José Abreu Fits the Astros Like a Glove

The Astros capped off a dominant postseason run with a World Series title that showed off a well-rounded and star-studded organization. They won with great starting pitching, great relief pitching, powerful hitting, and excellent defense. This wasn’t a case of a few guys getting hot and carrying a moribund offense, or a heroic member of the rotation piling up innings that no one counted on. The team stacked with good players up and down the roster simply deployed them as expected, and got a parade for its trouble.
It’s funny, in that context, to note that one of the best offenses in baseball had a clear hole at first base. Yuli Gurriel, the longtime incumbent at the position, had an abysmal year, compiling a .242/.288/.360 batting line that represented his second-worst performance in the majors (and his second poor showing in three years). The Astros scored runs at a gaudy clip despite his decline, but they didn’t bury their heads in the sand about Gurriel; they traded for Trey Mancini at the deadline to shore up their first-base options.
Bad news: Mancini wasn’t very good either. He and Gurriel combined to rack up -1.4 WAR with Houston. Yeesh. By the time the playoffs rolled around, the Astros were using unheralded rookie David Hensley as a right-handed DH in lieu of Mancini. It worked well enough to win, but it was a strange look for a team already punting on offense at catcher.
It would hardly have been a surprise if the team looked at the data, shrugged, and wrote Gurriel a check to hold the position down next year. He’s a fan and team favorite, and owner Jim Crane has purportedly taken an active role in negotiations since firing GM James Click. Houston’s offense was good enough with Gurriel at his worst, so how much worse could it be next year, even if he didn’t recover?
As you probably already know, either by the title of this article or by following the news, that didn’t happen. The Astros signed José Abreu, the top free agent first baseman on my top 50 free agent rankings, to a three-year deal worth $58.5 million, as Bob Nightengale, Chandler Rome and Mark Berman reported.
I love this deal. In my opinion, Abreu is one of the most underrated players in the game. All he’s done throughout his major league career is hit, and hit, and hit some more. His wRC+ in 2022 was a robust 137. It’s also 137 over the three years of his just-completed contract, and 133 for his career. His worst single-season mark was a still-solid 114 in 2018. He simply seems immune to variance. He mixes power and contact in a way that only the best hitters in baseball can match. Unless you’re a special talent, you simply can’t swing as hard as he does without accruing a messy pile of strikeouts.
There are a few ways to accomplish that trick. The “easiest,” by some definitions of easy, is to simply avoid swinging at bad pitches. You can’t wave over a curveball below the zone if you never swing at it. That’s an obvious good strategy, but it’s easier said than done. Most hitters, by definition, don’t have elite strike zone recognition. Abreu falls into the category of “most hitters” – he chases bad pitches slightly more often than the average major leaguer.
Another option: never miss when you swing. That’s another obvious one that’s difficult to do. Everyone attempts it, of course, but the easy ways to make better contact are to swing at better pitches or swing with less ferocity. That’s not Abreu’s plan either. This season was only the second year of his career where he posted a swinging strike rate lower than the major league average, and his career contact rate is ordinary.
Abreu’s trick is subtler. Despite that average overall contact rate, he’s excellent with two strikes, which means that his early swings punish him less. He’s also very aggressive overall, which combines with his average contact to result in a ton of balls in play early in the count. Sure, he’s not going to walk very much – 7% for his career – but that’s a fine price to pay when you’re making up for it with a big fat pile of extra-base hits. He’s even developing more patience over time; the two best walk rates of his career have come in the last two years.
Despite the best plate discipline of his career, 2022 wasn’t Abreu’s best overall offensive season. That’s because his power ticked down slightly this year; he hit only 15 home runs en route to a .141 isolated power, the lowest of his nine-year career. I’m not worried by that, though. He continued to crush the ball, with his barrel rate declining by much less than his power output. In fact, he underperformed his expected Statcast numbers by a decent amount, and still placed in the 89th percentile or higher for every conceivable hard-hit statistic. I wouldn’t worry about Abreu suddenly losing his power, in other words.
