Breaking News: Strikeouts Are Bad
When I first learned about a mysterious cabal of smart nerds who were analyzing baseball, I took the words I got from them as though passed down from heaven. I read Moneyball, of course. But I also read about DIPS theory, wOBA, and whatever else I could get my hands on. I read The Book so many times I wore it out and had to buy a new copy. It felt like there were cheat codes just under the surface of the sport that someone was highlighting for me.
Many of those lessons from 15 years ago are still kicking around in my head. I’m skeptical of BABIP-driven hitters, perhaps more skeptical than I should be. I dismiss batters with anomalous platoon splits, even if there’s something about them that really does make them unique. And recently I realized that I might be misunderstanding the signaling value of strikeout rate.
Back in the early 2000s, batters who struck out more hit better. That sounds counterintuitive, because strikeouts are bad. It’s actually not that weird though. Barry Bonds struck out more than Ozzie Smith in his career, just to pick two illustrative examples. Bonds isn’t even a great example, because his batting eye was otherworldly. Alex Rodriguez struck out twice as often as Omar Vizquel.
The popular opinion was that strikeouts weren’t really a negative indicator. A strikeout was bad, sure, but it was often a hidden indicator of some positive process under the hood. No one would say that being sore is good for your health, and yet people in great shape are probably sore more often than sedentary types, what with all the exercising. Amount of time spent being sore very likely has a positive correlation with health.
Take a look at a few correlations from 2000 to 2010. These look at every batter with 300 or more plate appearances in a given year:
| Year | Strikeouts | Walks | wOBACON |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2000 | 0.054 | 0.568 | 0.899 |
| 2001 | 0.043 | 0.606 | 0.895 |
| 2002 | 0.066 | 0.685 | 0.872 |
| 2003 | 0.037 | 0.581 | 0.892 |
| 2004 | 0.026 | 0.646 | 0.851 |
| 2005 | 0.121 | 0.597 | 0.868 |
| 2006 | 0.074 | 0.575 | 0.858 |
| 2007 | 0.080 | 0.530 | 0.853 |
| 2008 | 0.081 | 0.514 | 0.837 |
| 2009 | 0.041 | 0.536 | 0.842 |
| 2010 | 0.177 | 0.537 | 0.863 |
Hey, more strikeouts mean more wOBA. Correlation, as you may have heard, doesn’t equal causation, and the slope was minimal (half a point of wOBA for every percentage point of strikeout rate), but it was there.
Let’s zoom that data out to every year since 2000:
| Year | Strikeouts | Walks | wOBACON |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2000 | 0.054 | 0.568 | 0.899 |
| 2001 | 0.043 | 0.606 | 0.895 |
| 2002 | 0.066 | 0.685 | 0.872 |
| 2003 | 0.037 | 0.581 | 0.892 |
| 2004 | 0.026 | 0.646 | 0.851 |
| 2005 | 0.121 | 0.597 | 0.868 |
| 2006 | 0.074 | 0.575 | 0.858 |
| 2007 | 0.080 | 0.530 | 0.853 |
| 2008 | 0.081 | 0.514 | 0.837 |
| 2009 | 0.041 | 0.536 | 0.842 |
| 2010 | 0.177 | 0.537 | 0.863 |
| 2011 | 0.036 | 0.519 | 0.869 |
| 2012 | -0.006 | 0.391 | 0.845 |
| 2013 | 0.007 | 0.447 | 0.838 |
| 2014 | -0.098 | 0.373 | 0.800 |
| 2015 | 0.051 | 0.554 | 0.838 |
| 2016 | -0.040 | 0.447 | 0.789 |
| 2017 | -0.063 | 0.504 | 0.766 |
| 2018 | -0.104 | 0.521 | 0.784 |
| 2019 | -0.084 | 0.406 | 0.804 |
Wuh oh. Walks and production on contact are still correlated with positive outcomes, but higher strikeout rates are now associated with lower wOBA. That is unexpected.
