JAWS and the 2025 Hall of Fame Ballot: David Wright

Brad Penner-USA TODAY Sports

The following article is part of Jay Jaffe’s ongoing look at the candidates on the BBWAA 2025 Hall of Fame ballot. For a detailed introduction to this year’s ballot, and other candidates in the series, use the tool above; an introduction to JAWS can be found here. For a tentative schedule and a chance to fill out a Hall of Fame ballot for our crowdsourcing project, see here. All WAR figures refer to the Baseball-Reference version unless otherwise indicated.

David Wright is the greatest position player in Mets history, a face-of-the-franchise player who holds the team leads in plate appearances, hits, runs, RBI, total bases, walks, and WAR. A first-round pick out of high school in 2001, the Virginia native spent his entire career with the team, making seven All-Star teams, winning two Gold Gloves, and helping the club to a pair of playoff appearances, including their 2015 pennant.

Though he was surrounded by dysfunction in Queens under the late stages of the Wilpon family’s ownership — the financial tight-fistedness in the wake of the owners’ involvement in the Madoff scandal, the endless micromanagement of injuries, the tone-deaf approach when it came to public relations — Wright stood apart from all of that. Charismatic, exceptionally talented on both sides of the ball, with an off-the-charts work ethic, he was Queens’ answer to Derek Jeter, an icon who avoided scandal, almost invariably said the right thing, and never did anything to embarrass himself or the franchise. Small wonder that he was named team captain in the spring of 2013, and even acquired the nickname “Captain America” while playing for Team USA in that year’s World Baseball Classic.

“If you were going to start from scratch and design the perfect New York ballplayer, David is the kid you’d come up with,” former Mets third baseman and minor league hitting coach Howard Johnson told Sports Illustrated’s Franz Lidz in 2006. “New Yorkers feel cheated if you don’t play hard, get dirty and spill some blood. That’s what the shortstop on the Yankees does, and that’s what David Wright does.”

Alas, Wright turned out to be less Jeter and more Don Mattingly, a superstar whose career was curtailed by back problems. In Wright’s case, he had already missed substantial chunks of two seasons due to injuries when he was diagnosed with spinal stenosis — a narrowing of the spinal canal — in 2015, his age-31 season. He played just 77 games after the diagnosis, though not for lack of trying; he rehabbed endlessly, undergoing a trio of surgeries on his right shoulder, neck, and back in a 16-month span. Inevitably, the Mets found a new way to shame themselves and connect their superstar to controversy when they dragged their feet in activating him, preferring to collect the insurance money for the latter years of his franchise-record eight-year, $138 million extension over giving him a dignified exit. Ultimately they relented, and Wright got the sendoff he deserved via a two-game cameo at the end of the 2018 season.

Wright’s short career prevented him from accumulating the full résumé that would give him a real shot at election to the Hall of Fame, whether it comes to traditional milestones or advanced stats. He’s well shy of 2,000 hits, and short of the JAWS standard at third base. Still, even by scraping by with 6.2% in his first year on the ballot last year, his candidacy is a reminder that when he was healthy, he was one of the best players of his era.

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2025 BBWAA Candidate: David Wright
Player Career WAR Peak WAR JAWS
David Wright 49.2 39.5 44.3
Avg. HOF 3B 69.4 43.3 56.3
H HR AVG/OBP/SLG OPS+
1,777 242 .296/.376/.491 133
SOURCE: Baseball-Reference

David Allen Wright was born on December 20, 1982 in Norfolk, Virginia, the oldest of four sons of Rhon and Elisa Wright. Rhon was a police officer who worked in the narcotics, vice, K-9, and homicide divisions over the course of his 32-year career, while Elisa was a teacher’s assistant. When David was born, Rhon bought a tiny Louisville Slugger bat and baseball glove and hung them in his bedroom.

Wright’s parents were devoted to supporting their sons’ development on the diamond, spending the family’s disposable income on baseball trips and travel team expenses — so long as the boys kept their grades up. Rhon found time to coach David’s Little League team, where he imparted a lesson by sticking his nine-year-old son, who had been the team’s star shortstop but had just moved up a level, in right field, wanting him to earn his way back. “He was fired because of it and banned from all Tidewater-area coaching for that move,” David joked to the New York Post’s Kevin Kernan in 2006.