And Abreu’s production will fit perfectly into Houston’s lineup. With Michael Brantley reaching free agency along with Gurriel and Mancini, they had an offensive void to fill. That’s not exactly how baseball works – they could simply accept worse offense, or count on improvement from incumbents to make up any shortfall. But in practice, it made sense for them to replace like with like, and in that particular sense, getting a pile of offense out of a single hitter is just what the doctor ordered. It’s even in a great shape for the particulars of their team; Abreu’s high OBP is a nice fit, as is the fact that a ton of it comes from hits, given that the Astros frequently flood the basepaths.
As for the particulars of the deal, it makes good sense to me. I had pegged Abreu for two years and $18 million per year in my contract estimates, but early contracts have all come in slightly higher than my projections, which makes this right in line with the rest of the market. I don’t think there’s much risk of Abreu falling off a cliff, so the Astros should have first base locked up for a bit. There’s also not much chance of Houston falling out of contention, another way that deals for veteran hitters can go wrong. As an added bonus, Abreu should be able to rotate to DH if necessary at least some of the time; Yordan Alvarez, the incumbent DH, spent plenty of last year in left field. He’s not great out there, but if Abreu needs the occasional day off of his feet, I think the situation should work out just fine.
All in all, this feels like a solid deal for both sides. Houston needed more offense at first base. Abreu probably wanted to continue playing for a contender; he was the one constant in Chicago’s rise to relevance, and it would be strange to leave after that impressive climb and start over at age 36. I expected him to return to Chicago, but this feels like an equally good landing spot, if not a better one: he’ll fit right into the team’s contention window and likely into the clubhouse as well.
Houston’s offseason doesn’t go from confusing to great with this one signing. They still have an unsettled front office and a pending Justin Verlander decision. The AL West isn’t getting any easier; the Mariners are here to stay and the Angels are doing their best to maximize the last year before Shohei Ohtani hits free agency. Next year won’t be a cakewalk by any means. By adding Abreu, though, Houston has added some margin for error. We know they can win the division even with no production at first base. Now they’ve added another bat that can help pick up shortcomings elsewhere.
Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.
Sad day, Jose Abreu no longer being a White Sox
Is it “no longer being a White Sox” or “no longer being a White Sock”, inquiring minds want to know what is the singular of White Sox
Maybe “White Sox” is the singular and the plural is “White Soxes”?
Yes, the plural is White Soxes. For example, you could have a group of White Soxes taking infield practice, and another group of White Soxes working out in the outfield.
If you wanted to refer to both groups, they would be White Soxeses.
As someone with an English degree, I’m screaming.
“White Soxeses” just hurts to read.
Is that a degree in being from England? (Sorry, that was too easy of a setup. I upvoted your comment.)
It could also be an unspecified degree that I earned in England.
Maybe you should’ve studied a language that makes sense!
You’re not wrong xD
English is three languages in a trench coat.
Does the group terminology vary depending on what the soxeses are doing? For example, a bunch of gooses flying is a skein, but if they’re just standing around in the outfield they’re a gaggle.
Boxes, foxes, Soxes . . .
Makes sense to me!
When boxes are doing something, I think they’re boxing it. Foxing around is probably sneaking into the chicken coop. I don’t know what Soxing would be, but it might have something to do with the 1919 World Series.
Time to take this thread to reddit
Sox is both the singular and plural, like deer.
I was kind of hoping the plural was “Whites Sox” but I knew it was too good to be true
It’s sad if the Sox couldn’t match this deal, but it’s possible he just wanted to leave. Too bad; I hoped he would play his MLB career in Chicago.
I don’t think he wanted to leave, but the White Sox needed to do something about the 4 1B/DH types on the roster and the worst option would have been giving the 36 year old 3/$60, then continuing to pretend Vaughn, Sheets, and Jimenez are outfielders.
I think this is a great deal for the Astros, but would have been terrible for the White Sox to do unless they were revamping a third of the roster.
I think this move makes sense because the Astros are legitimate title contenders (which should be obvious if anyone was paying attention the last couple of months) with a clear need and they went out and fixed it. But this is a whole lot of money for a guy who is going into his age-36 season. He’s still good now, but quite often the end comes quickly, and at that point his contract will look pretty bad.
