Gleyber Torres Will Make a Pit Stop In Detroit

Gleyber Torres is changing his stripes, so to speak. After seven seasons as a regular on the Yankees’ middle infield, the 28-year-old has agreed to a one-year, $15 million deal with the Tigers. The move fortifies the middle infield of a team fresh off its first postseason appearance in a decade while also creating an opportunity for an enigmatic player to secure a much larger deal while still in his 20s.
Acquired from the Cubs ahead of the 2016 trade deadline as part of a four-prospect package in exchange for Aroldis Chapman, Torres has spent the past seven seasons as a mainstay of the Yankees’ middle infield, playing the last three as their regular second baseman after bouncing back and forth between shortstop and second in his first four seasons. He made the American League All-Star team in both 2018 and ’19, finishing third in the AL Rookie of the Year balloting in the former year and getting a bit of down-ballot MVP support in the latter, during which he clubbed 38 homers and hit for a 125 wRC+, neither of which he’s been able to replicate.
In 2023, Torres set a career high in WAR (3.6) while posting his highest wRC+ (120) and home run total (25) since ’19, but his ’24 season was an uneven one. His final numbers were unremarkable (.257/.330/.378, 104 wRC+), and he was briefly benched twice for a lack of hustle, but he dug himself out of a deep, early slump to nose his way across the league average line. He was at his best late in the year, a top-of-the-lineup catalyst who helped the Yankees reach their first World Series since 2009.
After ranking second on the team with a .347 on-base percentage in 2023, Torres began the ’24 season as the Yankees’ leadoff hitter, but he lasted just 12 games before being dropped in the order, first to sixth, and then to seventh. He hit just .220/.295/.254 (62 wRC+) through the end of April, didn’t homer for the first time until May 2, and carried a .231/.307/.347 line with eight homers and an 88 wRC+ through the first half. Over the All-Star break, he shored up his swing at a Tampa hitting facility that he co-owns with former teammate Gio Urshela, where he worked on elevating the ball and hitting to the opposite field with greater frequency. Statcast’s bat tracking data tells us he shortened his swing slightly, added a bit of bat speed, and tapped into his fast swing more frequently. His squared-up and blast rates both improved, the former from 23.8% to 28.8%, the latter from 6.7% to 9.8%.
Torres hit .292/.361/.419 (124 wRC+) in the second half while cutting his strikeout rate from 22.6% to 17.5%, and thrived upon being restored to the leadoff role. From August 16 onward — the point when he returned to the leadoff spot for good — he hit .313/.386/.454; his 142 wRC+ in that span surpassed even teammate Juan Soto, who picked the wrong time to slump (.229/.361/.429, 128 wRC+) for the purposes of this comparison. Torres carried that momentum into October, batting .297/.400/.432 through the Division Series against the Royals and the ALCS against the Guardians and reaching base in each of the Yankees’ first 13 postseason games. He was particularly adept at getting on base ahead of Soto and Aaron Judge in the first inning, doing so in eight out of nine games through those two series. In the World Series, the Dodgers held him to a 5-for-26 showing with just two times on base in the first inning — but then they stifled just about every Yankees hitter in that five-game romp.
