | 6 | 57 | 27 | 25 |
| Brett Anderson | L | 25 | 15 | 15 | 83.3 | 57 | 20 | 8 | 86 | 40 | 37 |
| Grant Balfour | R | 35 | 61 | 0 | 57.3 | 57 | 21 | 5 | 47 | 21 | 20 |
| Ryan Cook | R | 26 | 67 | 0 | 68.3 | 66 | 31 | 5 | 58 | 28 | 26 |
| Pat Neshek | R | 32 | 57 | 0 | 56.7 | 48 | 17 | 4 | 56 | 24 | 22 |
| Travis Blackley | L | 30 | 26 | 13 | 88.0 | 61 | 34 | 9 | 88 | 46 | 43 |
| Jerry Blevins | L | 29 | 59 | 0 | 57.0 | 51 | 22 | 6 | 52 | 26 | 24 |
| Jordan Norberto | L | 26 | 48 | 0 | 55.3 | 53 | 30 | 5 | 49 | 26 | 24 |
| Evan Scribner | R | 27 | 52 | 0 | 59.0 | 50 | 22 | 7 | 58 | 30 | 28 |
| Chris Resop | R | 30 | 55 | 0 | 58.7 | 49 | 24 | 6 | 59 | 30 | 28 |
| Mike Ekstrom | R | 29 | 52 | 1 | 66.7 | 45 | 28 | 6 | 71 | 36 | 34 |
| Jeremy Accardo | R | 31 | 48 | 0 | 58.0 | 35 | 28 | 5 | 62 | 33 | 31 |
| Pedro Figueroa | L | 27 | 52 | 0 | 61.7 | 40 | 40 | 6 | 63 | 35 | 33 |
| Jesse Chavez | R | 29 | 41 | 9 | 88.0 | 62 | 31 | 13 | 98 | 55 | 51 |
| Brad Peacock | R | 25 | 27 | 24 | 128.3 | 101 | 71 | 17 | 142 | 83 | 78 |
| Justin Thomas | L | 29 | 51 | 0 | 62.3 | 41 | 28 | 8 | 69 | 39 | 36 |
| Garrett Olson | L | 29 | 33 | 15 | 89.7 | 58 | 56 | 11 | 106 | 64 | 60 |
| Arnold Leon | R | 24 | 45 | 0 | 63.0 | 45 | 32 | 10 | 74 | 43 | 40 |
| Andrew Werner | L | 26 | 26 | 26 | 132.3 | 79 | 49 | 23 | 170 | 98 | 92 |
| Fabio Castro | L | 28 | 26 | 17 | 90.7 | 54 | 65 | 16 | 120 | 79 | 74 |
Pitchers, Rates and Averages
| Player | IP | TBF | K% | BB% | BABIP | ERA | FIP | ERA- | FIP- |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jarrod Parker | 195.7 | 833 | 18.4% | 8.3% | .290 | 3.77 | 3.53 | 94 | 88 |
| Tommy Milone | 173.3 | 725 | 17.9% | 4.3% | .301 | 3.95 | 3.49 | 98 | 87 |
| Dan Straily | 170.0 | 740 | 20.7% | 10.7% | .283 | 4.18 | 4.47 | 104 | 111 |
| A.J. Griffin | 171.3 | 721 | 16.8% | 6.5% | .271 | 4.20 | 4.28 | 104 | 106 |
| Bartolo Colon | 127.0 | 531 | 14.1% | 4.3% | .280 | 4.11 | 3.95 | 102 | 98 |
| Sean Doolittle | 71.3 | 293 | 28.3% | 9.2% | .281 | 3.15 | 3.04 | 78 | 75 |
| Brett Anderson | 83.3 | 351 | 16.3% | 5.7% | .290 | 4.00 | 3.84 | 99 | 95 |
| Grant Balfour | 57.3 | 235 | 24.3% | 8.9% | .267 | 3.14 | 3.23 | 78 | 80 |
| Ryan Cook | 68.3 | 287 | 23.0% | 10.8% | .284 | 3.42 | 3.52 | 85 | 87 |
| Pat Neshek | 56.7 | 238 | 20.1% | 7.1% | .307 | 3.49 | 3.32 | 87 | 83 |
| Travis Blackley | 88.0 | 382 | 16.0% | 8.9% | .279 | 4.40 | 4.30 | 109 | 107 |
| Jerry Blevins | 57.0 | 239 | 21.3% | 9.2% | .282 | 3.79 | 3.83 | 94 | 95 |
| Jordan Norberto | 55.3 | 240 | 22.1% | 12.5% | .284 | 3.90 | 3.98 | 97 | 99 |
| Evan Scribner | 59.0 | 254 | 19.7% | 8.7% | .283 | 4.27 | 4.16 | 106 | 103 |
| Chris Resop | 58.7 | 251 | 19.5% | 9.6% | .301 | 4.30 | 3.83 | 107 | 95 |
| Mike Ekstrom | 66.7 | 295 | 15.3% | 9.5% | .298 | 4.59 | 4.31 | 114 | 107 |
| Jeremy Accardo | 58.0 | 259 | 13.5% | 10.8% | .294 | 4.81 | 4.46 | 119 | 111 |
| Pedro Figueroa | 61.7 | 284 | 14.1% | 14.1% | .284 | 4.82 | 5.10 | 120 | 127 |