So I’ll judge this alongside what I’ve said about some other owners like Castellini and Reinsdorf in the past: This only becomes a bad move when Jim Crane decides he’s spent too much money and turns off the money tap when it’s obviously needed. If and until that happens, the move is fine, but the opportunity cost is rarely known at the time of the signing. I think it’s fair to say that this move is great for 2023 and the rest depends on whether Crane is willing to keep the checkbook open.
The other obvious options were Josh Bell, Justin Turner, and maybe Rowdy Tellez or Rhys Hoskins. It’s possible Click would have made something along those lines, irritating Crane
If Carlos Santana is getting a major league contract because they think the shift is going to be less of an issue, and Rizzo and Abreu are getting deals like this, I would expect that Rowdy Tellez and Rhys Hoskins would cost more than expected on the trade market.
I mentioned this below, but I suspect that teams are seeing the dropoff to Bell and Turner (and subsequently Mancini and JD Martinez and Michael Brantley) as being pretty steep. I think there is something to that–they’re the only two 1B/DH types that are projected as being worth more than 2 wins. Bell is at 1.9, Turner at 1.8, Brantley at 1.5; Haniger is at 2.1 but if he’s a DH that will drop below 2.
Crane has plenty of money. The Astros payroll have not been close to the luxury tax and has gone down the past few years. Crane seems to be a guy who’s willing to pay money but only for players *HE* likes, which seems to be why Click was fired because Click was suggesting paying for other players. So as long as he likes certain players I think he will spend. Whether these decisions are good… we will see.
I do also like the Abreu signing. The 3rd year feels iffy, but window of contention is the now and paying the piper for an extra year isn’t a big deal. I assume if they don’t plan to re-sign Verlander, they probably will be in on one of the OFs (Nimmo makes most sense by far if they’re willing to pay up) or Contrares to complete the offseason.
This and the other thing that seems to be a line they don’t want to cross is going long on term. Will be interesting to see if that was more a Luhnow/Click position or Crane (or maybe both…)
They’ve never had issues paying guys high AAV, but term was always an issue – most clearly with Correa.
At the end, I’ll give Crane credit for this – so far he’s lived up to his word that he gave back when the Astros were tanking. He said when they got good he’ll open his checkbook, and he has. Of course we can say he can afford to spend even more, but he’s doing more than most.
> Of course we can say he can afford to spend even more, but he’s doing more than most.
Spend more than most may be overboard. The Astros salary these past two seasons have been #6 and #9. So not exactly spending like the big boys. Again, Crane has been saying that it’s his general that’s cheap not him, so this is the offseason where he needs to put his money where his mouth is. Because there is no one in Houston telling him what to do anymore and he can spend on whoever he like.
IMO he needs at least one more big splash or 2 mid-level moves to really show he’s all-in on repeating. Because with Verlander/Brantley/Gurriel off the books, the Astros do have a lot of room to work with.
That’s fair. I was saying more as the general sense of a promise he kind of made to fans back when they were fielding AAA lineups intentionally. The tone was “when we’re good, I’ll spend”.
Other than not paying to sign Correa (and I guess you can say Cole….) they’ve generally spent to keep their players. We can quibble with them not being as active with high profile FAs to date. But he’s generally lived up to that promise.
I do agree though that this offseason, and more so when guys like Tucker and the various SPs come up through arb, we’ll get another great look.
Well, if he’s #6 out of 30 & #9 out of 30, isn’t he spending more then most?
& I guess the results speak for themselves, too.He certainly can’t be blamed with leaving the team without depth or enough good players. I guess he could have spent an add’l $25-30M on something because he can, but, again, the results speak for themselves.
Yeah… to be in a position like this without being near lux tax creates an opportunity to spend more money for the purpose of extending (rather than opening) the competitive window. Possibly better that way….
I think this is quite likely correct. It’s hard to say what Crane will do, but whatever he does, I expect him to pay aggressively for it. This offseason at least, can’t say what the future holds. Contreras seems like a reasonable target. So does a starter of some kind.