The Chesapeake Bay area had become a baseball hotbed in the 1990s after a high school coach named Marvin (Towny) Townsend — a former minor leaguer in the Red Sox chain — founded the area’s first Amateur Athletic Union program for advanced players aged 10-15. Within an eight-year span, the program produced five first-round major league picks: Michael Cuddyer (ninth overall to the Twins in the 1997 draft), Wright (38th overall to the Mets in 2001), B.J. Upton (second overall to the Devil Rays in 2002), Justin Upton (first overall to the Diamondbacks in 2005), and Ryan Zimmerman (fourth overall to the Nationals in 2005). The group would remain close as they attained major league stardom, working out together in the offseason.

At Hickory High School, Wright made All-State teams three times, was Player of the Year as a senior, and was considered one of the best high school hitters available in the 2001 draft. He signed a letter of intent to play baseball for Georgia Tech, but after the Mets drafted him — as a supplemental pick for losing Mike Hampton to the Rockies in free agency — he signed for a $960,000 bonus.

Wright began his professional career with the Kingsport Mets in the Appalachian League, where he hit .300/.391/.458 and drew raves for his outstanding work ethic, his instincts and mobility at third base, and his approach at the plate. After a solid season at A-level Capital City (South Carolina), he cracked Baseball America’s Top 100 Prospects list at no. 75, and climbed to no. 21 on the 2004 list after overcoming a slow start — caused by wearing himself out with his pregame workouts — to hit .270/.369/.459 with 15 homers at High-A St. Lucie.

The 21-year-old Wright moved quickly in 2004, hitting a sizzling .363/.467/.619 in 60 games at Double-A Binghamton and .298/.388/.579 in 31 games at Triple-A Norfolk. In the midst of a forgettable 71-91 season under manager Art Howe, the Mets called him up; he debuted on July 21, 2004, going 0-for-4 against the Expos, but he collected a double off Zach Day and a single off Chad Cordero the next day, and then homered off John Patterson (who had retired him twice in his debut) on July 26. In all, he made a strong showing, hitting .293/.332/.525 with 14 homers in 69 games, good for 2.2 WAR. His 119 OPS+ was the best of any Met that season.

Wright quickly solidified his claim as the Mets’ best hitter, batting .306/.388/.523 (140 OPS+) with 27 homers and 17 stolen bases in 2005. His 4.8 WAR — by far the highest total for any Met in his age-22 season or younger — led the team, which under new manager Willie Randolph (and with free agent additions Pedro Martinez and Carlos Beltrán) improved to 83-79. With Paul Lo Duca, Carlos Delgado, and Jose Valentin joining the fold and José Reyes maturing, the Mets improved to 97-65 and won an NL East flag in 2006, with Wright hitting .311/.381/.531 (131 OPS+) with 26 homers, 20 steals, and 4.1 WAR. He made his first of five straight All-Star teams and inked a six-year, $55 million extension in August. In his first taste of postseason action, he came up big, driving in three runs with a pair of doubles off the Dodgers’ Derek Lowe in a 6-5 win in the Division Series opener and opening the scoring with an RBI single off Greg Maddux in a Game 3 win to complete the sweep. He went just 4-for-25 in the team’s NLCS loss to the Cardinals, however, driving in their only run in Game 7.

Though they would go for naught when it came to the Mets making the playoffs, Wright put together two of the best seasons of his career in 2007 and ’08. In 2007, he became just the second Met ever to pair 30 homers and 30 steals (34, in 39 attempts) after Johnson (who did it three times from 1987–91). He hit .325/.416/.546 (149 OPS+), cracking the NL’s top 10 in batting average, on-base percentage, and OPS+. His 8.3 WAR ranked second in the league behind Albert Pujols‘ 8.7 and surpassed Beltrán’s 8.2 from the year before as the highest single-season WAR by a Mets position player. He also won the first of his back-to-back Gold Gloves. Alas, it wasn’t enough; despite Wright’s .352/.432/.602 in September, the team went 5-12 over its final 17 games while the Phillies went 13-4, snatching the division title away on the season’s final day. Wright finished fourth in the NL MVP voting, the highest placement he would ever get, though even if the Mets had won, he might have lost out to the Rockies’ Matt Holliday, who finished a close second behind the Phillies’ Jimmy Rollins.

