Jeff Sullivan FanGraphs Chat — 1/19/18

9:03

Jeff Sullivan: Hello friends

9:03

Jeff Sullivan: Welcome to Friday baseball chat

9:03

Jeff Sullivan: Although that’s Friday baseball chat with an asterisk: there’s a decent chance that in about half an hour I’m going to have to go give someone an emergency ride to a wedding

9:04

Jeff Sullivan: Not ideal! But here we are. I hope it works out

9:04

Bork: Hello, friend, and welcome back!

9:04

Jeff Sullivan: Hello friend

9:04

LudeBurger: Jeff is back!!!!

9:04

Jeff Sullivan: Kind of!

9:04

Jimmy: Any advice for someone about to propose?

9:04

Jeff Sullivan: As long as you know it’s the right person just don’t overthink it

9:05

Jeff Sullivan: Although at the same time do remember that you’ll be repeating the story for the rest of your life

9:05

CamdenWarehouse: Congratulations, Jeff!  I am the only one who feels like Jules saying “Say ‘collusion’ one more time” this winter?

9:06

Jeff Sullivan: It’s of course a very complicated situation that’s playing out. And there’s a whole conversation to be had about whether it counts as collusion if teams are just uniform in the way they evaluate available players. Not an easy answer to that one but it’s unquestionably where we are today

9:06

CJL: Astros still don’t have even an average/reliable LHH reliever. Is it really that important to have one? Does Tony Watson make too much sense or Liriano back on a shorter deal?

9:06

Jeff Sullivan: Given that they literally just won the World Series, no, it’s not a necessity, but they can and should do better than Liriano anyhow

9:06

Jeff Sullivan: With Watson, yeah, he works, and you don’t have to think very hard

9:07

R: Have you ever read Nate Silver’s book, “The Signal and the Noise”?

9:07

Jeff Sullivan: That’s one of several books I haven’t had to actually read because I end up consuming it indirectly through other content

9:08

Nelson: I know it seems like recency bias, but will we ever again see Yankees, Cubs, Dodgers or Bosox dwelling in the cellar for 4-5 years straight? Do they have advantages now that they didnt have when they had runs of being doormats in the past?

9:08

Jeff Sullivan: Hard to imagine any of the major markets being terrible for that long, but then, we have had the Phillies. And most importantly, “ever” is a long time, and god knows what the next CBAs are going to do about parity and revenue sharing

9:09

Tim: Rank my bold predictions for this season from most to least ridiculous:

1. David Price’s elbow stays intact and he finally pitches like the guy the Red Sox thought they were getting when they signed him — in fact, he has such a good year that he opts out of his contract after the season
2. Giancarlo Stanton suffers through an injury-plagued, disappointing debut season in New York, while Aaron Judge has a sophomore slump as the Yankees miss the postseason
3. This is finally the season Kevin Kiermaier doesn’t suffer a freak injury that puts him on the DL for two and a half months, he builds off the offensive progress he showed last year, Willy Adames comes up and challenges for AL Rookie of the Year like 2013 Wil Myers, and they lead the Rays to a Wild Card
4. The Cardinals reclaim the NL Central from the Cubs
5. Christian Yelich, J.T. Realmuto and Justin Bour are all traded before the end of the season, and the Marlins set a new modern MLB record with 121 losses

9:09

Jeff Sullivan: Please shorten this to like 50 words

9:10

Wes: What does Martin Perez need to do differently to become a #3 or better?

9:10

Jeff Sullivan: Miss a bat every now and then. He doesn’t have the command to be so contact-reliant

9:10

Juan: As of today, when do you think the Padres window opens?

9:11

Jeff Sullivan: They’ll be written up as a dark horse in 2019 but I think it’s more like 2020

9:11

Sharp: Tony Watson is still on the market.  Assuming regression in from a bad BABIP year and a maintenance of the peripherals from last year, he seems to be one of the best LOOGYs on the market.  Are there really no playoff teams that need lefties?

9:11

Jeff Sullivan: He’ll get a job, and he’ll get a contract that looks familiar, given all the other reliever contracts

9:12

Brett W: How much is Lorenzo Cain going to get guaranteed this late in winter? Will fringe teams enter his market as a result of falling price?

