2020 ZiPS Projections: Los Angeles Dodgers
After having typically appeared in the hallowed pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have now been released at FanGraphs for eight years. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the Los Angeles Dodgers.
Batters
Looking at the hitting projections, it’s not hard to see why the Dodgers didn’t go all-out to sign Anthony Rendon. Rendon, of course, would be an upgrade for any team, but it’s difficult to see how the Dodgers would have gotten maximum benefit. Their worst projected position is right field, manned primarily by Alex Verdugo, and with his projected WAR of 2.0 in 476 plate appearances, even he falls into the above-average category. And it’s possible that WAR slightly underrates the Dodger lineup simply because positional versatility is one of those things that we foggily know is meaningful, though exactly how meaningful we don’t quite know.
ZiPS has been keen on Cody Bellinger for a while. Indeed, this is quite an aggressive win projection for a first baseman. Bellinger’s career home run projection has gone well past 500 at this point, and ZiPS is even baking in a mildish drop in league home run totals, which we don’t know will actually happen.
Gavin Lux’s long-term projection remains bananas and his presence gives the Dodgers a tremendous amount of flexibility in the trade market. The Dodgers could actually trade someone like Corey Seager without creating a giant crater in their lineup, assuming they had a partner with an extra starting pitcher who could make it worth it (Noah Syndergaard?).
The riskiest projection is Will Smith’s, whose emergence is still quite recent. Catchers tend to have odd, disappointing growth curves, so ZiPS is hedging its bets here. Even with significant regression, Smith projects as a significant plus for the team.
I am mildly amused that David Freese got his best projection in the years after retiring.
Pitchers
This is where the team has shed depth in the last few years, and they’ve needed that depth given how populated their injured list has been. Rich Hill and Hyun-Jin Ryu are unsigned, which leaves Los Angeles thinner than when you could literally fill a second rotation of major-league quality starters after their first one.
ZiPS gives Clayton Kershaw the slight edge in the projections, though this will be the last year for that unless their trajectories change. Rumors of Kershaw’s demise are premature — ZiPS still projects him with 26 WAR remaining in his left arm — but it’s undeniable at this point that he’s off his peak. You can see that in the comps, too, as his near-age comps have declined from the usual mix of pitchers like Sandy Koufax, Carl Hubbell, and Lefty Grove. Now, Koufax’s abrupt end to his career caused him to fall off the list, but the top end of Kershaw’s comp list has a lot more Hall of Very Good types, like John Tudor, Jerry Reuss, and David Wells. But hey, Walker Buehler landed the Tom Seaver comp, thus keeping the team in-line with the Hall of Fame comps in classic Mechanics.
The bullpen projects as solid, but unspectacular. ZiPS sees the team as having a very deep assortment of relief pitching, it’s just not in head-over-heels in love with many of them. Kenley Jansen’s struggles have pulled him out of the elite tier and Blake Treinen’s bounce back season is still in the To Be Determined category.
Prospects
The Dodgers always seem to have a ready stash of prospects who just happen to fit the team’s needs at the right time. Yasmani Grandal leaving and Russell Martin showing aging? Well, here’s Will Smith and Keibert Ruiz. Corey Seager only a couple years from free agency? Okay, let’s have Gavin Lux engage full beast mode in 2019. Pitching defections? Let’s just have Dustin May emerge as a top 10 prospect, and just three years from being signed from out in Fraggle Rock.
ZiPS thinks May could fit in the rotation right now, but the Dodgers will likely be conservative and continue to stretch out Julio Urías and take more looks at Ross Stripling. I’m still cautiously optimistic — from the POV of the Dodgers, of course — that Ryu ends up back with the team.
I thought ZiPS would ding Keibert Ruiz for a season of mixed results that ended early due to a broken finger. Ruiz’s .254/.329/.330 line at Double-A Tulsa as a repeater was unimpressive, but the fact remains he was still a catcher who couldn’t even legally drink until midseason. Just as ZiPS knows that young catchers develop and progress oddly, which has resulted in it knocking Will Smith down a peg, it also gives a lot of leeway to Ruiz. The day will come when the Dodgers have to choose between Ruiz and Smith, but it’s hard to have sympathy for a team struggling with having to figure out what to do with too many good young catchers.
If you’re looking for a few of those veteran minor league relievers who comes up to the majors and are perfectly average pitchers for a few years before being overpaid by the Rockies, Shea Spitzbarth is ZiPS’s favorite in the Dodgers’ system. With only average velocity to go with a loopy curve and a fosh-like changeup, Spitzbarth’s painful 25 innings in Triple-A probably kept him from getting serious Rule 5 consideration, but ZiPS sees something there and Steamer’s not all that far away from ZiPS. ZiPS isn’t buying Spitzbarth, but it is intrigued by another interesting minor league fringe player in Zach McKinstry, who hit .279/.352/.455 for Tulsa before a .382/.421/.753 Triple-A debut in 23 games. Couple that with the fact that McKinstry has played second, third, and shortstop extensively to go along with a few outfield appearances, and you have an interesting role player to watch.
One pedantic note for 2020: for the WAR graphic, I’m using FanGraphs’ depth charts playing time, not the playing time ZiPS spits out, so there will be occasional differences in WAR totals.

Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here.