In 2008, Wright hit .302/.390/.534 (142 OPS+) with a career-high 33 homers and 6.9 WAR (fifth in the league), and again he sizzled in September (.340/.416/.577). The Mets, however, fizzled, going 89-73 but blowing a 3.5-game NL East lead from September 10 onward by going 7-10, and losing out on the Wild Card berth as well with a loss and a Brewers win on the season’s final day.

The Mets moved from Shea Stadium to Citi Field in 2009, and suffered a severe power outage in doing so given the new park’s pitcher-friendliness; as a team, they dropped from 172 homers in 2008 (tied for 13th in the majors) to 95 (dead last by 27 homers). While Wright posted nearly identical AVG and OBP numbers to 2008, his SLG dropped by 87 points as he hit .307/.390/.447 (124 OPS+) with just 10 homers, not to mention a strikeout rate that spiked from 16% to 22.7%. Worse, he suffered a concussion on August 15, when he was beaned by a fastball from the Giants’ Matt Cain. He missed 15 days and struggled in September upon returning, both with and without the oversized “Great Gazoo” helmet he wore in an attempt to prevent a second concussion, only to decide it was too uncomfortable.

The new ballpark’s cavernous dimensions had gotten to Wright. “He steered the ball to right,” an NL scout told Sports Illustrated’s Lee Jenkins. “Even in hitter’s counts, it’s like he was trying to flip it over the second baseman’s head.” Wright concurred, saying, “At times I did settle for punching the ball the other way, rather than really trying to drive it.”

As the Mets continued to wallow in 70-something win irrelevance and dysfunction, Wright sandwiched two strong seasons around a disappointing, injury-marked one. He rebounded to 29 homers with a 131 OPS+ in 2010, though his -14 DRS limited him to 2.8 WAR. A stress fracture in his lower back — thought to have originated when he dove to make a tag on April 19 — knocked him out of action for over two months in 2011, limiting him to 102 games and 2.1 WAR. He came back strong, hitting .306/.391/.492 (144 OPS+) with 21 homers, 16 DRS, and 7.1 WAR in 2012, making the All-Star team again after missing the year before. On August 24, he ended a four-week homerless drought by connecting for his 200th career homer, a solo shot off Jordan Lyles.

After the 2012 season, the Mets first picked up Wright’s $16 million option, then reworked that into an eight-year, $138 million extension that he signed in December, covering his ages 30–37 seasons. At the time, it was the largest deal in franchise history, and in some sense, a reaction to having let Reyes depart as a free agent after the 2011 season.

Wright made his seventh and final All-Star team in 2013, hitting for a 156 OPS+ with 5.2 WAR even while missing seven weeks due to a hamstring strain. From there, however, it was mostly downhill. His slugging percentage was already below .400 when he bruised his left rotator cuff while making a rare headfirst slide on June 12, 2014. He aggravated it a couple weeks later, and missed a week. The injury hampered his swing, and continued inflammation forced him to shut down for the season after September 8; he finished with a 101 OPS+ and 2.1 WAR in 134 games.

On April 14, 2015, in the eighth game of the season, Wright strained his right hamstring while stealing second base. He landed on what was then the disabled list, and experienced recurring lower back tightness while rehabbing. In May, he was diagnosed with spinal stenosis, a narrowing of the spinal canal that causes inflammation of the spinal nerves and that typically occurs in individuals in their 50s or older. At the time it looked as though he might be done for the season, but Wright rehabbed diligently, altering his mechanics to use his hips and core more to alleviate stress on his back, and to focus more on his feet when throwing. He rejoined a Mets team that was in first place atop the NL East, returning to the lineup on August 24 after a rehab stint. He clubbed an upper-deck homer off the Phillies’ Adam Morgan in his first plate appearance, then scored two more runs after getting on base via a single and a walk.

Wright played regularly at third base for the rest of the season, hitting .289/.379/.434 in 38 games. The Mets won the NL East, then beat the Dodgers in the Division Series and the Cubs in the NLCS. Wright went just 1-for-16 against the Dodgers, but he drove in two of the Mets’ three runs with a single off Pedro Báez — who had just replaced Clayton Kershaw — in a Game 1 victory. Against the Cubs, he doubled in a run off the nearly untouchable Jake Arrieta in the first inning of a Game 2 victory, went 3-for-4 with a walk and two runs scored in a Game 3 win, and scored twice after walking as the Mets completed the sweep. He went just 5-for-24 in the Mets’ World Series loss to the Royals, but he did hit a two-run homer off Yordano Ventura in Game 3, then later added a two-run single in what would be the Mets’ only win of the series.

