Juan Soto (!) Leads This Year’s Pack of 30-Homer, 30-Steal Candidates

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When the Mets signed Juan Soto to a 15-year deal last December, they expected him to be the heaviest hitter on a contending team, a player who would factor into the Most Valuable Player voting. Odds are that they didn’t price his base-stealing ability into his record-setting, $765-million contract, yet with just under three weeks remaining in the regular season, the 26-year-old slugger has not only set a career high in steals, but he might very well become the first player this season to join the 30-homer, 30-steal club.

Despite a slow start that included just three home runs and two stolen bases through the end of April, Soto has clubbed 38 homers and is just three away from his career high, set last year with the Yankees. He’s already had additional seasons with 34 and 35 homers (2019 and ’23, respectively), so any total in that range is hardly out of the norm. What’s remarkable is that he now has 29 steals, a country mile beyond his previous career high (he stole 12 in both 2019 and ’23), and more than he swiped from 2022–24 combined (25 steals). At this writing, he’s third in the NL in homers but 11 behind leader Kyle Schwarber. By comparison, he’s fifth in the league in steals but just eight off the lead, held by Oneil Cruz.

Soto stole seven bases (in 11 attempts) last year, and averaged about nine steals for the 2021–24 span. He added five steals in May to those two in April, but he stole just two more in June. Once July hit, though, and especially after the All-Star break, he started running more frequently, with four of his six steals for the month coming in a nine-game span from July 19–28. He’s maintained a similar clip since then, with 11 steals in August — tied with Jazz Chisholm Jr. for the major league lead in that month — and three more in September. That’s a major league-leading 18 steals in 20 attempts over his past 45 games, a 65-steal pace! Chisholm is second over that same span with 17.

Soto isn’t just burning through outs in some mad statistical pursuit, either. He’s been caught stealing just three times, so his 90.6% success rate ranks third in the NL among players with at least 20 attempts. Only one of the 13 players in either league with more attempts has a higher success rate, the Cardinals’ Victor Scott II, who’s 31-for-34 (91.2%). The 24-year-old Scott isn’t quite the anti-Soto, but while he has 80-grade speed, he’s hit just five homers and produced an 80 wRC+. Paging back to Soto’s 2018 prospect report, Eric Longenhagen graded his present speed at 45 and his future speed at 40.

Soto isn’t a fast baserunner, and in fact, he may be slower than ever. According to Statcast, his 25.9 ft/sec sprint speed places him in just the 15th percentile, down from 26.8 ft/sec in each of the past two seasons (36th and 37th percentile). Sometimes slowing down is a choice, a measure of protection or self-preservation for a player who may be susceptible to leg injuries or just not expected to make a living with his wheels. Soto has never spent time on an injured list (major or minor league) for a lower body injury, and again, he’s just 26, but a counterpoint to the notion that his slower speeds are a matter of choice comes from colleague Esteban Rivera, who in his examination of Soto’s declining defense observed that he’s taking longer to accelerate to full speed (such as it is) than before, and thus getting worse jumps in pursuit of balls.

Taken at face value, Soto’s sprint speed makes him an outlier among thieves. He’s the second-slowest runner of any player with at least 20 steals this year:

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Stolen Bases vs. Sprint Speed
Player Team SB CS SB% Sprint Speed
Josh Naylor 2 Tms 25 2 92.6% 24.3
Juan Soto NYM 29 3 90.6% 25.9
Kyle Tucker CHC 25 3 89.3% 26.5
Geraldo Perdomo ARI 24 5 82.8% 27.2
Francisco Lindor NYM 28 6 82.4% 27.3
Xander Bogaerts SDP 20 2 90.9% 27.6
Randy Arozarena SEA 27 5 84.4% 27.7
Jazz Chisholm Jr. NYY 27 5 84.4% 27.7
Maikel Garcia KCR 22 9 71.0% 27.8
José Caballero TBR/NYY 43 9 82.7% 28.1
Zach Neto LAA 25 9 73.5% 28.1
CJ Abrams WSN 28 3 90.3% 28.2
José Ramírez CLE 37 7 84.1% 28.3
Xavier Edwards MIA 24 7 77.4% 28.3
Cedric Mullins 2 Tms 21 4 84.0% 28.3
Gunnar Henderson BAL 21 4 84.0% 28.4
Nico Hoerner CHC 24 4 85.7% 28.5
Trevor Story BOS 27 0 100.0% 28.6
Jasson Domínguez NYY 21 4 84.0% 28.6
Fernando Tatis Jr. SDP 28 6 82.4% 28.7
Bryson Stott PHI 23 3 88.5% 28.7
Brice Turang MIL 23 8 74.2% 28.9
Luis Robert Jr. CHW 33 8 80.5% 29.0
Elly De La Cruz CIN 32 7 82.1% 29.1
Jarren Duran BOS 23 6 79.3% 29.1
Julio Rodríguez SEA 25 6 80.6% 29.2
Jake Mangum TBR 23 5 82.1% 29.2
David Hamilton BOS 20 5 80.0% 29.2
Oneil Cruz PIT 37 4 90.2% 29.3
Pete Crow-Armstrong CHC 32 7 82.1% 29.6
Jeremy Peña HOU 20 2 90.9% 29.6
Chandler Simpson TBR 39 11 78.0% 29.7
Corbin Carroll ARI 26 5 83.9% 29.8
Byron Buxton MIN 21 0 100.0% 30.1
Bobby Witt Jr. KCR 34 8 81.0% 30.2
Victor Scott II STL 31 3 91.2% 30.2
Trea Turner PHI 36 7 83.7% 30.3
Source: Baseball Savant
Minimum 20 stolen bases. Sprint speed in feet per second.

The 5-foot-10, 235-pound Naylor — whom one reader nicknamed “Thicky Henderson” in a recent mailbag — ranks in the second percentile in sprint speed, down from the seventh percentile last year (25.2 ft/sec). Yet his success rate tops Soto’s and is third in the majors at the 20-attempt cutoff, behind only Buxton and Story, neither of whom has been caught yet.

Some of this running amok by players not known for fleetness of foot is rooted in the 2023 rule changes. The introductions of the pitch clock and bigger bases were accompanied by the disengagement rule, which makes it more difficult for pitchers to hold baserunners because it limits them to two disengagements from the rubber; pitchers are charged with a balk if they step off a third time without successfully picking off the runner. Wander off first far enough to draw a couple of throws but scamper back in time, and then you’re off to the races, though getting a good jump is still important — more important, even — if it will take you the extra half-second to get to the bag that some larger lads require. The rule changes have boosted stolen base attempts and successes: This year’s per-game stolen base rate (0.71 per team) is about 39% higher than in 2022 (0.51 per team), and the current success rate of 77.5% is 2.1 percentage points higher than that season.

Soto isn’t fast, but he is smart, and the same attention to the little things that helps him pick apart opposing pitchers from the batter’s box give him other advantages as well. “He’s just got a good eye for the details. We have a lot of guys that put work in. But he’s the most consistent. It’s every day,” Mets first base coach Antoan Richardson said of Soto’s penchant for studying video of opposing pitchers’ moves to first. More, from The Athletic’s Will Sammon:

Soto, however, is creative. Every day after the club’s general base running meetings, he works on his technique and goes over more information with Richardson. In games, he uses walking leads or gets big jumps, often taking off before a pitcher is delivering the ball to a catcher. Typically, he slides feet-first into a corner of a base, as if he’s an accomplished swiper years into his craft. He has been caught stealing only three times.

“We’ve talked about Picasso a lot and how base stealing is an art form,” Richardson said. “On the bases, you get to create. We’ve heard the cliche, like, you don’t have to be fast to be a good base runner. He is actually making this cliche very, very real.”