Naturally, no one was ever saying that batters should strike out more to improve their outcomes. There was simply covariance (or correlation if you’re a normalizing sort) between striking out and doing good things like walking or smashing the ball. Maybe that’s the change. Did new training methods, or something else I can’t think of, somehow eliminate the link between strikeouts and positive outcomes?
| Year | Walks | wOBACON |
|---|---|---|
| 2000 | 0.278 | 0.427 |
| 2001 | 0.285 | 0.431 |
| 2002 | 0.198 | 0.501 |
| 2003 | 0.172 | 0.427 |
| 2004 | 0.147 | 0.498 |
| 2005 | 0.244 | 0.550 |
| 2006 | 0.248 | 0.522 |
| 2007 | 0.203 | 0.539 |
| 2008 | 0.283 | 0.558 |
| 2009 | 0.275 | 0.516 |
| 2010 | 0.270 | 0.602 |
| 2011 | 0.259 | 0.475 |
| 2012 | 0.256 | 0.478 |
| 2013 | 0.267 | 0.499 |
| 2014 | 0.184 | 0.467 |
| 2015 | 0.204 | 0.542 |
| 2016 | 0.204 | 0.534 |
| 2017 | 0.155 | 0.541 |
| 2018 | 0.123 | 0.478 |
| 2019 | 0.159 | 0.468 |
Nope! Those linkages are running strong, even if the correlation to walks has been a little bit wiggly of late. Again, this doesn’t say anything about causality, but it’s not hard to imagine that deeper counts lead to both more walks and more strikeouts, while swinging really, really, ridiculously hard produces more strikeouts and more damage when you do hit the ball. Neither of those fundamental relationships seems to have changed much in the last twenty years.
So what gives? I thought I’d approach the problem using an ad hoc method. I predicted each batter’s wOBA in each year using only their wOBA on contact (wOBACON if you’re hungry). From there, I took the “error,” the difference between the prediction and the batter’s actual wOBA, and compared that error term to a batter’s strikeout rate. This should, in theory, handle the covariance issue; a batter with a high strikeout rate but also high production on contact will have a higher predicted wOBA than one who strikes out less and dinks the ball more, which will get rid of that annoying cross-correlation.
When we look only at how strikeout rate contributes to this error term, we get a real relationship. Strikeout rate is strongly correlated to the gap between predicted and actual production:
| Year | Correlation | wOBA Per 1% K |
|---|---|---|
| 2000 | -0.754 | -.0030 |
| 2001 | -0.769 | -.0029 |
| 2002 | -0.755 | -.0029 |
| 2003 | -0.762 | -.0030 |
| 2004 | -0.759 | -.0029 |
| 2005 | -0.717 | -.0025 |
| 2006 | -0.726 | -.0027 |
| 2007 | -0.728 | -.0027 |
| 2008 | -0.707 | -.0024 |
| 2009 | -0.729 | -.0026 |
| 2010 | -0.680 | -.0023 |
| 2011 | -0.761 | -.0026 |
| 2012 | -0.767 | -.0026 |
| 2013 | -0.752 | -.0026 |
| 2014 | -0.786 | -.0028 |
| 2015 | -0.739 | -.0026 |
| 2016 | -0.750 | -.0027 |
| 2017 | -0.743 | -.0027 |
| 2018 | -0.771 | -.0029 |
| 2019 | -0.775 | -.0028 |
That correlation, and the slope, are strong and consistent over time. Once you know how well someone does when they put the ball in play, that’s not shocking. For every one point increase in strikeout rate, we’d expect to see a wOBA roughly three points lower on average (assuming contact quality stays constant).
But there’s something weird here. Look at that table again: Both the correlation and the slope are consistent over time. Adding strikeouts seems to hurt exactly as much, after accounting for loudness of contact, as it did in 2000. And yet we saw the evidence above: higher strikeout rates are now a sign of worse batters, not better.