Despite the loss, the Mets had reason for optimism given that Wright opened the 2016 season at third base. He was hot for the season’s first couple of weeks, but cooled off and slipped into a 4-for-37 slump. Just as he began to emerge from it with a six-game hitting streak that included three straight games with homers, he was sidelined by a herniated cervical disc in early June, and on June 16 underwent season-ending surgery. He didn’t play at all at the major league level in 2017, attempting to rehab his neck, back and right shoulder; a rehab assignment at A-level St. Lucie lasted just three games in late August before he was shut down due to right shoulder pain. He underwent surgery on his right rotator cuff in September, then a laminotomy — a surgery to remove a piece of bone and reduce the pressure on the spine — in October.

In the wake of the surgery, the 35-year-old Wright wasn’t cleared to begin baseball activities until June 2018. He had to re-learn the mechanics of throwing, and to begin his pregame exercises to prepare his neck, back, and shoulder at 1:30 pm for a night game. Some level of pain was a constant. From a profile by The Athletic’s Marc Carig:

A good day means dull pain, the kind that can be worked around with the help of a consistent workout routine. A bad day means sharp pain, the kind that can be negotiated with, though only with a lot of time and effort. Then there are the most agonizing days, when his battered body refuses to cooperate. On one of these mornings, Wright awakened only to realize that he could not move.

Wright began a rehab assignment on August 11, but started off 0-for-14, and hit just .171/.209/.195 in 12 games, 10 at St. Lucie and two at Triple-A Las Vegas. Just as excitement built about his possible return — anything to make what would become a 77-85 season more bearable — the Mets poured cold water on it, with assistant general manager John Ricco saying, “It’s unrealistic to think he would be activated anytime soon, based on what we have seen to this point… [W]e tried to put in place a program that he could come back and show us he’s ready to be a major league player and so far he hasn’t reached that, whether it’s in terms of the playing time or playing skill.”

The truth was that the Mets, in searching for a new nadir, were putting financial concerns ahead of everything else. The team’s insurance on Wright’s contract reportedly paid them 75% of his salary ($15 million out of $20 million for 2018) once he missed at least 60 days. Activating him would reset the 60-day count, meaning the Mets would (gasp) have to pay him to play, or not play, for two months. The Mets loved David Wright, but appeared not to love him enough to pay him $3.2 million out of their own pockets for the month during an otherwise forgettable season.

Ultimately, the Mets relented. They activated Wright on September 28, when he pinch-hit for Paul Sewald against the Marlins’ Jose Urena and grounded out. The next night, in front of a packed Citi Field crowd and for the first time in 854 days, he started at third base. He made one play on a weak grounder at third, and walked and popped out foul against Trevor Richards, then departed after briefly taking the field at the top of the fifth inning.

“I can’t sit here and tell you that I’m good with where I’m at right now,” Wright said afterwards. “That would be a lie and that would be false, because you love something so much and you want to continue that. I got a little taste of that, and I’m already feeling it physically. It was a wonderful night… I’d like to wear the jersey a little longer.”

After the season, with the help of Major League Baseball, the Mets and their insurance company reached a settlement on the $27 million they still owed Wright, whom they deemed physically unable to play. Wright agreed to restructure his deal to save the team some money. He was formally released and then was named a special advisor to chief operating officer Jeff Wilpon and general manager Brodie Van Wagenen.

Because he played in just 77 games after his age-31 season, Wright wound up with fewer games played (1,585) and plate appearances (6,872) than any post-1960 expansion era position player in the Hall of Fame; he has 91 fewer games and eight fewer plate appearances than 2022 Golden Days Era Committee honoree Tony Oliva, the low man in both of those categories. He’s got a higher OPS+, WAR, JAWS, and relative ranking at his position than Oliva, who wasn’t elected until he was (maybe) 83 years old, 46 years after his final game. Wright isn’t as close to 2,000 hits as Oliva (1,917) or even this ballot’s Chase Utley (1,885), the focal point of my case for short-career, high-peak players.

