Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 8/13/20

12:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Hello chatters and chatees

12:03
Joe: The Orioles will win 28 or more games. True or false.

12:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: EVER? True.

12:03
Ben: Kyle Hendricks is good at pitching baseballs

12:04
Avatar Dan Szymborski: After facing his curve and change, Hendricks fastballs look like Jordan Hicks

12:04
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Well, Jordan Hicks fastballs. They don’t actually look like Jordan Hicks

12:05
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Though that would be a really effective changeup: making batters not swing because they think a dude is running to the plate really fast.

12:05
LFC Mike: Greetings Dan. Assume you are starting a franchise today, not a Skyline Chile franchise mind you, but an actual baseball franchise. To start your team: Soto, Acuna, Tatis Jr. or  Mr. X (parts unknown, weight unknown).

12:05
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Probably Tatis because position.

12:05
AJ: gotta love Dustin May. I’m a little more uncertain for fantasy. Is his stuff conducive to lots of strikeouts at some point? He seems to not have been a huge k/9 guy at any point yet

12:06
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think the strikeouts will eventually come, though I’d really like to see a real change in his arsenal

12:06
Chris: Dan let’s get this dance over with so we can both move past it. I’m going to say “Kyle Lewis is awesome” you are going to say “August”. Glad we could do this again this week

12:06
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I can’t anymore because the season’s nearly a third over!@

12:07
Avatar Dan Szymborski: We’re almost in June. April is over.

12:07
Avatar Dan Szymborski: But again, .438 BABIP

12:09
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Now there’s evdience that he can support a high BABIP

12:09
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Based on his season so far, ZiPS has his zBABIP for 2020 at .351

12:10
Avatar Dan Szymborski: But knock off 80 points of BABIP and he’s a 258/325/434 guy with meh defense.

12:10
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Whicih is better than expectations, but a little more normal

12:10
OddBall Herrera: Feeeed Greg Biiiiird, tuppence a bag, tuppence, tuppence, tuppence a bag. Feeeed Greg Biird, that’s what she cries, while   overhead Greg Birds fill the skies.

12:11
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Greg Birdman!

12:11
Avatar Dan Szymborski:

12:11
Jason N: Is Tatis > Acuña official?

12:11
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I love Acuña, but I would have taken Tatis before the season

12:11
Avatar Dan Szymborski: But this is a why not both thing

12:12
See! You! Later!: Do you think the Tigers should/will call up Mize after their hot start?

12:12
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think if he doesn’t get some real starts this year, the Tigers have failed on thsi point.

12:12
Eric: what is wrong with griffin canning? Shouldn’t he be pitching better with his swinging strike rate being so high?

12:12
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Hard to say as I haven’t dug deeply into Canning. I can pull up his zSO though!

12:16
Avatar Dan Szymborski: ZiPS only thinks he’s 1.5 Ks down from where he “should” be

12:17
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The swinging strike rate is above-average, but his contact numbers haven’t been

12:18
Daniel: is Jon Gray actually good?

12:18
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yes. And he’s been good.

12:18
James: Updated probability of a .400 hitter? Favorites?

12:18
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Haven’t done, but Blackmon has some things going in his favor.

12:18
Avatar Dan Szymborski: ZiPS is already projecting a 50/50 endpoint of .378 for him.

12:19
Avatar Dan Szymborski: BABIP across the league being way down — and it’s down for established players too — has really hurt the .400 odds across the board

12:19
Jimmy G: How on earth are the Cardinals going to finish the season?  They have played 5 games!

12:19
Avatar Dan Szymborski: They’re not.

12:19
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I don’t know exactly what MLB is going to do, but I’d be surprised if the Cardinals play more than 50 games.

12:19
danfan69: we look back at players that were underappreciated in their time.  what players in the game today do we underappreciate because of how we understand baseball in 2020?

12:20
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Depends how you’re defining the word.

12:20
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I don’t know what we’re doing wrong in 2020, or else I’d not be doing it!

