FanGraphs Power Rankings: September 4–10

We’re getting to the point in the season where the majority of the teams in these rankings aren’t going to budge. There was a bit of movement at the top of the rankings where three teams are battling for two spots in the AL Wild Card race.
A reminder for how these rankings are calculated: first, we take the three most important components of a team — their offense (wRC+), their pitching (a 50/50 blend of FIP- and RA9-, weighted by starter and reliever IP share), and their defense (RAA) — and combine them to create an overall team quality metric. I also add in a factor for “luck,” adjusting a team’s win percentage based on expected win-loss record. The result is a power ranking, which is then presented in tiers below.
| Team | Record | “Luck” | wRC+ | SP- | RP- | RAA | Team Quality | Playoff Odds |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Braves | 93-49 | 1 | 124 | 92 | 84 | -5 | 167 | 100.0% |
| Rays | 88-56 | -3 | 117 | 87 | 95 | 9 | 165 | 100.0% |
The Braves became the first team to secure their postseason berth this season with a series win over the Pirates on Sunday. The man who delivered the game-winning hit? National League MVP candidate Ronald Acuña Jr. Atlanta now has a huge opportunity to affect the NL Wild Card race over the remainder of the season; the Braves play the Phillies seven times over the next ten days and have series against the Marlins and Cubs on the docket, too.
| Team | Record | “Luck” | wRC+ | SP- | RP- | RAA | Team Quality | Playoff Odds |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dodgers | 87-55 | 1 | 118 | 102 | 89 | 5 | 149 | 100.0% |
| Blue Jays | 80-63 | 0 | 108 | 90 | 85 | 2 | 158 | 79.1% |
| Mariners | 79-64 | -3 | 108 | 91 | 91 | 9 | 157 | 69.4% |
| Rangers | 78-64 | -6 | 114 | 92 | 108 | 12 | 153 | 51.5% |
All of a sudden, the Dodgers are facing some real questions on their pitching staff. Julio Urías was placed on Administrative Leave last week after he was arrested and charged with felony domestic violence charges; he’s unlikely to pitch again this season. The team also announced that Walker Buehler won’t return from his Tommy John rehab this year, pushing his return to 2024. Clayton Kershaw seems to be feeling the ill effects of his shoulder injury; his last two starts featured a significant dip in fastball velocity, and his next start was pushed back to Friday in the hopes that he can bounce back physically. At least the Dodgers dodged a bullet after Mookie Betts fouled a pitch off his toe on Thursday; there was no major damage, and he was back in the lineup on Sunday.
With both the Mariners and Rangers faltering to begin September, the Blue Jays have taken advantage of their soft schedule to win seven of their nine games this month and vault themselves over those two teams in the AL Wild Card race. Davis Schneider has continued his surprising assault on big league pitching, and Bo Bichette came off the IL last weekend. They’ve got a huge four-game series against the Rangers this week, which should prove to be a test of how competitive they really are.
There’s nothing like a series win against the A’s to wipe away the memory of allowing 39 runs to the Astros. The Rangers were completely outclassed against Houston, another huge wakeup call amidst a protracted slide down the standings. To make matters worse, Adolis García hit the IL with a strained patellar tendon, though he’s expected to be back on the field before the season ends if everything goes well.
| Team | Record | “Luck” | wRC+ | SP- | RP- | RAA | Team Quality | Playoff Odds |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Orioles | 90-52 | 8 | 107 | 98 | 83 | -9 | 122 | 100.0% |
| Astros | 82-62 | -2 | 112 | 102 | 95 | 3 | 129 | 98.7% |
| Phillies | 78-64 | 0 | 107 | 90 | 90 | -8 | 131 | 96.1% |
| Cubs | 77-67 | -5 | 103 | 96 | 91 | 12 | 133 | 85.6% |
I understand: It’s weird that the Orioles, the team with the best record in the AL, sit behind four other teams in their league and in the third tier in these rankings. But no matter how you slice it — base runs, pythagorean record, or this team quality metric — they’re continuing to outperform their underlying stats by significant margins. Yes, they just rattled off a seven-game win streak that was finally broken on Sunday; yes, they’re getting contributions from all over their roster right now; and yes, they’ve barely skipped a beat since losing Félix Bautista a few weeks ago. But on paper, they’re not as strong as some of the other teams in the AL playoff picture, even if they’ll probably end up with the top seed and a first-round bye when the playoffs officially start.