But where Utley is just 0.2 short of the JAWS standard at second base (57.1) and ranks 12th at the position, Wright is 12 points short of the standard at third base (56.3), ranking 27th, between Ron Cey and Josh Donaldson. He’s 23 spots and nearly 27 points behind 2024 honoree Adrián Beltré (71.1 JAWS), and 17 spots and over 15 point behind ’23 honoree Scott Rolen (56.9 JAWS). Of the 17 non-Negro Leagues third basemen in the Hall, Wright outranks only four of them, namely Deacon White, George Kell, Pie Traynor, and Freddie Lindstrom. At a position that’s still under-represented despite this week’s election of Dick Allen, he’s behind a handful of unenshrined third basemen I feel more strongly deserve the honor, such as Ken Boyer, Buddy Bell, Graig Nettles, and Sal Bando.

I can’t really make a good case for Wright to be in the Hall, but last year The Athletic’s Jayson Stark took a swing at doing so, suggesting that he at least deserves a longer look instead of going one-and-done, and I have no quarrel with that. I do believe Wright was on a Hall of Fame path before the injuries destroyed his career. He was certainly one of the elite players of his era; his 44.4 WAR from 2005–13 is tied with Robinson Canó for sixth behind Pujols, Utley, Miguel Cabrera, Beltré, and Alex Rodriguez (just 0.2 behind him), and is ahead of Joe Mauer and Beltrán, both of whom I’ve voted for. That’s good company, PED infractions notwithstanding.

Last summer, in checking in on the progress that current players are making towards Cooperstown, I did a little number crunching that illustrated the power of a 40.0 WAR peak score. What I found was that of the eligible players reaching 40.0 WAR during their best seven seasons — weeding out those active, not yet eligible, or not eligible at all (Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson), and adjusting downward to 32.0 WAR for catchers, whose values are constrained by limitations of playing time — over three-quarters are enshrined, including those in the Class of 2024 (Beltré, Mauer, and Todd Helton):

The 40+ Peak Club
Position 40+ Peak HOF 40+ Not Elig Pct HOF
C 16 11 1 73.3%
1B 21 14 4 82.4%
2B 16 12 2 85.7%
SS 21 15 1 75.0%
3B 21 11 5 68.8%
LF 11 9 1 90.0%
CF 18 10 1 58.8%
RF 21 14 4 82.4%
Total 145 96 19 76.2%
SOURCE: Baseball-Reference
Peak = player’s best seven seasons using bWAR. Not Elig = includes active or recently retired players as well as those on the permanently ineligible list.

Wright is just short of the mark at 39.5, but if we lower the threshold to 39 WAR, the percentage only drops to 73.9% (105 out of 142 eligible qualifiers). Even if we don’t lower it, I don’t think it’s a stretch to believe that given a normal career progression, Wright would have been capable of improving upon that score by half a win somewhere after his age-31 season; his seventh-best season was worth a modest 3.2 WAR.

As for the Mattingly comparison, while the two players do share similarities, Wright was the more valuable hitter on a career basis, though the biggest gap between them owes to the value of playing third base:

David Wright vs. Don Mattingly
Player PA OPS+ Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos WAR
Don Mattingly 7722 127 227 4 0 33 -97 42.4
David Wright 6872 133 285 14 -12 -25 33 49.2
SOURCE: Baseball-Reference
Rbat = Runs from batting, Rbase = runs from baserunning, Rdp = runs from grounding into double plays, Rfield = runs from fielding, Rpos = runs from positional scarcity

Wright is closer to the career, peak and JAWS standards at third base than Mattingly (42.4 career WAR, 35.7 peak WAR, 39.1 JAWS) is at first; Donnie Baseball is 39th at his position, 14.3 points below the standard.

Two years ago, in my third season as a Hall voter, I included just seven names on my ballot, the fewest in at least 11 years of virtual and actual ballots dating back to when I moved JAWS from Baseball Prospectus WARP to Baseball Reference WAR. I spent the next year mulling whether I should have used those remaining slots to cast votes for players a bit further down on my scale, and last year, I resolved to do so if I had a free spot again. While I considered Wright for that spot, I instead tabbed Andy Pettitte for the first time, deciding that the scarcity of recent starting pitchers, and the length of his postseason resumé elevated him above the other non-PED options I had. Wright received just 6.2% of the vote, clearing the bar to retain his eligibility by just four votes.