| Jesse Chavez | 88.0 | 387 | 16.0% | 8.0% | .296 | 5.22 | 4.80 | 130 | 119 |
| Brad Peacock | 128.3 | 590 | 17.1% | 12.0% | .305 | 5.47 | 5.07 | 136 | 126 |
| Justin Thomas | 62.3 | 280 | 14.7% | 10.0% | .295 | 5.20 | 4.94 | 129 | 123 |
| Garrett Olson | 89.7 | 425 | 13.7% | 13.2% | .312 | 6.02 | 5.40 | 149 | 134 |
| Arnold Leon | 63.0 | 292 | 15.4% | 11.0% | .304 | 5.71 | 5.44 | 142 | 135 |
| Andrew Werner | 132.3 | 607 | 13.0% | 8.1% | .312 | 6.26 | 5.41 | 155 | 134 |
| Fabio Castro | 90.7 | 452 | 12.0% | 14.4% | .319 | 7.35 | 6.55 | 182 | 163 |
Pitchers, Assorted Other
| Player | IP | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | ERA+ | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jarrod Parker | 195.7 | 7.04 | 3.17 | 0.64 | 103 | 3.0 | Greg Maddux |
| Tommy Milone | 173.3 | 6.75 | 1.61 | 0.88 | 99 | 2.3 | Glendon Rusch |
| Dan Straily | 170.0 | 8.10 | 4.18 | 1.11 | 93 | 1.8 | Jeff Juden |
| A.J. Griffin | 171.3 | 6.36 | 2.47 | 1.16 | 93 | 1.7 | Mike Boddicker |
| Bartolo Colon | 127.0 | 5.31 | 1.63 | 1.06 | 95 | 1.4 | Mike Morgan |
| Sean Doolittle | 71.3 | 10.48 | 3.41 | 0.76 | 124 | 1.3 | Al Hrabosky |
| Brett Anderson | 83.3 | 6.16 | 2.16 | 0.86 | 98 | 1.1 | Justin Atchley |
| Grant Balfour | 57.3 | 8.95 | 3.30 | 0.79 | 124 | 1.0 | Eric Plunk |
| Ryan Cook | 68.3 | 8.70 | 4.08 | 0.66 | 114 | 0.9 | Bryce Florie |
| Pat Neshek | 56.7 | 7.62 | 2.70 | 0.63 | 112 | 0.7 | John Habyan |
| Travis Blackley | 88.0 | 6.24 | 3.48 | 0.92 | 89 | 0.6 | Scott Schoeneweis |
| Jerry Blevins | 57.0 | 8.05 | 3.47 | 0.95 | 103 | 0.5 | John Grabow |
| Jordan Norberto | 55.3 | 8.63 | 4.88 | 0.81 | 100 | 0.4 | Darren Oliver |
| Evan Scribner | 59.0 | 7.63 | 3.36 | 1.07 | 91 | 0.1 | Jerrod Riggan |
| Chris Resop | 58.7 | 7.51 | 3.68 | 0.92 | 91 | 0.1 | Roberto Giron |
| Mike Ekstrom | 66.7 | 6.07 | 3.78 | 0.81 | 85 | -0.1 | Mike Bumstead |
| Jeremy Accardo | 58.0 | 5.43 | 4.34 | 0.78 | 81 | -0.4 | Jake Robbins |
| Pedro Figueroa | 61.7 | 5.83 | 5.83 | 0.88 | 81 | -0.4 | Dean Brueggemann |
| Jesse Chavez | 88.0 | 6.34 | 3.17 | 1.33 | 75 | -0.4 | Brian Sweeney |
| Brad Peacock | 128.3 | 7.08 | 4.98 | 1.19 | 71 | -0.6 | Doug Robertson |
| Justin Thomas | 62.3 | 5.92 | 4.04 | 1.16 | 75 | -0.8 | Joe Beimel |
| Garrett Olson | 89.7 | 5.82 | 5.62 | 1.10 | 65 | -1.1 | Kevin Rawitzer |
| Arnold Leon | 63.0 | 6.43 | 4.57 | 1.43 | 68 | -1.2 | Jim Dorsey |
| Andrew Werner | 132.3 | 5.37 | 3.33 | 1.56 | 62 | -1.8 | Nate Teut |
| Fabio Castro | 90.7 | 5.36 | 6.45 | 1.59 | 53 | -2.5 | Corey Lee |
Disclaimer: ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance. Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors — many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2012. ZiPS is projecting equivalent production — a .240 ZiPS projection may end up being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example. Whether or not a player will play is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting the future.