In reaching free agency, Torres faced two problems. First, his annual performances have varied so much that it’s been hard to know what to expect from year to year. He’s an above-average producer when he’s hitting 20-plus homers, but he totaled just 15 last year and nine in 2021, when he set full-season lows with a 96 wRC+ and 1.4 WAR. Shifting from second base to shortstop led him to shed weight and power in the name of improved agility, and caused him to press at the plate as his offense declined. While Torres has developed into an especially disciplined hitter — his 22.4% chase rate set a full-season low and placed in the 92nd percentile — his contact stats have declined to below average:
| Season | EV | EV Percentile | Barrel% | Barrel Percentile | HardHit% | HardHit Percentile |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2018 | 88.9 | 68 | 9.2% | 68 | 36.8% | 45 |
| 2019 | 89.1 | 70 | 9.4% | 70 | 36.8% | 38 |
| 2020 | 88.6 | 13 | 3.7% | 13 | 38.0% | 42 |
| 2021 | 87.1 | 43 | 7.8% | 43 | 35.7% | 26 |
| 2022 | 90.4 | 75 | 10.7% | 75 | 44.9% | 77 |
| 2023 | 89.7 | 44 | 7.9% | 44 | 40.3% | 47 |
| 2024 | 88.6 | 32 | 6.3% | 32 | 35.4% | 23 |
| Thru 8/15/24 | 88.2 | 6.7% | 34.5% | |||
| From 8/16/24 | 89.4 | 5.3% | 37.4% |
Peeking inside his in-season improvement, though Torres’ exit velocity and hard-hit rates improved only modestly over the season’s final six weeks, and his barrel rate actually fell, he cut down on his rate of poor contact (balls he got under, topped, or hit weakly). Where he underperformed slightly relative to his expected stats before mid-August, he overperformed thereafter:
| Split | EV | Brl% | HH% | Poor% | AVG | xBA | SLG | xSLG | wOBA | xwOBA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Through 8/15/24 | 87.8 | 6.7% | 34.5% | 61.0% | .236 | .230 | .349 | .359 | .292 | .298 |
| After 8/15/24 | 89.4 | 5.3% | 37.4% | 57.3% | .313 | .266 | .454 | .392 | .367 | .329 |
Second, Torres has a tendency to give back runs on the basepaths and in the field, cutting into his value. He’s been eight runs below average on the bases over the past three seasons; his -4.6 runs was the majors’ sixth-lowest mark in 2024, and he was thrown out at the plate six times, tied with Yandy Díaz for the majors’ highest mark. Meanwhile, his past two years’ fielding metrics have been increasingly worrisome (-15 DRS, -8.1 UZR, -8 FRV), with his 2024 marks (-11 DRS and -5 FRV) both among the bottom three at his position. Together, his fielding and baserunning limited him to just 1.7 WAR in 2024.
One can understand why Torres and his agents might not have viewed this winter as his best chance to land a big-dollar, long-term deal, particularly with comparatively few contenders in the market for help at the keystone. Hence the one-year deal, which even given a stronger-than-expected free agent market — and even without the drag of a qualifying offer in Torres’ case — came in at $3 million less than the average annual value projected by both Ben Clemens and our median crowdsource for our Top 50 Free Agents list.
The Tigers, who went 86-76 — their first time above .500 since 2016 and their first time in the playoffs since ’14 — got a relatively robust 3.5 WAR out of their second basemen, with rookie Colt Keith making 125 starts there, Andy Ibáñez 24, Zack McKinstry 11, and Buddy Kennedy two. Keith, who entered the season ranked 46th on our Top 100 Prospects list, hit .260/.309/.380 (97 wRC+) with 13 homers and seven stolen bases in a very uneven season during which he posted a wRC+ of 152 or higher in May and July, and 87 or lower in the other four months, including just an 11 wRC+ in March/April. His defense was a mixed bag at best; graded as a 30 fielder on the 20-80 scouting scale entering the season due to his bulk, limited range, and stiff actions, he was eight runs below average according to DRS, but one above average via Statcast.
Per MLB.com’s Jason Beck, president of baseball operations Scott Harris said that the Tigers plan to play Torres at second and move the 23-year-old Keith to first base, where the team had already advised him to take groundballs this winter. As for what that means for 25-year-old Spencer Torkelson, the top pick of the 2020 draft, he’ll have to compete for time at first base and designated hitter. While Torkelson has shown intermittent signs of putting it together over the course of the past three seasons, he hit just .219/.295/.374 (92 wRC+) with 10 homers in 92 games, and earned a demotion to Triple-A Toledo for the second year out of three. This time, he was sent down in early June, returned in mid-August, and hit a respectable .248/.338/.444 (125 wRC+) with six homers in 151 PA the rest of the way. This move does not appear to be a vote of confidence in him sustaining that level of production.
