Cubs Add Marcus Stroman Right at the Lockout Deadline

The Sugar Glum Fairy had one last holiday treat for us before the lockout rudely intervened, with the Cubs signing starting pitcher Marcus Stroman to a three-year contract. After opting out of the 2020 season while recovering from a calf injury, he resumed his career without missing a beat, starting 33 games for the Mets with a 3.02 ERA and 3.49 FIP, good for 3.4 WAR.

Over three years, the total guarantee for the deal is $71 million, with $25 million coming in both 2022 and ’23 and a $21 million base salary for ’24. For each 160-inning season in ’22 and ’23, $2 million is added to the ’24 salary, making it a tidy $75 million. Stroman also has the ability to opt out of the final year of his contract, becoming a free agent after 2023. Let’s jump straight into the projection.

ZiPS Projection – Marcus Stroman
Year W L S ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA+ WAR
2022 13 9 0 3.60 31 31 170.0 163 68 19 47 148 121 3.5
2023 12 8 0 3.71 29 29 155.3 153 64 17 44 132 118 3.0
2024 11 8 0 3.82 27 27 148.3 148 63 17 42 123 114 2.7

Nothing looks particularly odd about the projection or the contract. At the salary assumption I’m going with this winter ($7.3 million for a win with 3% yearly growth), ZiPS would suggest a $70 million deal over three years; over five, it suggests $109 million, putting Stroman’s valuation very close to both that of Robbie Ray and Kevin Gausman. Stroman, though, was not subject to a qualifying offer due to accepting New York’s qualifying offer for the 2021 season (Gausman was in an identical position, but Ray cost the Mariners a draft pick). I’m mildly surprised that he didn’t land a longer deal, but whether the fact that he didn’t was due to inability to get one or simply a desire to get another crack at free agency in the not-too-distant future in a normal winter is unknown to me. If I ran a team or the MLBPA foolishly accepted a bizarre proposal from owners that resulted in my computer setting all salaries, I’d be happy to give him five years at $109 million. (Note to any negotiators: the Szymborski cartel’s service fee is 0.05% of base salary)

However they got to the current contract, this is a very astute signing by the Cubs. No, Stroman is not as exciting a pitcher as some of the other names available this offseason. His fastball isn’t all that fast, though it’s far from the Jered Weaver Zone, and his stuff doesn’t yield an impressive bounty of hitters looking foolish after flailing away at strike three. But if not a star thrower, he’s certainly a star pitcher, and he added another good one this season — a splitter that’s more on the changeup side than the fastball side of the spectrum.

While sinker pitchers seem almost passé in current years thanks to the increased willingness and ability of hitters to golf anything low into the stands, Stroman has seemed basically immune to the offensive changes in baseball over the last five years. Batters struggle to get loft against him; of the 92 pitchers in 2021 who threw 2,000 pitches, he had the ninth-lowest average launch angle. As a result, he’s never allowed more than 21 homers in a season, and his FIP has been remarkably stable, with less than a half-run of separation in his last five seasons.

There’s also little specific reason to worry about Stroman’s health, other than the typical angst you should feel about anybody who throws pitches for a living. His only serious injury related to throwing was shoulder fatigue in 2018 that cost him about a month of the season, but there was no structural damage, and he hasn’t had issues since (he later missed time that season due to blisters). The season he missed early in his career was due to a torn ACL, not any elbow or shoulder shenanigans, and his only nagging issue in 2021 despite missing a year was a hip pull that didn’t even cost him a start.

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Also, the Cubs really need a starting pitcher. FanGraphs has starter/reliever breakdowns going back to 1974, and comparing Cubs rotations since then, the 2021 rotation was last in FIP, last in WAR, and (probably) last in the hearts of their countrymen.

