Houston Survives Late Inning Scare, Beats Yankees in Six

After what was otherwise a fairly quiet affair punctuated by the occasional home run, the Houston Astros won Game 6 of the American League Championship Series 6-4 on a walkoff home run from José Altuve. Houston takes the series four games to two, and avoids a high-stakes Game 7 that would have left Gerrit Cole unavailable in the World Series until the third game.

The evening got off to an inauspicious start for the Yankees as Houston’s first entrant in the bullpen battle, Brad Peacock, quickly dispatched DJ LeMahieu, Aaron Judge, and Gleyber Torres with seven pitches. Chad Green opened for New York and didn’t perform as well in his half of the inning as Peacock did in his. Green was perhaps fortunate to escape a rather pedestrian slider to Altuve with only a double, but he was less lucky with a high, very inside fastball to Yuli Gurriel, which the first baseman turned on for a home run to give the Astros an early 3-0 lead. That high, inside fastball isn’t usually that dangerous for a pitcher; there were only 13 home runs hit this year by right-handed hitters swinging at a four-seamer in Statcast’s inside and high-inside “chase” zones. Coincidentally enough, Gurriel had one of those home runs, comfortably turning on a sorta-fastball from Trevor Williams. This might have been one of the highest-leverage of those since Kit Keller’s.

New York got a run back off Peacock in the second, though there was a rather egregious umpire error committed by crediting the Yankees with a score despite no home run having been hit, which I’m fairly sure became an illegal play sometime before the 2019 season started. (Likely more offensive to Yankees fan was the fact that Gary Sánchez’s single was the only such rule violation committed by New York during the game.)

J.A. Happ and Luis Cessa combined to throw four scoreless innings, allowing just a single hit between them, but the Yankees’ issues with runners on base continued and they missed a golden opportunity in the third against Josh James. James threw eight fastballs either above or below the strike zone and the Yankees let every single one of them go by for a ball. But two walks and a Gleyber Torres single resulted in no runs, as has been their recent custom. Ryan Pressly’s knee only lasted for a single pitch, but it was an important one, resulting in a Didi Gregorius groundout to end the threat. Pressly missed a month of the season due to arthroscopic knee surgery, but Saturday night’s soreness is not currently expected to be serious enough to affect his World Series eligibility.

Jose Urquidy went after the Yankees aggressively, a strategy that paid off with five strikeouts in two and two-thirds innings. Urquidy’s stint was marred by a Gio Urshela’s home run, reducing Houston’s lead to one, which I’m told is an especially dangerous sort of advantage as it is an odd number. The Astros got their run back on a fielder’s choice from Alex Bregman.

There were the usual social media complaints about the Yankees not playing in, conceding the run for the double play (there were runners on first and third), but with Altuve at third, I would argue his speed is enough of a threat that playing with the hope of turning two was probably the right idea. I’m less forgiving of Aaron Judge being doubled up by Michael Brantley. While the catch wasn’t a sure thing, Judge was too aggressive on the bases, leaving himself an easy target if Brantley had managed to make the catch. Which he did! While they had trouble with baserunners in the postseason, the Yankees were second in baseball in their percentage of baserunners driven in this season (16.6% compared to 14.8% league average), and they did it through station-to-station thumping, being in the bottom third of teams in extra bases taken and the third least likely team to advance a runner with an out.

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The last gasp of the Yankees was driven by a familiar 2019 story for the squad: the player brought in to be a backup infielder (LeMahieu) hitting a homer off Astros closer Roberto Osuna to drive in the backup-backup-backup infielder (Urshela) and tie the game. Giving first place votes to LeMahieu in MVP balloting would have been silly, but the Summer of DJ was one of the best stories in baseball this year. Maybe it’ll even motivate contending teams to once again shell out actual money to fill holes with seemingly league-average veterans. (Ha!)

But the joy in the Bronx was short-lived. Aroldis Chapman didn’t have much trouble with Martín Maldonado, and got Josh Reddick to pop out on a 100 mph fastball to put the Bombers an out away from extra frames. But Chapman started having location issues against George Springer, who wasn’t even moderately tempted to swing at his stuff. Against Altuve, Chapman threw a rather slow, uninspiring slider that hung on the plate like a bad slurve, and unlike Green’s similar pitch in the first, Altuve was able to take this one out of the park.