Why is this? It’s because there’s a hidden factor we haven’t yet considered. A single point of strikeout rate might be tied to a similar decline in wOBA, but strikeout rates are far more dispersed now than they’ve ever been. It’s hardly a secret that strikeout rates have crept up over the years; non-pitchers struck out 15.9% of the time in 2000 and 22.4% of the time in 2019. That higher rate comes with wider variation:
| Year | K% | StDev K% | 3-Year Avg StDev |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2000 | 15.9% | 4.79% | – |
| 2001 | 16.8% | 5.08% | – |
| 2002 | 16.3% | 5.45% | 5.11% |
| 2003 | 15.9% | 4.75% | 5.10% |
| 2004 | 16.3% | 5.19% | 5.13% |
| 2005 | 16.0% | 5.06% | 5.00% |
| 2006 | 16.3% | 5.11% | 5.12% |
| 2007 | 16.6% | 5.35% | 5.17% |
| 2008 | 17.0% | 5.63% | 5.36% |
| 2009 | 17.5% | 5.37% | 5.45% |
| 2010 | 18.0% | 5.46% | 5.49% |
| 2011 | 18.1% | 5.37% | 5.40% |
| 2012 | 19.2% | 5.69% | 5.51% |
| 2013 | 19.3% | 5.87% | 5.64% |
| 2014 | 19.9% | 6.03% | 5.86% |
| 2015 | 19.9% | 5.72% | 5.87% |
| 2016 | 20.6% | 5.79% | 5.85% |
| 2017 | 21.2% | 6.04% | 5.85% |
| 2018 | 21.7% | 5.77% | 5.87% |
| 2019 | 22.4% | 5.92% | 5.91% |
And that wider variation seems to be enough. It was never good to be a higher-strikeout batter; there simply wasn’t as much variation. Every batter was clumped in the middle, and production on contact was more important. But production on contact hasn’t changed much in magnitude, and it hasn’t changed at all in variance:
| Year | wOBACON | StDev | 3-Year Avg StDev |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2000 | .383 | 0.061 | – |
| 2001 | .371 | .060 | – |
| 2002 | .367 | .057 | .059 |
| 2003 | .369 | .053 | .057 |
| 2004 | .374 | .052 | .054 |
| 2005 | .366 | .051 | .052 |
| 2006 | .376 | .052 | .052 |
| 2007 | .376 | .055 | .053 |
| 2008 | .375 | .053 | .053 |
| 2009 | .376 | .052 | .053 |
| 2010 | .374 | .057 | .054 |
| 2011 | .365 | .052 | .054 |
| 2012 | .372 | .055 | .055 |
| 2013 | .368 | .055 | .054 |
| 2014 | .369 | .052 | .054 |
| 2015 | .370 | .055 | .054 |
| 2016 | .380 | .050 | .053 |
| 2017 | .388 | .055 | .053 |
| 2018 | .379 | .052 | .052 |
| 2019 | .390 | .056 | .054 |
So now normal dispersion in strikeout rate is bigger, which means that a batter one standard deviation below the mean and a batter one standard deviation above the mean are much further apart in strikeout rate. It’s easier, in this day and age, to strike out enough that you just aren’t playable. Variance is wider, which means more players fit that bill. And correlation is a simple thing; it more or less looks at the data points and draws a line. A handful of batters striking out so much they torpedo their stats could flip the observed correlation of strikeout rate and wOBA, and now there’s an intuitive result where once there was a confusing one.
I’d like to point out, at this point, that this whole article has arguably been nonsense. There’s no real meaning in these relationships; as we saw, adding strikeouts is as costly as it ever was, and racking up value when you put the ball in play is still king. In fact, it’s always possible that I interpreted these correlations incorrectly; I’m no mathematician, and I’m merely spitballing based on my intuition of how these relationships have changed. The magnitude of everything is tiny, and there’s nothing causal. It’s just fun with numbers.
But the baseball season hasn’t started yet, and in an increasingly grim world, we could all use a little frivolous data entertainment. If, like me, you enjoy a little mathematical tomfoolery, I hope this fits the bill. Strikeouts have always been bad! They just show up that way now, even if you don’t take the time to control for other things.
Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.
I’m not sure if this is part of what you are finding or not, but I’ve been speculating that in the juiced ball era (which goes back to what, 2015?), there should be greater value in making contact as opposed to striking out. People have usually framed this as “if you strike out, the defense can’t make an error or a ball can’t find a hole or you can’t move a runner over.” But the last few years it’s more like “you can’t make a routine fly ball leave the yard.”
You also can’t hit into a double play if you strike out.
This is true and a counterpoint I make often. But I think the juiced ball might tip the scales a bit in terms of potential reward for making more contact.
The reason why Ks are bad is not that they don’t move runners but that they are outs. A K isn’t worse than a groundout (or only marginally so) but the PA that became a K could also have become a single or a homer.
So you have to compare a K to the entire batted ball spectrum and not just outs.
Of course a high K hitter can still be good with great walk rates and power (adam dunn) but given the same bb and iso lower Ks is better. K rate is basically the difference between adam dunn and mike trout (and defense:)) as their iso and walk rate are rather similar in their primes.
But of course this doesn’t exist in a vacuum and sometimes higher K guys have more pop.
I love this site, but this is a pretty tone deaf headline given current events.
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there are five articles on the front-page about COVID-19 and it’s baseball impact… how many would you like there to be?
I’m probably just going to display my misunderstanding of correlation but isn’t a correlation of 0.100 or less indicative of very little correlation? So the statement that more K’s means higher wOBA is wrong? I mean technically it’s true that more K’s did mean more wOBA back 15 years ago and the correlation has turned negative recently which has flipped it, but the numbers have been very, very , very weak throughout.
Oh yeah SUPER weak. It’s still a technically true statement. But they were never strongly linked at all.
These are global takes, right?