Cubs Rotations Since 1974
Season W L GS IP ERA FIP WAR Top Three by Starts
2021 41 60 162 781.7 5.27 5.21 2.6 Kyle Hendricks/Zach Davies/Adbert Alzolay
2020 25 20 60 325.0 3.77 4.02 6.0 Yu Darvish/Kyle Hendricks/Jon Lester
2012 42 76 162 922.7 4.52 4.36 6.7 Jeff Samardzija/Travis Wood/Chris Volstad
1981 27 45 106 575.3 4.13 3.59 6.8 Mike Krukow/Randy Martz/Rick Reuschel
2006 48 69 162 877.0 5.19 5.20 7.0 Carlos Zambrano/Sean Marshall/Greg Maddux
1996 54 61 162 949.0 4.76 4.80 7.5 Jaime Navarro/Frank Castillo/Steve Trachsel
1994 35 45 113 679.0 4.53 4.42 7.9 Willie Banks/Steve Trachsel/Anthony Young
2011 46 65 162 931.7 4.79 4.25 8.0 Ryan Dempster/Matt Garza/Carlos Zambrano
1982 50 67 162 934.7 4.30 4.03 8.1 Fergie Jenkins/Doug Bird/Dickie Noles
1995 58 50 144 888.3 3.98 4.54 9.0 Jaime Navarro/Frank Castillo/Steve Trachsel
2000 40 62 162 978.0 5.29 5.07 9.1 Jon Lieber/Kevin Tapani/Kerry Wood
1997 56 61 162 958.7 4.43 4.60 9.3 Steve Trachsel/Terry Mulholland/Kevin Foster
2018 59 50 163 888.0 3.84 4.30 9.6 Kyle Hendricks/Jon Lester/Jose Quintana
1983 51 61 162 896.7 4.50 4.06 10.2 Chuck Rainey/Steve Trout/Fergie Jenkins
1999 40 73 162 935.3 5.33 4.85 10.2 Steve Trachsel/Jon Lieber/Kevin Tapani
1980 44 69 162 953.7 4.32 3.83 10.8 Rick Reuschel/Dennis Lamp/Mike Krukow
1987 59 61 161 965.7 4.72 4.41 10.8 Rick Sutcliffe/Jamie Moyer/Greg Maddux
1993 58 62 163 981.3 4.45 4.24 11.0 Mike Morgan/Greg Hibbard/Jose Guzman
2013 45 65 162 974.0 3.97 4.03 11.0 Jeff Samardzija/Travis Wood/Edwin Jackson
1990 51 65 162 933.3 4.48 3.95 11.2 Greg Maddux/Mike Bielecki/Mike Harkey
1985 49 61 162 970.7 4.01 4.00 11.4 Dennis Eckersley/Steve Trout/Ray Fontenot
1978 42 61 162 989.3 4.08 3.80 11.6 Dennis Lamp/Rick Reuschel/Ray Burris
1991 48 54 160 957.0 4.35 3.85 12.3 Greg Maddux/Mike Bielecki/Shawn Boskie
2007 64 50 162 955.7 4.19 4.58 12.3 Ted Lilly/Carlos Zambrano/Jason Marquis
2010 60 60 162 960.3 4.00 4.04 12.3 Ryan Dempster/Randy Wells/Tom Gorzelanny
2017 64 47 162 888.3 4.05 4.27 12.4 Jon Lester/Jake Arrieta/John Lackey
1986 38 59 160 947.0 4.67 3.93 12.5 Dennis Eckersley/Scott Sanderson/Rick Sutcliffe
1992 59 56 162 1028.0 3.21 3.66 12.6 Greg Maddux/Mike Morgan/Frank Castillo
1979 54 64 162 965.3 4.07 3.92 12.7 Rick Reuschel/Dennis Lamp/Lynn McGlothen
1988 57 64 163 1075.3 3.69 3.60 13.7 Greg Maddux/Rick Sutcliffe/Jamie Moyer
1998 67 49 163 1007.0 4.54 4.26 14.0 Kevin Tapani/Mark Clark/Steve Trachsel
1989 73 51 162 986.0 3.67 3.55 14.1 Greg Maddux/Rick Sutcliffe/Mike Bielecki
1974 43 68 162 954.7 4.43 3.63 14.3 Rick Reuschel/Bill Bonham/Steve Stone
2005 58 56 162 994.0 4.17 4.13 14.3 Greg Maddux/Carlos Zambrano/Mark Prior
1976 49 65 162 993.3 3.94 3.54 14.4 Rick Reuschel/Ray Burris/Bill Bonham
2014 50 63 162 927.0 4.11 3.61 14.9 Travis Wood/Edwin Jackson/Jake Arrieta
1975 52 62 162 1023.7 4.29 3.63 15.0 Rick Reuschel/Bill Bonham/Ray Burris
2019 51 47 162 888.0 4.18 4.07 15.6 Jose Quintana/Jon Lester/Yu Darvish
2008 69 40 161 955.0 3.75 4.12 16.0 Ted Lilly/Ryan Dempster/Carlos Zambrano
2016 81 39 162 989.0 2.96 3.72 16.2 Jon Lester/Jake Arrieta/Kyle Hendricks
1977 54 58 162 959.7 4.07 3.72 16.9 Ray Burris/Rick Reuschel/Bill Bonham
2002 45 67 162 972.7 4.01 3.80 17.0 Kerry Wood/Matt Clement/Jon Lieber
2001 66 49 162 972.3 4.07 3.93 17.1 Jon Lieber/Jason Bere/Kevin Tapani
2009 62 54 161 961.0 3.71 3.95 17.2 Ryan Dempster/Carlos Zambrano/Ted Lilly
1984 65 45 161 985.7 3.69 3.38 17.6 Steve Trout/Scott Sanderson/Dennis Eckersley
2015 60 39 162 946.7 3.36 3.26 18.3 Jake Arrieta/Jon Lester/Kyle Hendricks
2004 61 51 162 1007.0 3.72 3.91 18.9 Greg Maddux/Carlos Zambrano/Matt Clement
2003 68 55 162 1030.3 3.69 3.69 21.0 Carlos Zambrano/Kerry Wood/Matt Clement