| Player | B | Age | PO | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | CS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cody Bellinger | L | 24 | 1B | 641 | 547 | 108 | 160 | 32 | 4 | 40 | 120 | 88 | 126 | 16 | 4 |
| Max Muncy | L | 29 | 2B | 523 | 437 | 81 | 112 | 20 | 1 | 29 | 92 | 77 | 131 | 4 | 1 |
| Corey Seager | L | 26 | SS | 561 | 506 | 78 | 141 | 36 | 2 | 19 | 87 | 47 | 108 | 2 | 1 |
| Justin Turner | R | 35 | 3B | 490 | 428 | 64 | 122 | 25 | 1 | 19 | 66 | 44 | 74 | 3 | 1 |
| Gavin Lux | L | 22 | SS | 605 | 550 | 80 | 147 | 25 | 8 | 21 | 79 | 52 | 136 | 10 | 7 |
| Joc Pederson | L | 28 | LF | 468 | 409 | 70 | 102 | 23 | 2 | 27 | 75 | 49 | 104 | 2 | 3 |
| Will D. Smith | R | 25 | C | 445 | 389 | 60 | 91 | 18 | 1 | 24 | 77 | 45 | 121 | 3 | 0 |
| Chris Taylor | R | 29 | SS | 514 | 460 | 67 | 119 | 29 | 5 | 15 | 63 | 45 | 135 | 12 | 3 |
| Alex Verdugo | L | 24 | RF | 476 | 432 | 55 | 123 | 25 | 2 | 13 | 54 | 37 | 63 | 7 | 2 |
| Jedd Gyorko | R | 31 | 3B | 350 | 314 | 39 | 78 | 13 | 1 | 15 | 52 | 32 | 78 | 3 | 0 |
| A.J. Pollock | R | 32 | CF | 403 | 368 | 55 | 94 | 20 | 3 | 16 | 55 | 26 | 84 | 10 | 2 |
| Austin Barnes | R | 30 | C | 319 | 278 | 40 | 64 | 14 | 1 | 7 | 35 | 34 | 70 | 5 | 2 |
| Kiké Hernandez | R | 28 | 2B | 440 | 390 | 57 | 92 | 20 | 2 | 17 | 61 | 42 | 94 | 4 | 0 |
| Keibert Ruiz | B | 21 | C | 396 | 365 | 43 | 93 | 13 | 0 | 10 | 38 | 24 | 37 | 0 | 0 |
| Jon Kemmer | L | 29 | RF | 411 | 368 | 51 | 87 | 18 | 2 | 19 | 57 | 32 | 126 | 3 | 3 |
| David Freese | R | 37 | 3B | 210 | 187 | 29 | 51 | 9 | 1 | 7 | 35 | 20 | 50 | 0 | 0 |
| Tyler White | R | 29 | 1B | 436 | 386 | 48 | 95 | 21 | 1 | 15 | 60 | 42 | 95 | 1 | 1 |
| Matt Beaty | L | 27 | 1B | 434 | 402 | 50 | 106 | 26 | 1 | 10 | 58 | 25 | 61 | 4 | 1 |
| Russell Martin | R | 37 | C | 257 | 215 | 27 | 44 | 5 | 0 | 6 | 22 | 34 | 63 | 1 | 1 |
| Jeter Downs | R | 21 | SS | 549 | 496 | 64 | 109 | 25 | 3 | 19 | 67 | 42 | 141 | 19 | 10 |
| Edwin Rios | L | 26 | 3B | 488 | 448 | 59 | 103 | 22 | 2 | 22 | 74 | 30 | 175 | 1 | 2 |
| Kris Negron | R | 34 | 1B | 409 | 373 | 47 | 86 | 12 | 3 | 11 | 44 | 26 | 118 | 9 | 3 |
| Jacob Amaya | R | 21 | SS | 528 | 469 | 56 | 102 | 21 | 4 | 8 | 47 | 52 | 122 | 5 | 8 |
| Andrew Toles | R | 28 | LF | 248 | 234 | 29 | 59 | 14 | 1 | 6 | 30 | 11 | 54 | 5 | 3 |
| DJ Peters | R | 24 | CF | 550 | 487 | 63 | 95 | 18 | 3 | 22 | 67 | 46 | 223 | 2 | 2 |
| Zach McKinstry | L | 25 | 2B | 455 | 415 | 49 | 95 | 17 | 4 | 11 | 48 | 33 | 117 | 5 | 6 |
| Connor Joe | R | 27 | 1B | 434 | 378 | 50 | 85 | 19 | 2 | 11 | 47 | 47 | 104 | 1 | 3 |
| Jose Lobaton | B | 35 | C | 292 | 267 | 27 | 57 | 12 | 1 | 8 | 31 | 21 | 80 | 1 | 0 |
| Jake Peter | L | 27 | 2B | 400 | 357 | 41 | 75 | 14 | 2 | 8 | 37 | 36 | 119 | 4 | 2 |
| Kyle Garlick | R | 28 | RF | 385 | 358 | 46 | 81 | 20 | 2 | 18 | 57 | 21 | 132 | 1 | 0 |
| Connor Wong | R | 24 | C | 446 | 413 | 48 | 87 | 17 | 3 | 17 | 57 | 25 | 170 | 7 | 4 |
| Zach Reks | L | 26 | LF | 457 | 411 | 54 | 98 | 15 | 2 | 15 | 54 | 40 | 137 | 3 | 2 |
| Rocky Gale | R | 32 | C | 289 | 270 | 25 | 59 | 9 | 1 | 3 | 23 | 12 | 59 | 1 | 1 |
| Cameron Perkins | R | 29 | RF | 369 | 342 | 40 | 83 | 20 | 2 | 8 | 42 | 19 | 63 | 5 | 2 |
| Sam McWilliams | R | 22 | 2B | 304 | 273 | 34 | 54 | 12 | 1 | 9 | 33 | 25 | 106 | 8 | 1 |
| Chris Parmelee | L | 32 | 1B | 285 | 253 | 32 | 50 | 10 | 0 | 11 | 34 | 29 | 95 | 0 | 1 |
| Ezequiel Carrera | L | 33 | CF | 234 | 210 | 26 | 47 | 7 | 1 | 4 | 16 | 18 | 57 | 8 | 1 |
| Errol Robinson | R | 25 | SS | 419 | 385 | 41 | 84 | 14 | 2 | 6 | 32 | 30 | 110 | 11 | 6 |
| Jared Walker | L | 24 | 1B | 416 | 365 | 45 | 64 | 13 | 3 | 16 | 47 | 38 | 178 | 4 | 2 |
| Shane Peterson | L | 32 | RF | 358 | 334 | 36 | 74 | 17 | 3 | 9 | 42 | 19 | 105 | 4 | 0 |
| Drew Avans | L | 24 | LF | 414 | 379 | 43 | 83 | 12 | 4 | 10 | 39 | 28 | 123 | 18 | 9 |
| Cristian Santana | R | 23 | 3B | 512 | 494 | 50 | 114 | 20 | 1 | 16 | 61 | 11 | 138 | 0 | 1 |
| Cody Thomas | L | 25 | RF | 524 | 482 | 55 | 95 | 18 | 5 | 17 | 62 | 33 | 196 | 4 | 4 |
| Jeren Kendall | L | 24 | CF | 436 | 394 | 41 | 63 | 10 | 6 | 13 | 44 | 36 | 189 | 17 | 11 |
| Carlos Rincon | R | 22 | RF | 462 | 421 | 50 | 83 | 19 | 1 | 18 | 53 | 35 | 160 | 3 | 2 |
