Kris Bryant’s Enormous Payday Highlights Questions about the Rockies

Historically speaking, things have rarely worked out well for the Rockies when they’ve written large checks. Just limiting the timeframe to the past 12 years, the free agent signings of Ian Desmond and Wade Davis were disasters, and they bailed on homegrown stars Troy Tulowitzki and Nolan Arenado well before reaching the halfway point of their long-term deals, having suddenly decided they couldn’t afford to build around them. Yet even with those unhappy examples in mind, it’s tough to comprehend their signing of Kris Bryant to a seven-year, $182 million contract, a deal that was announced on Wednesday.
Even with the signing of Freddie Freeman, the news of which broke later on Wednesday night, the Bryant deal is the offseason’s second-largest thus far, after Corey Seager‘s 10-year, $325 million contract with the Rangers, and it’s forth in average annual value, behind Max Scherzer’s $43.3 million, Seager’s $32.5 million, and Freeman’s $27 million. It’s the second-largest contract in Rockies history, after their eight-year, $260 million extension for Arenado. We’ll get to him.
Bryant has an impressive resumé that includes an NL Rookie of the Year award in 2015, an NL MVP award and a World Series ring a year later, and All-Star appearances in both of those years plus ’19 and ’21. From 2015-17, he ranked among the top position players in the game, batting .288/.388/.527; his slugging percentage and 94 homers both ranked 16th in the majors, while his 144 wRC+ ranked 12th, and his 20.6 WAR third behind only Mike Trout (25.8) and Josh Donaldson (21.8). Yet his career over the four seasons since has been uneven, with injury-marred campaigns alternating with good-but-not-great ones. For that latter period, he’s hit .268/.364/.479 with 73 homers, a 124 wRC+ (tied for 44th), and 11.1 WAR, maxing out at 4.7 in 2019. He’s been a very good player, with power, patience, and defensive versatility. In 2021 alone, he made 47 starts at third base, 35 in left field, 33 in right field, 13 in center field, and 10 at first base.
Still, that latter stretch does not eyeball as the credentials of a player in line for a seven-year, $182 million commitment starting at age 30, not even from a free-spending owner like the Mets’ Steve Cohen. And yet it’s come from the Rockies, who just over 13 months ago traded Arenado — whom the team had signed to that franchise-record extension in February 2019 — to the Cardinals along with $51 million dollars (!) in exchange for five players, four of them prospects. Arenado and the Rockies had been at odds since late 2019, near the end of a 91-loss season that he said “feels like a rebuild,” offending the delicate sensibilities of owner Dick Monfort and then-general manager Jeff Bridich. Their subsequent failure to sign even one major league free agent the following winter only exacerbated tensions, making a parting of the ways necessary.
While an analysis of the Bryant signing shouldn’t be about Arenado, or Trevor Story, the two-time All-Star shortstop whom the team refused to trade last summer before letting him walk away as a free agent, one can’t help but feel as though this is Monfort overcompensating. The Rockies are overpaying a free agent with money that would have been better spent on retaining at least one of those players. Both had six-win seasons as recently as 2019 (versus ’17 for Bryant). Both are within a year of Bryant’s age, Arenado older by nine months, Story younger by 10. And both were homegrown — retaining them would have provided welcome continuity. Bryant may be a better hitter than either of them; even limiting the scope to the past three seasons, his 123 wRC+ outdistances Arenado’s 116 and Story’s 113, and his projection for 2022 is higher. Yet he’s been the least valuable of the three over the past three years because he’s not a top-flight defender at a premium position; his 8.7 WAR for that stretch is a distant third behind Arenado’s 11.1 and Story’s 12.0, and he projects to fall even further behind.
And when I say overpaying… we’ll get to that, but first, Bryant’s 2021 season. After battling nagging injuries — back stiffness, left elbow, left wrist, and more — through a dismal 2020, during which he managed just a 75 wRC+ (.206/.293/.351), he was much better last year, though his power fell off notably after a July 30 trade to the Giants amid the Cubs’ ongoing fire sale. He hit .267/.358/.503 (129 wRC+) before the deal, and .262/.344/.444 (113 wRC+) after. While he posted his best barrel rate (10.3%) and average exit velocity (88.2 mph) since 2016, those aren’t exactly remarkable numbers, with the former ranking in the 67th percentile, the latter in just the 29th.