Of the solid 2019 rotation, only Hendricks remained two years later, and his stuff doesn’t give him a massive margin of error; he suffered easily the worst season of his career and finished with a FIP only slightly better than five.

While the Cubs are in a rebuilding/retooling phase right now, who starts the games is more than just interesting trivia, because they play in a division in which the games do count for something. Back in August, I made some premature projections for the NL Central based on players who were still under team control for 2022, and Chicago wasn’t noticeably any worse off than three of the other four teams in the division. The Cardinals surged late in the season, but the Cubs are not out of the playoff picture in 2022 by any stretch of the imagination.

There was a flurry of big-ticket activity leading up to the lockout, but you’ll find that the NL Central teams were noticeably quiet, just as they were through most of last winter. Only a single multi-year contract has been signed by a non-Cubs NL Central team: the four-year, $44 million deal St. Louis made with Steven Matz. It’s also the only contract worth more than $5 million. I like Matz and think that’s a fair price for an average-ish starter, which is something the Cardinals need, but literally zero front offices have ever called a tense emergency meeting with coffee mugs plummeting to the floor because of the dropped bombshell that a rival has acquired his services.

With the Reds talking about trading Luis Castillo rather than acquiring top talent, I would not be the least bit surprised if the Cubs enter the 2022 season with a third-place projection, one that leaves them within shouting distance of the Cardinals and Brewers. They have more work to do, plus we’re not quite sure what a possible 2022 season would even look like at this point, so it’s a bit premature to throw any celebrations. But if they spend a bit more dough when free agency resumes, they could be competitive in a weak division far quicker than many of the naysayers think.

For now, this is a dandy of a deal for the Cubs. They needed a starting pitcher, and they got a good one for a good price.





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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DaclubbiesMember since 2021
4 years ago

Edit: when free agency resumes instead of removes

CC AFCMember since 2016
4 years ago

This is the most baffling signing of the offseason for me. I totally agree with Dan that $100m+ would have been well justified here. Why why why did all the contenders who could have sorely used him let him go for such a low number to the Cubs?

