Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat – 9/1/26
| 2:00 |
: Hey everybody, welcome to the chat
|
| 2:02 |
: I’m taking Brendan’s chat slot while he’s on vacation, but I don’t really know that much about prospects, so if you ask me a Brendan question, I’ll probably reply with some silly and generally under-informed answer
|
| 2:02 |
: but if you want to know about my normal nonsense? I’ve totally got you
|
| 2:02 |
: Hey Ben, what’s your take on using Aroldis Chapman in a tie game in the 9th? With the extra-inning runner rule in play, is there an analytical argument for holding your best swing-and-miss arm for the 10th inning instead of deploying him in a clean 9th, or does win probability still favor ensuring regulation stays tied?
|
| 2:02 |
: you’ll never believe this, but I wrote about this specific situation
You Aren't a FanGraphs Member
It looks like you aren't yet a FanGraphs Member (or aren't logged in). We aren't mad, just disappointed.
We get it. You want to read this article. But before we let you get back to it, we'd like to point out a few of the good reasons why you should become a Member.
1. Ad Free viewing! We won't bug you with this ad, or any other.
2. Unlimited articles! Non-Members only get to read 10 free articles a month. Members never get cut off.
3. Dark mode and Classic mode!
4. Custom player page dashboards! Choose the player cards you want, in the order you want them.
5. One-click data exports! Export our projections and leaderboards for your personal projects.
6. Remove the photos on the home page! (Honestly, this doesn't sound so great to us, but some people wanted it, and we like to give our Members what they want.)
7. Even more Steamer projections! We have handedness, percentile, and context neutral projections available for Members only.
8. Get FanGraphs Walk-Off, a customized year end review! Find out exactly how you used FanGraphs this year, and how that compares to other Members. Don't be a victim of FOMO.
9. A weekly mailbag column, exclusively for Members.
10. Help support FanGraphs and our entire staff! Our Members provide us with critical resources to improve the site and deliver new features!
We hope you'll consider a Membership today, for yourself or as a gift! And we realize this has been an awfully long sales pitch, so we've also removed all the other ads in this article. We didn't want to overdo it.
|
| 2:03 |
: basically yes, there is an analytical argument
|
| 2:03 |
: but it’s pretty marginal
|
| 2:03 |
: that’s never stopped me before, of course
|
| 2:03 |
: After two years in a row of the AL’s 3 best(2026) / 3 of the 4 best(2025) teams being cornered in one half of the bracket due to the AL East division, would you change the playoff format and do you think the commissioner’s office will try to? As a Red Sox fan I find it very annoying to have to hope and pray for the possibility of any playoff home games while a possibly under-.500 AL West winner is guaranteed them.
|
| 2:04 |
: oh, I would definitely change the format
|
| 2:04 |
: not even a question
|
| 2:04 |
: I’m not quite sure how I would
|
| 2:04 |
: but I’d definitely want to change it
|
| 2:05 |
: don’t worry, we’ll surely be writing about new playoff ideas this winter
|
| 2:06 |
: Did you catch the Nats ninth inning meltdown Sunday? In a season filled with them, it was still a special one. For another example of a bewildered pitcher, I really encourage you going back and watching Tom Cosgrove on the Joe Mack sac fly, if you haven’t seen it already.
|
| 2:06 |
: I didn’t, but oh man, what a week for collapses
|
| 2:07 |
: the Giants one was also amazing
|
| 2:07 |
: Just hope you saw that Dave Flemming and Jon Miller were geeking out over the Trent Harris curveball article last week!
|
| 2:08 |
: I did, quite the thrill
|
| 2:08 |
: Am I being overly optimistic based on half a minor league season and a few good at bats, or do the Giants have something with Jonah Cox?
|
| 2:08 |
: i mean, could it be something? yes. is it 100% something? nothing is
|
| 2:08 |
: but would I be excited too? totally
|
| 2:09 |
: Are you going to watch Jedixson Paez’ start tonight and see some 80 control? What do you think about control over stuff pitchers, like he seems to be?