12:21
Mrpitcher: who has the best ROS outlook: glasnow, lamet, or marquez?

12:21
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Marquez

12:21
Guest: Thoughts on David Bell this year? Between the lineups and in-game tactics, he’a been terrible IMO. Last night’s 9th was horrid. Related: how can I show the win probabilities relating to his moves to a friend? They’re on here somewhere, I just haven’t found in a clear format I can share.

12:21
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m trying not to establish *any* thoughts about lineups/tactics this year because this one is such an odd one.

12:22
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It would be like awarding Michelin stars based on which chefs cook the best omelet while sitting in a roller coaster car with a hotplate.

12:22
Jon: Is xBABIP a thing?

12:22
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The concept usually is! I do zBABIP, and I guess you guys can guess where the z is from!

12:22
James: What does ZiPS think Lemahieu’s next contract will look like? Which team do you think it will be with?

12:23
Avatar Dan Szymborski: ZiPS right now says 3/64. He *will* be a 32-year-old 2B, after all

12:23
lalo: Do you think Devers is a top 10 bat por the next 5 years ?

12:25
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Purely as a bat? No.

12:25
Eric: At what point do we start to worry about Vlad Jr? He hits the ball on the ground far too often and now that he plays 1B only he brings no defensive value (not that he ever did)

12:25
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m already mildly worried.

12:25
Avatar Dan Szymborski: For these reasons!

12:26
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I like the questions that you guys also answer for me! We can do way more that way

12:26
James: Alec Bohm just got promoted apparently

12:26
Eric: Kevin Gausman, is this turnaround real? Can he be a reliable SP?

12:26
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’ve been touting him forever in breakout type pieces, so I’m not off the bandwagon now!

12:27
Avatar Dan Szymborski: ZiPS had him as nearly the equal of Bumgarner this offseason as a pitcher

12:27
RJ: Is Alex Cobb really improved?

12:27
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I dont’ think he’s truly been healthy as an Oriole. His splitter is looking like it did pre surgery

12:28
See! You! Later!: Is it to early to panic about Yelich?

12:28
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Panic? Too early. Extreme concern? Maybe not.

12:29
Avatar Dan Szymborski: He’s somehow pulled off the feat of becoming more selective yet making worse contact

12:30
James: Is Cronenworth the Padres own Ben Zobrist lite?

12:30
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s so weird, he was like the perfect Ray in playe rtype!

12:31
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Now, he’s not THIS good, but there was reasonable evidence to think he could be a dynamite role player

12:31
Oddball Herrera: If the Mets and Phillies finish behind the Marlins I think relegation is in order

12:31
See! You! Later!: Any thoughts on the possibility of Bauer using pine tar or some other mixture to raise spin rate?

12:31
Avatar Dan Szymborski: As I said in the article, I only know what I can prove.

12:31
DJ: If he continues to hit like he has, do you think Nick Castellanos is likely to opt out of the remaining 3-years and $48 million on his Reds contract?

12:32
Avatar Dan Szymborski: At this point, I think it’s likely, unless the economy looks REALLY awful in 3 months

12:32
Kyle: How long did it take Zips to realize Trout was the best player it had ever projected?

12:33
Avatar Dan Szymborski: He had the best ever rookie projection before 2012 and I believe the most projected WAR for any projection before 2013.

12:33
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s a little tricky in that I didn’t project WAR for most of the 2000s. But I don’t see anyone who comes close.

12:33
James: Is projected wRC+ the mean or median of the spectrum of possible outcomes?

12:34
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s a little more complex, but ZiPS is generally the median

12:34
Hip Hip Jorge: Why is it so difficult for the internet in general to accept that the Astros cheating is wrong, but also that Joe Kelly is still an idiot

12:34
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Because the internet is dumb.

12:35
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Because we are dumb.

12:35
dave in slc: I think i am going online today to buy skyline chilli just so I can know what you guys are talking about and have my own opinion on it!