We obviously can’t know what the other offers were, but he publicly expressed willingness/desire to play for a number of contending teams, and he has no particular connection to Chicago I can find, so I don’t think this was a case of the player turning down a $100m offer from a contender because he was hell bent on playing for the Cubs.

So what the hell Yankees, Dodgers, Angels, Braves, Mariners, Padres, Giants, Astros, Phillies? How did you all let this happen? I’m even letting a lot of other teams off the hook here.

Good for the Cubs, I guess? He’s certainly not gonna get them anywhere but it can’t hurt to have him around to absorb innings and maybe teach some kids some things.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

ehhh this is already more than I would have wanted to pay. He’s not in the same category as Ray and Gausman. Although I think that given how hot the pitching market was this was probably a fair deal.

Part of the issue is that a lot of these teams can’t really take advantage of Stroman’s talents because you need strong infield defense. The Phillies or the Yankees should not be valuing Stroman the way the Cardinals should.

CC AFCMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Totally (and respectfully) disagree with you bud. You and I have been commenting on a lot of stuff, so I’ve seen enough to know that you’ve been well low on the market this off-season. That’s not an insult, I think you know that and have acknowledged that. And I think there have been a lot of people who have valued him higher, so, as you know, its the high bidder that wins not the median.

I think he’s very much in gausman and ray’s category. Probably higher floor, lower ceiling. Ray has been good once in the last 4 years, and Gausman has only been really good when he’s pitching in the best pitcher’s park in baseball. Stroman’s been above average like clockwork and I think he’s actually got a little upside remaining since he’s been raising his swinging strike rate lately. He’s a tinkerer so I wouldn’t be surprised to see that translate to a higher K rate (which hasn’t happened yet).

Plus, I don’t think the Yankees and Phillies infield defenses are locked in. I’m not sure the Yankees starting SS or 1B or the Phillies SS are on their roster right now, so I don’t think we know their defenses are bad yet

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

I was low on pretty much all the pitchers except Ray, Gausman, and E-Rod. The market was hot! I think that the total dollars are fine, overall, it’s more the AAV that I think is a bit high.

But I still don’t see it. He had a great ERA last year but playing in front of Lindor as a ground ball pitcher will do that. The optimist would say that his changeup more led to better outcomes but that’s not showing up in his batted ball / xERA stuff. He’s lost about half a mile off of all his pitches, which is probably fine if that’s the end of it but not if it continues.

GoatHerderMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Regarding infield defense, that is pretty up in the air for the Cubs at the moment. At least I hope they’re not planning to go with current depth chart of Swindel, Madrigal, Hoerner and Wisdom. With pitchers like Stroman, Hendricks and Miley some strong defense is needed.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  GoatHerder

This team would actually be a logical place for Carlos Correa to land. Normally bad teams shouldn’t add $350M+ players but with that pitching staff and with how young Correa is, I actually think it would work.

cubfanjack
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

FWIW–Keith Law had Stroman as the top FA pitcher in this year’s crop. Ray seems to have more ceiling, but Stroman sure is steady.

SenorGato
4 years ago
Reply to  cubfanjack

Props to Law here

sogoodlooking
4 years ago
Reply to  cubfanjack

Steady, with elite results in 3 of his last 4 seasons. ERA+ of 133, 137, and 145, iirc. Mets fans, absurdly, often talk about Stroman as a “#3 starter.” Or, grudgingly, as “a good #3.” Oh, and those seasons averaged about 188 IP, and even in his lousy year of the four, his FIP was under 4 in the AL.

Scherzer’s better, of course, but the back half of the Mets rotation is once again likely to be so bad that the extra 20-25 innings you’ll get from Stroman will balance things out, just by keeping 2022’s versions of Nogosek and David Peterson off the mound. The 2021 Mets actually gave about 230 innings to a total of 18 pitchers with ERAs over 5.00.

That might actually get worse in 2022.