As for the size of his contract, in our Top 50 Free Agents roundup, Ben Clemens predicted Bryant would receive an eight-year, $200 million deal, while the median crowdsource had him at six years and $150 million. Outside the FanGraphs fold, MLB Trade Rumors had him at $160 million over six years. In a lockout-fevered exercise connecting free agent hitters to teams, however, Dan Szymborski noted that his ZiPS-driven valuation — his multiyear projection times a dollars per win estimate — was for just $67 million over four years, though he himself predicted it would take more to sign him, coming in at $90 million over four years. While the AAVs from Ben, Dan (not ZiPS), and our crowdsource aren’t really that far apart, ranging from $22.5 million to $25 million, the ratio of the amounts at the extremes was larger than two to one.
I’ll admit I had forgotten about all of those numbers when the news of Bryant’s deal came down, particularly when Dan handed off his seven-year projection:
| Year | BA | OBP | SLG | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB | OPS+ | DR | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2022 | .285 | .370 | .515 | 515 | 88 | 147 | 33 | 2 | 27 | 80 | 58 | 8 | 121 | -1 | 2.6 |
| 2023 | .281 | .367 | .510 | 484 | 81 | 136 | 32 | 2 | 25 | 75 | 55 | 7 | 119 | -1 | 2.3 |
| 2024 | .279 | .363 | .500 | 466 | 76 | 130 | 30 | 2 | 23 | 70 | 52 | 6 | 116 | -2 | 1.9 |
| 2025 | .271 | .355 | .471 | 442 | 69 | 120 | 27 | 2 | 19 | 62 | 47 | 5 | 107 | -3 | 1.2 |
| 2026 | .267 | .346 | .452 | 409 | 61 | 109 | 24 | 2 | 16 | 53 | 41 | 4 | 100 | -3 | 0.7 |
| 2027 | .259 | .335 | .417 | 343 | 48 | 89 | 19 | 1 | 11 | 41 | 32 | 4 | 89 | -3 | 0.0 |
| 2028 | .255 | .327 | .397 | 239 | 31 | 61 | 11 | 1 | 7 | 26 | 20 | 2 | 82 | -3 | -0.3 |
This is for Bryant as a left fielder, since the Rockies have reason to be happy with Ryan McMahon’s stellar defense at third base last year. Projecting Bryant at third doesn’t change much, with an extra 0.2 WAR in three of the first four seasons but some of that coming off the back end. The valuations for the two projections: $67 million for the left field version and $70 million for the third base one, both more than $100 million shy of the investment the Rockies just made. Sweet fancy Moses.
I asked Dan if he could recall similar instances of projected valuations that far below the actual deals, and he cited the $200-million-plus pacts of Albert Pujols, Miguel Cabrera, and Alex Rodriguez (post-opt-out), particularly recalling Pujols’ valuation coming in at $131 million for his 10-year, $240 million deal. On Ryan Howard’s five-year, $125 million extension, ZiPS was “only” $75 million under. What those contracts all had in common was that they hailed from an era before analytics had permeated front offices. The only recent contract Dan could recall that overshot ZiPS by such a wide margin was that of Eric Hosmer; with Dan valuing Hosmer’s opt-out at $17 million, his estimate came in at $81 million for what he treated as a $161 million deal (instead of $144 million). None of those contracts, even the contemporary one, aged well. In that light, if Bryant’s deal is that far above projections, yikes.
But maybe it’s not as bad as it looks. Bryant did put up 3.6 WAR last year, and 4.7 in 2019; that’s 8.3 WAR over two seasons separated by a 34-game struggle while the player and the rest of the world were an utter mess. Maybe ZiPS is putting too much stock in that, and maybe he starts this deal with two or three seasons in the four-win range before tapering off as he moves down the defensive spectrum.
It’s worth noting that according to Statcast, Bryant has outslugged expectations; last year, he outdid his .449 xSLG by 32 points, and in 2019, he outdid his .457 xSLG by 64 points. In those two years, he added a combined 11 homers beyond expectations (six last year, five in 2019). While one could look at that and believe that the 2016 edition of Bryant, with the .554 slugging percentage and .566 xSLG, isn’t coming back, perhaps the increased carry for fly balls at high altitude will pay off for a player with a career groundball/fly ball ratio of just 0.81. Sure, maybe my rose-colored glasses are smarter than Dan’s machine. As evidenced by those other estimates I cited, it’s not like the entire industry views him as ZiPS does — some intelligent people really do see him as a player worth investing $150 million or more.