The Astros return to the World Series for the second time in three years and have to be ecstatic about getting the win here instead of in Game 7, making a fully rested Gerrit Cole available to pitch in Game 1 against the Washington Nationals.

Much will be made about the Yankees leaving a multitude of runners on base, but while it’s no silver lining for Yankees fans, leaving batters on base in positively correlated with future offensive performance. Teams that score a lot of runs have a lot of baserunners and as I noted above, the Yankees were one of the best teams in the majors in 2019 at driving those in.

If you want to take away something from this series, I think it’s that the Yankees may have paid the price for not being more aggressive in their attempts to pick up a top-end starter like Marcus Stroman at the trade deadline. The Yankees have a marvelous bullpen, but they also have the resources, both in trade bait and cash, to avoid entering the playoffs with such a weak fourth-starter situation. The bullpen threw a lot of innings in October and having Stroman or Mike Minor or Robbie Ray to soak up six innings would have kept the high-leverage guys fresher.

I’d also be at least mildly concerned that against a very patient Astros team, which otherwise struggled offensively, the Yankees allowed a lot of free passes this series, with 27 walks in 54.2 innings.

Despite the disappointing ending to the season, it would be hard for the Yankees to look back and regret 2019. The team absorbed a ludicrous number of injuries and finished in triple-digit wins without the help of their missing stars. If my award vote this year was for American League Manager of the Year, I’d happily have cast my ballot for Aaron Boone. It might be cold comfort as the skipper looks ahead to a World Series spent at home, but he and his players accumulated a lot of winning moments despite their Game 6 exit.





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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CJMember since 2020
6 years ago

I guess this is too obvious, conventional, or outdated, but I thought the right-handedness of the Yankee lineup, which makes them obviously more vulnerable to the string of RHPs, was the biggest problem for them, which Astros clearly took advantage of.
You can’t really fault Cashman, given all the things he got right ( DJ LeMahieu himself may well justify his salary this year), but I really thought he should’ve gotten a lefty instead of Encarnacion, and maybe get one more DH/corner OF type at the deadline, if they were not going to get a SP. I suppose I don’t have to remind anyone that the Championship Yankee teams of the ’90 (I feel so old) always had a balanced lineup, with potent switch hitters to boot.

Joe Joe
6 years ago
Reply to  CJ

Astros have a ton of RHPs with 12-6 curves and change-up (i.e., reverse splits). Adding more LHBs would have made it easier for Urquidy, Harris, Pressly, and Osuna.

dl80Member since 2020
6 years ago
Reply to  CJ

They had Ford and Tauchmann but chose Sabathia over then for whatever reason. That was the real mistake.

The Ghost of Stephen Drews BatMember since 2026
6 years ago
Reply to  dl80

Oh please. They chose an establish lefty arm over a career minor leaguer vs a recently struggling and injured lefty bat. Not close to a mistake

kaynab
6 years ago

Wow insightful!

The Ghost of Stephen Drews BatMember since 2026
6 years ago
Reply to  kaynab

Those who preferred Ford or Tauchmann shows who is really watching games and playing attention the last few weeks. Thanks though!

montrealMember since 2022
6 years ago

Actually, Ford and/or Tauchman would have been much better than Giancarlo Strikeout. Ya he ran into one and hit a homer but man he is one useless ball player. Horrible defence, never a clutch hitter, and way too many strikeouts. Lets be honest…the Yankees would be elated if they could find a way to rid themselves of Stanton.

roadrider
6 years ago
Reply to  dl80

I would have had Ford on the roster over Tauchman who hadn’t played in a while and whose numbers were nosediving before he got hurt. Its hindsight sure but given how overmatched EE was against the Astros it would have been nice to plug Ford in as DH.

sbf21
6 years ago
Reply to  CJ

The dynasty Yankees of the late 90s had excellent starting pitching: Jimmy Key, David Cone, “El Duque” Hernandez, David Wells, Andy Pettitte, and Roger Clemens

Charles BalterMember since 2019
6 years ago
Reply to  CJ

Greg Bird was a major loss. And as much as I don’t care for Bryce Harper, Harper would have been a better fit than Stanton.