…“Nobody anticipated him being in the conversation for what he is doing on the bases,” manager Carlos Mendoza said. “Teams are starting to pay attention. We know that he’s an elite hitter, but he’s a complete player right now. What you are getting at the plate, on the bases and defensively is pretty impressive.”

Mendoza may be off base regarding Soto’s defense given the grim metrics (-11 FRV, -4 DRS). Still, his steals have added value. By Statcast’s estimates, which factor the pitcher and catcher against whom a base is stolen, Soto’s four Runner Stealing Runs puts him in a virtual tie with Story, Cruz, and Scott for the major league lead, though he’s two runs below average in other baserunning contexts for a net of two runs (up from -3 last year). By FanGraphs’ measures, Soto’s baserunning has been worth 1.8 runs, up from -3.9 last year.

Colleague Davy Andrews wrote about the Mets’ stolen base success last month, and Matt Martell added more about Richardson in the aforementioned mailbag, pointing readers to a March 21 piece in the Bergen Record by Andrew Tredinnick. During spring training, Richardson — who joined the Mets last year after three seasons with the Giants — ran players through a drill designed to increase the length of their leads and improve their jumps by taking a flat-screen TV monitor showing video of pitchers’ deliveries and pickoff moves out to the infield dirt. Richardson’s tutelage has been so successful that the Mets’ 88.4% stolen base success rate is the second-highest full-season rate since 1947… trailing the Mets’ 88.7% success rate from 2023 (the 2020 A’s had an 89.7% success rate in the pandemic-shortened season). The Mets recently ran off a streak of 39 consecutive successful steals, tying a single-season record held by the 2013 Red Sox. The player who swiped the 36th base, which surpassed the 2023 team to set a franchise record, was Soto.

Anyway, there have been just 47 seasons in which a player has combined at least 30 homers with 30 steals, more than half of which (24) occurred in the 2007–24 span, owing mainly to higher home run rates. Indeed, the first time more than one player went 30/30 in a season was 1987, when a strange home run spike — the first time teams averaged more than 1.0 homers per game — helped four players complete the feat, including the first pair of teammates, the Mets’ Howard Johnson (36 HR, 32 SB) and Darryl Strawberry (39 HR, 36 SB). With home run rates even higher in recent years (1.16 per game this seasons), and stolen bases on the rise thanks to the aforementioned rule changes, four players went 30/30 in 2023 (Ronald Acuña Jr., Francisco Lindor, Julio Rodríguez, and Bobby Witt Jr.), and three more did so last year (Shohei Ohtani, José Ramírez, and Witt).

We’re not getting a 50/50 season this year like that of Ohtani in 2024, or a 40/70 one like what Acuña achieved in ’23, but once again, we could have a handful of 30/30 players. Nine have hit at least 25 homers and stolen at least 24 bases, and four of those nine have already reached or surpassed 30 in one of the two categories.

Possible 30-Homer, 30-Steal Seasons in 2025
Player Team HR SB RoS HR RoS SB Proj HR Proj SB
Juan Soto NYM 38 29 4 2 42 31
Julio Rodríguez SEA 30 25 4 3 34 28
Corbin Carroll ARI 30 26 3 4 33 30
Jazz Chisholm Jr. NYY 28 27 4 4 32 31
José Ramírez CLE 27 37 4 4 31 41
Pete Crow-Armstrong CHC 28 32 3 4 31 36
Francisco Lindor NYM 26 28 3 3 29 31
Randy Arozarena SEA 26 27 3 3 29 30
Zach Neto LAA 25 25 3 3 28 28

Wow. Based on our Depth Charts rest-of-season projections, five players are forecasted to reach 30/30, which would be a record, with two more falling one homer short, one falling two steals short, and one falling two short in both. It’s worth remembering that stolen base attempts have a discretionary element; these projections are based on career rates and aging curves but don’t account for a sudden desire to run aggressively à la Soto.