| Donovan Casey | R | 24 | RF | 485 | 452 | 53 | 93 | 15 | 4 | 15 | 54 | 28 | 179 | 11 | 3 |
| Alex Avila | L | 33 | C | 243 | 199 | 22 | 40 | 7 | 0 | 9 | 27 | 42 | 90 | 1 | 0 |
| Ryan Goins | L | 32 | 2B | 421 | 381 | 36 | 86 | 19 | 2 | 6 | 37 | 33 | 108 | 2 | 3 |
| Welington Castillo | R | 33 | C | 294 | 273 | 26 | 66 | 12 | 0 | 11 | 44 | 17 | 81 | 0 | 0 |
| Player | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS+ | ISO | BABIP | RC/27 | Def | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cody Bellinger | .293 | .392 | .585 | 157 | .293 | .315 | 8.9 | 6 | 6.2 | Frank Robinson |
| Max Muncy | .256 | .373 | .506 | 132 | .249 | .300 | 6.9 | -4 | 3.8 | Morgan Ensberg |
| Corey Seager | .279 | .342 | .470 | 115 | .192 | .322 | 6.0 | 4 | 3.7 | Davey Johnson |
| Justin Turner | .285 | .365 | .481 | 124 | .196 | .307 | 6.7 | 1 | 3.3 | Joe Torre |
| Gavin Lux | .267 | .331 | .456 | 108 | .189 | .321 | 5.5 | -2 | 2.9 | Alan Trammell |
| Joc Pederson | .249 | .340 | .513 | 124 | .264 | .270 | 6.2 | 2 | 2.6 | Tom Brunansky |
| Will D. Smith | .234 | .319 | .470 | 108 | .237 | .275 | 5.4 | 1 | 2.5 | Darrell Porter |
| Chris Taylor | .259 | .329 | .441 | 104 | .183 | .335 | 5.4 | -5 | 2.1 | Robby Thompson |
| Alex Verdugo | .285 | .341 | .442 | 108 | .157 | .309 | 5.8 | 4 | 2.0 | Curt Flood |
| Jedd Gyorko | .248 | .317 | .439 | 100 | .191 | .285 | 5.1 | 2 | 1.6 | Ed Spiezio |
| A.J. Pollock | .255 | .313 | .457 | 102 | .201 | .291 | 5.4 | -2 | 1.5 | Mike Devereaux |
| Austin Barnes | .230 | .326 | .363 | 85 | .133 | .284 | 4.2 | 2 | 1.1 | Erik Pappas |
| Kiké Hernandez | .236 | .312 | .428 | 96 | .192 | .269 | 4.8 | -4 | 1.1 | Steve Lombardozzi |
| Keibert Ruiz | .255 | .308 | .373 | 81 | .118 | .261 | 4.2 | 1 | 1.1 | Yadier Molina |
| Jon Kemmer | .236 | .311 | .451 | 101 | .215 | .305 | 4.9 | -1 | 0.9 | Brian Lesher |
| David Freese | .273 | .348 | .444 | 110 | .171 | .338 | 5.7 | -2 | 0.9 | Ken Caminiti |
| Tyler White | .246 | .323 | .422 | 98 | .176 | .290 | 4.9 | 0 | 0.8 | Larry Sutton |
| Matt Beaty | .264 | .313 | .408 | 91 | .144 | .290 | 4.7 | 2 | 0.6 | Dan Rohrmeier |
| Russell Martin | .205 | .331 | .312 | 74 | .107 | .260 | 3.5 | 0 | 0.5 | Chad Kreuter |
| Jeter Downs | .220 | .288 | .397 | 81 | .177 | .268 | 3.9 | -6 | 0.5 | Dick Schofield |
| Edwin Rios | .230 | .285 | .435 | 89 | .205 | .323 | 4.3 | -5 | 0.5 | Jim Presley |
| Kris Negron | .231 | .289 | .367 | 74 | .137 | .307 | 3.8 | 8 | 0.4 | Jalal Leach |
| Jacob Amaya | .217 | .298 | .330 | 68 | .113 | .277 | 3.2 | 2 | 0.4 | Ramon Vazquez |
| Andrew Toles | .252 | .290 | .397 | 82 | .145 | .305 | 4.1 | 3 | 0.3 | Rod Allen |
| DJ Peters | .195 | .282 | .380 | 75 | .185 | .302 | 3.5 | -3 | 0.2 | Brent Clevlen |
| Zach McKinstry | .229 | .293 | .369 | 76 | .140 | .293 | 3.6 | -2 | 0.1 | Travis Dawkins |
| Connor Joe | .225 | .316 | .373 | 84 | .148 | .281 | 4.0 | 0 | 0.1 | Ryan McGuire |
| Jose Lobaton | .213 | .274 | .356 | 67 | .142 | .274 | 3.4 | -1 | 0.1 | George Mitterwald |
| Jake Peter | .210 | .288 | .328 | 65 | .118 | .291 | 3.2 | 2 | 0.1 | Adam Morrissey |
| Kyle Garlick | .226 | .275 | .444 | 88 | .218 | .303 | 4.3 | -3 | 0.0 | Brian Brady |
| Connor Wong | .211 | .263 | .390 | 72 | .179 | .310 | 3.5 | -5 | 0.0 | Troy Afenir |
| Zach Reks | .238 | .311 | .394 | 87 | .156 | .320 | 4.3 | -6 | -0.1 | Dale Holman |
| Rocky Gale | .219 | .254 | .293 | 46 | .074 | .269 | 2.5 | 4 | -0.2 | Kirt Manwaring |
| Cameron Perkins | .243 | .291 | .383 | 78 | .140 | .277 | 4.0 | -1 | -0.2 | Virgil Chevalier |
| Sam McWilliams | .198 | .273 | .348 | 65 | .150 | .285 | 3.4 | -3 | -0.3 | Ryan Owens |
| Chris Parmelee | .198 | .281 | .368 | 72 | .170 | .265 | 3.4 | 1 | -0.3 | Steve Yeager |
| Ezequiel Carrera | .224 | .290 | .324 | 64 | .100 | .289 | 3.6 | -4 | -0.4 | Greg Tubbs |
| Errol Robinson | .218 | .277 | .312 | 58 | .094 | .290 | 3.0 | -3 | -0.6 | Willie Lozado |
| Jared Walker | .175 | .272 | .359 | 67 | .184 | .281 | 3.2 | 0 | -0.7 | Jim Orsag |
| Shane Peterson | .222 | .266 | .371 | 68 | .150 | .295 | 3.6 | -3 | -0.8 | Todd Dunwoody |
| Drew Avans | .219 | .274 | .351 | 66 | .132 | .297 | 3.3 | -1 | -0.8 | Gary Cathcart |