With Kerry Carpenter vying for DH time as well, it’s still not entirely clear how manager A.J. Hinch will piece all of this together, but the Tigers have time to figure it out. As for Torres, ZiPS projects him for a 108 OPS+ and 2.5 WAR in 2025, a solid step up from what he provided this season. Here’s a look at his percentile projections, courtesy of Dan Szymborski:
| Percentile | 2B | HR | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS+ | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 95% | 39 | 29 | .307 | .387 | .508 | 149 | 5.5 |
| 90% | 37 | 26 | .297 | .375 | .479 | 137 | 4.6 |
| 80% | 33 | 22 | .284 | .361 | .449 | 125 | 3.9 |
| 70% | 31 | 20 | .275 | .352 | .431 | 120 | 3.4 |
| 60% | 29 | 19 | .267 | .343 | .417 | 114 | 3.0 |
| 50% | 27 | 17 | .260 | .336 | .402 | 108 | 2.5 |
| 40% | 25 | 16 | .253 | .327 | .392 | 103 | 2.1 |
| 30% | 24 | 14 | .245 | .320 | .379 | 98 | 1.6 |
| 20% | 22 | 13 | .235 | .309 | .364 | 89 | 1.1 |
| 10% | 20 | 11 | .220 | .294 | .338 | 83 | 0.5 |
| 5% | 18 | 9 | .212 | .284 | .322 | 75 | 0.0 |
And here’s what his current multiyear projection looks like:
| Year | BA | OBP | SLG | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | OPS+ | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2025 | .260 | .336 | .402 | 565 | 76 | 147 | 27 | 1 | 17 | 62 | 64 | 114 | 8 | 108 | 2.5 |
| 2026 | .256 | .331 | .393 | 555 | 73 | 142 | 26 | 1 | 16 | 60 | 62 | 111 | 7 | 105 | 2.1 |
| 2027 | .253 | .328 | .386 | 538 | 69 | 136 | 25 | 1 | 15 | 57 | 60 | 108 | 6 | 102 | 1.8 |
| 2028 | .250 | .325 | .382 | 513 | 65 | 128 | 24 | 1 | 14 | 52 | 57 | 103 | 5 | 100 | 1.5 |
| 2029 | .244 | .319 | .372 | 462 | 56 | 113 | 21 | 1 | 12 | 46 | 51 | 95 | 4 | 96 | 1.0 |
Pick the length of the desired deal and ZiPS has a suggestion for the value of the contract based on that projection: one year and $21 million, two years and $39 million, three years and $54 million, four years and $66 million, or five years and $72 million. Though Torres did accept less than the recommendation for a one-year deal, all of those values are probably well below where he and his camp hoped to come in. If this is a pillow contract, it’s not one of those big cushiony ones.
As for the Yankees, their $303.2 million tax payroll according to RosterResource already places them slightly above the fourth-tier threshold ($301 million), meaning that they’ll pay a significant premium on whoever they add to fill a vacancy either at second or third base, depending upon where Jazz Chisholm Jr. winds up. Per our Depth Charts (which are based only on Steamer at this point), the going-on-27-year-old Chisholm projects to out-produce Torres (3.5 WAR to 3.0), but unless the Yankees can free up some tax space by trading Marcus Stroman, a big-money addition such as Nolan Arenado (who did not include the Yankees on his six-team no-trade list) seems unlikely.
The Yankees may wind up missing Torres more than they realize, but it’s clear they only valued him so highly, and never appeared particularly compelled to extend his contract; that extensions for the likes of Luis Severino and Aaron Hicks went south may have contributed to that skittishness. Torres is an imperfect player, but the chance that his late-season improvement carries over into 2025 nonetheless makes this signing a worthwhile short-term move for a Tigers team that intends to contend.
Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.
This seems like a really good deal for Detroit. 1 yr, $15M is about as good a price as you can get for a starting middle infielder. Most had Torres at 2-3 years for a higher AAV.
The Urshela connection with Torres is interesting. Urshela played for Detroit last year & under Scott Harris, they’ve started doing a good job unlocking skills in position players. Really have seen it more in the minors, but, guys like Parker Meadows, Kerry Carpenter, Carson Kelly, etc. have improved under this regime. Wonder if that played a part in Torres taking this pillow deal vs somewhere else.
As for Detroit- If Keith can handle 1B & improve his hitting in his 2nd year, this will be an upgrade.