9:12

Jeff Sullivan: That’s the way it goes, right? Few teams interested at peak price, so the price tag drops, so more teams get involved, so the price tag goes up

9:12

Jeff Sullivan: I think Cain could have trouble getting his fourth year, but three years and an option at strong salaries ought still be reasonable

9:13

Bruce: Pujols has 105 more BB than Ks for his career. What chance does he have to keep it in the black until he retires?

9:13

Jeff Sullivan: He’ll basically have to retire around the middle of 2019. Which, actually…

9:14

Sim: Unfortunately I am a Mets fan. Please tell me what we need to happen to make the playoffs this year. If our pitching staff stays healthy is that enough?

9:14

Jeff Sullivan: Healthy Syndergaard, Conforto comes back around May 1 showing few ill effects from surgery. Obviously there’s more to it than that, but when you have Syndergaard slotted in at No. 1 once or twice every week, it makes an enormous difference. Mets could definitely grab a wild card

9:15

LarryA: It surprised me that the Mariners own pro sports longest active non-playoff streak, but its not really that long ago when you consider that Jaromir Jagr already had 1079 pts the last time the mariners made the postseason, and hes still playing.

9:16

Jeff Sullivan: The last time the Mariners made the playoffs, Kevin Maitan couldn’t talk

9:16

Daniel Castro: I’m a toolsy infielder with a thunderous bat. Why do your coworkers hate me so?

9:16

Jeff Sullivan: Ask them

9:16

IsBrittonInYet: How should the Jays front office spend their rumored remaining 15 million? Is SP or OF more pressing?

9:17

Jeff Sullivan: Looks to me like it’s the rotation

9:18

Hack Wilson: If the Twins land Yu Darvish are the a WC favorite? What else can/should they do to strengthen their pursuit of the Indians?

9:19

Jeff Sullivan: Even with Darvish, I think the Twins are a ways back of the Indians, and I still wouldn’t think they’re as good as the Angels, who look like the best WC2 contender. Doesn’t mean, of course, the Twins would be screwed — we’d be talking about some narrow margins here. They mostly just need the lineup to keep up its improvements from last season and it helps to have three bad teams in the division

9:20

Jorge: Besides the Padres and brown, what’s the one throwback that a team is overdue for returning to?

9:20

Jeff Sullivan: I’m biased, but Mariners/trident

9:20

anonymous applicant: when do I get my rejection notice? the non-suspenseful suspense is killing me!

9:20

Jeff Sullivan: I’m not actually involved in the hiring process, but there were several hundred applications sent in, and every single one of them is being read. So it’s taking a while

9:20

Jeff Sullivan: Expect a resolution within…two or three weeks?

9:21

Colin: Dave said Dellin Betances was the most likely player to be traded in the offseason.  Do you think that will still happen?

9:21

Jeff Sullivan: Not anymore. Change at manager probably made a difference

9:21

Dan: Do you think any free agents will actually hold out into the season?

9:21

Jeff Sullivan: Not because they want to

9:21

Donaldson Ducks: Thoughts on Dave leaving for San Diego?

9:22

Jeff Sullivan: I talked a lot with him throughout the process and the Padres really did make it impossible for him to turn the opportunity down. I know he never imagined leaving FanGraphs for a team, but it was simply too good to pass up. I was nervous about losing him as a colleague, given that he’s served as the face of FG, but now I’m confident that we’ll be fine, in large part because I love having Kiley back

9:23

Jeff Sullivan: And now instead of being a friend and a coworker, Dave is a friend and a source!

9:24

Jeff Sullivan: Impossible to know how well it will all go for Dave, but I believe in him as a department manager

9:24

Santo: If Ervin Santana (34 yrs old) can get another 500 Ks in 4 years before retiring, he will finish Top 50 career Ks in the history of baseball! Ervin Santana!

9:24

Jeff Sullivan: God bless the strikeout era!

9:24

Jim: Jeff, cool chart with the player WARs sorted by first name. But you gotta freeze the header row, man!

9:25

Jeff Sullivan: That process was all Ben. Complain at Ben!

9:25

Jason: When will the first major free agent sign, and how quickly will the rest of the dominoes fall after that?

9:25

Jeff Sullivan: I’d say that Carlos Santana and Wade Davis kind of count as major free agents

9:26

Jeff Sullivan: But my gut feeling is that Hosmer will make a decision before too terribly long. And there will be a run on free agents in the weeks leading up to the start of ST

9:26

Brandon: Saw a BP writer say he prefers robles over acuna. why is he definitively wrong

9:27

Jeff Sullivan: He’s not

9:27

Mike M: Next 10 years – Ian Happ or Andrew Benintendi. Who ya got?