| Cristian Santana | .231 | .250 | .372 | 64 | .142 | .288 | 3.2 | -3 | -0.8 | Juan Salas |
| Cody Thomas | .197 | .256 | .361 | 63 | .164 | .290 | 3.0 | 3 | -0.9 | Jamar Hill |
| Jeren Kendall | .160 | .232 | .315 | 45 | .155 | .260 | 2.2 | 4 | -1.1 | Mike Rosamond |
| Carlos Rincon | .197 | .266 | .375 | 69 | .178 | .267 | 3.3 | -5 | -1.1 | Chad Roper |
| Donovan Casey | .206 | .254 | .356 | 61 | .150 | .302 | 3.2 | -1 | -1.2 | Wilkin Ramirez |
| Alex Avila | .201 | .342 | .372 | 92 | .171 | .310 | 4.3 | 4 | 1.2 | Wes Westrum |
| Ryan Goins | .226 | .287 | .333 | 69 | .108 | .300 | 3.2 | -1 | -0.3 | Rodney Nye |
| Welington Castillo | .242 | .289 | .407 | 77 | .165 | .304 | 4.2 | -3 | 0.1 | Keith McDonald |
| Player | T | Age | W | L | ERA | G | GS | IP | H | ER | HR | BB | SO |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Clayton Kershaw | L | 32 | 12 | 7 | 3.24 | 27 | 27 | 166.7 | 142 | 60 | 24 | 31 | 176 |
| Walker Buehler | R | 25 | 11 | 6 | 3.27 | 29 | 29 | 167.7 | 138 | 61 | 22 | 41 | 201 |
| Hyun-Jin Ryu | L | 33 | 10 | 6 | 3.48 | 25 | 24 | 144.7 | 140 | 56 | 21 | 24 | 133 |
| Kenta Maeda | R | 32 | 10 | 8 | 3.91 | 34 | 24 | 138.0 | 120 | 60 | 19 | 45 | 155 |
| Dustin May | R | 22 | 9 | 7 | 4.08 | 33 | 25 | 141.3 | 139 | 64 | 20 | 36 | 129 |
| Rich Hill | L | 40 | 7 | 4 | 3.59 | 18 | 18 | 87.7 | 73 | 35 | 13 | 28 | 103 |
| Ross Stripling | R | 30 | 6 | 4 | 3.87 | 32 | 15 | 93.0 | 90 | 40 | 14 | 22 | 93 |
| Kenley Jansen | R | 32 | 4 | 2 | 3.15 | 60 | 0 | 60.0 | 47 | 21 | 9 | 15 | 78 |
| Julio Urias | L | 23 | 4 | 3 | 3.92 | 39 | 10 | 80.3 | 71 | 35 | 12 | 31 | 91 |
| Blake Treinen | R | 32 | 6 | 4 | 3.41 | 59 | 0 | 63.3 | 55 | 24 | 5 | 26 | 65 |
| Caleb Ferguson | L | 23 | 4 | 2 | 3.64 | 54 | 5 | 71.7 | 59 | 29 | 9 | 33 | 91 |
| Mitchell White | R | 25 | 6 | 5 | 4.53 | 23 | 21 | 95.3 | 94 | 48 | 14 | 36 | 92 |
| Victor Gonzalez | L | 24 | 4 | 4 | 4.33 | 39 | 14 | 89.3 | 89 | 43 | 11 | 37 | 77 |
| Adam Kolarek | L | 31 | 5 | 3 | 3.34 | 67 | 0 | 56.7 | 54 | 21 | 3 | 18 | 42 |
| Joe Kelly | R | 32 | 4 | 3 | 3.44 | 56 | 0 | 52.3 | 44 | 20 | 4 | 25 | 58 |
| JT Chargois | R | 29 | 3 | 2 | 3.55 | 49 | 0 | 50.7 | 44 | 20 | 5 | 22 | 56 |
| Josiah Gray | R | 22 | 6 | 7 | 4.94 | 27 | 26 | 122.0 | 123 | 67 | 22 | 35 | 101 |
| Dennis Santana | R | 24 | 6 | 7 | 4.86 | 28 | 17 | 100.0 | 96 | 54 | 17 | 49 | 106 |
| Pedro Baez | R | 32 | 5 | 3 | 3.88 | 65 | 0 | 60.3 | 51 | 26 | 9 | 23 | 66 |
| Tony Gonsolin | R | 26 | 6 | 6 | 4.91 | 25 | 22 | 95.3 | 94 | 52 | 18 | 42 | 92 |
| Shea Spitzbarth | R | 25 | 4 | 3 | 3.93 | 51 | 0 | 68.7 | 60 | 30 | 10 | 29 | 80 |
| Scott Alexander | L | 30 | 3 | 2 | 3.83 | 54 | 0 | 51.7 | 50 | 22 | 4 | 21 | 40 |
| Leo Crawford | L | 23 | 5 | 6 | 5.05 | 25 | 25 | 123.0 | 125 | 69 | 23 | 43 | 102 |
| Josh Sborz | R | 26 | 4 | 3 | 3.96 | 56 | 0 | 61.3 | 55 | 27 | 9 | 23 | 68 |
| Joe Broussard | R | 29 | 3 | 2 | 4.18 | 41 | 2 | 51.7 | 50 | 24 | 7 | 19 | 49 |
| Kevin Quackenbush | R | 31 | 4 | 3 | 4.08 | 52 | 0 | 57.3 | 52 | 26 | 9 | 17 | 67 |
| Rob Zastryzny | L | 28 | 5 | 6 | 5.06 | 24 | 16 | 99.7 | 106 | 56 | 18 | 39 | 84 |
| Marshall Kasowski | R | 25 | 3 | 3 | 4.23 | 35 | 1 | 38.3 | 28 | 18 | 4 | 31 | 57 |
| Dylan Floro | R | 29 | 4 | 4 | 4.21 | 53 | 0 | 57.7 | 59 | 27 | 7 | 18 | 46 |
| Logan Bawcom | R | 31 | 4 | 5 | 5.10 | 20 | 12 | 72.3 | 77 | 41 | 14 | 27 | 58 |
| Yimi Garcia | R | 29 | 2 | 2 | 4.24 | 56 | 0 | 51.0 | 49 | 24 | 10 | 10 | 53 |
| Casey Sadler | R | 29 | 2 | 2 | 4.24 | 34 | 0 | 40.3 | 41 | 19 | 7 | 12 | 29 |
| Edward Paredes | L | 33 | 3 | 2 | 4.32 | 34 | 0 | 33.3 | 31 | 16 | 4 | 16 | 35 |
| Edwin Uceta | R | 22 | 6 | 7 | 5.29 | 26 | 25 | 115.7 | 120 | 68 | 23 | 54 | 111 |
| Parker Curry | R | 26 | 5 | 5 | 5.16 | 28 | 12 | 89.0 | 96 | 51 | 18 | 30 | 76 |
| Austin Hamilton | L | 26 | 5 | 6 | 5.14 | 22 | 8 | 68.3 | 75 | 39 | 11 | 28 | 49 |
| Russell Martin | R | 37 | 0 | 0 | 6.00 | 4 | 0 | 3.0 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 2 |
| Ryan Moseley | R | 25 | 4 | 4 | 4.66 | 47 | 2 | 73.3 | 71 | 38 | 5 | 53 | 60 |
| Logan Salow | L | 25 | 3 | 3 | 4.76 | 43 | 2 | 56.7 | 49 | 30 | 7 | 43 | 66 |
| Yadier Alvarez | R | 24 | 1 | 2 | 5.53 | 16 | 9 | 40.7 | 36 | 25 | 6 | 35 | 48 |