Setting the valuation aside, one can be happy that Bryant, whose free agency was delayed by a year due to the Cubs’ service-time manipulation, is getting his big payday. He’s a very entertaining player who will hit some towering home runs and give Rockies fans a star to cheer for following the departures of Arenado and Story. Undoubtedly, in the short-term he makes the Rockies better and more watchable. This is a team that lost 87 games last year, one whose outfielders combined for a major league-worst 81 wRC+, and just 3.8 WAR. Left fielder Raimel Tapia may have blazing speed, but he hit for a 76 wRC+ and produced 0.3 WAR. Center fielder Garrett Hampson was a worse hitter (65 wRC+) but ever so slightly more valuable due to defense (0.5 WAR), and right fielder Charlie Blackmon was a long way from his All-Star days (94 wRC+, 1.5 WAR). Plug Bryant in for any of them and it’s an upgrade of at least a couple of wins.
The problem is that still won’t be nearly enough to catch the Dodgers, Giants, and Padres (oh my!). Even with a rotation that has three reasonably solid starters (Kyle Freeland, Antonio Senzatela, and Austin Gomber) behind staff ace Germán Márquez, that unit projects as the majors’ eighth-worst, and they’re several roster additions away from being a team that can contend. Assuming Blackmon slides into the DH role, they need two good outfielders, a shortstop to replace Story (they’re not winning anything with late-stage José Iglesias there, sorry), and a much better bullpen than the one that currently projects as the very worst in the majors.
So the real question is where do the Rockies go from here? Will Monfort continue to spend money to build around that rotation, which has Márquez under control through 2024, Freeland through ’23, and Senzatela through ’27? Can a front office that experienced a regime change last year (Bridich resigned in late April, replaced by long-time vice president of scouting Bill Schmidt) and recently fired its head of analytics, Scott Van Lenten, after just seven months, point them in the right direction? Or will Monfort and company decide in 2024 or ’25 that it’s just too tough to build around another aging and expensive star and make another trade that sets the franchise back (though as with Arenado, they’ll need Bryant’s buy-in, as his deal features a full no-trade clause)?
Those questions are unanswerable at the moment. What we know is that Bryant has found a home via a big contract, and that the Rockies have gotten a substantial upgrade via a very good player. How that will all pay off is anyone’s guess.
Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.
Arenado was traded for non baseball reasons, and it should be very clear by now. He wanted out, and they got him out. In fact, they tried to trade him for KB himself in 2020, if I’m not mistaken (the Rockies have been in love with him for a decade now, by the way. They were crushed they couldn’t draft him in 2013). Story didn’t want to resign and he made that clear, so they couldn’t have used the money on him. That leaves a good chunk of money on the table, so… there you have it.
I love this move as a Rockies fan, because it’s fun. I don’t care what the projections say, I don’t care about $/WAR or anything like that. Bryant is a fun player, a good player, and he’s someone who comes from the outside, which will be good for the organization. Hopefully his approach rubs off on Brendan Rodgers and the rest. I’m excited to watch him in the middle of the order for years to come.
(It’s also bizarre that some of the “MLB teams are cheap” crowd is now making fun of this move, a team paying a good player to hopefully win a few more games. Do y’all want teams to spend, or do y’all want teams to spend only in windows? Make up your mind)
I can want teams to spend while still making fun of poor decisions like this. #lolRockies is the new hashtag I guess.
It’s always fun to cheerlead a team for spending money, but it’s a lot less fun when the owner starts complaining about payroll later and starts slashing payroll indiscriminately. I don’t think Dick Monfort is nearly as capricious as Castellini or Kendrick but I think I know how this story will end.
And if Monfort starts doing that I’ll call him out on his BS before most, don’t worry about it. I’m not a blind fan, I just like that the team I root for is better and more fun now.
Exactly. One can applaud the reds shelling out a dough few seasons ago for castellanos and moose, while still scratching our heads at spending the money on THOSE particular players. Same concept with Bryant and the Rockies.