Assuming I have another spot or two up for grabs at the end of my ballot, Wright will be in the mix, as will first-year candidate Dustin Pedroia, another player on a Hall path before a career-ending injury. If I’m thinking about high-peak, short-career players who may be short of the JAWS standard, Félix Hernández will probably be in the conversation as well. I don’t yet know which way I’ll go and I don’t think it will amount to much, but in the spirit of saluting what might have been, I’m happy to continue thinking about all of these players.





Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.

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David Klein
1 year ago

Easily my fav athlete of all-time, he was so great at everything. I miss watching him play and it is a shame that some of the fanbase never appreciated him and no idea why his number hasn’t been retired yet. I still get goosebumps when I watch his home run in game three of the 2015 World Series. The Wilpons taking away his power alley with the original citi field dimensions was just another reason to hate them. It is a damn shame about his back I believe he had a higher war in his 20’s than Beltre did in his 20’s of course Beltre soared in his 30’s while Wright missed so much time and had to retire early.

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sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago

This is the first time I caught that there were two things that together destroyed his Hall of Fame chances, not just one. The first one, which I knew about, was that spinal stenosis destroyed his career, rendering him a shell of his former self and unable to get on the field for the tail end of his career. But the other one I had missed, which was that his defensive numbers took a huge nosedive between 2009 and 2011.

He went from a +6 defender by UZR in 2007 and 2008 to a -10 defender between 2009 and 2011 before bouncing back in 2012. The offensive dip from 2009 to 2011 wasn’t great but I think the injuries suffered in that timeframe probably had an even bigger impact on his defense. It looks like it lopped a full win, maybe a win and a half off of his fWAR in all three seasons. That would have changed the narrative about his peak and given him a chance kind of like Todd Helton to sneak in on peak value.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yeah, I do think that there’s a solid chance that even if Wright had been *able* to keep playing, the arc would have looked like post-ACL McCutcheon, wherein he gets enough PA as an “Unofficial Coach”/mascot to reach 2000 hits/300 HR, but he’s still done as an effective player.

Pirates HurdlesMember since 2024
1 year ago

If only you could blame Cutch’s decline on that ACL in 2019, but truth is he went off a cliff at 29 (2016) rather inexplicably. The only thing I recall was him being moved from the 3 spot to the 2 spot that year. There was just no way to see it coming that young. At least holding on as a 110 wRC+ type bat for several more years has given him counting stats that align with a high profile early career narrative. He will likely need 3 more years like this to get to 2500 hits and a chance at the Hall and I doubt he has that left at 38.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
1 year ago

Cutch averaged 2.8 fWAR/650 (with a 120 wRC+!) from 30-32, at which point he tore his ACL.

When healthy again at 34, he put up a 108 wRC+ with 1.4 WAR.

Take out the catastrophic injury, and his Hall case is essentially “Todd Helton, but a great person rather than an absurdly shitty one.”

Pirates HurdlesMember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Combine that bad D with fairly meh offense (for him) those same 3 years and you have a weird 3 year stretch in his prime where he only totaled 8 WAR when you might have projected 18, ie enough to be HoF worthy on a great 7 year peak.

treebeardedMember since 2019
1 year ago

Lifelong Mets fan here – Wright is unquestionably my favorite Met of all time (with Edgardo Alfonzo a close second). He was a pure, patient, solid hitter, the kind that other teams seem to pump out on an assembly line while the Mets always fall woefully short. He is a treasure, and I’m happy to have been a fan of his during his prime, despite the Metsyness of the Mets during that era suppressing his playoff chances, where he would have had a chance to shine even more on the national stage. I don’t know if he’s a HOFer, but he’s still, and will always be, a legendary Met.

RyanMember since 2024
1 year ago

I have no official process or scientific method, but I enjoy pretending via the crowdsourcing that I have a vote. I included Wright in my 10 selections this year. My process first involves checking if a guy was a factor for ~10 seasons and then looking at the leaderboards in the seasons that they played (leeway is given on cup-o-coffee years), in Wright’s case: 2004-2018. During that time, he was nowhere near the leaders in games or PA, but he was 11th in WAR and 9th in offensive value. Combined with the fact that those higher than him are the who’s who of HOF caliber: Cabrera, Pujols, Trout, Votto, Mauer, etc. was reason enough for me.