Verlander will have a lot of suitors–the Mets and Dodgers and Yankees all have been interested this season or in the past, and all have typically been interested in the rumored 2 years, $40M type of deal he is looking for. The Padres might be in too. But if Crane is willing to top Scherzer’s annual AAV on a 2 year deal (or a 3 year deal at, say, $35M), they might win it.
The opportunity cost is being able to use that $19.5M a year on different players. Considering the Astros were basically fielding 0 WAR at 1st base and 1.9 WAR or more projected at every other position and top 4 SPs (1.1 and 1.0 for 5th and 6th SPs), I find it hard to think they could spend $19.5M more effectively with Rizzo off the board except maybe Contreras.
I think odds are 50-50 Astros sign Contreras.
The opportunity cost in 2023 is probably zero–this is a great way to spend the money this year. The question is the opportunity cost in 2024 and 2025. But that’s a long time from now. Just flagging this in case Crane gets cheap later.
*edit: fixed the years
The Astros need a 1B in 2023. The Astros need a 1B in 2024 and Abreu will likely be fine then even with a moderate amount of aging. 2025 is really the only time during this contract that Crane could go cheap with Bregman and Altuve being free agents and Abreu being 2 years older. I consider 1 year of potential pain (assuming Abreu ages poorly) for 1 iffy season, and likely one good season during a championship window to be worth it.
2025 could be a big year for the Astros regarding decision whether to retool, rebuild, or go for one last hurrah. Though with Abreu and Montero signings through 2025, I expect the Astros will spend big through 2025 (i.e., not over the luxury tax, but within ~10M of it), and their decision will be pushed to 2026 as they will have a bunch of deals/club control end after the 2025 season (Abreu, Montero, Tucker, Framber, Javier, Urquidy, Pressly).
I fully expect the Astros to spend at least one more $15M+ AAV spot for 3-5 years (e.g., Contreras, Nimmo quality player) with maybe another 1-year signing for a bat (e.g., Brantley, Conforto, Bellinger).
Latest report is they’re looking lower (and cheaper?) for a lefty OF bat: Benintendi.
Which, actually, makes sense. They don’t need much out of him. 2 WAR and 130 games is enough if he goes 2 years.
“ The Astros need a 1B in 2024 and Abreu will likely be fine then even with a moderate amount of aging.”
I expect he will have exactly one year of aging in 2024, which is a moderate and expected amount, unless he goes full Benjamin Button. 😀
but what if the earth starts going around the sun faster
Well shit. Game over, man, game over
The difference between the Astros and the White Sox is the Astros were the best team in the league last year and have been an elite team for years, but saw a hole and plugged it.
The White Sox, meanwhile, just got back to relevance in 2020, underperformed last year, and are probably thinking “If Jake Burger can play second base and everybody stays healthy then maybe….”
I think the difference is that the baseball ops team for the Astros was really good for the last decade and until the last 3 months or so essentially did whatever they wanted without owner interference. Going forward…who knows if they are more like the Astros before, or the Reds and White Sox now? I don’t know for certain either way.
I believe it’s a good signing as it fills one of the few holes on the 2022 team, although I am slightly surprised that Abreu’s age did not get some attention in the article. Skills can go quickly as Gurriel showed last season, and some of of Abreu’s hitting changes last season could be attributed to him attempting to adjust to no longer being able to hit the same velocity as he has in prior years. Some additional loss in bat speed could expose him quickly on a contract that takes him through his age 36-38 seasons.
As said, I believe he should still be good enough in 2023, but the contract may not age well.
Excellent article as usual Ben! That’s two signings that Bob Nightengale has broken this offseason we must be living in bizarro world.
One more thing: At first glance, this deal and the Rizzo deal suggest that the market is stronger for first basemen this winter than expected. I think that’s part of the story, but I think the reason is that a lot of teams have decided the drop off after Abreu and Rizzo to the Josh Bell/Justin Turner tier is pretty severe. And Abreu benefitted because the Padres (led by the super-aggressive AJ Preller) and the Astros (led by an owner who has decided no one is telling him what to do) seemed to identify Abreu as their top target. It’s hard to imagine the Padres pivoting hard to one of those two; they seem more likely to look at Willson Contreras or Michael Conforto to me.
