Red Sox Fire their Pitching Coach

Scapegoat is an often-used word when a manager or coach is fired. As the saying goes, “You can’t fire the players,” and the person responsible for putting together the roster is rarely let go during the season. That puts a select few in the cross hairs when things aren’t going as expected. Or, in some cases, what many predicted comes to fruition.

The Red Sox fired their pitching coach today, 28 games into a season where their beleaguered staff is living down to its expectations. Unable to magically turn the likes of Clay Buchholz, Joe Kelly and Justin Masterson into more than what they are, Juan Nieves is now unemployed.

Somewhat surprisingly, Nieves’ replacement is not yet known. According to Ben Cherington, at least one internal candidate and one external candidate is being considered. The Boston GM did say “Nothing happened specifically, recently, that precipitated this.” Cherington said once the decision was reached, the right thing to do was make the move, even without a successor in place.

The degree to which the members of the Red Sox rotation have been underachieving is debatable. Going strictly by what they’re capable of, all should be doing better. But comparing some of their numbers to their projections, the differences aren’t as big as you might think. At the risk of cherry-picking, it’s worth noting that Boston starters have a 3.95 FIP, which is lower than than their depth-chart projected 4.08.

Cherington said he’s not sure which projections I’m looking at – I wasn’t specific when I brought it up during this afternoon’s conference call – adding that “If you look at aggregate performance of our pitching staff, we know it needs to, and can improve.”

Will that happen to any meaningful extent with a new pitching coach? The Red Sox front office, in conjunction with manager John Farrell, seems to think so. Who knows, maybe they’re right and Nieves needed to go. Either way, whomever takes his place has his work cut out for him.





David Laurila grew up in Michigan's Upper Peninsula and now writes about baseball from his home in Cambridge, Mass. He authored the Prospectus Q&A series at Baseball Prospectus from December 2006-May 2011 before being claimed off waivers by FanGraphs. He can be followed on Twitter @DavidLaurilaQA.

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mtsw
8 years ago

They should fire whoever tried to teach Hanley Ramirez how to play left field instead.

Orsulakfan
8 years ago
Reply to  mtsw

The Hanley-in-LF experiment was caused by management buying players at redundant positions, so who does that mean should be fired?

DidItForTheMookie
8 years ago
Reply to  Orsulakfan

The “Hanley-in-LF experiment” is a work in progress and anyone who thought he’d come in and be a good defender immediately is a fool.

And I’m sure management feels bad about getting an elite bat for below market price because he wants to play with David Ortiz in Boston. It will sure be awful to watch him mash from 1B/DH after Ortiz and Napoli depart.

Ted F.
8 years ago

Ortiz and Napoli may still be here, but their bats caught the early flight out of town.

Damaso
8 years ago

$20m/yr for a 135wrc+ DH seems a bit steep.

FuriousToaster
8 years ago

They got him for below market price because he’s a significant injury risk, it had nothing to do with any good will towards ortiz.

if the “hanley in lf” experiment came with an early expiration date, then that’s not a good plan from the get go.

mtsw
8 years ago

Steve Pearce came in and played 3 games of solidly competent 2B for the Orioles last week, despite having never played middle infield as a professional. Hanley is stronger, faster and more experienced than Pearce, is moving from a more challenging position (SS!) to one of the easier ones on the field, and yet looks totally incompetent out there even after a full Spring Training and weeks in the outfield.

It’s hard not to point the finger at the coaching staff for failure to properly prepare Ramirez. There’s no reason he should be struggling as much as he is given what we know about him as a player.

Chowjuch
8 years ago

To mtsw:

Hanley Ramirez might be stronger and faster than Pearce in raw terms but he is pretty terrible at applying those skills. He is probably one of the most uncoordinated fielders I have ever seen. All his movements are sluggish and he is always slow to react. No radar, and no guts, and no skill.

mlmorgenmember
8 years ago

Enjoy watching batting practice. While your DH team continues to suck.

Diekman
8 years ago
Reply to  mtsw

It takes time, Arnie Beyeler is in charge of coaching the OFers and he’s done a good job turning Betts and Nava into a promising CF and a solid-avg corner OFer. Reports are that Hanley is working his butt off to get better and it’s only fair to him to let him at least have a full season

tz
8 years ago
Reply to  Diekman

I totally agree. However, this is tough to pull off while simultaneously trying for a championship, and especially when there’s no good way to acclimate a new guy to The Wall.

I think Boston’s just hoping to hit their way to 90+ wins, not unlike the ’96 Yankees.