9:27

Jeff Sullivan: Benintendi

9:27

Lunar verLander: Smart move by you to turn off the hot stove while you were on vacation. You can turn it back on anytime you’d like.

9:27

Jeff Sullivan: Thanks! But I still have to get resettled. Maybe next Wednesday or Thursday

9:28

Eric: How much PA do you think Chris Taylor gets next year?  And can he roughly repeat his 2017?

9:28

Jeff Sullivan: His actual 2017 was presumably over his head, but he’s going to play as a near-everyday player, and he’ll be a good one. Probably something like 3 WAR, give or take

9:29

FL IBWIP: Happy Friday Jeff! Who is more likely of the three young shortstops listed to breakout at the plate this year? Tim Anderson, Orlando Arcia, or Addison Russell. My money is on Arcia if he is moved up in the lineup.

9:29

Jeff Sullivan: I’ll give Arcia a slight edge over Russell, with a gap between them and Anderson

9:29

Michael Kopech: Am I going to be in the majors before June? And how much WAR will I rack up by the end of the season?

9:30

Jeff Sullivan: I would expect Kopech more around August or so, but if he’s up before June, it’s because he’s learned to throw consistent strikes, and has become unhittable

9:30

Scott: If you were the Giants, would you feel okay with Chris Stratton as your #4 starter?

9:30

Jeff Sullivan: I haven’t actually written it yet because, you know, Chris Stratton, but I see things in there to like just fine for a back-of-the-rotation starter

9:30

Jeff Sullivan: Don’t think there’s a huge difference between Stratton and Tyler Chatwood

9:31

Pie: I was also in Patagonia last week. I expected to see you, but then I realized it’s a massive place and also I don’t know what you look like

9:31

Jeff Sullivan: I look like every other tourist in Patagonia. But I will say that while it is indeed an enormous place, most people collect in like the same three or four spots

9:31

Zac: Where do you rate on the scouting scale as an emergency wedding driver?

9:32

Jeff Sullivan: Possibility for snow on this drive, so, 30

9:32

gump: Are Patagonia trips less expensive than I’d think, are you way more frugal than we know, or does FG absolutely print money? Also, congrats!

9:32

Jeff Sullivan: Every year I make 1.5 million dollars

9:33

Jeff Sullivan: So actually, I don’t know what you think, but it’s not horribly expensive, and though the travel times suck, it’s pretty affordable once you’re down there to do a lot of cool stuff. That is, if you’re a hiker/camper/climber/whatever

9:33

Grover: If you had to bet on where Kershaw would be playing in 2019, would you take the Dodgers or the field?

9:33

Jeff Sullivan: Dodgers

9:34

Bobopedia: Given age, performance, arbitration status, etc., is there a case to be made that Roberto Osuna is the most valuable reliever in baseball?

9:35

Jeff Sullivan: There’s a case, sure. But I don’t think age makes the same difference for pitchers as it does for position players, and would you rather have three years of Osuna or, like, five years of Chad Green?

9:36

Snid: How much do you put in to players who alter their swings for more flyballs? Passing whim? Effective?

9:36

Jeff Sullivan: Depends entirely on the player. For some guys it obviously works. For someone like Gregory Polanco, it can mess a guy up. I don’t think it’s a fix for every struggling hitter in the minors, but for a number of guys it’s something they’ve never thought about doing before, and the game clearly encourages it

9:37

Drew: Will the MLBPA ever get its head out it’s collective ass?

9:37

Jeff Sullivan: Yes

9:37

Eso Sannis: What TV show really needs to get a reunion season?

9:37

Jeff Sullivan: Not a single one of them. Dead things should stay dead

9:38

Mike Scioscia: Hi Jeff, do I need to worry about my job? I’m pretty sure I can get the Angels into a wild card. I could use Yu Darvish but I don’t think Arte will let me have him.

9:38

Jeff Sullivan: Last year of the big contract. On the one hand, it’s probably about time for Eppler to find his own guy, but on the other hand, Scioscia might be the last of the old-school managers, with legitimate front-office pull. Hard to imagine the Angels without him

9:38

Henryv: If offered a job with the Yankees writing esoteric and snarky internal memos, what would be your fiscal demands?