[Update: I made an unreasonably late request for ZiPS odds from Dan Szymborski as to these players making it to 30-30. It wasn’t ready when the article was published, but now that the wheels have spun, here it is:]

ZiPS 30/30 Probabilities
Player 30/30 Prob
Juan Soto 96%
Pete Crow-Armstrong 85%
Jazz Chisholm Jr. 61%
José Ramírez 51%
Randy Arozarena 47%
Corbin Carroll 37%
Francisco Lindor 32%
Julio Rodríguez 31%
Zach Neto 11%
Trevor Story 9%
Byron Buxton 8%
Kyle Tucker 3%
Bobby Witt Jr. 1%

Some notes on each of these guys above the 10% bar besides Soto, going down the projected home run list:

  • Two years ago, Rodríguez became the third-youngest player to reach 30/30. He’s already checked the home run box in what’s been a bounce-back season. If he picks up his stolen base pace, he could join Witt as the second player to go 30/30 twice through his age-24 campaign.
  • Last Friday, Carroll reached the 30-homer plateau for the first time, though the next night he lost a potential no. 31 to Ceddanne Rafaela’s ridiculous catch. He hasn’t been running as often as usual; he stole 54 bases in 59 attempts as a rookie in 2023 and then 35 bases in 43 attempts last year, but he’s down to 26 steals in 31 attempts this year.
  • For the second year in a row, Chisholm has set a career high in homers, first with 24 while splitting last season between the Marlins and Yankees, and now 28 with New York, 17 of which have come at home. While nine of those have been hit in the general direction of Yankee Stadium’s short right field porch, by Statcast’s reckoning, six of the nine would have been out in all 30 parks, with the other three out in 22, 26, and 29 parks, so this isn’t just a home-cooked pursuit. Stolen base-wise, after swiping 40 bags in 50 attempts last year, he’s 27-for-32 this year.
  • Last year, Ramírez fell just one home run short of becoming the seventh player to reach 40/40, finishing with 39 homers and 41 steals; coupled with Ohtani, it would have been the first time two players reached at least 40/40 in the same season. While that pairing is out of reach for Ramírez this season, he has a clear shot of notching his third 30/30 season, tying Johnson for the fourth-most such seasons; only Alfonso Soriano (four) and the father-son combo of Bobby and Barry Bonds (five apiece) have more.
  • Given the importance of reaching base to generating steal opportunities, it’s not surprising a player with a sub-.300 on-base percentage has never completed this feat. Joe Carter (.304 in 1987) has the lowest OBP for any club member to date, and even the OBP-challenged Soriano was at .309 in 2005. Crow-Armstrong, with his .293 OBP, is two homers away from making a very strange and somewhat dubious kind of history, though even with his shortcomings, he’s produced a 115 wRC+ and 5.4 WAR.
  • After hitting 31 homers and stealing 31 bases in 2023, Lindor bashed 33 homers last year, none bigger than the go-ahead two-run shot in the ninth inning of Game 162 that helped the Mets clinch a Wild Card berth. The only downside was that even with two stolen bases (and a homer) the day before, he finished one steal short of 30. Right now, Lindor projects to finish one homer short, but does anyone want to bet against him these days? He and Soto could join Johnson and Strawberry as the second pair of Mets to reach 30/30 in the same season; the only other pair of teammates to go 30/30 played for the 1996 Rockies: Ellis Burks (40 HR, 32 SB) and Dante Bichette (31 HR, 31 SB).
  • Arozarena has already set a career high in homers, and could pair with Rodríguez to join the short list of 30/30 teammates. Meanwhile, he’s the only player besides Ramírez to hit least 20 homers and steal at least 20 bases in each of the past five seasons; Rodríguez and Witt are the only ones with four such seasons, and they didn’t debut until 2022.
  • Neto finished with 23 homers and 30 steals last year. He projects for a closer miss this time around, but he’s hitting the ball a lot harder, and 10 of those homers have come since the start of August, so don’t count him out.