Players are listed with their most recent teams unless Dan has made a mistake. This is very possible as a lot of minor-league signings are generally unreported in the offseason.
ZiPS is projecting based on the AL having a 4.09 ERA and the NL having a 3.92 ERA.
Players that are expected to be out due to injury are still projected. More information is always better than less information and a computer isn’t what should be projecting the injury status of, for example, a pitcher with Tommy John surgery.
Regarding ERA+ vs. ERA- (and FIP+ vs. FIP-) and the differences therein: as Patriot notes here, they are not simply mirror images of each other. Writes Patriot: “ERA+ does not tell you that a pitcher’s ERA was X% less or more than the league’s ERA. It tells you that the league’s ERA was X% less or more than the pitcher’s ERA.”
Both hitters and pitchers are ranked by projected WAR.
Dan Szymborski can be found on Twitter @DSzymborski.
Other 2013 Projections: Giants.
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If a replacement level team has 43 wins and the projection above totals 33 war, does that mean the the projection for the team is 76 wins?
I thought replacement was like 52 wins. 43 sounds very low.
I think it’s about 47-48 which works out to be around 1000 WAR for the league. That makes them about an 80-81 win team, which seems a bit low. However, if you sprinkle in a few wins from their bench outside of the guys listed, they are likely more of a 83 win team – which seems right.
I use 45 wins (well, between 45 and 46, closer to 45). I don’t do win projections by adding up mean totals, I use a Monte Carlo simulation (with a covariance matrix for playing time) using the distribution of player outcomes. This is so that I can introduce some of the selection bias that exists – players that exceed their mean expectation are more likely to receive additional playing time at the expense of players that fall short. So you really can’t just add mean WARs when dealing with projections like looking at past ones.
ZiPS *is* a little grumpy here, putting the A’s a couple of games below .500, a few games below where I’d put them. They really do have a lot of guys with short resumes.
Thank you so much for that clarification. I shared pg’s reaction, and I had a similar reaction to the Giants ZiPS.
Still, as you say, that leaves the A’s (and Giants) pretty low. Since I root for the Bay Area teams only after the Rays, I hope you’re too conservative for these teams.
I suspect that Greg Maddux comp will have a long memory.
I was surprised to see that as well.
Obviously, ZiPS isn’t predicting his mean expectation to be Greg Maddux going forward, without looking, I’m pretty sure that all of the hundreds of others guys looked at by ZiPS are worse than Maddux (after all, I don’t remember seeing Clemens or Grove or Walter Johnson in there).
One thing to remember is that comps are comps for how the player has played over the last several years, not how their career totals overall compare or who their projected career totals compare to.
I don’t really understand it at all at any point. 3.0 WAR, something Maddux stopped to just 3 times in his career, none in the 90s. In fact he wasn’t below 5 in the 90s. Where the hell does that come from? Did it mean Mike Maddux?
I have two sort-of technical questions that I posted on the Giants thread this morning, but I figure I’ll shamelessly repost here since I doubt anyone’s looking at the Giants’ ZiPS comments at this point.