Surprise, Trea Turner hit another home run on Sunday, his ninth over his last ten games. Unfortunately, the Phillies lost that game and the series to the Marlins. They’re still 4.5 games ahead of Miami and in control of the top Wild Card spot in the NL, but their schedule gets tough over the next two weeks; they won’t have an off day until the final week of the season, and they play the Braves seven times over the next ten days.
| Team | Record | “Luck” | wRC+ | SP- | RP- | RAA | Team Quality | Playoff Odds |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Twins | 75-68 | -4 | 106 | 87 | 98 | -6 | 123 | 99.6% |
| Brewers | 79-63 | 4 | 89 | 94 | 91 | 24 | 114 | 98.6% |
| Diamondbacks | 75-69 | 4 | 99 | 100 | 103 | 24 | 109 | 42.8% |
| Giants | 73-70 | 2 | 95 | 98 | 94 | 10 | 111 | 31.7% |
The Twins stood pat at the trade deadline, banking on the already assembled talent on their roster rather than trying to find marginal upgrades at the cost of future value. Their gamble has largely paid off, as they lead the AL Central by 7.5 games and have easily weathered a last-minute rally by the Guardians. The man leading the charge on offense has been oft-injured former top prospect Royce Lewis. He blasted three grand slams in an eight-game span and has been on fire since returning from an oblique strain in mid-August with a 170 wRC+.
In the midst of battling for an NL Wild Card berth, the Diamondbacks called up their top prospect, shortstop Jordan Lawlar, on Thursday. They’re hoping that infusion of youth can give them the boost they need to secure a playoff spot. While he collected just a single hit over his first three games, Arizona won a critical four-game series against the Cubs over the weekend. Those two teams will battle again this weekend in another three-game series.
| Team | Record | “Luck” | wRC+ | SP- | RP- | RAA | Team Quality | Playoff Odds |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yankees | 71-72 | 2 | 93 | 105 | 86 | 6 | 95 | 0.1% |
| Red Sox | 73-70 | 0 | 103 | 106 | 98 | -40 | 71 | 1.1% |
| Guardians | 68-76 | 0 | 90 | 96 | 94 | 11 | 100 | 0.3% |
| Padres | 67-77 | -11 | 106 | 92 | 99 | 20 | 142 | 0.1% |
| Marlins | 74-69 | 7 | 93 | 97 | 99 | -14 | 70 | 31.1% |
| Angels | 67-77 | 1 | 103 | 105 | 112 | -6 | 72 | 0.0% |
| Reds | 74-71 | 5 | 96 | 109 | 94 | -21 | 66 | 13.9% |
In a disappointing turn of events, Yankees top prospect Jasson Domínguez tore his UCL and will require Tommy John surgery. The recovery period for position players is significantly shorter than for pitchers, as Bryce Harper proved this year, but it still cuts short a promising start to his big league career.
The Marlins have won eight of their last 10 games, including series wins against the Dogders and Phillies, to stay hot on the heels of the Diamondbacks in the NL Wild Card race. Unfortunately, they’ll be making their postseason push without Sandy Alcantara and Jorge Soler, who were both placed on the IL last week. There’s no clear timeline for either, but it’s certainly possible they’ve both played their final innings this season. Those are some pretty significant hurdles Miami will have to overcome to continue playing baseball in October.
| Team | Record | wRC+ | SP- | RP- | RAA | Team Quality | Playoff Odds | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mets | 65-77 | -2 | 101 | 103 | 111 | -6 | 72 | 0.0% |
| Cardinals | 63-80 | -2 | 107 | 111 | 104 | -4 | 93 | 0.0% |
| Pirates | 66-77 | 4 | 88 | 106 | 96 | 5 | 71 | 0.0% |
| Tigers | 66-77 | 6 | 86 | 100 | 100 | -2 | 65 | 0.1% |
| Nationals | 64-79 | 5 | 93 | 113 | 115 | 2 | 51 | 0.0% |
Things haven’t gone very well on the field for the Nationals, though probably better than expected since there’s a shot they’ll wind up ahead of the Mets in the NL East standings by the end of the season. It makes things all the more frustrating when off-field events reflect poorly on the organization on top of all the losing. That’s what happened last week, when a retirement ceremony for Stephen Strasburg was walked back by the team with the details apparently still being worked out. It was a bad look for the organization and a poor way to treat the superstar pitcher who almost literally gave his arm to win a World Series back in 2019.