Admittedly, there’s a trivial element to reaching 30/30; we know that a 35-homer, 29-steal season may be more valuable, for example. To these eyes at least, the combination of those two round numbers is a link to baseball history. After all, it’s not every day that a player deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as Willie Mays, Bonds… and (very possibly) Soto.





Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.

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sadtromboneMember since 2020
10 months ago

Something about calling Acuna’s season a 40-70 season instead of a 40-40 season seems weird to me. Rickey Henderson is the only member of the 20-80 club. People don’t usually talk about Barry Bonds’s 30-50 season in 1990, or Eric Davis’s in 1987. Ken Griffey Jr had a 50-20 season, and so did Willie Mays. I sort of get why we did it, we wanted to separate it from all of the 40-40 seasons but it seems…uneven to do it this way.

gottaIch116Member since 2020
10 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Great points. I’d like to see an article on the best, adjusted for era, power speed number seasons. The geometric mean stat that baseball reference uses.

Go OsMember since 2025
10 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Eric Davis had 27 HRs and 80 SBs in 1986. There have been 4 30-50 seasons. 5 50-20 Seasons. It is pretty obvious where Acuna’s season is called 40-70…. there’s one

sadtromboneMember since 2020
10 months ago
Reply to  Go Os

We can take it farther if you like. For example, there is only one 10-130 season in MLB history. There is only one 70-10 season. There is only one season with 20 homers and 60 doubles. Only one with 20 triples and 80 stolen bases. Only one with 50 homers and 170 RBIs. Only one with 30 homers and 30 hit-by-pitches. Only one with 60 homers and 10 sacrifice flies.

Had enough yet? No? How about Bob Feller, who had the only 340 strikeout – 10 shutout combination in MLB history? Or Billy Koch, who had the only season with 10 wins and 40 saves?

Ostensibly RidiculousMember since 2020
10 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Under 30 is too mundane for those numbers so no one cares.
Lots of players hit 20 homers or steal 20 bases in a season. It’s unremarkable.

Only the elite home run hitters hit 40 in a season.
And many elite base stealers have never stolen 70 bases in a season.

Ostensibly RidiculousMember since 2020
10 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

50hr and 175rbi is pretty darn impressive.
But those stats are related, and several of players have had 50hr 150rbi seasons and 175 isn’t nearly double 150.

The 30hr and 30hbp is pretty interesting, though. I do think that one’s worth singling out.

dodgerbleu
10 months ago

Yeah that’s cool. So is 20 triples and 80 SB. It’s gotta be Cobb, no one else ever had that combo. 20 triples in his day was basically like hitting 60 HR in the 2000s. And 80 SB was like 60 in the 2000s. Like Sosa manifested in triples and Juan Pierre or Jose Reyes or Dee Gordon on the bases.

Actually had to look at Reyes real quick, he had a 19 triple 56 SB year. Which is also incredible, but 20/80 in Cobb’s day was still something like 10% or 15% better than that.

TKDCMember since 2016
10 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I’ve often heard reference to Eric Davis’ 30-50 season. I think you hear less about Bonds because there’s so much more to talk about with him. Also, Acuña’s season just happened two years ago and as was already alluded to, he broke the record of steals by a 40-homer hitter by 27. I remember big deals being made about several players who joined “clubs” like this, Granderson/Rollins and Belle for example. The NBA has absolutely fallen in love with these types of distinctions and you don’t even need round numbers! It’s fun and sports are supposed to be fun.