|
| 2:11 |
: I probably will not, but I’ll probably watch some clips of it afterwards. I’m a big proponent of control-over-stuff pitchers in general, especially because stuff feels easier to add
|
| 2:12 |
: I’m a sucker for the guys who are dotting corners and getting it done with fastball shape instead of raw velo
|
| 2:12 |
: Are there any ways to quantify the time from start of swing (bat on shoulder) to contact with the ball? What stands out to me every time I watch Roman Anthony hit is how his bat goes from his shoulder to the strike zone especially quickly, like a rattlesnake striking. Is there anything to this? Is it correlated with good/bad things?
|
| 2:12 |
: you could do something like bat speed divided by swing length
|
| 2:12 |
: there was a good presentation at saber seminar talking about how this specific input, basically rotational acceleration, is useful and not measured directly
|
| 2:13 |
: What’s your favorite storyline of the 2026 season
|
| 2:13 |
: has to be the White Sox
|
| 2:13 |
: like, they’re on track for a bye
|
| 2:13 |
: not to make the playoffs as the last wild card, to be one of the two best division winners. how wild
|
| 2:13 |
: can i get a silly and uninformed answer about which prospect has you most excited?
|
| 2:13 |
: well you definitely can
|
| 2:14 |
: I’m most excited to see Eli Willits. Because man, he’s hyped, and man, I have very very little idea how he’ll turn out
|
| 2:15 |
: his batting lines are wild in a good way, he could grow into almost anything, and he’s a switch-hitting shortstop walking more than he strikes out at high-a at 18. Also, he’s batting .223
|
| 2:15 |
: Cam Schlittler is undoubtably great, but having watched a bunch of his games I still find it hard to understand how he does it. Basically just throws fastballs at the top of the zone with ok command and bad breaking balls. And then no one can touch him. Remarkable that it works, especially as a starter!
|
| 2:15 |
: very good fastballs, though
|
| 2:16 |
: also the cutter is kind of a pseudo-breaking-ball, which helps
|
| 2:16 |
: it has a lot of IVB, so it’s not quite a gyro slider, but it diverges like 10 inches from his fastball horizontally, sounds like a brekaing ball to me. it just happens to move 95 mph
|
| 2:17 |
: i have been slow moving Schlittler up in my mental list for basically the reasons you’re talking about. I definitely was below consensus on him when I talked to people about trade value
|
| 2:18 |
: basically i’d say the breaking balls aren’t that bad. our models love all his stuff, more than I do probably
|
| 2:18 |
: and he gets away with it because no one can square anything he throws up
|
| 2:18 |
: It seems like most things in baseball that could be chalked up to “mentality” are actually sample size variance. And yet: the Mariners continue to find new bullshit ways to lose games via careless mental mistakes and meltdowns. At what point does one point the finger at the team (and fire the manager)?
|
| 2:18 |
: yeah it’s like, MOST things are, but not all
|
| 2:18 |
: and it really is hard to distinguish
|
| 2:19 |
: I think that from my perspective, this is kind of a tough call, but lots of managerial firings are like “well we don’t know if it’s the manager or not, but it might be, and we don’t like the good stuff they do enough to offset the risk that this downside comes from the manager’
|
| 2:19 |
: no one really *knows* ever, you know? but at some poitn the risk/reward tips over into ‘yeah it might be’
|
| 2:20 |
: Verlander was getting flashbacks to World Series Bregman and Soto and nipping it in the bud. I think there’s a false Max Clark perception because of the Tik Tok, tattoos, chains, etc. But he’s revealing himself as an introspective data nerd. Books, covers, etc.
|
| 2:20 |
: oh wow, I totally forgot Verlander was a character in that world series even though of course I was thinking of Soto when I saw Clark
|
| 2:20 |
: Like, Bregman’s not so much, but the childlike glee Soto did it with
|
| 2:22 |
: Did WPA award Colton Cowser +1.000 points for that catch? (also holy hell did you see that catch?)
|
| 2:23 |
: it doesn’t. in fact, wpa doesn’t award anything to fielders
|
| 2:24 |
: but like, yeah, that was a win. one win exactly of value. hard to argue otherwise. you can argue who deserves the credit on many of these – like, if an outfielder makes a routine catch that ends the game, do they get credit for that?