| Team | Record | wRC+ | SP- | RP- | RAA | Team Quality | Playoff Odds | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Royals | 44-100 | -10 | 84 | 113 | 114 | 19 | 46 | 0.0% |
| Rockies | 51-91 | -1 | 76 | 120 | 105 | -6 | 23 | 0.0% |
| White Sox | 55-88 | -1 | 84 | 110 | 109 | -13 | 21 | 0.0% |
| Athletics | 44-99 | 1 | 90 | 131 | 122 | -13 | 21 | 0.0% |
After a sweep by the Blue Jays over the weekend, the Royals entered play on Monday with the worst record in baseball. Somehow, they’ve slipped behind Oakland with just eight wins under their belt since August 5. Thankfully, there are a few positive signs as the season winds down. Cole Ragans had a 26-inning scoreless streak snapped on Sunday, and in a particularly odd manner, too. He’s been dominant for Kansas City since coming over in the Aroldis Chapman trade and looks like a key building block.
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| Rank | Team | Record | “Luck” | wRC+ | SP- | RP- | RAA | Team Quality | Playoff Odds | Δ |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Braves | 93-49 | 1 | 124 | 92 | 84 | -5 | 167 | 100.0% | 0 |
| 2 | Rays | 88-56 | -3 | 117 | 87 | 95 | 9 | 165 | 100.0% | 0 |
| 3 | Dodgers | 87-55 | 1 | 118 | 102 | 89 | 5 | 149 | 100.0% | 1 |
| 4 | Blue Jays | 80-63 | 0 | 108 | 90 | 85 | 2 | 158 | 79.1% | 3 |
| 5 | Mariners | 79-64 | -3 | 108 | 91 | 91 | 9 | 157 | 69.4% | -2 |
| 6 | Rangers | 78-64 | -6 | 114 | 92 | 108 | 12 | 153 | 51.5% | -1 |
| 7 | Orioles | 90-52 | 8 | 107 | 98 | 83 | -9 | 122 | 100.0% | -1 |
| 8 | Astros | 82-62 | -2 | 112 | 102 | 95 | 3 | 129 | 98.7% | 1 |
| 9 | Phillies | 78-64 | 0 | 107 | 90 | 90 | -8 | 131 | 96.1% | -1 |
| 10 | Cubs | 77-67 | -5 | 103 | 96 | 91 | 12 | 133 | 85.6% | 0 |
| 11 | Twins | 75-68 | -4 | 106 | 87 | 98 | -6 | 123 | 99.6% | 1 |
| 12 | Brewers | 79-63 | 4 | 89 | 94 | 91 | 24 | 114 | 98.6% | -1 |
| 13 | Diamondbacks | 75-69 | 4 | 99 | 100 | 103 | 24 | 109 | 42.8% | 1 |
| 14 | Giants | 73-70 | 2 | 95 | 98 | 94 | 10 | 111 | 31.7% | -1 |
| 15 | Yankees | 71-72 | 2 | 93 | 105 | 86 | 6 | 95 | 0.1% | 0 |
| 16 | Red Sox | 73-70 | 0 | 103 | 106 | 98 | -40 | 71 | 1.1% | 0 |
| 17 | Guardians | 68-76 | 0 | 90 | 96 | 94 | 11 | 100 | 0.3% | 1 |
| 18 | Padres | 67-77 | -11 | 106 | 92 | 99 | 20 | 142 | 0.1% | -1 |
| 19 | Marlins | 74-69 | 7 | 93 | 97 | 99 | -14 | 70 | 31.1% | 0 |
| 20 | Angels | 67-77 | 1 | 103 | 105 | 112 | -6 | 72 | 0.0% | 1 |
| 21 | Reds | 74-71 | 5 | 96 | 109 | 94 | -21 | 66 | 13.9% | -1 |
| 22 | Mets | 65-77 | -2 | 101 | 103 | 111 | -6 | 72 | 0.0% | 1 |
| 23 | Cardinals | 63-80 | -2 | 107 | 111 | 104 | -4 | 93 | 0.0% | -1 |
| 24 | Pirates | 66-77 | 4 | 88 | 106 | 96 | 5 | 71 | 0.0% | 0 |
| 25 | Tigers | 66-77 | 6 | 86 | 100 | 100 | -2 | 65 | 0.1% | 0 |
| 26 | Nationals | 64-79 | 5 | 93 | 113 | 115 | 2 | 51 | 0.0% | 0 |
| 27 | Royals | 44-100 | -10 | 84 | 113 | 114 | 19 | 46 | 0.0% | 0 |
| 28 | Rockies | 51-91 | -1 | 76 | 120 | 105 | -6 | 23 | 0.0% | 0 |
| 29 | White Sox | 55-88 | -1 | 84 | 110 | 109 | -13 | 21 | 0.0% | 0 |
| 30 | Athletics | 44-99 | 1 | 90 | 131 | 122 | -13 | 21 | 0.0% | 0 |
Jake Mailhot is a contributor to FanGraphs. A long-suffering Mariners fan, he also writes about them for Lookout Landing. Follow him on BlueSky @jakemailhot.