9:39

Jeff Sullivan: Do I have to move?

9:39

Jeff Sullivan: If I have to move, $250,000

9:39

Jeff Sullivan: If I don’t have to move, $150,000

9:40

John M.: Are the Cardinals seriously going to go into April with Gregorson as the closer? I can’t believe they would do this and lower the payroll after stating a need for a closer and saying they can push the payroll up.

9:40

Jeff Sullivan: Decent chance they begin with Gregerson as the closer but far, far lower chance that’s how they finish

9:41

Bork: Is this emergency ride to a wedding, your wedding? Are you chatting on your wedding day?

9:41

Jeff Sullivan: I wouldn’t do that, but I’ll note that Ben Lindbergh podcasted on his wedding day

9:42

nick in cleveland: Hi Jeff, welcome back!  I’m trying to better understand the value of top prospects.  For example, would a trade between the Indians and Marlins, swapping top catching prospect in baseball Francisco Mejia for Christian Yelich, be about fair for both sides, value-wise?  An overpay by Cleveland?  Underpay?  I’m just not sure.

9:43

Jeff Sullivan: My sense is the Indians would have to include another, say, two decent prospects. Maybe one pretty good prospect and a couple of fliers. Mejia is super promising, but Yelich is enormously valuable right now, and especially to a club like Cleveland

9:44

groucho: What’s could the cardinals reasonably do before the season to close the gap with the cubs?

9:44

Jeff Sullivan: Add some form of impact reliever

9:45

Jeff Sullivan: Now, I do not believe that impact reliever is Greg Holland

9:47

Jamie: Which of this year’s remaining FAs take a pillow contract and which should?

9:47

Jeff Sullivan: I think Jonathan Lucroy might want to give it a year to try to reestablish his bat

9:47

Jeff Sullivan: …in a non-Colorado environment

9:48

Scott: If you were a GM and had to trust either Carson or Dave to pick a non-Top 100 prospect to become a good major leaguer, who would you pick?

9:50

Jeff Sullivan: Dave. But I’d trust Carson if it was a non-top 500 prospect

9:51

Sharp: For regular posters, do you start to remember their question types and team affiliations after a while?

9:52

Jeff Sullivan: For a few of them, yeah, but I try not to look at the username because I don’t want to introduce any biases

9:52

Jeff Sullivan: Like, I know that some friends of mine come to these chats and I don’t want to end up selecting all their questions just because we sometimes have beer together

9:53

Mike: Hunter Pence  and 2 of Giants top 3prospects for Avi Garcia?  Who says no?

9:53

Jeff Sullivan: This would not be a good idea for the Giants

9:53

Jeff Sullivan: I don’t think Garcia is very good, and he has just two years left. Just go sign Dyson or Cain or something

9:53

Ham Porter: Which team is going to see the biggest year-over-year gain in Wins?

9:53

Jeff Sullivan: Giants, almost certainly

9:54

Oddball Herrera: “whether it counts as collusion if teams are just uniform in the way they evaluate available players”  Hold on, so teams making logical decisions is evidence of collusion?  Seems like the principle of collusion is preventing anti-competitive behavior (i.e. price fixing).  This here is just the market being more rational.

9:54

Jeff Sullivan: I don’t know nearly enough to be able to speak to this with authority. I just know some about what’s being discussed. It’s only natural that teams would get to this point; it’s only natural that the players wouldn’t be thrilled by the development

9:54

Carl: More and more, I think the Pirates have a shot at contention this year, assuming Polanco and Marte play up to snuff.  Am I nuts?

9:55

Jeff Sullivan: I don’t think you’re nuts. Honestly, I think they’re still okay. I don’t think they’re *good*, but if, say, Tyler Glasnow gains three or four points on his strike rate, that’s a heck of a starting point

9:56

Jeff Sullivan: The Pirates strike me as being similar to the Rays. In a situation where they keep playing for .500. That’s not good but that’s also not bad when you only need about 86-88 wins to make the playoffs

9:56

Dan Duquette: What pitchers should I target this offseason? Is there any hope for the Orioles to be competitive?

9:56

Jeff Sullivan: Slim hope. Get, I don’t know, Trevor Cahill? And maybe go after Luis Perdomo or something

9:56

Well-Beered Englishman: So what’s the emergency wedding story?

9:57

Jeff Sullivan: Good news is, I don’t have to give the ride after all!