12:35
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Don’t save me leftovers

12:35
James: re: David Bell. I think Baseball Prospectus has a manager rating stat called wRM+

12:35
See! You! Later!: Do you think Hanser Alberto can sustain this?

12:35
Avatar Dan Szymborski: No

12:37
Your Name: Can Benintendi turn it around or is he just a bad player now?

12:37
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think there’s still hope, but there was already real concern that he wasn’t really a 2019 type of player and he’s just been awful

12:37
Jon: Where do I find zBABIP?

12:38
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I post it at times. We don’t yet have it automated (yet), so it’s not avaialble on a daily basis to the public

12:38
cg: Isn’t babip and batting average up an absurd amount this week, like league wide teams are hitting .280 this week or something? i know i checked a few days ago and it was .229, and someone said it was back up to like .238 or something.

12:38
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yeah, they had a normal weak in the .290s for BABIP

12:38
OddBall Herrera: I don’t know why everyone is so worked up about schools opening, we should’ve gone to uploading information directly into our brains long ago, like they do in that documentary about the matrix

12:38
Kiermaier’s Piercing Green Eyes: Is the “z” in zBABIP from “chili with beanz” or “chili five wayz”?

12:38
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Eww

12:39
James: Depth Charts has the Padres as the 4th best team ROS???

12:39
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m not seeing what you’re looking at.

12:40
Avatar Dan Szymborski: In depth charts, the ROS WAR is 13th.

12:42
Jeff: Should the Cubs be finding more at bats for Hoerner?  I know Kipnis has been good, but will it stunt Hoerner’s growth to not play more?  Hoerner looks like a possible future all star.

12:42
Avatar Dan Szymborski: If the Cubs run away with the division, I can see him getting more time

12:43
Eric: Will the Angles make the postseason this year? I would LOVE to see Trout playing in the playoffs again

12:43
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s tough. 7-12 is a significant hole in a 60-game seaosn

12:43
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Pujols and Upton have been black holes and the pitching has been mildly barfy

12:44
Moose_Bolton: Several players have started their season  in a way that is distinctly unlike their previous seasons. Some have been downright awful. With all of the weirdness associated with this season, are you going to be more or less likely to think that a player’s downturns(or upticks) are real or not? I’ve personally been much more inclined to just go “meh” to everything and I’m not sure that’s the right way to do it.

12:44
Avatar Dan Szymborski: That’s about my answer too. The circumstances are beyond bizarre.

12:44
James: In the Projected Standings 2020 Rest of Season Win%. Maybe it includes SOS?

12:45
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Unfortunately, I have little to do with that area, so I don’t have any particularly insight into those calculations.

12:45
OddBall Herrera: Apparently they are using my street to train new school bus drivers.  If only I had a zombie flash mob ready to go.

12:45
Ari: Other than the teams “punished”, what % of teams do you think did some sort of cheating type gaming the system that went unnoticed?

12:45
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m fairly confident most teams push the envelope in one way or another.

12:46
Uncle Rone: Romano vs. Bass? 12-team roto

12:46
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m not sure I’d be rostering either in a 12-team, but Romano’s upside strikes me as more itneresting

12:46
Sonny: I can already feel myself ascribing meaning to the 2020 performances I was rooting for and dismissing the 2020 performances that did not fit my preconceived notions. I’m bad at being a fan.

12:46
Seeforman: The umping seems particularly bad this year, especially the variability of the strike zone. How long til we have robo-umps?

12:46
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I really hope soon.

12:47
Mike: So who’s your pick for the NL East?

12:47
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Braves

12:47
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Same as my preseason pick.

12:49
Uncle Rone: Where do you see Bohm fitting into the Phillies lineup?

12:49
Avatar Dan Szymborski: For now, he’s likely picking up some Scott Kingery playing time

12:49
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Now, Gosselin’s in there too

12:50
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Given that Bohm hasn’t played above AA, I dont’ expect an instant surge of PA

12:51
Avatar Dan Szymborski: but I think he’ll get spot starts, a little pinch-hitting

12:51
Guest: Do robot umps dream electric strikezones?