lol
Orioles are 41-17 since the 4th of July. But yes the Rays are definitely two tiers above them. Makes sense!
someone needs a fresh diaper
No, the rest of the league is just suffering from massive denial and needs a REALITY CHECK. And those who don’t watch our games have no idea how good we are at every facet of the game (which is NOT played “on paper”)
If the Orioles are being moved down to be more in line with their underlying metrics and not their record, why aren’t the Padres being moved up?
I guess I just don’t get what importance we’re supposed to place on the “team quality” metric.
The Padres HAVE been moved up. It’s why they’re ranked 18th instead of 21st.
Their “team quality” score of 142 is the 7th best score so his point still stands
lol. lmao
The rules are that it matters unless it doesn’t. How do you not get the logic?
I’m kind of hoping for an overhaul of the power rankings for next year.
I have given up. There are so many ways to do this better, but no one can even figure out what this is supposed to show.
It really is a weird article to continue every week after the overwhelming response has been “What the hell is this?”
They keep doing it because we keep clicking on it. But it really would be better if they had a clear sense of what this was supposed to show (as well as a methodology that was appropriate to get there)
The Red Sox are my current favorite. They’re 73-70, PythagenPat thinks they should be 73-70, BaseRuns thinks they should be 70-73. No matter which you like they’re a .500ish team. Yet they get a “Team Quality” of 71?
It’s just broken. Seems likely that “team quality” is way over-weighting RAA, but who can say for sure.
You don’t? You must be overthinking the issue.
You’re supposed to place absolutely no importance – none, nada, zip, zilch, zero importance – on the “team quality” metric. And even less on this weekly exercise in silliness.
I read it every now and then for a laugh. It’s sort of like the take Beetlejuice had on “The Exorcist.” It gets funnier every time I see it.
Please stop with the “team quality” metric. Please.
So Houston is 2 tiers below Tampa Bay even though the Astros are clearly better according to playoff odds. I guess that means the Rays will have the best regular season by underlying metrics in the AL, whereas the Astros are the best AL team right now. Add Verlander and get Alvarez and Altuve healthy, while the other team loses Franco, Springs, Rasmussen and McClanahan does that I guess
the playoff odds aren’t a perfect reflection of team quality
I’m not saying it’s wrong. I’m saying it measures something that isn’t either actual results nor perceived team quality right now
Rotation of Glasnow, Eflin, and Civale to match up with any other top 3 in the postseason. Reconfigured a league-worst bullpen to one of the best, and maintained a top-3 offense by wRC+. Their depth has been tested through the year with the big injuries and Wander situation, and all they’ve done is keep winning — and yes, let’s not forget they have the best run differential in the AL.
No idea what you mean “clearly better according to playoff odds”, both are basically locks to make the postseason but Houston has better WS odds because at this point they’re positioned for a first-round bye.
I mean odds to Win WS adjusted for odds to make ALDS
Astros have also recently gotten Michael Brantley back and he’s looked great(.972 OPS).