9:57

Jeff Sullivan: But my fiancee does occasional wedding photography on the side and she nearly missed a shuttle connection. Which would’ve required that I go get her and drive her up to Mt Hood

9:59

Magic 8 Ball: Suppose Dodgers want to add Yu and need to clear $30M of Kemp’s salary. Which prospect(s) would the Dodgers have to add to Kemp in a trade package?

10:00

Jeff Sullivan: Firstly, the more I think about it, the hell with the luxury tax. The Dodgers can afford an overage. It’s not that big a deal

10:00

Jeff Sullivan: But, whatever, let’s play along with the hypothetical

10:01

Jeff Sullivan: Yusniel Diaz should get it done

10:01

Jeff Sullivan: Or, if not him, someone much like him

10:02

@Ryan0Deal: Do you ever forget about players who broke out at this point in the offseason? I just remembered that Chris Taylor is good now

10:02

Jeff Sullivan: For me, I haven’t forgotten the breakouts, but after basically avoiding baseball and the internet for the better part of three weeks, I’ve forgotten some semi-major transactions

10:03

Jeff Sullivan: Like, I had to remind myself where Bryan Mitchell was

10:03

Jeff Sullivan: And the whole Matt Kemp/etc Dodgers/Braves move had been erased from my consciousness

10:05

TJ: Any chance the Yankees give up a top 5 prospect just to get rid of the Ellsbury contract? How likely is a trade at this point?

10:06

Jeff Sullivan: Ellsbury is due almost another $70 million. He’s not a bad player yet, but he’s no longer a particularly good one, and he’s in his mid-30s. Probably not a starter anymore. So, yeah, the bulk of that deal is underwater, and it would require a good prospect coming along for another team to pick it up. I keep expecting the Phillies or White Sox to get involved

10:07

Jeff Sullivan: From the Yankees’ perspective, they’re really mostly just worried about Ellsbury’s cost in 2018. Once they re-set their penalties, then, whatever, they can afford the world. I’m sure that’s the current stumbling block

10:09

GK: What do you think of Steamer’s projection for Margot? A bit pessimistic?

10:09

Jeff Sullivan: I don’t think it’s unreasonable to project a guy with a 90 wRC+ for an 89 wRC+

10:09

Jeff Sullivan: But I do prefer it when we have our 50/50 blend of Steamer and ZiPS. I do find that Steamer can be conservative

10:11

gump: Is it easier to convince an owner to take a 20MM/year bad contract packaged with a prospect, or to spend an additional 20MM/year on your minor league development (more coaches, better pay, better meals, who knows)? Is it just that the bad contract ends, and teams wouldn’t be able to just stop spending that development money?

10:11

Jeff Sullivan: The former, because it’s just simpler to execute

10:11

Jeff Sullivan: And it doesn’t break with precedent, so all the other owners wouldn’t get mad at you

10:12

Jeff Sullivan: Would make all the sense in the world for some club to just pour a bunch more resources into, say, paying the minor leaguers. It hasn’t happened because it would piss the other owners off. I don’t think that’s…a…very good reason

10:12

Jeff Sullivan: But also, the owners are greedy

10:12

R: Watson, for his career, is only .028 points of woba better vs lefties than righties. Why the hype?

10:13

Jeff Sullivan: Because that doesn’t mean he’s been bad against lefties. It means he’s been good against both lefties and righties

10:14

Kristen: If Hamels and Beltre stay healthy and play well the 1st-half of the season, what kind of prospects could they fetch the Rangers at the deadline?  Hamels won’t net a Clint Frazier, but he should bring back something decent, right?

10:15

Jeff Sullivan: The Beltre one could be complicated — every team would love to get his talent and leadership, but you might also have Machado and Donaldson also available as rentals at the same position

10:16

Jeff Sullivan: As for Hamels, it would depend on just how good he looks. He didn’t have a very good 2017, and he’d be due another $30 million or so through the end of 2019. If he looks like a No. 1 or No. 2 again, I think he’d get a three-player package headlined by one 51-100 prospect

10:16

Drew: If you were the Yankees would you trade David Robertson to free payroll space for Yu Darvish?

10:17

Jeff Sullivan: Just move Ellsbury. Just pay to move Ellsbury

10:17

Slurve: Will the recent influx of younger players into the Majors impact the salary structure in the future, with more valuable younger players coming into MLB or will the sheer number of veterans override big changes?