They couldn’t just hand the 1B job to Torkelson. While he DID hit better when he came back last August, a fair amount of that was an unsustainable BABIP. He is also a mediocre, at best 1B. Hard to see a short side platoon 1B/DH only holding a bench spot with today’s short benches.
Now they need to figure out SS or 3B. Still rumors of Bregman, which I think would be a poor fit due Comerica Park’s dimensions & how he hits the ball. Maybe HSK?
Bregman would be a pretty bad fit for them. They need to see if Jung can handle third base, Detroit’s dimensions are awful for Bregman, and Bregman is almost certainly on the downslope of his career. They would be better off going for Kim, Profar, or Santander for no other reason than the downside risk is lower and it wouldn’t block Jung.
Yeah Torkelson needs to hit at least 110 wRC+ to be worth a roster spot. Bad defense, bad base running so he’s got to hit.
But that is also what Gleyber is. An average hitter with poor defence and poor base running skills . And to top it off he is lazy and tries when the mood strikes him. As a Yankee fan I would never have given him 15 million. Or signed him period.
Gleyber’s an above average hitter with poor middle infield defense and dumb baserunning.
So, y’know, nothing like Tork.
Meanwhile…the Yankees will pay DJ LeMahieu exactly as much as Torres is getting, this year.
Internet commenters calling professional athletes lazy is just incredibly stupid
??? But Gleyber is lazy. How many times have we seen clips where he is not running full out. I’ve been watching the Yankees closely for 60 years. I support most players. I’m a positive guy….but Gleyber is lazy.
What about Verdugo? Lol
No, you’re just an angry fan throwing an ad hominem attack at a player because he underperformed your expectations. You have no basis for calling him lazy other than your own perception of his effort on the basepaths, which is about as subjective as you can get.
It’s not an ad hominem attack. “You’re just an angry fan” is an ad hominem attack. He’s trying to evaluate a player’s effort, which is ok here. I don’t agree with him but it isn’t out of bounds.
I would be a little skittish about giving Torres a long term contract but on a one year deal I think it works for the Tigers. And I like it more if it reduces their urgency to give Alex Bregman an eight year contract. This team has enough holes that it doesn’t need to consolidate yet. Getting some two win players at several spots should help. Torres is probably an 2 win player for them. And on the off chance he rebounds they can give him a QO.
Sort of makes sense for Torres, in the sense that MLB teams are often prone to recency bias. But Torres thrives on cheap home runs and Tiger stadium does not give you cheap homers. Statcast’s adjusted homers give him 9 homers in Detroit using his 2024 batted ball data. Either he’s going to have to hit the ball very differently or he’s going to have a very similar offseason to this one—a roughly two win player looking for a deal to establish his value. Washington or Cincinnati would be much better for his batted ball chart.
Of course Cincinnati would be a good place for him. That park is ridiculous. But all in all no one will ever convince me Torres is even an average ball player. He has hit 24 Home Runs in 2 freaking years. His defence is lousy. He is a poor base runner. He is lazy. He can get on at a decent clip but all the negatives make him a player that should not be a starter in MLB. Sorry Tiger fans. I’m betting you want rid of him by summer. I’m sure Tarik Skubal is tearing his hair out.
Dear God, did WFAN.com link to this article?
Of course…he would have hit 26 bombs in Comerica last year.
It will be interesting to see if his focus improves with a different coaching regime – his defense and baserunning issues have never been about athleticism.
Bingo. If you’re Detroit, you hope the lack of long term offers & him taking a 1 year deal is sort of a “wake up call” for Torres.
He clearly has a ton of talent & no, he didn’t maximize it in NY. Whether that is on him or the Yankees coaches, who knows?
But, it’s usually a good idea to take a chance on a talented guy who is motivated & feels they have something to prove.
I’m with you on this. He might end up in the Bellinger category where teams are scared of giving out a a real long term contract. This is a chance for him to rebuild his value somewhere besides NY but unless he goes off he’s likely looking at a three year contract next year. If he has a bad season it will be another 1 year contract.
I don’t think he needs to “wake up”, he needs to figure out why sometimes he is doing well and other times he is not. Maybe Detroit can help him with that, but maybe not.