SenorGato
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Both those other guys took like a decade to get to the levels they’re at, Stroman’s been excellent since arrival. Why isn’t he on the same level? No one big season recent enough? He’s easily on tier with Gausman and Ray

hughduffy
4 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

The Red Sox, Giants, Cubs, Mets, Mariners, and Angels were all interested in Stroman according to “sources”.
The Giants resigned DeSclafani and Wood and signed Alex Cobb.
The Angels were in on Stroman, but I don’t think they were as high on him as other free agents. I think the Cubs just outbid them and the Mariners.

The Braves are still mainly focused on Freddie Freeman. Until that gets resolved, they aren’t going to sign a big ticket free agent.
The Dodgers want to keep some money set aside for Kershaw if he wants to come back.
The Padres could probably have used Stroman, but they have a lot of pitchers under contract already. They’re probably hoping for some bounce back seasons next year.
The Astros aren’t going to appreciably increase payroll. If they manage to resign Correa, that’s probably it for them.
The Phillies need pitchers who strike guys out because their infield defense ain’t so great aside from Jean Segura and Ronald Torreyes.

Back in 2019, Brian Cashman said that Stroman wasn’t a “difference-maker.” Stroman tweeted, “Besides Cole, there’s no current Yankee pitcher who will be anywhere in my league over the next 5-7 years. Their pitching always folds in the end. That lineup and payroll should be winning World Series’ left and right…yet they’re in a drought. Lol 🤷🏾‍♂️”
Stroman to the Yankees wasn’t going to happen.

Anyway, that’s how they all let this happen. HTH!

johansantana17Member since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

Red Sox?

IsBrittonInYet
4 years ago

Dan implicitly makes a good argument for abolishing the divisions here. So annoying hearing how NL central teams can gently dip their toes into the waters of actually trying and automatically have a chance. Meanwhile the Blue Jays had a Cy Young winner, 2nd and 3rd place MVP finishers, won 91 games and finished 4th in the AL East.

bookbookMember since 2024
4 years ago
Reply to  Dan Szymborski

Heavily unbalanced schedules are really stupid.

Junior Felix, Jr.
4 years ago

As unlikely as it may have been, I was hoping Marcus would find his way back to Toronto. Seems like a very reasonable contract and I’m disappointed that the Jays didn’t match or beat it.

JoserMember since 2021
4 years ago

I believe MLB’s aggregate salaries in 2021 was something like $3.1 Billion — I’m sure we’ll be hearing these numbers a lot as both sides publicly posture during the CBA negotiations. If those negotiations result in Dan Szymborski’s computer setting salaries league-wide, I think you (or at least your computer) can demand more than .05% for that service. That’s what, $1.5Million? Seems like that power is worth more than the salary of some random 1st year arb player like Jordan Luplow, if for no other reason than to make it less possible for (let’s say) Max Scherzer to put his thumb on the scale by throwing around whatever spare change he finds between the cushions of his mansion in Florida.

Speaking of which, while I agree no cups hit floors over Steven Matz, it does appear his signing in St. Louis resulted in at least one coffee cup hitting a wall in a billionaire’s office in New York, followed by a flurry of tweets and signings.

cubfanjack
4 years ago

Good piece and worth the wait!

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago

I’m not sure how I feel about this for the Cubs. If this doesn’t impact their spending down the line then it’s a good move. They just traded away much of their core and this signals to the fans that they’re still trying. They don’t have to give up a draft pick or trade anyone. But the last time I said “I like this move if it doesn’t impact their future spending” about the Cubs it turned out that it did impact their future spending. So I have some mixed feelings about it.

CC AFCMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Anything that might keep any money away from use in the Ricketts other pursuits is a positive externality, I think

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

I feel that way about Steve Cohen. Of course, Cohen has so much freaking money it barely matters.

cubfanjack
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Was the last move you mention more than a three year deal?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  cubfanjack

I don’t remember now. I would hope that because they have so little payroll on the books and this is short enough that it wouldn’t impact the long-term outlook. But they’ve been weird about money lately.

GoatHerderMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

It shouldn’t impact future spending. They’re still well below previous payroll levels. The question is do they feel spending and being mildly competitive now hurts future chances of having a serious championship window 2025-28 when some of the young talent starts hitting MLB.

Per Cot’s, here are payrolls for 40 man competitive balance purposes after latest signings:

2022 = $128,191,666
2021 = $173,065,000
2020 = $216,269,251

Mike ZMember since 2025
4 years ago

Stroman hopefully will model for Alzolay how he could use his stuff better. Appreciate the table of rotations going back 47 years. It would be fun to see an article about the best Cubs rotations.

Jason BMember since 2017
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike Z

Agreed! Kinda sad only seeing Mark Prior amongst their top three starters once, in 2005. Ah, what could’ve been…

GoatHerderMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

Yeah, weird to see Zambrano/Clement more than Wood/Prior from that time period. Also, surprised the 2016 trio wasn’t first, believe it is due to the FIP but they finished Lester #2, Hendricks #3 and Arrietta in the top 10 for Cy Young voting that season.

riffkeyMember since 2024
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike Z

Would love to see that for all teams!

Devlsh
4 years ago

I think the one factor no one has mentioned is Stroman’s height. At 5’7″, I wouldn’t be surprised if teams are concerned about his ability to hold up over a long term deal. How many SPs that height have held up under a starter’s workload for an extended period of time?

Jason BMember since 2017
4 years ago
Reply to  Devlsh

Some just retire to answering phones at ESPN – “Heyyy, Big Time Timmy Jim, what’s up?”

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  Devlsh

I think these things are usually a much bigger concern when they’re prospects and their durability is unknown. That said, durability is always a concern with a pitcher in his 30s and he has missed some time. Not enough to really worry, but enough to make a note of it.

carterMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I do not think height matters in terms of breaking. More that taller pitchers release the ball closer to the plate. Also even if smaller pitchers did age worse, I’d find it less likely work a guy who was an athletic college shortstop.

hughduffy
4 years ago
Reply to  Devlsh

Bobby Shantz was 5’6″. Also 1952 AL MVP who pitched 279.2 innings. He also pitched for 16 years in MLB, until he was 38. He wasn’t mostly a reliever until he was 33.

Pitchers break easy whether they’re 5’6″ or 6’5″.

NATS FanMember since 2018
4 years ago

I look at the cubs and do not see a contender. In fact, I kinda see the Pirates being about the same or maybe slightly better right now. But that will change cause the Pirates appear afraid of winning. But, nonetheless, the Cubs really need a year or two of experience for the new core before they truly could hope to contend. Stroman won’t likely be enough.

SenorGato
4 years ago

Somehow a move that is both years late and right on time

The 160+ IP incentives are interesting for such a durable pitcher, makes me believing the Cubs and Stroman are not thinking plug and play. Stroman added that splitter, started moving his sinker, four seam, and breaking stuff more north/south, moved his cutter in on lefties…Hottovy’s a pretty big fan of the high sinker, wouldn’t be surprised if we see a pretty different approach from Stroman

SenorGato
4 years ago
Reply to  SenorGato

Forgot to add…wouldn’t be surprised if that approach change leads to more Ks. He’s got terrific arm strength too and other ingredients (health, athleticism, conditioning, control, command, etc) to throw harder

Mahoney
4 years ago
Reply to  SenorGato

Ks went up against RHB last year, likely from having the splitter as a putaway pitch. He’s a lot like Greinke in the attributes you listed and overall smarts, and I can see him bringing up his K rate over his early 30s even without a bump in velocity.

adambulldog
4 years ago

Can you point to the analysis where you came up with $7.3 million per win? Thanks!

Nathan AndersonMember since 2021
4 years ago

This is a guy I really hoped the Cardinals would go after. Consistent, durable, pitching profile fitting well with their team defense. I don’t hate the Matz signing, but this one just looks better.