Contreras to C or 1B? Campusano and Nola exist. Tatis needs a position. Pitching seems a more urgent need
I think they’ll move Tatis all over the place and eventually the OF full time imo. I doubt they sign Contreras but he can be shifted behind the plate and at dh.
Unclear! Probably catcher, but who knows.
I mean they could also go hard on pitching too. They apparently like Senga a lot. The Padres are aggressive.
Apparently Cleveland was also willing to go three years on Abreu though they weren’t willing to match Houston’s price. Which I think reinforces your point about the free agent market for first basemen. If Cleveland is willing to go three years on a 36 year old first baseman, then something strange is definitely going on.
Excellent point, because when I first saw this was for 3 years I thought, well, that should have been a 2-year deal at that AAV. Don’t think I was the only one.
Guess the market has changed a bit.
Could be as simple as- Offense was down last year, premium hitters are hard to find, Abreu is a premium hitter, so he gets paid.
For a team that’s contending, that certainty is worth it & the guys on the next tier (Bell/Turner) have much higher variance.
> Offense was down last year, premium hitters are hard to find
That’s not how things work.
Yes, if you are looking for 30+ HR hitters, they dropped from 42 in 2021 to 23 in 2022.
But if you are looking for wRC+ 130+ hitters, they barely changed from 33 in 2021 to 31 in 2022.
Almost everything is relative.
The universal DH really should have gassed up the 1B market last year, and it was surprising that it didn’t. This looks like teams catching up a little.
The lockout messed things up a bit as teams couldn’t fully plan and spend. Spending usually increases with a new CBA, but once again, the lockout meant the market didn’t fully experience the financial benefits of the new CBA last year, but I do believe we’ll see it this off season.
3/60 M for a 36 y/o 1B?!
Lmao
“BUT THEY OVERPAID!!” he howled, his tightly-balled fist shaken directly at the 2023 Astros Parade float before him.
Disappointed he won’t be retiring in Chicago, but it seems like the White Sox thought they had something and didn’t, so back to the drawing board?
Abreu has made a career out of consistently hitting the ball hard but at his age I am surprised he got this term and annual salary, I was expecting him to sign either a 1 or 2 year contract at a higher salary or a 3 years at a lower amount but $20 mil per for 3 years seems too much for a 36 year old 1st baseman.
Although if there is a team in position to pay too much over 3 years it is the Astros with where there future contracts and free agents lineup over the next few seasons.
Is it time yet to put to bed the theory that this off-season might include belt-tightening related to the larger overall economy? Or do we need to wait for the first shortstop to sign for $300 million?
The number of position players that have been worth even close to $60 million for ages 36-38 over the last 5-10 years is vanishingly small. I have heavy doubts that Abreu joins that elite company. As others have said, the fact that the Astros were good everywhere else and this just costs money will no doubt dull any negative effects, but in a vacuum this is a contract that will most likely look bad by June 2023.
I don’t think it’s time to put that theory to bed because I don’t think it will affect short-term commitments anywhere near as much as it will long-term contracts.
I agree with you that “The number of position players that have been worth even close to $60 million for ages 36-38 over the last 5-10 years is vanishingly small.” But it would be really interesting to see a data set by position.
I’m also kind of looking at this like it’s a 2yr/$45-$48M deal with a small 3rd year kicker.
Way too early.
One or two points don’t make a trend.
Factors at play:
1- Team/position fit: Houston needed a 1B bat *now*. They got it. ’24/’25, they’ll worry about later.
2- Supply/demand – more contenders looking for a good 1B bat than good FAs available. NYY grabbed Rizzo early. Houston got Abreu. Who’s left? Bell? SD isn’t biting. Cleveland might as well stick with Naylor. Not sure there’s a trade for either team.
3- As I’ve said before: this year’s FA class is low on difference makers so anybody who *might* be one has added leverage. The others? TBD.
As for Contreras at 1B?
Dunno, the Cubs barely tried him there and stopped after 2019. Yet he *is* a better bat than any other option that might stand at 1B.