| Nolan Long | R | 26 | 3 | 3 | 4.77 | 44 | 1 | 60.3 | 53 | 32 | 8 | 43 | 69 |
| Jaime Schultz | R | 29 | 3 | 3 | 5.10 | 45 | 6 | 65.3 | 60 | 37 | 12 | 39 | 76 |
| Layne Somsen | R | 31 | 2 | 2 | 4.99 | 23 | 0 | 30.7 | 30 | 17 | 4 | 20 | 29 |
| Daniel Corcino | R | 29 | 6 | 7 | 5.49 | 24 | 18 | 100.0 | 104 | 61 | 20 | 50 | 89 |
| Tyler Thornburg | R | 31 | 1 | 2 | 5.70 | 41 | 1 | 42.7 | 42 | 27 | 10 | 23 | 45 |
| Michael Boyle | L | 26 | 3 | 4 | 5.83 | 35 | 6 | 63.3 | 69 | 41 | 13 | 35 | 54 |
| Chris Nunn | L | 29 | 2 | 2 | 5.98 | 35 | 0 | 46.7 | 47 | 31 | 10 | 31 | 50 |
| Jordan Sheffield | R | 25 | 3 | 6 | 6.44 | 40 | 8 | 58.7 | 59 | 42 | 13 | 53 | 64 |
| Justin De Fratus | R | 32 | 7 | 11 | 6.09 | 22 | 19 | 115.3 | 140 | 78 | 28 | 32 | 70 |
| Yordy Cabrera | R | 29 | 2 | 3 | 6.48 | 34 | 4 | 58.3 | 66 | 42 | 12 | 36 | 43 |
| Stetson Allie | R | 29 | 1 | 2 | 7.28 | 41 | 0 | 38.3 | 39 | 31 | 10 | 38 | 44 |
| J.D. Martin | R | 37 | 6 | 9 | 6.47 | 21 | 21 | 112.7 | 132 | 81 | 23 | 69 | 70 |
| Player | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | BB% | K% | BABIP | ERA+ | ERA- | FIP | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Clayton Kershaw | 9.5 | 1.7 | 1.3 | 4.7% | 26.5% | .274 | 128 | 78 | 3.50 | 3.7 | John Tudor |
| Walker Buehler | 10.8 | 2.2 | 1.2 | 6.0% | 29.6% | .284 | 127 | 79 | 3.22 | 3.7 | Tom Seaver |
| Hyun-Jin Ryu | 8.3 | 1.5 | 1.3 | 4.1% | 22.5% | .290 | 119 | 84 | 3.73 | 2.9 | Tommy John |
| Kenta Maeda | 10.1 | 2.9 | 1.2 | 7.8% | 27.0% | .288 | 106 | 94 | 3.70 | 2.1 | Mike Bielecki |
| Dustin May | 8.2 | 2.3 | 1.3 | 6.0% | 21.6% | .295 | 102 | 98 | 3.96 | 1.8 | Milt Pappas |
| Rich Hill | 10.6 | 2.9 | 1.3 | 7.7% | 28.2% | .279 | 116 | 87 | 3.72 | 1.6 | Al Leiter |
| Ross Stripling | 9.0 | 2.1 | 1.4 | 5.7% | 24.1% | .297 | 107 | 93 | 3.85 | 1.3 | Elmer Dessens |
| Kenley Jansen | 11.7 | 2.3 | 1.4 | 6.2% | 32.4% | .277 | 132 | 76 | 3.28 | 1.0 | Trevor Hoffman |
| Julio Urias | 10.2 | 3.5 | 1.3 | 9.1% | 26.6% | .289 | 106 | 94 | 4.01 | 1.0 | Tug McGraw |
| Blake Treinen | 9.2 | 3.7 | 0.7 | 9.7% | 24.2% | .292 | 122 | 82 | 3.39 | 0.9 | Roger McDowell |
| Caleb Ferguson | 11.4 | 4.1 | 1.1 | 10.7% | 29.4% | .294 | 114 | 88 | 3.65 | 0.8 | Billy McCool |
| Mitchell White | 8.7 | 3.4 | 1.3 | 8.7% | 22.2% | .300 | 92 | 109 | 4.29 | 0.8 | Tim Leary |
| Victor Gonzalez | 7.8 | 3.7 | 1.1 | 9.4% | 19.6% | .297 | 96 | 104 | 4.30 | 0.8 | Ken Heintzelman |
| Adam Kolarek | 6.7 | 2.9 | 0.5 | 7.4% | 17.4% | .291 | 125 | 80 | 3.34 | 0.7 | Pablo Torrealba |
| Joe Kelly | 10.0 | 4.3 | 0.7 | 11.1% | 25.7% | .294 | 121 | 83 | 3.39 | 0.6 | Dennis Higgins |
| JT Chargois | 9.9 | 3.9 | 0.9 | 10.1% | 25.7% | .295 | 117 | 86 | 3.56 | 0.5 | Tippy Martinez |
| Josiah Gray | 7.5 | 2.6 | 1.6 | 6.7% | 19.4% | .283 | 84 | 119 | 4.73 | 0.5 | Brad Radke |
| Dennis Santana | 9.5 | 4.4 | 1.5 | 11.0% | 23.9% | .297 | 85 | 117 | 4.74 | 0.4 | Mike Lumley |
| Pedro Baez | 9.8 | 3.4 | 1.3 | 9.1% | 26.1% | .275 | 107 | 93 | 4.08 | 0.4 | Donne Wall |
| Tony Gonsolin | 8.7 | 4.0 | 1.7 | 10.0% | 21.9% | .289 | 85 | 118 | 5.03 | 0.4 | Earl Wilson |
| Shea Spitzbarth | 10.5 | 3.8 | 1.3 | 9.9% | 27.2% | .291 | 106 | 95 | 4.01 | 0.4 | Blaine Neal |
| Scott Alexander | 7.0 | 3.7 | 0.7 | 9.4% | 17.9% | .293 | 108 | 92 | 3.86 | 0.4 | Harry Perkowski |
| Leo Crawford | 7.5 | 3.1 | 1.7 | 8.1% | 19.1% | .283 | 82 | 122 | 5.00 | 0.4 | Aaron Laffey |
| Josh Sborz | 10.0 | 3.4 | 1.3 | 8.8% | 26.1% | .291 | 105 | 95 | 4.00 | 0.3 | Steve Hoeme |
| Joe Broussard | 8.5 | 3.3 | 1.2 | 8.6% | 22.1% | .297 | 99 | 101 | 4.15 | 0.3 | Mark Lee |
| Kevin Quackenbush | 10.5 | 2.7 | 1.4 | 7.1% | 28.0% | .299 | 102 | 98 | 3.77 | 0.2 | Matt Whiteside |
| Rob Zastryzny | 7.6 | 3.5 | 1.6 | 8.8% | 19.0% | .297 | 82 | 122 | 5.02 | 0.2 | Jeff Musselman |
| Marshall Kasowski | 13.4 | 7.3 | 0.9 | 17.8% | 32.8% | .300 | 98 | 102 | 3.99 | 0.1 | Charlie Hough |
| Dylan Floro | 7.2 | 2.8 | 1.1 | 7.3% | 18.5% | .297 | 99 | 101 | 4.10 | 0.1 | John Boozer |
| Logan Bawcom | 7.2 | 3.4 | 1.7 | 8.4% | 18.1% | .290 | 81 | 123 | 5.21 | 0.1 | Howie Reed |
| Yimi Garcia | 9.4 | 1.8 | 1.8 | 4.7% | 24.9% | .287 | 98 | 102 | 4.24 | 0.1 | Lance Carter |