Their only current weaknesses are starting pitching outside of Valdez/Verlander and Dusty Baker’s bizarre lineup configurations. He keeps Yanier Diaz and Chas McCormick on the bench too often in favor of Maldonado, Abreu, and Dubon
The Astros 1-9 when Dusty obliges, have the best lineup in the AL. They have the highest wRC+ after the All star break and Altuve/Brantley/Alvarez are in the lineup going forward. 1. Altuve 2. Pena 3. Alavarez 4. Bregman 5. Tucker 6.Abreu 7 Brantley 8. McCormick. 9. Diaz. They might win on the strength of offense when the opposite was true last year.
Just looking at that lineup is raising my testosterone levels. Unfortunately the key phrase in your post is “when Dusty obliges”.
Valdez and Verlander are caught exclusively by Maldonado so we won’t see that stacked lineup when they pitch this postseason. Verlander being a flyball pitcher might also inspire Dusty to put Dubon/Meyers in CF over McCormick as he customarily has this year.
(1)Altuve (2)Alvarez (3)Bregman (4)Tucker (5)McCormick (6)Brantley (7)Diaz (8)Abreu (9)Pena
I’d like to see us try this alignment. Pena has been hot lately and was amazing from the 2nd spot in last year’s playoffs but his HR swing has abandoned him this year. I don’t like seeing him getting more ABs then our proven studs in the playoffs
So how much of team quality applies to the whole season as opposed to the now? For instance does the Rays team quality include Wander Franco and all their injured pitchers or is it just the players on the team going forward? Does the Astros team quality include just partial seasons of Altuve/Alvarez/Verlander or do they just assume all 3 are healthy for the rest of the season? I feel like the number suggest it encompass the whole season of productivity. But I’d argue that when it comes to Power Rankings, it should look at the team quality as of this instance.
My understanding is that team quality is based on the whole season. So yes, Franco’s contributions are included in the Rays’ Team Quality score.
Ok, so that matches up with what I’m thinking. I feel like this is kinda pointless to have this for Power Rankings. For instance if the Rays and the Orioles played today, does anyone believe that the Rays are prohibitive favorites because their Team Quality edge is 165:122? Of course not. The Orioles have been better as the season went one (most of their lucky wins came early in the year) and the Rays roster have been depleted during the course of the season. At best we’re looking at a toss-up in terms of predictions.
Yep, this power rankings assumes McLanahan and Franco are still here. They are not. While the Bautista injury sucks for the Birds, it’s nothing compared to the devastating losses that the Rays have suffered.
It’s a games-to-date metric.
It is strange that the Orioles have the best record, the Astros have the best team now, but the Rays are 2 tiers above them and they’re even behind Texas and Seattle
What’s even stranger is that Toronto which has a record of 38-42 vs teams over .500 is somehow considered better than the Orioles who are 46-33 and dominated the Blue Jays head-to-head. The Orioles also have the best record since the All-Start break.
Oh look, the Jays lost 10-3 to a team over .500 yesterday. Who would have thunk it?
Oh look again, Toronto was, predictably, swept by a team with a record of over .500. When will people learn this team just isn’t that great?
The problem is that what this series is trying to measure is completely undefined. To me, a power ranking is how dangerous the team is right now (which you could project based on the roster projected to play over the next two weeks) or who has been killing it lately (which you could get with BaseRuns, weighting the last couple weeks by like 2 or 3x the rest or something). This is more like BaseRuns record for the whole year except it is worse at it, and so sometimes the team quality metric gets totally ignored and not explained.
team quality is unaffected by the number of rapists on your payroll
Phillies have an off-day on Thursday
Yankees are 15th despite being under .500 and being +2 in the luck department and ahead of the Red Sox and other better teams because?
Because they don’t walk to school OR carry their lunch.
When I read “But on paper” I lost my morning brew. Will performance on the field ever mean anything to some of these nerds?. It strikes me as bizarre that what is “on paper” should carry more weight than what I KNOW I see. A team that is winning a lot more games than the Rangers are. It isn’t really even very close, but with this same bizarre reasoning??? this doesn’t conform to the writers locked in opinion of what “should” be the case instead of what ‘is” the case. “But on Paper”, actually seen in print, is now my new favorite line when reality is maligned.
On paper is strange, but what you “KNOW” you see isn’t always correct either, in fact it is almost ALWAYS incorrect. Not just for you, but for scouts who have been using the “eye test” instead of analytics for years. For example, Rizzo and the Nationals weighted eye test more heavily than analytics in drafting, pretty much abysmally, over the past 10 years. (Elijah Greene anyone? Eric Fedde? and more).