Might as well go for a bat-first 2b/3b at 1b.
I can see SD go with Cronenworth at 1b, Kim at 2b and spend the money on Nimmo. Or they might trade a C for a 2b.
Unlike other teams, they have options.
I guess it depends on what the price of a free agent WAR is. Early returns this offseason suggest it’s gone up – if it’s 9m on the open market now, this looks pretty reasonable. But maybe these first few are just a blip from aggressive teams.
I don’t think there’s any reason to think that teams will run smaller payrolls, which is typically what matters more so than how much new money gets handed out in FA. But I also wouldn’t want to rule out any theories because the players who sign at the beginning are not like those at the end.
Smaller payrolls, of course, being a different thing than “fewer long-term salary commitments.” Teams don’t often have major regret over deals of three years or less.
I mean, I think there will be plenty of long-term salary commitments too. We’ve discussed this to some extent before, but I think:
-Judge’s floor is $275M, most likely
-Turner’s and Correa’s floors are about $220M, and it’s possible they could go as high as $300M
-deGrom and Verlander are getting AAV’s higher than $35M and perhaps more like $45M at 2-3 years
-Nimmo, Bogaerts, Swanson, and Rodon are all 30 so they’re probably in line for at least 5 year deals, meaning they’ll all easily top $100M and have upside all the way up to $175M. Bogaerts maybe as high as $230M, which sounds insane to me but seems entirely plausible.
That is a lot of money. With the exception of some really extreme shocks like COVID-19 blowing up in-person attendance, I’m increasingly suspicious that amount of money getting spent is determined more by the caliber of the free agent pool than broader economic conditions.
<i>deGrom and Verlander are getting AAV’s higher than $35M and perhaps more like $45M at 2-3 years </i>
But those aren’t long-term salary commitments. I’m talking those 7+ year deals like we saw for Trout, Harper, Betts, Tatis, Lindor… and I think there will be less 5-to-7 year deals as well.
I don’t have to twist too hard for the Abreu deal to prove my point. The fact that the Guardians – the GUARDIANS – were interested in paying Abreu for three years signals that teams are willing to spend the dollars in certain areas but not make long-term payroll commitments. We keep hearing that 1B is a fungible position, that the defensive penalty in WAR is because teams can trot out ANYONE at 1B… which would imply a relatively unlimited supply of 1B options for the Twins over a long-term period. But they’re willing to pay Abreu for three years and just couldn’t get to the right price point.
The takeaway: teams will pay for low-variance performance output risk on shorter-term deals because it’s a call option on what the environment looks like in the future.
Cleveland on Abreu is a shocker though not that they’re spending. They’re cheap but they do spend from time to time. The shock is that they targetted Abreu. His last deal was $50M/3 so there was no reason to bid any lower.
If the report is true then the new partner isn’t just clearing out the escrow debt but also bringing in some payroll space. That might get them back to their “normal” spending range of $100M. (Peak is $140 but it’ll snow in the Amazon before they get even close to that for ’23.)
Not sure where they can spend that money: their holes are CF bat, C, and 1b/DH. Nimmo won’t go three and I doubt they’ll go 5. Surely not Gallo? He’d fit on a Francona team, though…
Great match of player, team and need. Astros are effectively paying for two years of production on a 3-year deal. As I’m in the small camp of people that believe Jose Abreu is a Hall of Famer based on his full (including Cuba) body of work, I’m excited to see what he does in Houston and how it burnishes his career totals. 1,800 US hits and 300 US homers are on the table despite debuting at age 27… I wish he could get to 2,000 / 300 but that doesn’t seem likely unless he has 4-5 years left instead of 2-3.
If the Astros can somehow add Jose Barrios they’d have the Blood Brothers.
If they will take the full contract they are welcome to him!
Ben, what do you think of his declining numbers against the fastball? His expected numbers were still much better than his results (and were strong), but even they demonstrated significantly less power than in previous seasons.
On the Fangraphs webpage for Abreu, I see that Steamer has a model of 128 wRC+ and nearly 600 PA for 2023, good for 2.4 WAR. Such numbers make him look a solid signing. But the age makes wonder, what are the values for 2024 and 2025? I hope Dan can help out here.