| Casey Sadler | 6.5 | 2.7 | 1.6 | 6.9% | 16.6% | .276 | 98 | 102 | 4.89 | 0.1 | Dan Quisenberry |
| Edward Paredes | 9.5 | 4.3 | 1.1 | 10.9% | 23.8% | .300 | 96 | 104 | 4.08 | 0.0 | Marshall Bridges |
| Edwin Uceta | 8.6 | 4.2 | 1.8 | 10.4% | 21.3% | .298 | 78 | 127 | 5.25 | 0.0 | Jeff Fulchino |
| Parker Curry | 7.7 | 3.0 | 1.8 | 7.7% | 19.4% | .297 | 81 | 124 | 5.11 | 0.0 | Darrell Coulter |
| Austin Hamilton | 6.5 | 3.7 | 1.4 | 9.1% | 16.0% | .298 | 81 | 124 | 5.07 | 0.0 | Wade Blasingame |
| Russell Martin | 6.0 | 0.0 | 3.0 | 0.0% | 15.4% | .300 | 69 | 144 | 6.18 | 0.0 | Tiny Bonham |
| Ryan Moseley | 7.4 | 6.5 | 0.6 | 15.4% | 17.4% | .299 | 89 | 112 | 4.60 | -0.1 | Rich Gossage |
| Logan Salow | 10.5 | 6.8 | 1.1 | 16.5% | 25.3% | .296 | 87 | 115 | 4.73 | -0.1 | Scott Wiggins |
| Yadier Alvarez | 10.6 | 7.7 | 1.3 | 18.2% | 25.0% | .297 | 75 | 133 | 5.32 | -0.2 | Mike Thompson |
| Nolan Long | 10.3 | 6.4 | 1.2 | 15.5% | 24.9% | .294 | 87 | 115 | 4.75 | -0.2 | Clay Bryant |
| Jaime Schultz | 10.5 | 5.4 | 1.7 | 13.2% | 25.8% | .293 | 81 | 123 | 5.03 | -0.2 | Jake Robbins |
| Layne Somsen | 8.5 | 5.9 | 1.2 | 14.1% | 20.4% | .299 | 83 | 120 | 4.94 | -0.2 | Ted Abernathy |
| Daniel Corcino | 8.0 | 4.5 | 1.8 | 11.1% | 19.7% | .292 | 76 | 132 | 5.50 | -0.3 | Landon Jacobsen |
| Tyler Thornburg | 9.5 | 4.9 | 2.1 | 12.0% | 23.4% | .286 | 73 | 137 | 5.73 | -0.5 | Dick Selma |
| Michael Boyle | 7.7 | 5.0 | 1.8 | 11.9% | 18.4% | .299 | 71 | 140 | 5.80 | -0.7 | Doug Slaten |
| Chris Nunn | 9.6 | 6.0 | 1.9 | 14.2% | 22.9% | .298 | 69 | 144 | 5.82 | -0.8 | Scott Forster |
| Jordan Sheffield | 9.8 | 8.1 | 2.0 | 18.4% | 22.2% | .299 | 64 | 155 | 6.59 | -1.0 | Darin Moore |
| Justin De Fratus | 5.5 | 2.5 | 2.2 | 6.2% | 13.6% | .296 | 68 | 147 | 5.95 | -1.0 | Allen Davis |
| Yordy Cabrera | 6.6 | 5.6 | 1.9 | 13.0% | 15.5% | .297 | 64 | 156 | 6.23 | -1.1 | Marty McLeary |
| Stetson Allie | 10.3 | 8.9 | 2.3 | 19.7% | 22.8% | .296 | 57 | 175 | 7.25 | -1.3 | James Warden |
| J.D. Martin | 5.6 | 5.5 | 1.8 | 12.9% | 13.1% | .296 | 64 | 156 | 6.43 | -1.4 | Ed Riley |
Players are listed with their most recent teams wherever possible. This includes players that are unsigned, players who will miss 2020 due to injury, and players who were released in 2019. So yes, if you see Joe Schmoe, who quit baseball back in June to form a ska-cowpunk Luxembourgian bubblegum pop-death metal band, he’s still listed here intentionally.
Both hitters and pitchers are ranked by projected zWAR — which is to say, WAR values as calculated by me, Dan Szymborski, whose surname is spelled with a z. WAR values might differ slightly from those which appear in the full release of ZiPS. Finally, I will advise anyone against — and might karate chop anyone guilty of — merely adding up WAR totals on a depth chart to produce projected team WAR.
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
Thank you Dan, very cool!
17.5% of Bellinger’s innings on the field came as a 1B last season. Shouldn’t he be projected where he played the most, as an RF? 69.5% of his time was spent there in ’19 (the rest was in CF), and he has more innings as an outfielder (1955.2) than a 1B (1764) for his career.
I’m probably taking this too literally, I know you’re trying to make all of the puzzle pieces fit.
Well the Frank Robinson comp would make more sense in RF
Any chance of seeing what Cody Bellingers D would be in the OF? Is it + or -? I would guess a +2
only 80 innings for Urias who is slated to be in the rotation? even with the Dodgers typical gaming of the DL system, he should be 120-150 innings
Depth charts doesn’t currently expect Urias to start that much, but I agree that’s the team’s plan for him.
and May is not going to pitch that much, they should have their innings swapped
May isnt returning from injury and has pitched full seasons the last couple years, I dont think he’s going to be super innings coddled.
May has reached 130 innings pitched each of his 3 full minor league seasons.
There’s no reason he won’t reach the 150-160 innings that are the max the Dodgers let a starter throw in a regular season if he is effective. There will be no meaningful innings management for him.