Across all of MLB.
How about working by buckets? (Cause it would make a difference if the increased strikeouts are uniform across the board or concentrated among the high strikeout players.)
‘Cause to my amateur ears this screams “tipping point” .
Anecdotally we know being too passive at the plate is a negative, just as being too free a swinger. The extremes are where trouble lies because tbey signal the pitcher is in control.
How often do we hear about “controlled aggression”?
Wouldn’t finding tbe tipping point(s) if they exist and how they might vary by time correlate with the changing balance between pitching and hitting?
A follow-up article, you say? More content without having to brainstorm a new idea, you say? I’m listening. 🙂
Perhaps taking a look at those groups one dev above/below the mean to see what weird extremes they have…?
I’ve always wondered how it could be that strikeouts are a great indicator of how good a pitcher is but are not a good indicator of how good or bad a hitter is. Obviously the extreme high end for hitters was always bad and there are some players who are able to buck statistical trends but with pitchers you hear “look at that K%!” and with hitters the feeling seemed to generally be “it’s just an out, like any other.” It seemed to me that it had to be a zero sum game – if it was good for pitchers to strike out hitters then it had to be bad for hitters to strike out.
This article actually helps to explain a lot about that. Thanks.
I don’t think anyone would say a strikeout was an indicator of a good hitter, even if some guys who struck out more often were more productive. A strikeout isn’t necessarily worse than any other out. But making outs is definitely always bad for hitters. What you want is hitters who make fewer outs, and when they don’t make an out they produce as much value with their at bats as possible. I think this article is just showing that if you strike out at too high of a rate, you are giving away too many opportunities for value. And as strikeouts rise in general, striking out becomes less of a positive indicator of someone who is willing to trade some contact for more power.
I think it just comes down to the player/situation
Player slashing 290/380/500 strikes out he’s got a better chance of canceling out that K with other production whereas someone slashing 245/305/430 isn’t as likely ,meaning it’s probably better they just put the ball in play and see what happens. If that makes any sense
I think the variance aspect is the critical piece and can at least be partially explained by the idea that teams appear more willing to give opportunities to players who show bad contact skills in the minors with the hope that they Joey Gallo their way to enough production on contact (Joey Gallo is an extreme example of a player who is much more than just passable at his high K-rate).
Also teams may be giving a longer leash than they previously would have to guys like Odor who have performed in the past but are K’ing too much, without possessing other skills to compensate.
Maybe throw in the have or have nots attitude in MLB and bad teams giving run to high K-rate guys as well.
Basically I think teams have been testing the boundaries of K-rate and production and have finally gotten to the point where players who K too much without possessing sufficient other skills to compensate have finally gotten enough play time to push the relationship into the negative.
I know the banging scheme makes any kind of Astros analysis a bit suspect at this point until we have better knowledge of when the cheating stopped, but it was interesting that the Astros once had a very high strikeout lineup and then went a full 180 and became more K averse than any other team. This isnt just a cheating thing. They made conscious effort to find hitters who make contact like Gurriel, Redick, Brantley, etc.
And it’s not like they dont suffer from things people say are negative effects of more balls in play. They are always at the bottom of GIDP numbers for instance. And their babip is mediocre. Overall they just seem to hate strikeouts in an era when people are generally neutral on it
I blame Chris Davis.
Yes but Pedro Alvarez and Chris Carter were around in 2010.
Ks are definitely bad but it depends what the trade off is. Strictly speaking a k has almost the same linear weight value as a BB (which is why k-bb% works so well) but BB rate is correlated more to sucess than Ks because BBs tend to coicide w power (pitchers avoid zone) and Ks not really or even negatively.
In theory only K-BB% matters and 15/5% is the same as 25/15 but the latter will often have more power.
If you normalize for power then basically it is strict K-bb (and a bit of babip:)), I tried to do that in this article here and k-bb-iso (or better BB+iso-K) correlated very well with wRC+
https://community.fangraphs.com/introducing-k-bb-iso/
I think one reason is the league is now closer together in power, there are very few sub 10 homer guys who play more than 400 PAs while 6 homer middle infielders were common 20 years ago.
Also the top guys didn’t really improve power increasing that effect i.e we have more 20 to 30 hr guys than 15 years ago but not more 45+ guys.
This means power is simply less of a separator and the negative effect of Ks comes through more.
Number of players w x homers w 400+ PAs
2019:
45+ 5
30+ 57!
20+120
<10 19
1999:
45+ 6
30+ 44
20+ 102
<10 45
So there is much less separation in power and less ability to compensate for Ks.