The HOF, to me, is about the era that players played in and this era is not complete without including David Wright.

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NATS FanMember since 2018
1 year ago
Reply to  Ryan

what about Ryan Zimmerman then?

Mitchell MooreMember since 2020
1 year ago

My down and dirty idiosyncratic lazy person’s method of assessing a player’s HOF case is to situate him amongst his peers over the specific period he was a stud player, as defined by me, of course.

In David Wright’s case, that would be the ten season, 2004-2013 window. Sorting by fWAR, because FanGraphs version is fine enough for my purposes and I don’t care to search/sort another site, Wright’s 48.7 WAR for the period is sixth best overall, and all others in the top seven are, soon will be, or would be if they weren’t an insufferable, notorious PED-using douchebag, in the HOF.

Wright’s situation reminds me something of Ken Boyer’s, whose HOF case Jay recently addressed. Obviously, Boyer’s career wasn’t sabotaged by injury/infirmity like Wright, but over Boyer’s nine season, 1956-1964 window as a stud ballplayer his 48.8 fWAR is also sixth best for the period, and nine of the other top ten on the list are HOFers.

Even though both Wright and Boyer come up just short of my arbitrary standard for inclusion according to my method – minimum 50 fWAR for a given player’s studly period – I’d probably be inclined, in keeping with the arbitrary nature of the standard and the method, to vote for both.

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Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Mitchell Moore

Damn solid method, haha – McCutcheon had 48.8 through his ACL tear!

compucles
1 year ago
Reply to  Mitchell Moore

Keep in mind that you’re cherry-picking comparisons to players whose peaks just happened to line up pretty closely with the specific player in question, or players who were just so good that they still have better numbers when measuring partly outside their peak. There should be others in the same era who were better players, but their numbers for the specific range of years you checked don’t match up only due to their peaks being off-center by just 5 years or so or even as small as just a 2 or 3 year difference.

Then there’s also the matter of longevity rather than just peak.

Last edited 1 year ago by compucles
Mitchell MooreMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  compucles

You are no doubt correct in every particular. But in my defense, I’m uncertain what part of “down and dirty, idiosyncratic, lazy person’s method” is unclear.

AlbyMember since 2025
1 year ago

“I’m happy to continue thinking about all of these players.”

And that’s the folly of a small hall: It deprives future fans of the chance to think about such players.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
1 year ago

If Dave Parker made it with a similar career arc I wouldn’t totally dismiss his chances. I wouldn’t vote for him but I wouldn’t be sad if he made it either

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

He seems like a viable veterans committee candidate. He has the sort of aura they like.

Chip LockeMember since 2016
1 year ago

I’m very surprised he didn’t have more traction in his first year. Not that I think he is necessarily a hall of famer, but he had a hall of fame peak, was beloved, and played in New York.

I guess it’s similar to Johan, but that equally surprises me and speaks more to the idea that we are misattributing longevity as more important than greatness. And that, to me, sucks.

mookie28Member since 2016
1 year ago

Strawberry went 30-30 in 1987 so wright was 3rd, not 2nd.

Also as a big mets fan this will be blasphemy but Wright was not the player Mattingly was. Wright barely played after his major injury so his rate numbers didn’t drop the way Mattinglys did, but call it 1982-89 and Mattingly’s offensive numbers were definitely better than DW in a more pitching friendly environment and Donnie won 9 gold gloves. Mattingly also won an MVP, a batting title, led the league in hits multiple times , and had seasons where he led the league in RBI, OPS and doubles.

Again love DW but Mattingly was a better player who had a similar injury that highly impacted his career

mookie28Member since 2016
1 year ago
Reply to  mookie28

84-89 Mattingly hit .327 with .902 ops and 147 ops+, and averaged 5.5 War per season.

04-09 wright hit .305 with .899 ops and 136 ops+ and averaged 4.6 War per season.

It might seem cherry picked but 1990 is when Mattingly’s career just fell apart with injuries. He managed to play a few more years but his power was completely sapped at that point. Wrights numbers hold up better than I thought but still a little light in comparison and in a more offensively charged era.

hurricanexyzMember since 2016
1 year ago

Kirby Puckett feels like another relevant comparison, for Hall purposes

LMOTFOTEMember since 2017
1 year ago

His case seems really close with Pedroia, but with Pedroia getting more credit for awards and postseason.