You wonder with the new IL rules to stop the games the Dodgers were playing if that 150-160 innings limit will be much higher. Everyone focuses on the 3 man limit, but the IL rules going back to 15 days(along with options going back to 15 days) are going to have a far greater impact IMO.
It won’t. They played them before those rules, too, and they have enough guys to play them even with longer durations.
It might make it harder if REAL injuries pop up, the way it did in 2016. But they have the resources to make do (like they did in 2016).
I think those will for the Dodgers have a far greater impact with the bullpen btw….
Urias is only projected for 10 starts, which explains the low innings total. I think his role along with Dustin May’s and Kenta Maeda’s will be very fluid this year once again (and likely impossible to predict with any degree of certainty).
People keep talking about how the Dodgers need to choose between Ruiz and Smith and I think it’s wrong. The 2017/2018 Dodgers were intentionally built around two catchers who had the potential to be very good. In 2017, Yasmani Grandal was not his usual self in the 2nd half due to some injuries and major family concerns (his wife had a very high-risk pregnancy and he was flying back to LA to see her between cities on road trips and not sleeping). Austin Barnes stepped up. In 2018, it was the opposite: Barnes didn’t step up, but Grandal did. In both of those seasons, Dodgers Catcher wasn’t just one of the best positions on the team, it was one of the most valuable positions on any team in baseball (especially 2017, where Dodgers C had more total WAR than Angels CF in some systems).
Catchers already get the least PAs of any position due to off-days and are the most likely position on the diamond to be ‘playing through’ injury. I can’t imagine a better scenario for a baseball team than to have two above-average catchers and split the 700-750 PAs between them however their health and performance dictates. Even if both succeed as prospects, a team with this few needs probably gains more wins and more protection against setbacks by simply keeping both players and not giving them ‘enough’ PAs. There is no way to replace adequate catcher offense after an in-season injury: there aren’t even 15 catchers in MLB who can perform at a league-average level, much less 30. Having 2 of them on your roster is incredibly valuable protection against disasters.
Especially when both are also highly regarded framers. The team is so deep and the roster so stacked that even adding a player like Lindor or Rendon barely moves the needle; you have redundancy all over the infield. Keeping both catchers is the only way to have redundancy at the most injured position in baseball. There are probably not that many teams where this fact is true: most of them would get more benefit from trading the 2nd potential 4 win catcher for an equivalent position player at a position of need, but the Dodgers don’t have those. They have redundancy after redundancy at every position except catcher. They should just trot them both out there and be happy if they get 8 war from the position because both are healthy and good.
Cody Bellinger isn’t a first baseman anymore and he should be projected as an outfielder; it’ll change his WAR projections due to positional adjustments and potentially change his comps, as well. He won a gold glove in RF and played above-average defense in CF 2 seasons in a row: he’s never going to be more than a part-time 1st baseman when Max Muncy is also on the roster.
I would be interested if his comps changed if he was simmed at a different position.
Agreed, there’s no need to choose between Ruiz and Smith, a lot can change over a few seasons, and Smith can play on the dirt. Folks were disappointed by Keibert’s season, posting a .679 OPS at AA and AAA. At the same age, Smith posted a .664 OPS in the ACC.
We’ve been spoiled by Trout, Harper, Machado, Soto, Acuna, Tatis, etc. Those are rare situations, it’ll typically take longer for a dude to develop.
Repeating a level and being worse is never great, but he still did what he did at AA the season before, and was playing through injury.
Ruiz is special: a switch-hitting Willians Astudillo that doesn’t suck ass. Check out his career K rates.
Ruiz is what all the Astudillo-stans wanted Willians to be when he grew up.
And mostly all home-grown. Pollock/Hill/Kelly the only FA’s, Maeda and Ryu the foreign imports, and Taylor/Muncy/Turner/Gyorko — the cheap and rehabilitated castoffs. Now, they are running a $200M payroll, so they’ve been able to extend Kershaw, Jansen, and Turner. But this team wasn’t built on a wild FA spending spree in which all the FA’s just happened to work out great.
As a fan of another team, I’m just glad that with the graduation of Lux, May, Smith, and Ruiz, their amazing talent pipeline is going to take a break for a year or two.
I’ll always find it amusing that teams succeeding in developing prospects and graduating them to the big league club drops them in all the prospect rankings.
Prospect rankings are just that – PROSPECT rankings. They’re not rankings of -player development ability-. They’re there to tell you what is on the way that isn’t yet on the MLB roster: how much will this group get reinforced in the future?
No one attempts to rank teams by how good they are at developing talent, but it seems clear that certain teams are much better than others at certain things (Yankees pitching and Dodgers’ power hitting are particularly notable, you see Eric talk about how the Dodgers appear to be able to teach almost anyone to hit 20 HR, and very specific elements of swings that they appear to teach systemically. He’s made posts about it in the past).
Yeah, I get all of that. Sometimes this site it so weird in how seriously people take things, especially throw-away comments. It was just an observation about the ranking systems and the binary distinctions made in them. And maybe to some degree, the nature of hope and the unknown.
And to think they almost traded Lux for Felipe Vazquez… Lucky them.
They never almost did that.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/story/2019-08-14/felipe-vazquez-closer-dodgers-missed-pirates-gavin-lux-angels
From the article: “The Dodgers refused to include middle infielder Gavin Lux, their top-ranked prospect, in a deal for Vazquez.”
I wasn’t saying they planned on it, I was pointing out it could’ve possibly happened
{billy beane calls up the rays, asks them to give him wander franco for chad pinder. the rays hang up without even saying anything}
this guy: “and to think the rays almost traded wander franco for chad pinder”
That’s a bit like saying I almost went on a date with supermodels after I waited for them in the alley next to their dressing rooms with binoculars! Yeah, it could’ve possibly happened, but we totally know it didn’t.
Lux as Alan Trammell in Year One? Yeah, that’ll play.
i like how their top hitters comp to a lot of pretty good managers, too
As a Padres fan this post does not give me great joy
oh no ryu with the dreaded tommy john comp
these millennials probably see a tommy john baseball card and are like “lol why is this guy named after a surgery wtf”
Was this funny in your head? Because it’s not funny here.
hey, at least i’m not the wander javier guy
how in the hell does ZIPS project 26 more war for Kershaw, yet only 3.7 this year? 26/3.7= 7 more years. Does ANYONE really think he pitches 7 more years? With all 7 at 3.7 level?
Should read 23 :-/. But ZiPS has no knowledge of how long Kershaw wants to pitch.
But even with 23 it’s 6.22 seasons at 3.7 level. Between regression and even lower durability than we’ve seen already, doesn’t exactly seem realistic in the least. Considering his WAR last year was 3.4 especially.