Jason BMember since 2017
10 months ago

Last year, Ramírez fell just one stolen base short of becoming the seventh player to reach 40/40, finishing with 39 homers and 41 steals

1 home run short, I think you meant?

matthayden4Member since 2024
10 months ago
Reply to  Jason B

One stolen base short of the elusive 39/42 season!

slz
10 months ago

I hope Soto manages to get to 40/40 just to be the perfect cherry on the top of these Mickey Mouse stats since the base change. I’m extremely tired of hearing about them like they mean anything

Last year there was all this hoopla about Ohtani going 50/50 (right after Acuna’s 40/70 year) and how amazing it was

In the past, talking about a “30/30 season” was old-school old guy shorthand to say a player was a great all-around threat who contributed both with power and speed which means he is a great offensive player and, presumably, a great defensive player thanks to that speed

Shohei Ohtani is a DH! Yes, he is very fast, and I’m sure he could play good defense if he wanted to…but he doesnt. And he only ran that much last year because he didnt have to worry about any knocks/injuries bothering him because he was DH only

Soto is even more perfect because he has been a horrendous defender this year. And, as has been pointed out on this site repeatedly, he isnt even a good baserunner. He has been a good base stealer this season which just puts him slightly above water. So I hope he spends the rest of September taking 10 step leads off first base while the pitcher ignores him (these stolen bases matter so much that teams continue to let the Mets do this) and gets to 40/40 and then we can give him the MVP because every season now we need a MVP to get to some ridiculous HR/SB plateau so we can pretend the athletes we have today are different than the ones that existed for all of MLB history

catmanwayne
10 months ago
Reply to  slz

Ohtani isn’t strictly DH-only though. He pitches every 5th day when healthy enough to do so, and pitching is a huge part of run prevention (aka defense).

slz
10 months ago
Reply to  catmanwayne

No, he wasnt. Not last year. Unless we’re retroactively giving players credit for things they werent doing. I guess Jacob deGrom has 5 Cy Young’s now

Jason BMember since 2017
10 months ago
Reply to  slz

old man yells at cloud.gif

formerly matt wMember since 2025
10 months ago
Reply to  slz

Even in the old days 30/30 didn’t necessarily mean good defense. Jose Canseco, the first 40/40 player, was not a good defender.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
10 months ago
Reply to  slz

while the pitcher ignores him (these stolen bases matter so much that teams continue to let the Mets do this)

Soto’s been caught stealing twice in the last week.

catmanwayne
10 months ago

Teams still do care if a runner takes an extra base against them no matter who it is that’s running though. A defense would much rather keep Soto stuck at 1st for the GIDP opportunity during the next AB than to let him in scoring position even though geriatric tortoises are probably faster. It’s just harder to keep a runner honest with the new rules limiting pickoffs and the slightly larger bases nowadays, and until defenses can adjust to the new rules we’re going to see wild things like Soto pulling a 30/30 year or Josh Naylor and his cinderblock shoes snagging 25 bases.

MichaelMember since 2020
10 months ago
Reply to  slz

You sound like the adults in animated charlie brown

darrenasuMember since 2025
10 months ago
Reply to  slz

Amazing points! Now I’ll go find some more clouds for you to yell at…

MikeSMember since 2020
10 months ago

PCA has an OBP under .300 because he has fallen off a cliff. He homered on July 23rd and since then has one HR with a slash line of .200/.255/.296, wRC+ 51. 6 weeks ago he was at 27/28 and looked like a lock to get to 30/30.

formerly matt wMember since 2025
10 months ago
Reply to  MikeS

PCA’s OBP wasn’t that high even when he was doing well; his first half OBP was just .302. (I remember because of a chat a few weeks ago where someone was asking if he was having the best season ever with an OBP below .300.) His Ks are up and his BABIP down a bit, but the problem is his power disappearing–.070 ISO in August and .077 so far this month.

matthayden4Member since 2024
10 months ago
Reply to  MikeS

Nothing to do with your post – my apologies – but your comment about PCA’s homer drought made me look up Trout’s game log this season, because it feels like he’s been stuck on 20 homers forever. Sure enough, it’s been 26(!) games since he’s homered.