Let’s make no mistake about it: Giancarlo Stanton’s season was a massive failure. Stanton essentially stole $25 million this year. From the beginning to the end, Stanton was nothing but a drag on the team.

Sleepy
6 years ago

It’ll be interesting to see how a Yankees/Astros ALCS plays out next fall when Cole’s in pinstripes.

JimMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  Sleepy

No way Cashman makes a deal with Boras.

bglick4
6 years ago
Reply to  Sleepy

I don’t know, the Yankees are rapidly becoming the Astros’ Twins.

mercyMember since 2017
6 years ago
Reply to  bglick4

I don’t know the Yankees actually won a game this series.

tonywagnerMember since 2020
6 years ago

Dan, I am curious about your take on Boone over Baldelli for MOY.

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago
Reply to  tonywagner

Could there be a less serious award? Are either even qualified for their job?

montrealMember since 2022
6 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

Idiot !!

montrealMember since 2022
6 years ago
Reply to  tonywagner

Holy smokes !! It should be Aaron Boone in a landslide. 103 wins with half a lineup !!

RonnieDobbs
6 years ago

Ineffective bullpens have been the story of the playoffs in 2019. The World Series sports the two strongest starting rotations in MLB, no? Close to it at least – I’m not sure where LAD fits, but currently I think they are kind of on fumes so I would put WAS ahead. CLE is usually in that conversation, but 2019 was a disaster. I like that these rotations were built (with the exception of Stras) from expensive pieces that most teams were not exactly fighting over. While the rest of the league is trying to figure out how to maximize their bottom lines and cobble together a garbage staff, the teams financially committed to winning are winning. The new moneyball appears to be to not chase RP fads or overvalue the importance of WAR/$. The competitive advantage will always come from feeding off of the group that is chasing the last fad. If we really were a group of baseball fans that wanted to have the best baseball available, then we would chastise all the teams making money but not wanting to spend it on competing – instead we spend way more time blindly promoting progressive narratives.

Joe Joe
6 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

Interesting narrative. Though, Astros have lowest xFIP-, 3rd lowest ERA-, and 3rd lowest xwOBA among bullpens. Astros blindly follow progressive narratives….getting the best players including relievers.

dl80Member since 2020
6 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

I don’t think that’s entirely fair. Most of the writers (and commenters) here DO chastise teams that are cheap just to line the owner’s pockets: Mets, Pirates, Marlins, etc.

The problem with paying for starting pitchers (in money and/or prospects) is that you never know if you are going to get Cole or David Price. It’s a viable strategy and I think we’re going to see it more, as Corbin and Scherzer and Cole and Verlander all worked out so far. But it’s not a panacea.

scooter262
6 years ago
Reply to  dl80

I agree with your point. However, David Price, though probably not worth the contract, has been fairly good, and was part of the 2028 championship team. In other words, he’s far from a bust.

NATS FanMember since 2018
6 years ago
Reply to  scooter262

I am betting the house on whatever team employs David Price 9 years from today!

Charles Bengal TigerMember since 2017
6 years ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

With the straight scoop from Marty McFly, how could you not?

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  dl80

David Price hasn’t been worth the money but why hasn’t Yu Darvish been mentioned. 7-11 in his 31 and 32 year old seasons doesn’t bode well for the rest of his deal and how do the Red Sox feel about$46M going to Sale and Eovaldi the next three years. The odds do not appear to favor the Red Sox. It isn’t just starters either. Kimbrel and Diaz both cost their teams any shot at the playoffs this year. Diaz cost the Mets a large fortune by being forced to take the expiring contract of Robinson Cano to get him and that contract doesn’t expire until well after Cano’s game has. Oh, and let us not forget that Jerred Kelenic and Justin Dunn headed west as well. Buying pitchers is a very frightening move for any team. In recent years the Red Sox spent money and prospects on Andrew Bailey, Mark Melancon, Joel Hanrahan, Carson Smith, Tyler Thornburg and got nothing from any of them. The only sure thing is to make deal with Neal Huntington and you can get Cole, Morton or Glasnow for pennies on the dollar.

rhswanzey
6 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

I wonder if an above average starting rotation holds more weight in a high scoring environment, than in a low scoring environment. Clearly squeezing relief innings from your starters in between starts has played a large role in both this postseason and last year’s postseason, as well.