10:18

Jeff Sullivan: Eventually, unless old players stop declining so fast, baseball will have to deal with the fact that the valuable players are almost all wildly underpaid. Money will have to be shifted forward somehow. It’s the only option

10:19

Matt: 2 parter:
1) I think a larger part of this slow offseason than is being given credit is that teams are beginning to fear long contracts for non-super elite guys. Thoughts?
2) If this is the case, and the rest of the FA market this season ends up collectively with less years than expected, could this help to drive discussions about rethinking the arb system and how to better balance player control with a player getting paid during their productive years?

10:20

Jeff Sullivan: This will need to be the conversation. See, teams aren’t acting sub-optimally right now. Makes all the sense in the world to try to wait the free agents out to reduce their demands, at least when they’re non-elite. Teams know more than ever that building through free agency is a bad idea. And so the free-agent market will continue to get less and less money, relative to expectations

10:20

Jeff Sullivan: So given how many limitations there are on spending elsewhere, the excess money needs to find a way to get into the hands of pre-FA players

10:21

Jeff Sullivan: The players want to get paid what they’re worth. By the time they’re free agents, they’re usually not worth it anymore. They should be paid something like what they deserve, when they deserve it

10:21

ATCQ: True or fale: the Pirates (at least in 2017) didn’t fail b/c of cheap ownership, but b/c their Plan A guys at several positions failed and no team could reasonably have recovered from losing their 3B, LF, RF, SP1, etc…..

10:22

Jeff Sullivan: Fun fact: I ran that ownership poll in January 2016. At that time, the FanGraphs community ranked Pirates ownership at No. 11 https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/team-ownership-ratings-by-the-communit…

10:22

Jeff Sullivan: I expect them to end up somewhere in the bottom 5 this time around. What’s changed? The team got worse. But even back then, it was clear ownership wouldn’t spend as much as the fans would’ve liked

10:23

Jeff Sullivan: Ownership hasn’t helped, not in showing a commitment to winning, but ultimately, yes, the biggest problem has been that the Pirates core eroded. Cole got worse, McCutchen got worse, Marte got worse, Kang disappeared, etc.

10:23

Long Live Jeff Frye: I struggled with your owner poll. I used to think highly of John Henry but lately I feel like he doesn’t have the ideas I formerly attributed to him.

10:24

Jeff Sullivan: And I look forward to finding out whether the rest of the community shares your experience! If you haven’t noticed, I *love* community polling projects

10:24

Mike Stanton: Who says no to a soto/taylor/robles for yelich/realmuto deal?

10:25

Jeff Sullivan: Marlins, but I think you at least have the beginning of something

10:25

Jeff Sullivan: Wouldn’t be shocked if the Marlins want to keep Yelich and Realmuto separated, even if just for the illusion of getting a bigger total return

10:26

Uncle Muscles: What if everyone was Mike Trout?

10:26

Jeff Sullivan: The world would be horribly uniform, but the climate would recover within a couple centuries, after humans fail to procreate and die off

10:27

frennn: Neil Walker’s numbers are better than I thought. The Yanks should be in on that, right?

10:27

Jeff Sullivan: Given how much they believe in both Torres and Andujar, Walker doesn’t do much

10:28

Rick: Would Jarrod Dyson/Steven Duggar be enough to secure CF for the Giants? Or do you see them needing Cain to get to the playoffs?

10:28

Jeff Sullivan: They should get Dyson at the minimum, but, obviously, Cain is better, and would make them better. They should do it

10:29

Bebop: do you think the Cubs should prioritize signing Hendricks & Contreras to extensions?  i know the players have to be interested as well but those seem to be two players that are definite keepers based on position & skillset.

10:29

Jeff Sullivan: Not a whole lot of urgency with either and I can see how the Cubs might want to wait another year or so on Hendricks given how he lost so much more velocity. He’s still effective today, but, for how much longer?

10:30

v2micca: Have Bellinger and Judge created unreasonable expectations for the 2018 rookie class?  I’ll admit I’ve got stars in my eyes for Ronald Acuna and would have been dissapointed by anything less than 4.5 fWAR from him, before realizing how absurd an expectation that was.