I think it’s more likely he just has a random hot year without changing the underlying skills. He gets a 3-win season, he’ll get a nice multi-year deal and the team that gets him will regret it.
But I don’t think that matters nearly as much to the Tigers. They just figure that the worst case scenario is that he’s a 1-win player and the best case scenario is they get a great year and they get to stick him with a QO. The downside isn’t that much, the upside is nice.
I mean…2.5-3 WAR isn’t a “random hot year” – it’s his baseline.
He had a nightmare first half…and then was right back to his normal .340 wOBA with iffy defense and dumb baserunning from July.
Had a rough 2021 as well. But even then, he was still worth 1.4 fWAR.
I think jason shure’s comment below sums it up well. The guy’s data is all over the place. You just hope you get more of the good stuff than the bad stuff. Absolutely worth a one year deal like this in the hopes it works, scary if you’re banking on him over a multi year deal.
I do cut him some slack for moving to short in 20/21 at the same time that they killed the rocket ball
But yeah – when the downside is a 1.5 WAR/650 guy and the upside is 4 WAR…$15m is a no-brainer.
The year to year variation in his hitting profile looks awful weird to me. Whiffs, chases, Max EV, regular EV, hard hit – all going up and down year to year, and not in any easy-to-characterize way
He’s a random number generator.
“In the World Series, the Dodgers held him to a 5-for-26 showing with just two times on base in the first inning — but then they stifled just about every Yankees hitter in that five-game romp.”
The Yankees had a 112 wRC+ in the World Series?
Narrative!
A lot of Angels fans wanted Gleybar, but I really don’t see the fit. Hope he does well in Detroit (a team thats becoming very easy to like) but I could very well see him underperforming his contract
It’s pretty funny to me that the Tigers want Gleyber at 2B and Keith at 1B because of defense, when Keith’s range is far superior to Gleyber’s. Gleyber has never had a positive season by OAA or FRV, and his best range season was still two runs worse than Keith’s last year, with an average of much worse. Keith was worth +1 FRV and has room to grow.
He doesn’t even have an arm strength advantage anymore. 7th percentile arm strength. At 2B he’s just not good defensively. Keith has every opportunity to be a better 2B than Gleyber on both sides of the ball.
The long-term plan for who plays where in Detroit has been unclear for a long time. I doubt even they know what it is.
They seem to be worried about Keith making max effort throws from third base due to a right shoulder (arm?) injury, so maybe that carried over and they figured they would give him a year’s rest at first. I’ve also heard some things that Jung is much more comfortable at 2B than 3B and that it should be his long-term position, but maybe they want to see if Jung can handle third if he’s given more reps there.
But I have never thought that Keith at 2B and Jung at 3B was a viable long-term option. Keith’s range today is not going to be the same as his range in two years, and it’s probably going down, and Jung isn’t a clean fit at third either. Even if Jung could become passable at third base you’d need a shortstop with enormous range to make it work, someone along the lines of Andrelton Simmons or Nick Ahmed.
While that’s fair, it’s kind of a non-factor at the present. They don’t even know if Jung can be an average everyday player (I really don’t think so, but maybe that’s just me), and Keith’s only 23. Sure, he’s not a prototypical defensive 2B, but Gleyber has never come close to him defensively. Not at any point. Most years, he’s been far worse in terms of range and his arm is now worse as well. I’d think you’d rather give the young gun his best opportunity and play your guys as far up the defensive spectrum as possible for their abilities.
And I don’t think moving him to first is that restful. He’s still playing in the best baseball league in the world, and 1B isn’t easy by any stretch. Especially if it’s not your natural position, which it’s not for Keith. And he’s going to have to hit to be valuable at 1B, which will put more stress on his arm/shoulder anyway. Imo, it’s a moot point. It just seems like musical chairs rather than strategy.
I don’t dislike the addition of Torres, but the positional shifts and the reasoning given feels nonsensical.
Yes, defense is a non-trivial part of Keith’s value. Shoulder or no shoulder he needs to play a real defensive position to be valuable and 2B is real.