I do think Fangraphs should adjust these weights to lean more on recent performance because they are so out of balance with on-field performance, but they go 100% analytics, so you will get weird results like the Orioles being in the third tier of these rankings.
In this case I KNOW that the Orioles are a better team than the Rangers. That is certainly not always the situation. I THOUGHT the Mets were going to very good this season but never had any indication after the season started that they were going to fulfill my expectations. After 140 games it is not unreasonable to begin to make comments that would have been premature earlier in the season which is why i lost it when I saw the Rangers, playing in the weaker AL West being ranked ahead of the Orioles who have to confront a higher percentage of strong teams in the AL East.
If they went 100% analytics the Padres would be higher.
Also, keep in mind that the term “on paper” also refers to roster developments that significantly affect more recent team strength and team strength going forward, such as players being out for the rest of the season, players recovering from injuries (IL stint or not), trade acquisitions, rookie callups performing well, etc.
Is there something you’re seeing that couldn’t be put on paper? You’re sighting wins – is that not something that doesn’t apply to the phrase “on paper”?
How about performance on the field? I would hope that can be reflected”on paper”. I get that analytics may look at underlying metrics that alter our perceptions, but I’m not quite sure that “on paper” needs to mean anything different than what you see on the field.
Same point has been driving me crazy since I found this website.
Just curious, if a team such as the Orioles manages to outperform the “underlying metrics” by such a wide margin over the course of a 162 game sample-size, doesn’t that indicate that perhaps there is something off about the “underlying metrics?” Such a large sample size obviously negates any fluctuations based on “luck.”
You could argue on a 1-year basis whether that is correct. I was more amused when the Orioles blew the “underlying metrics” out of the water by a wide margin year after year in the 2012-2016 period, which did clearly indicate a model deficiency, yet the question always came down to what is weird about the Orioles, not what is the model missing.
And then in 2017 when all of the sudden they weren’t overperforming there were claims of victory for the model. LOL
The thing is they actually have not. They were wildly outperforming their metrics for the first couple of months but that trend has since stopped. But they haven’t reverted back the opposite direction which is why their season long stats still suggest they’re very lucky (which is indeed true). But their underlying numbers in recent months are much more inline with their record.
You are reading my mind. I have followed baseball very closely for more than 70 years and have been in the forefront of accepting statistical driven analysis since the days of Earnshaw Cook. I have followed Bill James since he first published his treatise. The real problem was too many Pinky Higgins running operations at too many teams. My beef is not with sabermetrics but with the disdain that some of the true believers have for traditional measures of ability. The pendulum has swung too far in the that direction. I didn’t need stats to tell me that Mark Belanger is still the best SS I have ever seen, 4 years of +4 defensive WAR while Ozzie only had 1, or that Willie Mays was a true 80 in every category. I have trouble with WAR putting individual achievement as the only metric and ignoring the fact that baseball is still a team game. How else can they defend penalizing a DH for not playing defense. He is not hurting the team in any way whatsoever! That is so egregious that the equally terrible 1st base penalty pales in comparison. An accomplished 1st baseman is of great value. He still has to show range, handle hot smashes and, this is absolutely comical, gets no credit for picking errant throws because somebody decreed that skill to not be a skill at all but just a random act. This season reminds me of the song played when Cornwallis surrendered at Yorktown. it was “The World Turned Upside Down.” How many of the projections had the Orioles on top and the Padres, Mets, Cardinals and Yankees looking up from far below? .
I think just about everyone, regardless of their weighting on the analytics/observational spectrum, didn’t have all of the Padres, Mets, Cardinals, and Yankees looking up from the more-or-less bottom.
Some of us haven’t even been alive 70 years yet, so we take what we know now and apply it to the information we have historically.
I’m not a fan of the positional adjustments — strictly as they exist in both versions of WAR — but there is a validity to them. I think a good measurement going forward would be to look at what positions players who play DH play since we have universal DH now. It’s something I haven’t had a chance yet to dig into, because I’d be curious how it maps out to our conception of the defensive spectrum.
I’m also out here holding out hope that we can get a first baseman recieving metric based on the difficulty of the throws using Statcast data. I feel like the data’s in there, it just needs to be massaged out.
The problem is that anything that could be added to explain this (as an additional underlying metric) tends to make the model worse or add nothing at all. Whether that means we haven’t found it yet or if it really is all luck, we don’t know.