Chili Davis Eyes
6 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

”these rotations were built (with the exception of Stras) from expensive pieces that most teams were not exactly fighting over”

I guess this is technically true, if by “most teams“ you means more than half of them. Signing the best pitchers available is always a good strategy, but signing a bunch of pitchers who are so expensive that most teams cannot afford them doesn’t strike me as a particularly sustainable version of that strategy. These teams have paid top dollar for top talent, but they’ve also been very lucky that these very expensive pitchers haven’t broken down on them.

rhswanzey
6 years ago

You’ve got to bench Alvarez at this point, right? I think the Astros should consider DHing Tucker vs RHP, or even starting Marisnick and moving Brantley to DH.

scooter262
6 years ago

Jose Altuve has become my favorite player! As a Red Sox fan, his performance against the Yankees warms my heart. He reminds me so much of Pedroia: his love of playing, his greatness, and obviously, his size. To the point about not getting another pitcher at the deadline: at that point, they still thought they had Domingo Germán, right?

lowereastsider
6 years ago
Reply to  scooter262

As a NYY fan, it was painful to watch Altuve hit that HR. However, I had to watch his postgame interview because the guy is damnright likeable and a wonder to watch play. And German > Stroman.

Twitchy
6 years ago

“We were interested in Stroman but we didn’t think he would be a difference-maker,” he said. “We felt he would be in our bullpen in the postseason”

That quote by Cashman was awful at the time, but it looks even worse when in an elimination game they were forced into a bullpen game because they didn’t have enough starters they could rely on.

tung_twista
6 years ago
Reply to  Twitchy

The quote is awful, yes, but the reason why they had a bullpen game was because Domingo German got suspended for DV.
Stroman is not necessarily an upgrade from Severino/Tanaka/Paxton.
And while he is better than Domingo German, upgrading your 4th starter is much less important in the postseason.
Also, while it sounds silly knowing the outcome of last night’s game, having a bullpen game is not a bad idea given the Yankees roster.

stever20Member since 2017
6 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

having a bullpen game in a situation with 4 straight days though is a pretty bad idea. And if they survive, what would they have had tonight?

Think this postseason is swinging teams back to looking for starters instead of automatically just bullpens.

tung_twista
6 years ago
Reply to  stever20

Are you saying Cashman should’ve looked at the weather forecast two months in advance and predicted that there would be a weather delay?
It’s not like the Astros were in a better spot.
The Yankees resorted to a bullpen day mostly because German got suspended.
The Astros resorted to a bullpen day mostly because McHugh got injured.

emh1969
6 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

I have doubts that the Yankees would have used German as a starter in the playoffs.

His last two appearances were out of the bullpen because the Yankees were trying to manage his workload.

And let’s not pretend that German was actually good. He got off to a great start but by the end of the year he had a 4.03 ERA and a 4.72 FIP. And after that hot start, he was terrible. His last 15 starts he had a 5.31 ERA and gave up 25 home runs in only 81.1 innings (2.77/9 Innings).

stever20Member since 2017
6 years ago
Reply to  emh1969

Didn’t the Yankees have an injury to a pitcher after German got suspended? So while they would have tried to manage the workload- might not have had a choice. Also his last 2 outings out of the pen were excellent- 6.1 scoreless innings with 7 k’s and 2 walks. We’ll never know.