Jeremy FoxMember since 2026
10 months ago

It’s fascinating to me how the new disengagement rules led to an explosion of medium-volume base stealers but not of high-volume base stealers. Lots of players now putting up 20-30ish steal seasons, but still hardly any putting up 50+ steal seasons, and nobody coming anywhere close to 100 SB. If Soto can steal 30 bases, why isn’t Trea Turner stealing, like, 80+? Especially because Turner (and lots of other fast, medium-volume base stealers) have success rates well above the break-even threshold of 70-75%; Turner (and others like him) surely could run a fair bit more often before he started taking bad risks that got him thrown out a bunch. Are guys not stealing in high volume because they don’t want to risk injury, or want to save their bodies the cumulative wear and tear?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
10 months ago
Reply to  Jeremy Fox

Trea Turner has been thrown out twice as much as Soto this year! Still enough that he should run a bit more, but not too much more.

I don’t know exactly why that is happening, but it’s pretty clear that some players are getting a lot more attention than others. Guys like Naylor and Soto are taking huge leads without any real consequences. If a guy like Oneil Cruz or Pete Crow-Armstrong did that they would be on second base all the time. I’m pretty sure it’s because Cruz and Crow-Armstrong get a whole lot more attention from opposing pitchers and catchers than Naylor or Soto.

Jeremy FoxMember since 2026
10 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

This all makes sense. But why haven’t opposing teams started to pay more attention to Soto and Naylor? Public analysts and fans have been talking for weeks about how much those two are running, and how successfully. Surely opposing teams have noticed too, so why is it taking them so long to do anything about it?

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
10 months ago
Reply to  Jeremy Fox

They have! As I mentioned above Soto has been caught stealing twice in the last week by pitchers stepping off when he’s started too early. Everyone adjusts at a different rate but it’s pretty obvious this is now part of the advance scouting for at least some opponents.

Sonny LMember since 2017
10 months ago

Yeah once this started getting attention you had to know pitchers were going to shut this down. Still fun though!

Ostensibly RidiculousMember since 2020
10 months ago
Reply to  Jeremy Fox

I want to know what’s up with Ohtani…

Last year: from July 23, 2024 to the end of the season he stole 36 bases in 61 games!
0 caught steals. Perfect 36/36.
Absurdly high opportunities? No – his OBP was pretty average by his standards (.375).
By September every person on the planet knew he was running on every opportunity, and no one could get him out.

This year his good but not elite speed looks unchanged.
But in 142 games he only has only attempted 24 steals. And been caught on 6 of them.

DavidMember since 2020
10 months ago

Stealing is so much timing and focus, and it seems like he’s not really even intended to get locked in on it as much this year, which makes sense given the crowded mental space of having to ramp up the pitching. Even Ohtani is mortal!

Jeremy FoxMember since 2026
10 months ago

Why have teams not started making more of an effort to hold Soto and Naylor on? Or are they already doing so, and the combination of the new rules and good base coaching is such that Soto and Naylor can steal a bunch of bases at a high success rate anyway? If it’s the latter, that’s crazy; that would suggest that other players are leaving an enormous amount of meat on the bone by not attempting more steals, and/or by picking suboptimal spots in which to steal.

catmanwayne
10 months ago
Reply to  Jeremy Fox

Even with the new rules making it easier to steal bases, it’s still very difficult to do so. You have to read the pitcher, where the 2B/SS are positioned, and hope to god that the catcher doesn’t have a good throwing arm that day. At points during their careers players like Naylor and Soto have gotten praised for their baseball IQs/situational awareness. They may not be the best athletes but they can take advantage of an opponent slipping up/not paying close attention to them. In contrast there are fast guys who simply run with reckless abandon because most of the time it works every time via their sheer speed. They still get thrown out a lot when the defense is paying attention.

Jeremy FoxMember since 2026
10 months ago
Reply to  catmanwayne

I do sometimes wonder if players vary in how well they can sustain mental alertness and situational awareness. It’s a long season. It seems like guys might vary in the extent to which they can maintain focus and situational awareness *every single pitch*, *day after day*, for six months.