10:31

Jeff Sullivan: Aaron Judge just led baseball in WAR

10:31

Jeff Sullivan: He had one of the all-time best rookie seasons

10:32

Jeff Sullivan: That’s definitely going to warp some perceptions. Few rookies are ever Judge. Few, still, are Bellinger. Far more are DeJong or Mancini or whatever

10:32

Jeff Sullivan: That being said, it’s impossible to look at Acuna’s 2017 and not think he could be an immediate superstar

10:33

CamdenWarehouse: What are you going to miss most about working with Dave?

10:33

Jeff Sullivan: Reading his posts and chats

10:34

Jeff Sullivan: Or having him do literally all of the logistical planning for FanGraphs get-togethers

10:35

Guest: With the FA market as it is, do you think there’s any of FG’s top 50 FAs that will still be out of job on Opening Day?

10:35

Jeff Sullivan: Very hard to imagine

10:36

Ben: Do you know when the Twins projections/depth charts will be updated to include Zach Duke and Addison Reed?

10:37

Jeff Sullivan: Let me do that right now

10:37

Jeff Sullivan: Someone was being neglectful!

10:38

Jeff Sullivan: Okay, those changes should be reflected soon

10:38

Jeff Sullivan: Duke was actually already in there, but Reed was not

10:39

2-D: How much did Justin Upton gain or lose from signing so early?

10:39

Jeff Sullivan: I’m still inclined to think he got about what he was going to get, but it’s hard not to think he might’ve been left a year short by now had he stuck around

10:40

Nathan Procek: What do you think the Brewers could get for Travis Shaw?

10:40

Jeff Sullivan: Not a ton. He’s serviceable, but he had a rough, regression-filled second half, and he occupies a deep league-wide position

10:41

Jeff Sullivan: Maybe they could get a young pitcher or two from the Braves

10:41

Kristen: Who are some legit bounce-back players this year?  Kinda thinking/hoping Odor and M. Moore are better than they showed last season.

10:42

Jeff Sullivan: There’s almost no way that Odor sucks that bad again

10:42

Jeff Sullivan: I mean, that was unbelievable

10:44

Jeff Sullivan: Running a few numbers right now…

10:47

Jeff Sullivan: Okay! I’ve looked at 2017 WAR and then looked at projected 2018 WAR by Steamer

10:47

Jeff Sullivan: The top five projected improvements, according to one projection system: Syndergaard, Machado, Cabrera, Odor, Tulowitzki

10:47

Jeff Sullivan: The next five: Franco, Bird, Heaney, Calhoun, Glasnow

10:47

Jeff Sullivan: Obviously, some of these are due to playing time or injury, but there you go

10:48

Jeff Sullivan: At the other end, the top five projected declines: Judge, Blackmon, Nelson, Altuve, Pham

10:48

Jeff Sullivan: Altuve is always going to give projection systems trouble, and this will be more significant when we fold ZiPS in as well

10:49

Drew: With Lorenzo Cain and Jarrod Dyson still on the open market, should the Orioles pursue one and TRY to move Adam Jones over to RF?

10:51

Jeff Sullivan: Dyson at a minimum would be a good idea, if only as a reserve to help the athleticism and the pitching staff. Cain doesn’t fit so well with the idea that things will get a lot worse a year from now, but it all depends on where his market is. If he’s affordable, he will probably prefer San Francisco

10:52

Dicky Henderson: what’s josh naylor’s realistic ceiling? will he ever be even serviceable?

10:52

Jeff Sullivan: Naylor is a first baseman with a career minor-league OPS of .738. His greatest strength at the moment is his age, and that only gets worse every day

10:53

Slew : I can’t shake the feeling that the Indians renting Machado makes sense for them. Am I crazy?

10:53

Daron: Congrats! From what I can tell according to the Fangraphs WAR leader board there were only 64 position players who had 3.3 WAR or greater in 2017 (an average of just over two per team). Five of those position players were Miami Marlins. Three have been traded already with 1-2 more possible. Is this unprecedented? Or to put another way, where does this rank in terms of all-time Marlins fire sales?

10:54

Jeff Sullivan: What the Marlins are doing is kind of similar to what the White Sox have done. Most teams underachieve because they don’t have enough great players. The Marlins and White Sox have had the core, but they never could assemble a supporting staff. So then the rebuilds get jolted forward because it’s great talent, not mediocre talent, going out the door

10:55

Grover: Will anyone pick up Andre Ethier?

10:55

Jeff Sullivan: Not with any urgency

10:55

Cam: Have analytics made baseball less interesting? In terms of everyone having a more or less objective value, fewer lopsided trades, etc.?