12:51
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Robot umps dream about electric crappy calls

12:52
Armadillofury: How worrying is Hiura’s inability to make contact (23% swstk) in the early going?

12:52
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think he’s been over-aggressive. He was always going to be aggressive but he’s still a bit raw and I think pitchers have been taking advantage of this

12:54
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Hendricks did

12:55
Avatar Dan Szymborski: (Sorry, trying to remember the games I’ve sene him)

12:55
Sonny: There should never be a weekday without a day game in 2020. So many of us are homebound Rob!

12:55
Guest: When do we print Orioles playoff tickets for games we can’t attend?

12:55
Guest: “It would be like awarding Michelin stars based on which chefs cook the best omelet while sitting in a roller coaster car with a hotplate.”

12:55
Guest: I would watch that.  Make it happen!

12:55
B: Soft ejection for Contreras last night. Are we tossing everyone who ever slams a bat now?

12:56
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It was a little much

12:56
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The first base ump should have been making that call, it was a bit bullshit

12:56
Jazz: Is Vlad Jr just Yandy Diaz with a better pedigree right now?

12:56
Avatar Dan Szymborski: ouch

12:56
Avatar Dan Szymborski: there’s concern, but let’s not go nuts. Vladito is still very young

12:57
B: If the Cubs run away with the division will they have to return it and say sorry?

12:57
Guest: You played CrossCode yet, Dan?  If not, why not?  Do as I say!

12:57
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I have not. I’m aware — and I may already own it — but my Steam queue is daunting

12:57
Justin: I’m an expansion team in a dynasty league. I traded Kyle Lewis (who’ll be ~28 by the time my farm system gets promoted) and Corbin Carroll for Nomar Mazara and Jarred Kelenic. Did I do OK?

12:57
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yes

12:57
2B conundrum: C Biggio, L Urias, J Villar or T Edman. who should i ride with for a 12 team keeper?

12:58
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Biggio probably the safest

12:58
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m still a Urias stanner

12:58
jerome: What should the yankees do about Andujar? Was 2018 a mirage or is he that kind of player

12:58
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s so hard because he doesn’t really have a position

12:59
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s not like he had an amazing minor league history either

12:59
Salami: How much variance is going to be added to the current crop of minor leaguers projections considering we have a full season with no data?

12:59
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m not going to “add” variance as I have no basis for missed season consequences ofr prospects. I just expect the projections to be worse than usual for a year or two

12:59
Avatar Dan Szymborski: (and that’s for everybody really)

1:00
Go Cougs: Who do you think the worst player in the MLB currently is and why is it Jake Lamb? I think because he went to uw

1:01
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Chris Davis is so awful that if he had gone to Washington, they’d end their baseball program out of shame.

1:01
Sammy: Who do you value more at the moment, Goldschmidt or Rizzo for points leagues? Given that the Cards have 55 games remaining, that certainly inflates his value

1:01
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Rizzo. The Cards aren’t playing 55 games.

1:01
Justin: Luis Campusano the next Wilson Contreras? (Offensively speaking)

1:01
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s a real possibility though a lot can go wrong for a catcher prospect

1:02
a dude: For teams that end up playing less than 60 games, do the players still get paid their 60-game salary, or will it get pro-rated?

1:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Honestly? I don’t think MLB’s crossed that bridge.

1:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: And they probably don’t want to.

1:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Like players on teams that dont’ reschedule rainouts still get full salary

1:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: But we never had to deal with a team suddenly playing 20 fewer games than everyone else.

1:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I mean, they did in the 1800s

1:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: but usually, it’s because the team folded while the owner skipped town in a boxcar to escape his debtors.

1:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: On that note, it is time for me to depart for another week.

1:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Thanks for joining me, everyone!





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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bookbookMember since 2024
4 years ago

So… how much is a .760 OPS guy who plays fringey CF defense worth? More than 3 WAR? Probably, right? From our busted top 100 prospect, I’ll take it.