Also even if he was out of the pen- he would have been a far better option to start the game on Saturday than Green was.

stever20Member since 2017
6 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

weather happens. I just think we’re going to see the pendulum going away from bullpenning quite as heavily as we’ve seen it. Both teams were lucky last night that the opponent didn’t have a real starter- or they would have been in deep trouble..

rhswanzey
6 years ago
Reply to  stever20

I mean, they’re not the guys you want pitching the bulk of an elimination game, but their starting point was eight rested innings of Severino/Heller/Lyons. Plus, now they have Tanaka on two days and Loasiaga available. That’s before you get to figuring out which of the setup guys/Chapman is available for a second or third consecutive day, or a 3rd out of 4.

Your best case for the first three pitchers I just mentioned is probably four runs over seven or eight. That’s not ideal against Cole but not impossible: he just needs one off inning. The Astros pen would have been spent to a lesser degree for game 7 as well. Basically only short guys available. So if it’s a slog kind of a start for Cole, he’s probably going to get pushed to try to go five plus even if he doesn’t have it.

There was more than no chance; of course, smart money says Cole goes out and shuts it down over seven. Astros wouldn’t have Pressly available but also wouldn’t be able to risk pulling him from a WS roster. That’s a huge late innings hole for them.

Twitchy
6 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

Stroman is absolutely an upgrade over one of the Yanks top 3. And it’s not just about having a fourth starter – what if Paxton/Tanaka got injured, or Severino had another set back? Cashman couldn’t have known if they’d all be around for the playoffs in July. You can’t expect everybody to be healthy, something the Yankees should have been quite aware of.

tung_twista
6 years ago
Reply to  Twitchy

I do think reasonable people can disagree over whether Severino/Paxton/Tanaka or Stroman is better but FWIW Zips projects Stroman’s ERA to be higher than the top 3 Yankees starters so at the least, your usage of ‘absolutely’ is unwarranted.
Also Stroman is an extreme groundball pitcher and the Yankees infield defense is pretty bad especially with LeMahieu at 1B so Stroman is less valuable to Yankees than to other teams.

Twitchy
6 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

In 2019 Stroman was the best of the 4 pitchers in terms of production. I don’t think that part is debatable. If Severino was healthy he’s clearly better on pure talent but he wasn’t more productive. And that was part of the problem with the Yankees rotation, if Severino would return, how good he’d be if he returned, and how durable or how many innings he could give you in a start.

If you want to look at a larger 3 year sample, Stroman is better than Tanaka. Stroman is better at preventing runs, and he had a better FIP.

You’re right that the Yankees IF wasn’t great defensively, but that doesn’t change the fact that Stroman still would have been, at worst, the third best starter on the Yankees in this playoff run, and shifting more innings to Stroman and fewer to Tanaka would have made the Yankees a better team.

montrealMember since 2022
6 years ago
Reply to  Twitchy

Marcus Stroman is decent for sure, but he is NOT better than James Paxton, Luis Severino, or Masahiro Tanaka. Stroman does not have a strikeout pitch, which prevents him from becoming really good.

NATS FanMember since 2018
6 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

The NATS #4 started two key games in the postseason and excelled! They can and do matter sometimes.

jakelee
6 years ago
Reply to  Twitchy

That quote of Cashman’s does look pretty bad right now, but his failure to take advantage of Neil Huntington after the ‘17 season now looks really bad. Frazier and Andujar were too much to give up for Cole ? Wow !

montrealMember since 2022
6 years ago
Reply to  jakelee

Interesting point. I like Cashman, but his holding onto these prospects has backfired. Frazier is now less valued, same as Anduhar…..and same as Florial. In particular we have so many outfielders I just can’t understand holding onto Frazier or Florial.

ThomasMember since 2017🏆 MVP
6 years ago
Reply to  jakelee

Maybe so – but remember that from his MLB debut through 2017, Cole was not some dominant sure thing. It took a change of scenerey and a different approach (that he found in Houston) to make him what he’s become.

Dmjn53
6 years ago
Reply to  Twitchy

They lost to a team that was also having a bullpen day

stever20Member since 2017
6 years ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

whose pen had thrown only 1 inning the night before due to their starter.