Jeez, I haven’t seen this much defensiveness since the Battle of Thermopylae.
I don’t think wanting owners to spend and also criticizing specific spending choices are mutually exclusive. I do wonder if there was some sucking tax there. How many top of the line free agents were willing to consider Colorado given their current state of sucking and their likely continued state of sucking going forward? Doesn’t really make it better, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Bryant required a big overpay for that reason.
Please. Everyone knows the reason to sign with the Rockies is the school system. Just ask Mike Hampton….
Nolan Arenado has his money and is in a much better situation for winning. Kris Bryant probably thinks he’ll do a couple of years in Colorado and then get traded to the Yankees or Phillies or Blue Jays (although Bryant would have to still produce for that to happen). If that’s the case, the extra $30M or whatever he got will be nice.
I didn’t realize Dennis Miller had a Fangraphs membership
Also, don’t forget who Bryant’s agent is.
@leebolin – I’ll pay you $100/h to work on our advanced analytics. Or 5 years , $50 million to play second base for us.
You mean $100/h to do laundry, right?
I hear their analytics department is looking into this “batting average” stat
I don’t think anyone begrudges the Rockies for spending money. I’m glad they are. It’s *how* they’re spending it that is so goddamn confusing. There just seems to be no plan or vision that makes any sense at all. I hope we’re all wrong, tbh. Baseball is better when the Rockies are good.
it’s not that confusing when you realize the Monforts care about having a face to market the franchise… and not much else.
No it’s more depressing than that. The Montforts want to win and everything they do they think pushes an already competitive team over the top. There’s no grand money-making plan here, they really are this dumb and think they can win the West. They’re a vestige of Denver’s cow town past, and it’s a little quaint tbqh. Dumb money just can’t win anymore.
Why are you blaming the players for non baseball reasons that the ownership created?
Where in the world are you seeing that mario guy blaming any players??
Mario implies that the players wanted out without acknowledging that ownership/management basically drove them out.
And why did Arenado want out? To oversimplify just slightly, because the team failed to deliver on its promise to build a contender around him. Which sounds a lot like a “baseball reason,” from where I’m sitting.
And as others have pointed out, the antidote to “MLB teams are cheap” is not to throw $180 million at a player whose marginal wins over the productive life of the deal are functionally worthless in that they take the Rockies from a last-place team to a slightly better last-place team or maybe even *GASP* a fourth-place team.
I can support my local government spending more money, but also question leaders when they choose to buy military equipment for the police instead of building transit and fixing roads and investing in affordable housing and so on.
You also have to pay to support your local government. It’s appropriate to question government spending when it’s your vote and/or your taxes.
The Rockies spending decisions and your local governments spending decisions are two very different things. To compare a baseball team to the government doesn’t seem apt to me.
People have a choice to support baseball with $.
We don’t have a choice on paying taxes.
If your position (more relevant to dodgerbleu, above, probably) is that baseball fans can’t or shouldn’t question their favorite teams’ spending decisions because it isn’t their money, then I can’t go there with you.
If I got disillusioned enough with my local government, I could vote with my feet and live somewhere else, but that’s hardly the point.
I wish Rockies fans could vote the Monforts out of office, but yeah it isn’t a perfect analogy. The point is that “MORE SPENDING=BETTER” seems a pretty extreme position without taking into consideration what that spending is buying and accomplishing.
What do think pays for most of the ballparks? Local taxes!
It makes me so happy that this is the first comment.
Another reminder to fans who wish they had a different owner (Yankee fans vs. Hal Steinbrenner comes to mind.)
Hey now, most of us Yankees fans are simultaneously suffering James Dolan. We’re well aware of Hal’s place in the hierarchy of our righteous indignation
If you’re looking for the worst free agent contract handed out this period, you can stop looking now. He is projected to decline offensively and to start missing even more time with durability problems…over a 7 year, $182M deal. And on top of that, Kris Bryant is a good defensive third baseman who is a mediocre corner outfielder, now assigned with patrolling a spot in the most challenging outfield in major league baseball.