1. Dan, do you use event-specific park factors for ZiPS, or only when you input data into Diamond Mind’s event tables?
2. Let’s oversimplify and assume average error rates for all defenders. Let’s also assume that the difference between each fielding grade (PR –> FR –> AV –> VG –> EX) is about 9 defensive runs saved over the course of a season. Dan, you’ve acknowledged this in the Giants ZiPS comments and said you’ll have to be even more conservative about awarding EX (and presumably PR) grades, but the way things are now it seems like you’ll have to be more conservative with all grades, including FR and VG. And even then you’ll essentially be penalizing players who are “pretty good” defenders but not close enough to +9 runs saved to warrant the grade bump (or penalty). Anyway, I guess the question is – have you figured out yet how you’re going to handle all of this? Talk with Imagine Sports about algorithm-tweaking? Be more conservative but just with EX grades? Be more conservative with all non-AV grades?
I generally give have AV as roughly an 8-run band, so FR and VG probably are OK. Just need fewer of the extremes, until such time that DMB either reduces the extremes or adds more granularity to defensive ratings. I’d love if they went PO/FR/BA (Below Average)/AV/AA (Above Average)/VG/EX, though to be honest, I have zero belief that that kind of major change is going to be implemented at this stage in the program’s existence.
That actually isn’t so bad. If AV is from -4 to 4, and FR is from -5 to -13, and VG from 5 to 13, and EX anything over 13 and PO anything under -13, you’ve at least mostly accounted for the results from that study of defense in DMB and are keeping the extremes rare. Maybe the only EX-rated players under that system are guys like Simmons (SS), Gardner (LF), Gentry (CF), Ryan (SS), Trout (CF), maybe Lawrie (3B) and Bourjos (CF) – something like that, anyway.
I’m rambling. Thank you for the reply!
(I’m still curious about event-specific park factors!)
These are coming every Wed and Fri for a while, right? Is there a schedule of when we’ll see each team or will you keep us in suspense?
Is that Depth Chart conspicuously missing Jemile Weeks?
Unless Scott Sizemore craters, most A’s fans envision him as the 2B starter, with Adam Rosales/Andy Parrino/Eric Sogard as his backup
Oy Vey! No regular with a OBP higher than .338. They need to rehire fat Jonah Hill to right the ship
Sigh. Each player is given a projection that you may think of as an average or median. Some players will substantially exceed or fall short of their projections. This will result in players with wOBA over .338.
I get tired of making this kind of obvious comment, so I think I’ll take a hiatus from doing so.
I think nelson was just pointing out that the A’s don’t project to have any super-OBP guys, not insisting that no player will exceed .338
nelson: I think last season’s team was showing more power, less OBP than what you’d think of as A’s-style; so this is not surprising really.
I have nothing to say, other than I get a huge smile on my face every time I see or hear the words “AL West champion Oakland Athletics.”
It sounds so good. So happy for them to be back where they belong: as perpetual contenders. Hope they shore up that bullpen (Soriano too much to ask?) and maybe grab a guy like Capuano and then they will be really loaded.
One good season is not enough reason to label them as “perpetual contenders.” I think you need at least two or three for that.
I think he means historically the Athletics have been perpetual contenders.
A 4 ERA and 1 WAR from Anderson seems highly pessimistic.
That Cespedes line I can’t take seriously either.
…in 83 innings. If you think he’ll pitch twice that, he’s worth 2+ WAR, which is a league-average major league starting pitcher, which is exactly what the 98 ERA+ projects.
Yes, I know how it’s calculated. I’m mainly talking about the high ERA. His xFIP has been consistent his entire career, there’s no reason to expect a 4 ERA. He put up 1 WAR in 35 or so innings in 2012.
I really love ZiPS and the Oakland Athletics, but not in that order. Whatever happens in 2013, we’ll always have 2012.
This is unbelievably conservative with Cespedes.
Really? Keep in mind the dampened offensive environment, not to mention the player’s home stadium. He looks like a 4 WAR player to me with that batting line.
I think its perfectly reasonable to say Cedpedes with 625 PA will be a 5+ WAR player next season, as the most impressive part of his game were the adjustments he made at the plate.
Funnily enough the lack of adjustments he made switching from CF to LF were why his UZR was ugly. Don’t forget, he hadn’t played a day in LF when he had signed as a CF and was asked to learn the position on the fly. A full offseason under his belt and the sky really is the limit with him. No way does he go for 23 HR in 625 PA, I’d put him down for 35, his swing is so powerful and he’s the guy Konerko and most coaches said they would go watch in BP for a reason. He’s the real deal, and zips is saying he’s just going to be okay. Health-permitting, we will see these projections look foolish in 9 months or so.