Bobby Ayala
6 years ago

Ugh too many HRs in baseball right? Would’ve been way more exciting if the yankees tied it in the 9th with a HBP, Sac fly, walk, single , fielders choice, throwing error, followed by the astros winning it on more walks and (maybe) a double in the gap. Sarcasm.

sbf21
6 years ago

Wait. How is Urshela a backup-backup-backup? After Andujar, who are the two other third basemen that were ahead of him?

sbf21
6 years ago
Reply to  sbf21

.

Cave Dameron
6 years ago
Reply to  sbf21

Well said.

montrealMember since 2022
6 years ago
Reply to  Cave Dameron

LOL

montrealMember since 2022
6 years ago
Reply to  sbf21

Urshela has to be the 3rd baseman next year. Great defensively and a better overall hitter than Anduhar.

baubo
6 years ago

What’s so ironic about this series is that the Yankees hit better this series, scored more runs in this series, and lost to the Astros due to the one thing that they were great at in the regular season, sequencing. It was the Astros that got those efficient 3-run homers while the Yankees on multiple occasions couldn’t even get a base hit with bases loaded. If someone came into this series without knowing any of the background on these two teams, that person could very easily have said the Yankees were the better team for these past 6 games.

Raidas77
6 years ago
Reply to  baubo

Yeah, that’s the playoffs. What worked in the regular season doesn’t always work in the playoffs against a similarly talented foe in a 7 game series.

As Dan eluded to in the piece, the Yankees gave up a ton of walks. Something they likely don’t do unless it is a team of Houston’s caliber. And the other piece of the equation in sequencing luck is execute on the pitch. Houston pitchers had a lot of runners on base too, but executed and got out of innings. Yankees did not as much. Some of those three run homers were hit on pitches right over the plate. And they were often driving in runners that got on via the walk, something the Yanks don’t do in the regular season.

So, I see sequencing as a larger sample size term. In the playoffs, it’s execution and self-inflicted errors.

SucramRenrutMember since 2017
6 years ago

I wonder if Boone was partially hamstrung by the injured stars returning but with a lot of rust. Didi, Stanton, EE, and Hicks were pretty brutal and Boone was basically forced to play them because losing with those guys on the bench looks terrible. Not a certainty the Tauchman/Voit squad does any better, but it begs the question.

haueter19Member since 2019
6 years ago

Not sure who is responsible for the subtitle, but is it fair to call that a meltdown? Osuna gave up a routine single on 97 top of the zone, struck out Gardner and made him look silly, battled and eventually lost (by inches) to a hitter whose career year was good enough for 21st in wRC+ before striking out Judge and inducing weak contact from Torres. I mean, that’s a tough inning. And the ball LeMahieu hit only had a .270 xBA. It went out by 3 ft maybe? Absolutely, it was a bad outcome and not at all what you want, but in the age of the HR and facing the team with the 2nd most in MLB history, I think meltdown isn’t just a little strong. Also, I recognize no one cares!

WARrior
6 years ago

Another benefit for the Astros of winning Game 6, besides being able to start Cole in Game 1, is that Greinke, a very good hitting pitcher, will start Game 3 in Washington. I thought it was a bit of a waste that he ended up returning to the AL, where this aspect of his value isn’t relevant. At least for one high stakes game, it will be relevant.

NATS FanMember since 2018
6 years ago
Reply to  WARrior

I’m not sure his hitting talents will matter against the NATS rotation. They are beasts this postseason.

Thizzle13
6 years ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

Well, pretty sure his bat handling skills are a lot better than those pitchers who haven’t touched a bat since college.

stever20Member since 2017
6 years ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

Astros may be the best hitting group of AL pitchers that you’ll see in the World Series. Greinke in game 3, pinch hitters in game 4, and then Cole in game 5(not a great hitter but still .163 for his career).

stever20Member since 2017
6 years ago

One thing it’ll be interesting to see on the ZIPS odds page- the Nats I think are going Scherzer 1 and Strasburg 2. It’ll be interesting to see how the odds change with that….