Torres needs to find another position where he isn’t blocking anyone who’ll be there in 2026. It doesn’t really matter where.
Riley Greene to RF and Torres in Left? Wenceel Perez is a dead fish in the OF, and having more time to react and move might be helpful to a guy with low acceleration like Gleyber. Greene has a roughly average arm, but good range. He’d be solid in RF.
Or…they’ve just accepted that Tork is a short side platoon DH.
If he starts hitting righties better than Perez does, slot Kerry into RF.
Gleyber’s biggest issue defensively is that he’s an error machine – it will be interesting to see how he does in a different organization.
Anyway, Gleyber is replacing Keith defensively – he’s replacing Torkelson.
I’d argue that his biggest issue is that his range has been somewhere in the bottom-10% of the league even when he was younger and more athletic. He’s just not a 2B in practical terms.
That’s still not great, nor a good use of his skills nor Keith’s. This is just shuffling your hand. It does nothing. Torkelson was also worth 1 OAA at 1B, so I’m not convinced by the “bad defense” argument. He’s roughly a net neutral. Hitting, fine, he’s not great. But this isn’t a solution. It’s putting a band-aid on a brain tumor.
Statcast’s “range” factor doesn’t separate errors.
If he’s in perfect position on a ball hit two steps to his left and muffs it, Statcast Range says “No play made” just like it would if Luis Arraez dived for it and missed.
Playing short, 10 of his -12 career runs came from errors.
If you were Torres wouldn’t you try to get at least a 2 year deal (maybe with an opt out)? You’d have to settle for a lower AAV, but get more security with a chance for a payoff from a breakout.
To not have more offers suggests the scouting is worse than the crowd sees. The Nationals usually love this kind of midseason tradeable “veteran.” seems like they really aren’t spending money this year or the scouting report was dismal.
I wonder how much the one-year deal takes cues from bet-on-yourself Soto.
The reporting is that he told his agent he didn’t even want a two year deal with an opt-out, that he was all in on having a pillow deal to rebuild his value. And that he rejected the Nationals and Angels because he didn’t want to play third base.
To me, this makes very little sense. You can always reject the second year, and if you’re betting on yourself you don’t want to turn down a team that would be a good fit. If the Reds showed up and offered him a two year deal with an opt out and a decent buyout in year two, wouldn’t you defer the money a little bit so you can deposit balls over the left field fence there?
If that’s true it’s a bizarre decision.
Seems like the Ms should have been interested. Especially at this price.
This is not how Cubs fans envisioned the Gleyber-Baez partnership, I’m sure
I don’t think they envisioned Addison Russell being where he is either.
I now have a better idea how teams value a bat only middle infielder.
“The Yankees may wind up missing Torres more than they realize”
It’s time to move on from Gleyber. I have not seen the Yanks fanbase and Front Office more united than we are in this sentiment.
If he goes on to being superstar, then thats great for him as we really do want him to succeed. But it’s time to move on from his style of play. The Yanks lost many games due to their horrendous baserunning and Gleyber was one of the main culprits. Also, shifting Jazz back to 2nd and using Peraza/Cabrera at 3rd will improve our infield defense greatly.
I mean you say that now. The issue is that the Yankees have two middle infielders worth playing every day in Jazz and Volpe. Unfortunately only Jazz has a decent bat. If you look at their lineup 1-9 you have the Judge mountain, a Jazz band, Wells and the ghost of Stanton. Then a whole lot of questionable bats. Having Soto last year papered over a lot of the other positions of weakness but now they need the other position players to carry some of the water.
All you need are two middle infielders. Even with Volpe’s below average bat, he is still a 3-win player on a rookie contract.
As it stands now, the Yankees lineup consists of Judge and a bunch of average bats with really good defense and much improved baserunning.
The only “Average Bats”other than Judge and Bellinger among position players are Chisholm and Wells…the former of whom is a lot more aesthetically pleasing than Torres, but isn’t actually better.
Everything else is just hope; which isn’t the same thing as a plan.