I generally think that we overlook things the Rockies have done well but it is so easy when they do things like this. It’s already looking like it’s about $100M underwater. In two years they are going to be desperately trying to unload this deal. This isn’t the worst contract in MLB right now (Miguel Cabrera and Stephen Strasburg likely are on a level all by themselves) but this deal is such a bad idea.
I can think of at least one recent contract that is almost certainly $100M underwater.
But it’s a 10 year deal.
Here is a partial list of players that the Rockies could have signed at a 25% premium over what they actually signed for that would make way, way more sense than Kris Bryant, with projected WAR in parentheses:
-Kyle Schwarber, signed for $79M + 25% is $99M (2.5 fWAR)
-Starling Marte, signed for $78M + 25% is $98M (3.0 fWAR)
-Chris Taylor, signed for $60M + 25% is $75M (2.1 fWAR)
-Avisail Garcia, signed for $53M + 25% is $66.5M (2.2 fWAR)
For reference, Bryant is projected for 2.6 wins by ZiPs, 2.5 by Steamer. They could have have had 2/3rds of a new outfield, or a new outfielder and a shiny new DH.
Marte, from all perspectives would have been the obvious choice…
Miggy only has 2 yrs $60M left. If this is $100M underwater, it’s a worse deal already.
& even worse, the position that would maximize Bryant’s value (3B) is handled by the 1 guy (McMahon) who seems like a solid younger piece for them.
It’s like Colorado is playing fantasy baseball.
The fact that Bryant is likely to be a productive player over the next couple of years does mitigate this somewhat. You can break out bad contracts into several buckets:
1) Guys who cannot play and are still owed money: Cabrera, Hosmer, Heyward
2) Useful guys who also probably have tons of negative value on their contract: Bryant, Lindor, Giancarlo Stanton, hopefully Stephen Strasburg
Basically it’s the differences between guys who are already in bucket #1 and guys who will be in bucket #1, but are still probably good to very-good players until they get there. Because their negative value years haven’t hit yet, guys in bucket #2 likely do worse in surplus value but it’s hard to say they’re inherently worse.
What about guys like Chris Davis who aren’t playing at all but are still owed a significant amount of money?
With 12 teams making the playoffs, we have an 80% chance to make it there. No time to be cheap with the payroll.
Do the math, nerd’s!!!
I like the comedy stylings of this duo. It’s like nouveau Statler and Waldorf
Dumbass.
I’m bookmarking this article solely because of Dick, Dave and Ruben.
seriously. they are like the abbott & costello of the baseball nerd comments section.
Not able to look at the stats but wanted to throw this in–I read that Bryant murders fastballs & does less damage against breaking stuff. With the Denver effect on breaking stuff, is it possible he’s more valuable than the projections with the 81 games at home?
His Coors stats to-date do not support that hypothesis.
He’s 15 for 57 in Coors lol. Ultimate small sample. His Coors stats don’t NOT support that hypothesis either..
There’s no way he has anywhere close to enough PA at Coors to be a relevant sample size
Montfort could have offered $30M to the bonus pool for pre-arb players, and still given Bryant an excellent contract. Could have speeded up CBA negotiations….
Holy cow you’re right
Feels like ZiPS is way too harsh on Bryant.
Aside for the COVID-shortened 2020, Bryant’s worst season was wrc+ 126 and 2.4 war in 102 games.
And suddenly he’s projected for OPS+ 121 and 2.6 war?
Cannot shake the feeling that ZiPS is overweighting Bryant’s 34 games in 2020.
The contract itself seems fine to me.
Also, Bryant has consistently outperformed xWOBA season after season so it shouldn’t be particularly worrying.
Part of the reason is that baserunning is an overlooked part of Bryant’s game.
Since his debut, Bryant ranks 9th in Baserunning runs alongside players like Trout, DeShields, Marte, and Buxton.
I agree. Although it strikes me as an overpay, it’s not unusual that a team that isn’t ready to compete will have to overpay a little to get a player that want.
ZipS really doesn’t like him, and I’m having a hard time seeing why.
Because he’s getting older, he’s playing a position where he’s been bad defensively, and because his playing time is likely to decrease due to injury?
There is another oddity.
Just a month ago, ZiPS projected
31 2B 27HR 77RBI OPS+ 127 3.0 WAR for Bryant in 2022.
Now that we know Bryant is headed to Coors, ZiPS is projecting
33 2B 27HR 80RBI OPS+ 121 2.6 WAR.
Doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense.
I mean it makes sense for wrc to go down at coors, because they also have to leave coors which drastically impacts players on the road since the ball moves differently and takes a while for their eyes to adjust to movement again. And those numbers at coors are still worse than projected numbers. But ya numbers seem a tad off regardless.
100%. Look at how well Eric Hosmer has worked out for the Padres.
Worst contract of the offseason so far, imo. I know a lot of Mets fans wanted him but I wouldn’t have given him anything more than three year deal with an opt out.
Maybe after Russell Wilson trotted into town, the Rox figured they needed to snag their own championship ring-wearing veteran.
Then again, this is more like the Nuggets signing Kyle Lowry to a max contract.
Just neighing.
I actually take your theory seriously. That is how billionaires compete with one another.
EUREKA!
This is it! It’s exactly it. Monfort isn’t competing with the Dodgers, Giants, Padres, Diamondbacks. He’s personally competing with the owners of the Broncos, the Nuggets, the CEOs of Denver’s biggest corporate headquarters, whomever else is along with him in the A-tier of Denver’s most prestigious country club. The Broncos made their big splash with Russell Wilson? Monfort had to match it with his own star signing. For personal prestige. Just had to. This is absolutely it!
Think of Monfort as baseball’s version of Dan Snyder. (way less odious mind, you) Then everything the Rockies do makes sense.
The Rockies’ interpolation machine strikes again. Working in their front office must be an interesting experience.
It is an increasingly rare experience, as I understand it.
Depends on whether they bother to replace the guy they fired. There’s an opportunity for another “experience” there.
You know the lockout is truly over when you can go back to asking “what the hell are the Rockies doing?”
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Rank the following moves, from most damaging to least damaging (maybe even some of these are “good”?)
-Signing Nolan Arenado to a big extension
-Whatever the Rockies did to make Nolan Arenado so mad
-Trading Nolan Arenado to the Cardinals
-Signing Charlie Blackmon to a big extension
-Signing Ian Desmond
-Signing Wade Davis
-Letting DJ LeMahieu go
-Not trading Trevor Story
-Not trading or giving a QO to Jon Gray
-Drafting Riley Pint
Of these, I think Ian Desmond is the worst of these, and the Bryant deal is seems likely to go better than that.
On its own, the Desmond deal is the worst. But the trifecta with Arenado, taken as a whole, probably surpasses that.
Desmond was an awful signing on the face of it. THEN! you factor in they actually gave him all that money to play 1st base?!? Really, the stupidest baseball move of this 21st Century.
You should add the signings of Mike Hampton and Danny Neagle!
There’s been a lot of stupid, but the Great Reliever Splurge and the Ian Desmond thing are the two that are most bizarre to me.
I actually don’t think the Shaw / McGee signings were totally crazy. Signing a bunch of relievers sort of makes sense, since you don’t know which ones will completely blow up.
But signing any reliever to a big contract…how can you possibly do that with how unpredictable things are at Coors? You know that you have a 50% chance of the guy being unplayable no matter how good they were before, right?
I actually like the concept. You can’t buy prospects. MLB wouldn’t allow it, and no one would sell anyway.
How else do you then get them? Deadline trades. What players are overvalued at the deadline? Relievers. You got excess money, and want to actually use it to improve the team? Sign the better relievers, knowing due to variance some will implode, some will go great guns, and those you sell at the deadline.
Not trading Story was the dumbest, if not the most damaging. I would be more inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt on taking the QO pick instead of whatever ragged prospects they might have received if they had any idea what they are doing in the draft.
well the fact that this list isnt even remotely close to all inclusive pretty much says it all.
I’m kind of curious which ones you thought I left out. I tried to limit it to the Bridich / Schmidt years.
I would defend the LeMahieu one somewhat. He had been around for nearly a decade at that point and hadn’t really shown to be anything more than empty batting average 2 win type player
Selling tickets and beer. Wanting a big name. Not caring about competing, same as the last few years.
Well, they fired their head of analytics on March 9th. I bet I know what the disagreement was about!
Yup. Seriously yup. This would fully explain it. On behalf of his analytics team the guy said ‘No! No! I just cannot sign off on this.’ And Monfort ordered him canned.