10:56

Jeff Sullivan: In certain ways, yes, absolutely. In certain other ways, no, because look how much we get to play with, even in the public sphere. Look how much more we might get to do in terms of player development. Look at how we can examine how teams are forever trying to stay one step ahead of an increasingly-informed competitive landscape

10:57

CT: Let’s hear your engagement story

10:57

Jeff Sullivan: In short, proposed at the base of Mt Fitz Roy on a blue-bird day, and I was so nervous I nearly dragged the two of us down into a frigid glacial lake

11:00

Rollie’s Mustache: It appears like the Jays are focusing on raising the team’s floor rather than its ceiling. Solarte, Diaz, Grandy is solid depth and should help keep positions afloat if injuries hit. But don’t they still need a legit impact player to have a shot at the 2WC?

11:01

Jeff Sullivan: They probably figure Donaldson, Stroman, or Sanchez could be those impact players. And, you know, Smoak, if he keeps up what he did. The Jays are coming off a year where they had some black holes, and there’s nothing wrong with trying to plug them

11:02

Ben: According to Baseball Prospectus, King Felix has been worth 76 WARP (more than Phil Niekro, Bob Gibson, Tom Glavine, Jim Palmer, and Roy Halladay), but both Fangraphs and Baseball-Reference agree he is at about 52 WAR. Do you know why there is such a huge discrepancy? Does BP just think he has been received by terrible pitch framers?

11:02

Jeff Sullivan: I have to think framing is a huge part of it. Otherwise, not sure. I’d like to hear their side talk about it

11:02

Kingpin: Will MadBum fully return to his form from prior to the dirt bike injury?

11:03

Jeff Sullivan: All the stuff was there upon his return. I’m not terribly concerned

11:03

Devil Ray Jay Johnson: Which 1B do the Rays end up signing for peanuts?

11:04

Jeff Sullivan: In all sincerity they have so many fungible infielder options they might just stick with Brad Miller

11:04

ATCQ: Is it possible that between the Ozuna trade and the Piscotty trade, the Cardinals both improved their team AND their farm?

11:04

Jeff Sullivan: 30-40% yes!

11:05

tommy lasagna, sr.: what do you think of putting bellinger in lf and having either barnes or grandal at 1b?

11:05

Jeff Sullivan: I don’t think there’s much of a point

11:05

Jeff Sullivan: Nice to have the option, but that shouldn’t be any kind of Plan A

11:06

Dicky Henderson: do you think hiring dave cameron makes the padres more likely to increase their pursuit of hosmer

11:06

Jeff Sullivan: No

11:06

Jeff Sullivan: The Padres know how Dave feels about Hosmer. The Padres hired Dave

11:06

Guest: Ichiro is going to get a MLB deal right? He ain’t what he used to be, but he’s still 3rd OF material, no?

11:06

Jeff Sullivan: No

11:06

Jeff Sullivan: He might get a late offer to hang on someone’s bench, but he is not a starter

11:07

v2micca: The Marlins have to know that Atl would not give up Acuna in a deal.  So do you see the demand more as the Marlins telling the Braves to go away, or opening high and negotiating down?

11:07

Jeff Sullivan: Setting expectations. This’ll inform the Marlins’ conversations with other front offices, of teams in better positions to get Yelich today

11:08

Anthony: Are you worried by Starling Marte’s seeming decline? Batted ball and sprint speed dropped off last year

11:08

Jeff Sullivan: He finished pretty strong. Not worried yet

11:08

TapeyBeercone: Do the Fangraphs Pre-Season team projections account for schedule? And if not should I maybe boost the Twin’s projected record slightly and reduce the Giant’s projection slightly, etc.

11:08

Jeff Sullivan: The projected standings page does not consider schedule. When it’s up and running, the playoff odds page will

11:09

Jeff Sullivan: All right, I need to get rolling

11:09

Jeff Sullivan: So thank you everybody for hanging out, and I’m sorry for what I didn’t or couldn’t address. We’ll do it again next week at some time — I might have to temporarily choose another day, because Friday looks busy. But in any case, until then, be well and have great days





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

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Metsoxmember
6 years ago

Congrats on getting engaged! And enjoy it! It’s only after you have kids that your life goes to hell! 😉

tz
6 years ago
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Just wait until your kids are the ones getting engaged lol.

Seriously, congratulations Jeff!