Honestly, this strikes me as basically the same thing as when The Post simply brands every player on the roster with a modicum of uncertainty with a “Question Mark”. Sure, you don’t know exactly what you’ll get, but with each player you can be reasonably confident it’ll be fine. Dominguez has been above average since the moment he stepped on the field, Grisham was above average this year outside of a couple outlier months when he barely got to see the field, etc.
I’m a big Dominguez guy…but prospects are always question marks until they perform – and 0.1 WAR in 100 PA isn’t someone I’m writing down in Sharpie as a good starter.
(Cabrera and Peraza aren’t question marks – I have zero belief that they’ll perform in every day roles)
Meanwhile, Grisham’s offensive performance was exactly in line with his previous two seasons, where he played every day…and Stanton’s totaled 1.3 WAR over the last three seasons.
Like, we’re at the point where The Athletic is writing fluff pieces on DJ LeMahieu bouncing back.
The Yankees are paying DJ LeMahieu $15m this season…and there’s zero reason to treat Peraza or Cabrera as everyday players.
The PinstripeAlley/WFAN crowd really doesn’t understand the gap between an above average player who’s aesthetically unpleasing and replacement-level slop.
But they will.
Yeah, I’m also having trouble squaring the Gleyber hate with reality. A baseline 1.5-2 win player at $15 million for a single year is a bargain. And as a guy just as likely to pop 3 wins (per Steamer, Zips, and what he did in ’22 and ’23) at a position of need, it’s downright ridiculous the Yankees didn’t retain Gleyber, especially considering the Yankees spent damn near the same amount of money of the fading ghost of Goldschmidt past.
As I watch Goldy’s mediocre defense and collapsing offense, I’ll take great solace in knowing he plays the game “the right way”.
I think a lot of it is how good his bat was the first two years, at the time it looked like the sky was the limit. They just traded for a similarly confounding player in Bellinger
Yeah but that is going to work out great for them. Yankee stadium is great for this iteration of Bellinger.
Earlier in his career when he was averaging 90-92 MPH exit velocity and with a Max EV of 110-112 it wouldn’t have mattered either way. But now his EV has declined enough that when he pulls that ball in the air (which IIRC is a lot) having a short right field matters a lot.
But I would not want to be the team that gives him that big contract after he taps 25-30 homers over the fence in 2025.
Funniest thing is that his 2022-23 bar was just as good as his first couple years – same with his second-half performance this year.
It just didn’t come via DINGERZZZZ.
“He’s been eight runs below average on the bases over the past three seasons; his -4.6 runs was the majors’ sixth-lowest mark in 2024, and he was thrown out at the plate six times”
Wouldn’t this mean that a lot of his negative baserunning value is merely due to bad sends, and would be automatically fixed by a better 3B coach?
The Yankees had a lot of bad sends by the 3B coach but Torres is also a really bad baserunner. Somehow he probably wasn’t a bottom 2 baserunner on the team; Stanton runs like a ton of bricks and Soto might be the worst baserunner I’ve ever seen in terms of pure stupidity
“but then they stifled just about every Yankees hitter in that five-game romp”
The Yankees had more hits, more home runs, a higher OPS, and more runs scored than the Dodgers in the World Series
I think the Dodgers did actually score more runs. Now, earned runs, on the other hand . . .
I kind of want to see the Tigers run Jung, Torres, and Keith all in one infield for a pure entertainment standpoint just for one game.
But the reality is we still need bats and talent and a 1 year 15 mil signing for a 2 WAR player is so low risk they might as well. That’s cheap by today’s standards.
Especially when Torres has been worth 8 WAR over the last three seasons, even with the down 2024.
Yankees fans have never forgiven him for not turning out to be a superstar…but he’s just a good MLB starting player.
Dan Uggla wasn’t sexy, but he got the job done.
I like this a lot for the Tigers – Gleyber makes his fair share of forehead slap-inducing gaffes, but he’s a legit 3-Win player coming at a bargain rate.
And Tork won’t be competing with Kerry Carpenter for playing time – if he plays against righties, it’ll be at the expense of Wenceel Perez, with Carp slotting into RF.
One of the better Sterling HR calls: “It’s Gleyber day! Like a good Gleyber, Torres is there!”
Godspeed, Mr. Torres.