The firing would’ve cut the analytics team in half, but on his way out the guy kicked over the water cooler and it fried the power supply of their Amiga 500.
Wow that is an overpay! I would have thought the Rockies would not have to overpay for hitters, but I am clearly wrong. Geesh!
The Rockies are no better than they were five years ago. Meanwhile the entire NL West with the exception of the Diamondbacks has leapfrogged them. That just about sums up Rockies coverage over the life of the franchise.
Something doesn’t translate here….
Try the Serbian version.
ha! nice
this is the most rockies thing ever
Unfortunately for Rockies fans, not even close.
Teams trade overpaid players for prospects = teams are cheap and owners are greedy, horrible people.
Team gives a big contract to a free agent = teams are stupid.
Yes
Straw, meet man.
Happy to see Bryant secure the bag. That said, I don’t at all understand the direction of this franchise.
The ‘What???’ of this particular franchise?
I mean 7 years ago pirates nearly won 100 games. Royals, blue jays, rangers won division in AL. A lot can change quickly. Bryant wants good schools, great fans, proximity to family, counting stats. Those are all things he will get in Denver. It’s easy to understand from both perspectives. Doesn’t mean they should of done it…but understandable
This doesn’t strike me as being as egregious of an overpay as Zips thinks it is (and of course I admit I’m not smarter than the computer), and Bryant is a good player, but the Rockies are a total black box. I have no idea what they are doing.
Happy for Bryant, though I gotta wonder at what point in those 7 years he becomes the guy blocking promising prospects in that system.
“Prospects” LOL
The Rockies have actually been OK at producing players/prospects. Whom they then block with borderline starter free agents.
This…they’ve been pulling this crap forever. It’s one thing to bump Santiago Espinal to the bench for Matt Chapman…but blocking Ryan McMahon with an aging Daniel Murphy??? Or various OF prospects for Parra and CarGo?? Lord knows how quickly Brendan Rogers would have been on the bench last year if Chris Owings and his 158 wRC+ didn’t get hurt in April.
I’d really hate to be a Rockies fan at any point this century.
Also weird note about Bryant- he is insanely productive on the basepaths
Mother of mercy, I guess there always is some idiot team owner willing to pay you for who you were in 2017. If only dating worked like this.
Sigh.
No, see, you’re just not getting it. First, your fancy-pants projection system is way off. Bryant is at least a 4 win player. Second, he’s capable of playing MULTIPLE POSITIONS. Their LF sucks? Boom, four win player right there. 1B no good? Upgrade to a FOUR WIN PLAYER. CF? Four wins. Right? 4W. Third? 4W. That’s a twenty win upgrade. Way to go, Dick.
Your low. Bryant left the Cub’s, who won 71 game’s, and went to the Giant’s, who won 107 game’s. So he is worth 36 win’s. And thats just the regular season. Rockie’s can win the West thanks to this move.
According to my beer coaster math, the Rox signing Bryant away from divisional rival San Fran directly takes 7 wins AWAY from SF. 2022 is gonna the baseball equivalent of Colorado ripping off San Fran’s arm and beating them with it!
Don’t be fooled. Monfort knows what he’s doing.
I’m afraid I need to hear from Ruben Amaro on this…until then I reserve judgment until the entire trifecta has spoken.
When I saw the announcement of the signing of Bryant by the Rockies, my first thought was, “Please, let Dan Symborski write up this one for Fangraphs – in ‘Comic Sans’ font. ”
Despite my desires, I appreciate the informative and thoughtful article, Mr. Jaffee.
This is easily the biggest free agent overpay in recent memory. More so than Hosmer
$72.4 million for 0.5 WAR in 4 years. I guess time will tell.
We should go back and check the Hosmer articles that were written way back when, to see whether he was projected for more than 9 wins or less (and if less, how much less, since this is something like $30M more than his deal).
That said, it’s gonna be really hard for this to be worse than how it actually turned out for Hosmer. He is a mess.
The Rockies are an easy target, any unusual decision they make is immediately suspect, and everyone is kind of piling on, but…I can see some logic behind this one:
1) Bryant is a likeable player with big name recognition to the casual fan at a time when Rockies have lost the faces of their franchise. He will put butts in the seats. He will handle the media well, conduct himself as a professional, etc. The Rockies need a power hitter like that on the team.