|
| 2:24 |
: but in this particular instance, very few outfielders make that play, hard to argue he deserves less than, say, 95% of the credit
|
| 2:24 |
: Hi Ben! Fellow Ben, Ben Brown had a neck injury setback last week. I’m concerned about his long term outlook. What does a like named person say about this?
|
| 2:25 |
: loved Eric’s notes about seeing Brown pitch
|
| 2:26 |
: I mean, I’m worried! He doesn’t have a long track record and he’s been hurt a lot, so my mind immediately goes to ‘how many times can he get hurt while still throwing the same high quality stuff’
|
| 2:26 |
: i hope it works out. i’m worried for him, and for the Ben Cinematic Universe
|
| 2:26 |
: BREAKING NEWS: ARTE MORENO SOLD THE ANGELS
|
| 2:26 |
: this is huge
|
| 2:27 |
: man
|
| 2:27 |
: i dislike the implication that data nerds don’t have tattoos!
|
| 2:27 |
: agree
|
| 2:27 |
: I have a tattoo
|
| 2:27 |
: no one would argue that I’m not a data nerd
|
| 2:27 |
: BEN THIS IS THE HAPPIEST IVE FELT IN A DECADE
|
| 2:27 |
: New just broke that Arte Moreno is finally selling the Angels to Stan Kroenke of all people. How long do you think before we start to see things take shape under new ownership? As a person from St. Louis I have a particular disdain for Kroenke but he does own some pretty successful franchises in different sports already.
|
| 2:28 |
: yeah, look, the St. Louis stuff rubs me the wrong way still too
|
| 2:28 |
: as a longtime Cardinals fan whose family still lives in St. Louis (hi Roy)
|
| 2:28 |
: I have to imagine things are gonna get better, though. gimme the devil I don’t know after the last 20 years of the Angels
|
| 2:29 |
: Considering Imanaga has too much trouble keeping the ball in the park, seems likely he won’t have a rotation spot for Cubs in playoffs. Cubs will probably not have a single pitcher making a playoff start with over 1 WAR contributed to the team in the regular season.
|
| 2:30 |
: man
|
| 2:30 |
: that’s crazy
|
| 2:31 |
: it does look like it’ll possibly be true, though, depending on how the rest of the regula rseason goes
|
| 2:31 |
: for flukish reasons, of course, like injuries and trades and all. but still, what a stat
|
| 2:31 |
: Shouldn’t the Dodgers move to a five-man rotation (or, at a minimum, have Skubal and Snell throw every five days)? In a seven-game series, the 1/5 and 3/7 starters throw on four days of rest (2/6 is the only one with five days of rest, which was Yamamoto in the 2024 WS and 2025 NLCS and WS). Glasnow was excellent on four days of rest over the weekend.
|
| 2:32 |
: they appear to have made the calculation that it’s less important to get guys acclimated to the amount of rest they’ll have in the plyoaffs, and more important to just use them less
|
| 2:32 |
: I think that’s probably okay. I don’t tihnk Skubal doesn’t know how to pitch on four days’ rest or anything. But I’m not a biomechanics expert, I defer to them on how this plays into rest, habit, that kinda stuff
|
| 2:32 |
: Oh man sorry for all the Cubs comments, didn’t realize you were a Cards fan. Is PCA your MVP?
|
| 2:33 |
: eh, not really a specific team’s fan for quite some time at this point. PCA is surely the MVP, though. Who else?
|
| 2:33 |
: McGonigle is kind of doing it all, and given his pedigree, yeah that scans. But have you seen any of his baserunning? A modest 12 SB to 2 CS, but StatCast has him at +5 (tied for third best in baseball) for baserunning runs and his six Advances is tied for 2nd most.
|
| 2:35 |
: tied for 7th-best in baseball, to be fair, but yeah, it’s impressive. His baserunning hasn’t jumped out to me this year but that’s the kind of thing you don’t easily notice watching a game
|
| 2:35 |
: AJ Ewing legit?