68FCMember since 2020
10 months ago
Reply to  Jeremy Fox

Naylor stole 11 bases in 2 weeks after the trade and has stolen 3 in the month since. It got attention and then teams adjusted and the steals dropped dramatically.

Mitchell MooreMember since 2020
10 months ago

Our leader in the clubhouse here, Naylor, stole 3rd base last night without a throw from the fumbling Crooks, and punctuated the theft with as in-artful a slide as one might ever see – like he had never even thought about sliding before. Naylor is only two homers from the most unlikely 20/20 season I can remember.

Sonny LMember since 2017
10 months ago
Reply to  Mitchell Moore

There is a moment when you must commit to sliding and if you haven’t you’re doomed to either injure yourself, look ridiculous, or both. Josh Naylor laughed at that moment as he motored past with absolutely no plan and baseball was better for it.

hurricanexyzMember since 2016
10 months ago

They’re still running a really long streak of not being thrown out by a catcher stealing second base, I think. Been a few pickoffs, and a time or two being thrown out at third. (They had mostly not been trying to steal third all season, until the last few weeks.)

Antoan Richardson feels like the most impactful first base coach there’s ever been, maybe??? Certainly up there, with like, Davey Lopes on the Utley-Rollins Phillies, say.

Jeremy FoxMember since 2026
10 months ago
Reply to  hurricanexyz

Yeah, until this season, Davey Lopes on the Utley-Rollins-Werth-Victorino Phillies would’ve been my pick as the greatest 1B coach of all time. But he had Utley, Rollins, Werth, and Victorino, not a plodder like Juan Soto. Imagine if Davey Lopes had turned Ryan Howard into a 50-30 guy!

schneidlerMember since 2016
10 months ago

I can’t get over Naylor’s stolen bases this year, and I kind of feel like you buried the lede with this: “The 5-foot-10, 235-pound Naylor — whom one reader nicknamed “Thicky Henderson” in a recent mailbag — ranks in the second percentile in sprint speed, down from the seventh percentile last year (25.2 ft/sec). Yet his success rate tops Soto’s and is third in the majors at the 20-attempt cutoff…” To me that’s a way more interesting story than Soto’s 30/30 chase, although it IS cool how Soto seems to have just decided in the last 2 months that he is now a prolific base stealer. Reminds me of how Votto seemed to flip a switch and start hitting way more HR. Naylor is way slower than Soto, and has a higher success rate. He took 3rd yesterday and then was knocked in by a sac fly for the 2nd out of the inning in a close game. Is this going to be remembered as the year of the slow guys stealing lots of bases? In the statcast era, what’s the highest SB total for someone with Naylor’s speed?

TKDCMember since 2016
10 months ago

I know there’s more to it, but Soto and Naylor to me just put all the players, and by extension their teams, of much faster players that aren’t just going wild to shame. Part of this is because I really thought the rule changes *would* lead to huge stolen bases and I think I’m looking for reasons they should have and just aren’t because teams are being stupid.

slz
10 months ago

Congratulations to Juan Soto for picking up his 30th steal! Took 3rd base down 5 runs with 2 outs and 2 strikes. More of this, please!!! Gotta pump up those very important numbers!

slz
10 months ago
Reply to  slz

Ohtani was doing this in September last year as well, btw

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
10 months ago
Reply to  slz

I’m confused. I thought you were the one saying this was a meaningful milestone?

sj1357Member since 2019
10 months ago
Reply to  slz

No attempt to keep him close to second. Third basemen basically standing in left field. Safe by a mile. They gave him the base. Should he not take it?

Jason BMember since 2017
10 months ago
Reply to  slz

You seem fun

slz
10 months ago

Mets really couldve used a Juan Soto stolen base in the 9th inning yesterday

He ended up stranded on 3rd after a 2 out double

His SB numbers are meaningless