Kershaw would still be retiring before 40 in 7 more years; pitchers of his echelon often pitch into their 40s in some capacity
Maybe he won’t want to, but zips doesn’t care.
do you really think he’s going to be one of those hanger on ers? seriously… To get 23 WAR at the 3.7 pace- he’d have to throw for over 1000 more innings.
and the 3.7 pace would be an uptick over last 2 seasons where he’s had a 3.3 and 3.4 WAR….. he might get 7 more seasons- maybe- but with 23 WAR?
Both seem rather ambitious.
Most guys as good as Kershaw do because they either love baseball or are milestone chasing.
So yeah, its possible. I don’t know if its LIKELY, but its possible. Kershaw turns 32 next season and has 169 career wins. If the Dodgers continue to be as good as it seems like they will in perpetuity, Kershaw still has the potential to be the last 300 game winner ever if he pitches into his 40s at a reasonable level.
I dont know if the odds favor that proposition anymore, but it’s definitely possible: 13 wins a season on average until he’s 41 would get him there, and winning more than 13 in the near future is reasonably possible given how good the Dodgers will be over the next few years, at least.
Do you think Clayton Kershaw would just retire at 39 with 275 career wins? He’s gonna at least think about it.
I think odds are better that he retires at the end of this current deal than it is he pitches into his 40’s.
The bigger problem is physical. Do you think he’s going to be able to continue to even make 25-28 starts every year here? I don’t think that’s remotely close to a guarantee. He’s not made more than 28 starts in 4 years.
I don’t think the healthiest pitcher in the world would make more than 28 starts for the Los Angeles Dodgers, my friend. They build pitcher’s seasons around the expectation of playing all the way to the world series. Guys get skipped or held back a day or whatnot all the time with the intention of preserving them through the end of November.
Peak Clayton Kershaw wouldn’t make 35 starts for this team anymore; they specifically blame letting him throw 210+ innings in those seasons for his reduced effectiveness in the playoffs afterwards. They view it as a mistake that brought his decline phase on sooner than it otherwise could have.
It will be rare that any Dodgers starter does more than qualify for the ERA title, no matter how good he is.
It is not their way.
Walker Buehler’s 30 starts/182 innings last year is likely pretty close to the upper bound of what they will ever permit for any pitcher going forward. He was intentionally skipped despite being healthy several times.
I believe they view 200-210 innings as the maximum total a modern pitcher can throw in an effective season, and that a postseason demands 20 or 30 of them.
I think it would take a combination of major injury problems and a tight divisional race to cause them to deviate, as even half of that scenario (2017) was not enough to get them to do so.
Rules changes might be problematic for other teams, but the Dodgers running around with so much viable talent are unlikely to be dissuaded.
It may actaully emphasize their pitching depth advantage MORE than it used to, because it will prevent teams from playing the DL games with 6 or 7 starters, but the Dodgers can still find ways to play them with 9 or 10.
I dunno- the Dodgers took it to another level come 2017 when the 10 day rule took effect….
And with Kershaw- the only reason he’s not made more than 28 starts last 4 years were all of his various trips to the IL(none gimmicky).
None gimmicky, and none major (or at least not since 2016). Buehler had zero injuries last year and only made 30 starts. There’s an upward bound on what they will permit. For that matter, if Buehler gets better and starts to pitch deeper into games like Kershaw does, he’ll probably have starts shaved off.
If you follow the team and read the kinds of things they talk about it’s quite clear that innings management is a goal. They talked about it A LOT after 2016.
And they’ll keep doing it as long as they have depth. Remember, they’re adding a roster spot next year. That will help make it easier to do this. This is a team with extremely flexible position players. They’ll put one of those guys in the 26th slot in order to use the roster spot for pitching.
I imagine we’ll see them do more of what they did a few times this year already and carry a starter who they don’t have a spot for and instead have them throw from the bullpen once or twice on what would be throw days to make up for their using up the roster spot active.
If you are a fan of the team, you don’t understand how they operate very well.
The team to beat in the NL, unfortunately for the rest of the league. So deep and talented!
kind of curious for a guy like a Kolarek how is ZIPS handling the new 3 batter rule? 16 of his 26 Dodgers appearances were to 1 batter, and another 4 were to 2 batters.
Frank Robinson and Tom Seaver!
I’m worried about the rotation this year. I feel like the dreams are built on sand if this all they roll with. Sure the offense can tip the scales in their favor, but come playoff time, it could all slip through their hands.
I think it’s overblown. Ryu wasn’t expected to be as good as he was, and you never expected that many innings from Hill. May will contribute quite a bit, and Gonsolin has the potential to at least be another Stripling, and Mitch White is coming as well, plus Josiah Gray behind.
It isn’t really that different than what you expected last year.
The fact is though that Ryu did contribute 180 innings of 2.32 ERA ball. Him being gone and not replaced is going to leave a pretty big void. Add to that 60 innings from Rich Hill of 2.45 ERA ball- and that’s a lot of really good innings to be replaced. The only other regular starter who posted a sub 3 ERA was Gonsolin.
Yeah, but the benefit of having 10 guys is that it’s more opportunities for one of them to step up. Not every player is gonna have exactly the seasons listed above. Those are the medians. There will be 10th percentile outcomes and 90th percentile outcomes. Some will undershoot. Some will overshoot. The Dodgers don’t just build for depth to protect against injury, the build for depth to protect against 10th percentile outcomes and gain more opportunities to capitalize on 90ths.
Remember when Alex Wood was randomly a top 10 pitcher in baseball for most of a season in 2017? Remember when Ross Stripling turned into Justin Verlander for 3 months in 2018? The point of having so many faces is to increase the odds that one does so.
May’s better than Gonsolin; White’s not far away. Josiah Gray’s a bit further. There’s still Ferguson, Stripling, Dennis Santana, others ..
Would I bet you any one of those pitchers will be great next year? I would not.
Would I bet you one of them will significantly beat his projections? Yes.
In a group of 6, you expect a couple people to hit their 75th percentile outcomes. Those will be the ones who get the innings. The ones who hit their 10th will go back to the minors or the bullpen.
That’s why the Dodgers build this way. It’s the point. It’s why depth is good. It’s true with the hitters, too, but hitters are more stable than pitchers, so it both matters less and helps more: when a hitter breaks out, he usually stays broken. Cody Bellinger, Max Muncy and Gavin Lux don’t turn back into pumpkins. The pitchers might.
But the principle is the same.
Just how bananas are we talking for these long term Lux projections?
His top comp is Alan Trammell, look at the career arc of Alan Trammell.
Also, keep in mind that Trammell debuted at 19 and Lux is 22, so he’s being compared to Trammell entering his 4th major league season, where he put up 4.3 war and started a string of 11 consecutive seasons of at least 3 WAR, spiking as high as 8.
That’s ‘decent odds at a HOF career’ career path (nothing’s ever favored, of course).