|
| 2:35 |
: hoenstly I still have no idea
|
| 2:36 |
: it’s clear that the building blocks of a very good outfielder are tehre
|
| 2:36 |
: i’m a little bit worried by how much he’s striking out relative to how much power he’s hitting for
|
| 2:36 |
: I’m encouraged by the fact that they seem to just be whiff strikeouts more than chase strikeouts, though
|
| 2:36 |
: as in it’s not like he’s just waving at everything by a long shot
|
| 2:37 |
: Genuinely crazy how quickly PCA went from a center fielder clone of Javier Baez to literally peak Mike Trout
|
| 2:37 |
: it’s nuts, right?
|
| 2:37 |
: I changed my tune on him pretty heavily from last year’s trade value to this year’s
|
| 2:38 |
: there’s definitely some ‘once is an accident twice is a trend’ there but like
|
| 2:38 |
: how did last year’s second half portend this year’s season? it kinda didn’t
|
| 2:38 |
: he just is much better than i expected, by a lot
|
| 2:38 |
: Is Clay Holmes an extension candidate on the north side? He’s a great fit and vice versa.
|
| 2:39 |
: yeah, I think that would make sense, with the standard caveat that things are tougher to judge around the lockout
|
| 2:39 |
: like perhaps the cubs jsut feel like extending zero guaranteed offers, period, until they learn the new lay of the land
|
| 2:40 |
: but yes, a pitching-needy team with a pitcher currently throwing well for them who has a player option feels like a great fit. tear up the option (which he wasn’t going to exercise anyway), write a new deal for 3/60 or whatever, announce it before the playoffs start
|
| 2:40 |
: feels like a win/win to me for a team that clearly intends to compete indefinitely and also clearly needs some rotation help
|
| 2:42 |
: Gotta say I was on the other end around here in that I didn’t think Wetherholt should be rookie of the year. Now it seems like a moot point, but if I had a vote it definitely would have gone to Spencer or McLean. I just don’t trust the defensive numbers enough for that to be the edge.
|
| 2:42 |
: I don’t have a rookie of the year vote
|
| 2:42 |
: I odn’t have any BBWAA votes, to be clear. I’m not a BBWAA member
|
| 2:42 |
: but if I did, I would be voting for Wetherholt
|
| 2:43 |
: My view is that it’s fine to discount the defensive numbesr. Even by a good amount if you want. But you shouldn’t ignore them totally, you should jsut weight everything by how sure you are it matters
|
| 2:43 |
: or is accurately reflecting things
|
| 2:43 |
: and even if you lop off quite a bit of the defensive value, I still think he a)comes out the best b)has a very bright future, top prospect who clicked immediately in the majors
|
| 2:44 |
: whether to consider a player’s long-term potential in RoY voting is a philosophical question, it’s not clearly answered by the criteria of the award, but I would use it as a tiebreaker
|
| 2:44 |
: if you made me vote today, my ballot would be 1. Wetherholt 2. McLean 3. Benge but I haven’t dived incredibly deeply
|
| 2:44 |
: what with not having a vote and all
|
| 2:44 |
: where do you rank the current cubs outfield (PCA, happ, suzuki + conforto/shaw) in recent memory? in WAR, at the pace they’re going at they would end up the 6th best outfield of the century between 2012 LAA and 2016 CHC
|
| 2:44 |
: this is giving me most home runs by a father/son duo vibe
|
| 2:45 |
: no disrespect to Suzuki, who’s having an awesome year and is a guy I’ve liked (and probably over-hyped) for a long time
|
| 2:46 |
: I think my first year of bold prediction contests on Effectively Wild, I had ‘suzuki leads the NLC in wRC+’ and I’ve just stayed bullish since
|
| 2:46 |
: it’s very impressive. having a 10 win outfielder makes it a lot easier to have an elite historical outfield, though
|
| 2:46 |
: Report came out this weekend that James Click is considered to be the frontrunner for the A’s open GM position going into the offseason. How excited should I be as an A’s fan compared to the last decade+ with Forst at the helm? I’m struggling to contextualize how much of the Astros dynasty success was due to his wins as the GM. Thanks!