2) He’s a fly ball hitter with big power in Coors. If he’s healthy he will put up sexy counting stats, which again, can help sell a poor product.
3) Bryant is a guy who, quietly, has tremendous inner drive to be great. He has been derailed by injuries and it may be that those nagging injuries continue and he never again puts up huge numbers. But if he has a few healthy seasons, watch out–he could yet surprise some people. He’s the kind of person who, because of that intense drive to be great, could be very good in his 30’s if he’s healthy. A big if, I’ll grant you–but I wouldn’t bet against him, either.
I think the value of this deal, in the end, is really going to depend on Bryant’s health. It’s certainly a risky investment, but I can see why targeting Bryant makes some sense for the Rockies.
F ‘em up Bryant! I hope to see him as the Cubs’ ancient DH into your 40s eventually…ideally basically everyone and their moms to go f themselves the whole time. This guy did everything these disgusting, wretched, and foul entities that run the show and their legions made up and then some, skipped zero steps, and ended up being told he was Actually Not That Good by shills and legions for half a decade (coincidentally once the min salaries left) despite the pile of accolades and accomplishments. Truly it was a disgusting arc to watch that kinda showed me where we are, nowhere good for all but the fewest and most invisible constantly working on securing their position, and I’m glad he is finally out of the worst of it
I love, love, love the fit. Go relax, play ball, pad those stats and coast to the HOF or don’t…either way I hope he is middle fingers in the air the whole time at fans, media, FO, and of course our job creating, narrative controlling, world shaping oligarchs above
……………………………………………….what?
I’ve re-read this a few times…and I still don’t have a clue what you’re talking about
Try reading it with a British accent of your choice
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
Is there any other team that signs big free agents and immediately moves them left on the defensive spectrum? I mean, teams make bad signings, but the Rockies are the only ones with the Ian Desmond-type signings, at least that I can think of.
Boston signing Hanley Ramirez to become a left fielder actually worked out worse than the Desmond experiment, but then again Ramirez had pretty much become a DH by that time. Desmond played an acceptable OF and made much more sense there, if not a return to the infield or a Chris Taylor type everyday sub role.
The Red Sox signed Hanley Ramírez who was a shortstop with the Dodgers and put him in left field. When he couldn’t handle the outfield, then moved him to first base for a year, then played him at DH.
Well, I’m glad KB got paid after the Cubs’ service time jackassery. He’ll end up fairly compensated for his career, even if the years where he produced at an elite level and the years he got paid the big bucks don’t line up.
I have a sneaking feeling that the Rockies firing their head of analytics has to do with said head of analytics being less than enthused about how the Rockies FO/ownership has operated for the past decade, and Monfort’s delicate sensibilities were once again offended.
Roster resource has Bryant hitting 2nd. No middle of order forecast. Yes, what they paid for these skills and his age is truly a head scratcher. No Qi to either Story or Gray And now this. I think the comment that Montfort is just competing in town owners is probably correct. I also believe Rockies competed against themselves about contract amount. No doubt they were played. Nobody else would have gone that long for those dollars. So Bryant now plays for personal stats and not wins. Look for his average to be .250ish with 35 HR’s. Many solo if he hits 2 spot.
Fundamentally, the Rockies have always been good at having at least two players that fans can root for, regardless of how good the club is. With Arenado and Story gone, signing Bryant helps Blackmon fill that purpose, especially for all the ex-Cubs fans in Denver. But I bet both are gone by the 2023-2024 offseason.
Both Cubs fans are gone by 2024?
Having come this far, the Rockies best moves are going to be seeing if they can get Conforto and Pham on short-term (1 or 2 year) contracts, which would significantly upgrade the outfield. Then see if they shoud see if they can get Cueto and Watson to sign minor league contracts with invitations to spring training to see if either of those guys have anything left. If Cueto could even take 100 IP at a 4.50 ERA from the last three guys in the rotation, that would be an improvement. As currently constructed, the Rockies are going to have to score 6 or 7 runs per game on a regular basis in order to win. That’s too tall of an order.
If this Bryant deal doesn’t go well, I would reach the point where if I’m a player and the Rockies are my #1 suitor I’d be nervous as hell