Zips hates A’s players! I mean really by the nature of players that age, some will take a step forward, and some will take a step back. I know BA is going to be a 4+ WAR pitcher if healthy, just like I know Cespedes adjusted very well last season, and is a very good bet to hit 300/360/500+. I get it though the system is all based on past results so with all the first year type guys, and BB reclamation projects it’s inherent that a system like Zips will hate on you. I think at least 2 starters will top 200IP with sub 90 ERA-, and at least 3 of the position players will top 4 WAR, with my bets on a mix of Cespedes, Young, Carter, Reddick, Donaldson, Nakajima having ok shots at it. The system doesn’t seem very good at translating minor league data, since the only ML data is from one season on the front end of the development curve, and it seems fairly pessimistic about players sustaining steps forward in production. I would posit that until a players age 25-26 seasons, there past results have less weight to calculating there future performances, with further reductions in value the further you get from the present. It isn’t like anyone is regressing Trout’s projections based on him being taken in the back of the first round instead of #1. Players develop, and the process of bringing about that development in the minors creates a great deal of noise in any projection based off those results.
ZiPS takes all kinds of things, including aging curves and regression to the norm, into consideration.
“…with all first year type guys…a system like ZiPS will hate on you.” But given the absence of more data on past performance, what do you suggest a forecaster use to project their 2013 season?
You realize that there were only 19 position players in the AL last year that topped 4 WAR. The A’s had 1 (Reddick) and his WAR total was heavily inflated by defense.
Agree that 4 WAR players don’t grow on trees. Disagree that Reddick’s WAR was “inflated” by defense. Would you say Ozzie Smith’s career WAR was “inflated” by defense? Didn’t think so.
A few points to make:
1. Chris Carter: don’t be surprised if he regresses severely again. His early 2012 ISO was amazing but he declined *dramatically* as the year went on, completely losing his patience at the plate and playing next to no role in the postseason. Time is running out for the guy, which is too bad since he appears to have baseball abilities.
2. Cespedes: I think this is a good projection on the conservative side. Cespedes is good at adjusting at the plate – he finally learned how to hit curveballs roughly midway through 2012. But he was still streaky at times. He is also something of a bad ball hitter, and with more tape on him now, the better pitchers in the division will likely take advantage of that. Would be surprised if he hit above .300, but wouldn’t be surprised if he outperformed the projection here.
3. Reddick: what apparently isn’t factored yet into zips is mentality. Lol. Reddick is a bit if a head case who regressed when carrying expectations and pitchers realized he was a good hitter. Many moments of Reddick saying “I’ve just got to let Josh be Josh.” There are times when he seems either asleep or distracted at the plate, other times he’s locked in at near-elite levels. He’s become an excellent defender with a cannon for a throwing arm, but its *so* hard to know what to expect from this guy.
4. Colon: perhaps even stranger than having an all-rookie rotation is the A’s enthusiasm for a 40 year old barrel of pork that throws 90%+ fastballs. I don’t know what compelled Colon to use PEDs last year, whether it was an endurance, velocity or recovery issue. Maybe he just wanted big forearms. Maybe PED strength increases grip strength and puts a meaner spin and snap in those two-seamers. What I do know is that Colon was surprisingly effective last year, pounded the strike zone and actually stabilized the rotation before Parker and Milone concretely improved their performances. I wouldn’t be shocked if Colon managed a league average year. He’s actually a pretty good pitcher.
I think zips is justified in being skeptical. reddick, donaldson, moss, carter all way exceeded their career production last season. They’re young guys, so maybe they just got better, but zips is right to regress them heavily, I’d say.
I love ZiPS-and thanks, Dan, for continuing to publish these projections for free.
I really can’t stand this format, though. Will the ZiPS be on the projections page or player pages soon or do we have to wait until after all 30 teams are covered?
Someone’s anti-Brett Anderson.
ZIPS has always been hard on teams with very young rosters. I don’t think anyone would ber surprised to see a collective regression from the team, but that does not mean they should be discounted. Projections can, and often times are wrong– keep your heads up A’s fans, your team wil be fine.
Really? A 4.0 ERA for Brett Anderson and a 3.7 ERA for Parker? These are some terrible projections.