|
| 2:47 |
: I think the cleanest read is that we don’t know how much his stewardship mattered, but that it sure seems like he was doing some stuff right that wasn’t refreshed after his departure
|
| 2:48 |
: you’ll never know. we’ll never know. the inputs are very obscured from the outputs. But I don’t get the ick from his tenure in Houston, at the very least
|
| 2:48 |
: Also, I know that the sample size is miniscule, but what’s your read on Brett Bateman so far? His BABIP is .433, which is clearly unsustainable, but he was already trending high for multiple seasons in the minors. It has been discussed before how predictions of a “regression to the mean BABIP” can sometimes be fallacious, in that there can be casual factors—either some element of skill, or a lack thereof—driving core batted-ball trends. How much of Bateman’s profile holds up in the long run, and to what extent can he reliably keep squeezing weak line drives through the infield gap?
|
| 2:50 |
: i don’t know the specific numbers to answer your question in its entirety, but basically I don’t believe much of it
|
| 2:51 |
: he doesn’t hit a ton of line drives, which is something that would make me believe
|
| 2:51 |
: he might be a true talent somewhat high babip guy, his minor league numbers are somewhat suggestive
|
| 2:52 |
: but this is the best BABIP of his career by some margin
|
| 2:52 |
: and like, eh
|
| 2:53 |
: you don’t generally go wrong betting against that continuing
|
| 2:53 |
: I’ll likely do a deeper dive on this later in the month because you’ve intrigued me and I’m light on topics
|
| 2:54 |
: re playoff format, isn’t the easiest fix to go back to 2 divisions? Maybe that would require expanding to 32 teams (great) but MLB lived with a 4 team AL West for a while so I don’t see why it would be a huge issue
|
| 2:54 |
: yeah something along these lines
|
| 2:54 |
: maybe no divisions!
|
| 2:55 |
: the balanced shedule kinda rocks anyway
|
| 2:56 |
: let’s just lean into it more and give the teams with the best records the best spots
|
| 2:56 |
: Every team makes the second season…..but man, the best teams get byes and the worst teams need to win A LOT more games than the middle teams to advance…..every fanbase is engaged all year long, and into the second season for at least a game…..
|
| 2:56 |
: Less playoff teams, more cities that don’t care about August and September baseball.
|
| 2:56 |
: i was wondering about this, but I think that in the end, I don’t like it enough
|
| 2:57 |
: it’s a fun idea but I think the idea of getting rid of some of the existing guaranteed home games is too hard of a pitch
|
| 2:58 |
: To add on to my Click question, I think if he comes in and immediately overhauls the pitching department for the organization I’ll feel more comfortable giving him additional credit for them being as good as they were for so long. Maybe some of that is the current pitching situation being so dire for the org, but they always seemed to turn out good arms under his direction.
|
| 2:59 |
: yeah, I think I roughly agree with this
|
| 2:59 |
: it’s an unknown
|
| 2:59 |
: but I’m willing to believe that he is doing some good stuff
|
| 2:59 |
: What are your thoughts on Luis Robert Jr. being signed, and Luis de León being called up?
|
| 3:00 |
: that’s Michael’s take
|
| 3:00 |
: I don’t have much take period on De Leon, but I think Baumann nailed it on Robert
|
| 3:00 |
: why not try?
|
| 3:00 |
: surely they’re not picking up his option
|
| 3:00 |
: but this just feels like good busniess for everyone
|
| 3:04 |
: alright, on that note, I’m giong to call the chat for today and go figure out what’s for lunch today
|
| 3:05 |
: sorry if I wasn’t able to get to your question today, there were just too many good ones
|
| 3:05 |
: I am now switching to reading a bunch about the Angels sale for an article tomorrow
|
| 3:05 |
: have a wonderful week, and of course a wonderful Labor Day weekend
|
Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.
no question. Just happy Moreno is gone
IT FINALLY HAPPENED!! WHAT A GREAT DAY
do you figure mozeliak/jolly et al. finally convinced him of the realities of baseball?
Even as a non Angels fan, this is very exciting news to me. It is good for the sport to get rid of such an incompetent owner. As an Angels fan, I’m sure today is the single best day of the year
Feels like the vibe should be more most home runs by a pair of brothers (Hank and Tommie Aaron). Bobby Bonds’s 332 HR isn’t too shabby a contribution to the most HRs by a father/son duo question.
The Schlittler comment is pretty wild considering he has 5 pitches which have >=107 stuff plus this year.