Not, and I say this as an Orioles fan, necessarily. This very site answered this question nearly a decade ago, also about the *checks notes* Baltimore Orioles: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-orioles-and-accepting-random-variation/
Ahh, I’d been looking for that one for awhile now.
Or that baseball teams need a lot more than 162 games to determine their actual skill level. Which is likely the case.
as Hank Hill would say, this team quality stuff is asinine
Except he would say it about charcoal and hippies
and bunting aka lawyer ball
“Disappointing turn of events” is the title card for the Yankees 2023 season.
Yes but this is really bad. Debilitating injuries are worse than routine injuries and underperformance.
Oh, no doubt. Volpe and Torres are standing around kinda like Strawberry at the end of “Homer at the Bat”.
Mr Burns: “Mattingly, get rid of those sideburns!”
Don Mattingly: “What sideburns?”
Mr Burns: “You heard me, hippie”
😂
So I guess this is an “on-paper” exercise, after all?
By definition.
I’d like to see why we should treat his rankings as credible. I hope he’s run them against past seasons outcomes and compared against other types of ranking systems.
No matter what, it’s a fun thing to think about.
I’m sorry but Rangers on cusp of greatness and Brewers in the melee? What games are we watching here? One team is 99% in the playoffs, the other is a coin flip.
Not speaking about how these two teams compare specifically, but I wouldn’t use playoff odds as evidence of team goodness or badness. The Twins are a near-lock at making the playoffs, but transport them with the same team, same record into the AL West and they’re out of the playoffs entirely.
And yet the Twins have a better BaseRuns record than all of the Blue Jays, Orioles, and Astros, so it’s hardly a miscarriage of justice that they’re going to make the playoffs.
Oh for sure – I wasn’t intending to denigrate Minnesota, just saying that if you plopped a team with their exact record into the AL West it would be on the outside of the playoff picture looking in at the moment.
Please stop pretending injuries are not a thing. These are not the same teams as the start of the season. Using solely their cumulative stats is not helpful. The Rays have lost their best pitcher and their best hitter for the year, as well as many other pieces. It doesn’t matter how awesome they’ve been, because those guys aren’t coming back this year.
He might of been their best player, but certainly not best hitter. Unless you meant that as best position player.
Sorry, I meant best position player.
FanGraphs has been wrong about the Orioles EVERY single month this entire season… Why change now? Keep predicting the Orioles downfall – eventually you will be right!!
In about 2032.
Blue Jays suck but so do the Orioles but so do the yankees lmao
#everyonesucks
Every time I eagerly await this thread expecting certain teams to finally get respect. Yet every week the Rockies drag along the sea floor of the rankings. Do they get no credit for the party deck? For the sheer altitude of their play? For the sunshine and the views of the mountains? Are we supposed to forget all that and instead focus solely on whether they win or lose? What has baseball become?
They can’t see the forrest for the trees!
Jake,
Can you provide a historical analysis of your power rankings vs season outcomes?
If possible, end of season and mid season? And maybe an analysis of deviation from power ranking from outcome?
I’m new here, dunno if I”m asking what’s already been asked a million times; catnip for stat heads; a big pain in the ass; or some combo.
Alan
Well, what we do know the most likely WS is the AL West vs. the NL East for what would be the 3rd time in 4 Years.
The whole point of a “power ranking” is to qualify who “right now” is playing the best baseball. Weights might be different between different rankings, but by definition, recent play and current roster construction is supposed to be weighted more heavily than older data.
Fangraphs model for power rankings completely ignore this essential aspect and are therefore worthless as “power rankings.” These rankings are not factoring in injuries to key players or changes in performance quality over the course the season to the degree that they should.
The Orioles are a MUCH better team right now than they were in April. The Rays are much worse off than they were in April. The Orioles have the third best run differential in the American League and have been getting better as the season rolls on while the two teams above them in run differential have had major injuries or legal problems with key players and have not been playing nearly as well in the second half.
Fangraphs power ranking formula is demonstrably broken and needs a huge overhaul to be of any value.
“to be of any value” – I dunno, if the value prospect of these rankings is driving clicks, engagement, and general outrage then it has huuuuuge value!
This is my favorite recurring piece on Fangraphs. Please continue!