The GuruMember since 2026
6 years ago

how do all the astrso pitchers increase the spin rate the minute they are traded to them. then the minute they are traded away it goes back to normal. Look at Keuchel. Look at verlander from the tigers to the stros. Clearly they are cheating with the ball. Players dont know but the org is def doing something. TAke a guy like verlander…..his spin rate was well known for 10 years, then he goes to stros and it goes up. same with keuchel when he left the stros it wen tdown. SAD that they cheat.

Its not just me seeing it…many players are coming out on twitter about it. so sad

London Yank
6 years ago
Reply to  The Guru

Why doesn’t Keuchel just keep cheating? Surely he knows how to do it if he was cheating with the Astros? Also, why doesn’t Keuchel teach all his teammates how to do it?

The GuruMember since 2026
6 years ago
Reply to  London Yank

If you read my post it says the players don’t know about it. org is doing something to the balls. Verlander spin rate avg for last 10 years is “X”. Goes to stros its 10% higher all of sudden and visa versa with keuchel after leaving it goes down. hmm.

Players see this and are posting about it.

tmcd91
6 years ago
Reply to  The Guru

>Players don’t know about it
>Players see this and are posting about it

Pick one

The GuruMember since 2026
6 years ago
Reply to  tmcd91

you knew what i meant. quit trying to play gotcha. the “houston” players don’t actually know whats going on. they are innocent. Its the orginization doing something to the balls. Everyone outside sees it because its not that hard to read spin rates. That is real data.

Charles BalterMember since 2019
6 years ago

Aroldis Chapman is an amazing figure, because as much as his numbers conceal it, the guy cannot be trusted in a big spot, and I doubt he ever will become reliable.

As soon as the Yankees tied the game, you knew Chapman would blow it, just like you knew he would blow it in 2016.

The numbers will show you he’s only slightly worse than he is in the regular season. The numbers will tell you Chapman is as good a postseason pitcher as Mariano Rivera.

Yet, it’s so plainly obvious that Chapman is nowhere near Rivera, and almost as obvious that he’s a disaster waiting to happen.

Charles BalterMember since 2019
6 years ago
Reply to  Dan Szymborski

I didn’t watch Eckersley nearly as much as Chapman. They’re entirely different styles of pitchers pitching in completely different eras. At the time, Eckersley was considered to be babied as a closer, but he was usually pitching 67-80 innings, whereas Chapman’s career high is 71.33 IP in 2012.

Eckersley as a closer was in his late thirties and was a control artist. Chapman has electric stuff, which is part of what makes his failures more frustrating.

Obviously, the ultimate closer is Rivera. Chapman arguably has better stuff than Rivera. The thing about Chapman is that if you watch him regularly, you can see situations where he’s not focused and in control.

If he’s commanding 102, he looks like a very different person than if he’s not hitting 100 and isn’t able to throw it for strikes, or good strikes.

I remember the Kirk Gibson HR. And the Alomar HR. A couple of his other postseason failures, he wasn’t hit hard at all. Whereas, when he has given it up, Chapman has gotten torched.

I think Chapman is a very effective closer, but he’s one of those guys where I think he’s only going to be effective in that specific role, i.e. don’t use him back-to-back games very often, don’t pitch him multiple innings.

The Yankees very much lacked starting pitching, and I think that eventually left Green, Kahnle, Ottavino, and Chapman overexposed.

London Yank
6 years ago

The series felt a bit lopsided, but in reality it was incredibly close in pretty much all respects, and really just came down to sequencing. Here is a team level hitting comparison of the vital statistics:

Yankees, Astros
Runs, 21, 22
HR, 10, 8
Hits, 44, 36
SO, 64, 54
BB, 22, 27

The Yankees had a few more base runners and more home runs, but scored one fewer runs overall, and lost four out of six games. That is the beauty of playoff baseball.

The GuruMember since 2026
6 years ago
Reply to  London Yank

Agreed. Yeah i thought it was lopsided too…i really felt like the yankees shouldve won the series. They just didn’t have the astros luck. Yankees beath them in every single category except luck. Astros won the series because of walkoffs….2 of them to be exact.

Pwn Shop
6 years ago
Reply to  London Yank

Where do errors show up in this equation?