Assuming 0.75 WAR lost per year, $9M/WAR with 6% inflation in payroll, Astros would be overpaying by about $12M with most of that overpay in 2025. If starting at $9.5M/WAR, it would appear to be close to even.
The dollar value of WAR is not linear.
Also, 1B WAR is clearly not correct based on what teams pay 1B (e.g. the defensive adjustment doesn’t play out in payroll)
The dollar value for WAR is close enough to linear to treat it like it is linear for players that aren’t close to zero WAR, aren’t RPs, and aren’t catchers. Teams that sign players early typically get who (position) they want, but pay a little extra than later (not counting the really big deals). I’ve not noticed 1B differing from expected $/WAR.
The dollar value of WAR is not only mildly exponential, it appears non-linear in that teams certainly appear to be making offers based on the confidence interval of the player achieving the performance model as well as the dispersion (variance) in the performance model.
Teams will pay more for higher confidence intervals and more narrow dispersion.
God I love this deep statistical inference discussion! Can you explain how teams calculate the interval, is it assumed Gaussian? It seems you are basing the interval on the variance of the individuals performances in the past, is there a weighting of the model based on the observed consistency of the individual compared to the rest of the league by position? Seems it would be skewed to the left the closer a player is to zero WAR, and to the right if he is a high performer?
As a White Sox fan, it’s sad to see Abreu leave but it was expected at this point. I’m mostly disappointed that Abreu poured his heart and sole into this franchise and all he got back was a half-assed rebuild and two first round playoff bounces.
Abreu deserved to retire as a member of the White Sox. Unfortunately, Rick Hahn has a fetish for drafting or acquiring 1B/DH types instead of real position players.
Only active major leaguer with 1000+ games played and no visits to the minors.
In the last 50 years, only two players played over 2000 games in the majors with none in the minors. Dave Winfield and Ichiro Suzuki. John Olerud nearly was a third member of the group but had three AAA appearances in his final season at age 36.
Other active players with no minor league stints include Shohei Ohtani and Garrett Crochet (though it’s unlikely Crochet remains in the club).
Not sure how impressive this is for players coming over from other pro leagues, it just means they don’t get hurt mid-season to warrant a rehab stint?
This feels pretty risky to me. He’s 36 when the deal starts. He’s been a good hitter to this point, but a lot to bet on him remaining a solid Hitter 2 or even 3 years from now. He could easily hit his decline next year. I shouldn’t bet against the Astros as they have a good track record but I’d be pretty nervous signing any 36 year old to a 3 year deal.
I think the combo of Houston’s player development and better lineup protection will keep him productive throughout the contract.
Although at ages 36+, I dunno how much development work there is left to be done at this point…
I guess I’m thinking more in terms of approach. Especially if the reports that his shift to an all-fields approach last season was driven by the Sox are accurate.
It’s an interesting deal because of how smart the Astros have been with their money over the past 5-6 years…last year Brantley made $16m, Yuli earned $8.5, and JV earned $25m. That’s almost $50m that the Astros have available to spend that gets them to last year’s (manageable, under luxury tax) payroll. So I think that this deal (and the Montero deal, which honestly I didn’t love since Brian Abreu showed in the playoffs that he could be an 8th inning setup guy) means the Astros still have about $20m to spend on FAs. In other words, Yuli could stay as a backup for $3+ million and Brantley could come back for around $13-15 million, but they would be breaking the bank to bring back JV. I think he’s moving on, unfortunately. And if theywant to sign Conforto or Nimmo, then Brantley and probably Yuli are gone too.
Interesting point, I wonder how much in stone is the luxury tax threshold. Does Crane see value in pushing for another championship over the next 2 seasons and the growth in future revenues and in turn the value of the franchise. Not to say they are the Pats, but at some point the Patriots went from being a multiple SB winner to one of he most recognizable sports franchises in the world. What is that worth and whats the risk reward for going into the luxury tax threshold for the next few years?
Well fuck me if the Astros didn’t make themselves demonstratively better on a contract that seems so obvious but I never would have guessed would happen.