Let’s Make Some Deals: 2023 Trade Deadline Edition

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With less than a week to go until the trade deadline, things have been relatively quiet on the transaction front, possibly due to the uncertainty surrounding Shohei Ohtani’s availability. But now that an Ohtani trade is off the table, I think we can expect things to really start moving in the next day or so. That makes this the perfect time for one of my favorite/most dreaded pieces of the year, in which I kick things off with some trade imagineering that hopefully doesn’t result in too many people being mad at me. Not all of these deals would necessarily be accepted if they were offered as-is — teams value players differently, after all — nor am I reporting on actual trades that are in the works. But I tried to make sure that each of these deals was plausible and actually met the needs of the teams in question. Let’s get to it!

The Philadelphia Phillies acquire 1B Paul Goldschmidt from the St. Louis Cardinals for OF Johan Rojas, SS Hao-Yu Lee, and OF Carlos De La Cruz

Right now, the Phillies are hoping to get Rhys Hoskins, who is a free agent at the end of the season, back for a playoff run. But rather than pin their postseason dreams on a guy coming off a significant injury, why not simply get a plug-and-play first baseman who is signed through 2024? If Hoskins turns out to be healthy for the playoffs, the Phillies will have an extra pinch-hitter ready for situational duty. But if they trade for Goldschmidt, it would solidify first base while also allowing them to put Bryce Harper back at DH most games. That would leave Kyle Schwarber and the heavily slumping Nick Castellanos to fight for playing time once Cristian Pache returns from his elbow injury (assuming he picks up where he left off). The Phillies are ninth in the NL in runs scored and with a fairly set lineup, there just aren’t a lot of places to add significant run production. Goldschmidt is about as good as you can do at the deadline this year.

On the other side, Rojas gives the Cardinals some of what they lost when Harrison Bader was sent to the Yankees, while Lee could eventually end up playing second base for the Red Birds. Lastly, De La Cruz is a highly intriguing bat who is kind of blocked in Philadelphia at the moment.

The Baltimore Orioles acquire P Dylan Cease from the Chicago White Sox for INF Jordan Westburg, CF Jud Fabian, SS Joey Ortiz, and P Justin Armbruester

The Orioles have churned out an impressive assortment of hitting prospects the last few years, but the farm system hasn’t been able to come up with starting pitching anywhere near as well. Even assuming that Grayson Rodriguez works out, the Orioles likely need more rotation help and it’s probably going to have to come from outside the organization. That might mean trading away some of their young hitters and watching them succeed elsewhere. The team is contending, but I don’t think the front office is suddenly full of wild gamblers, so I doubt we’ll start seeing names like Coby Mayo or Heston Kjerstad move for short-term rentals.

Dylan Cease, however, is not a short-term rental; the Orioles would get to keep him until the end of the 2025 season. This may be blasphemy to some, but given their respective contract situations, I’d happily give up more for Cease than I would for Ohtani. Westburg’s stock has shot up this year, and with ZiPS seeing him as an above-average starter in the majors right now, the White Sox could reap the benefits of having him on the team very quickly. Since Cease represents significant value, the Pale Hose are going to need to offer more than just Westburg, so I included two interesting offensive prospects in Fabian and Ortiz who could help shore up the organization’s lackluster depth. I also included Armbruester, a little talked-about pitching prospect who probably has a good shot at fitting in the back of the rotation in the not-too-distant future.

The big question is just how available Cease actually is. The White Sox are a mess at the moment, but they’ve given every indication that they think they’ll be contenders in 2024. That might make it difficult to get them to part with Cease without a ridiculously lopsided offer. I don’t think the Orioles would go that far, but it’s certainly worth asking.

The Los Angeles Angels acquire OF Cody Bellinger and P Marcus Stroman from the Chicago Cubs for P Jack Kochanowicz, SS Kyren Paris, and P Sam Bachman

Après Ohtani, le déluge. Ohtani is finishing the season in Anaheim, and while we’ve talked a lot about theoretical Ohtani trades, we haven’t really discussed what the Angels should do if they’re buyers instead of sellers. Since they’ve decided to keep Ohtani, it doesn’t make sense to just shuffle around where they are; if you’re pushing in your chips, push in all your damn chips. The Angels already picked up Lucas Giolito from the Sox, but that might not be enough given their position in the playoff race. Stroman and Bellinger are both short-term rentals, at least if Stroman opts out of the final year of his deal, which is almost certainly the right move from his perspective. If I were the Angels, I’d give up even more than this — I initially had them giving up Edgar Quero as the centerpiece, but they already traded him for Giolito. I’d even be open to including a different pitcher if the Cubs were worried about Bachman’s shoulder.

The Cincinnati Reds acquire P Eduardo Rodriguez from the Detroit Tigers for P Brandon Williamson, CF Michael Siani, and P Carson Spiers

The NL Central is ripe for the taking, and the Reds really could use a starting pitcher to help secure a division crown. (I originally sent Giolito to Cincinnati, but trades wait for no man… to finish writing his piece.) I don’t expect the Reds to give up the house for anyone — productive minor leaguers are basically a necessity if the team is going to be a basement-tier spender. But I don’t think the Tigers will get a haul for E-Rod, as he’s almost guaranteed to hit free agency via his opt-out — he’ll easily beat the three years and $49 million remaining on his current deal — and carries heightened injury risk. Maybe this isn’t enough to tempt the Tigers, but I’d certainly try to offer a package like this first. I’d be open to talking about Chase Petty or Christian Encarnacion-Strand if I absolutely have to.

The San Francisco Giants acquire P Jordan Montgomery and SS Paul DeJong from the St. Louis Cardinals for P Landen Roupp and P Keaton Winn

My goal here was to improve the Giants without making a trade that requires them to give up Kyle Harrison, Luis Matos, or Marco Luciano, as I don’t think they’d do that except in extreme circumstances. The rotation hasn’t been great after Logan Webb and Alex Cobb, and as the Giants have very good playoff odds, another dependable arm in the rotation is a must. They can choose from the also-rans situationally when a fourth starter is needed in a potential playoff series. I like Casey Schmitt, but his aggression at the plate has been taken advantage of by pitchers, and Brandon Crawford, while better, is well past his peak. It may have gone unnoticed given St. Louis’ extremely disappointing season, but DeJong has put up a nice little season. He’s on track for 20 homers and is no longer looking up longingly at the Mendoza line. Roupp has a clear path to the rotation in St. Louis in 2024 (the team needs starters), and Winn offers some flexibility in his usage. That Winn is a fastball/splitter pitcher with no impressive breaking pitch doesn’t even doom him to the bullpen; Kevin Gausman has shown that success can happen with that profile. Both these prospects have fairly high floors without big ceilings, and that’s usually right up the Cards’ alley.

The Minnesota Twins acquire P Josh Hader from the San Diego Padres for P Marco Raya and P Brent Headrick

The projections still give the Padres a fighting chance at the playoffs, but I think we’re approaching the threshold where San Diego tries to retool a bit and trade off talent that isn’t signed for 2024. This is a seller’s market, and given the state of the Padres farm system, the lure of getting some prospects back has to be real. I don’t think the Twins will make a huge move, at least in part because of the big league success the prospects they traded to the Reds and Orioles last year have experienced, but our depth charts (and ZiPS on its own) see the Twins as having one of the weakest and shallowest bullpens among the contending teams. And there isn’t likely to be anyone better than Hader available.

The Milwaukee Brewers acquire 3B Jeimer Candelario from the Washington Nationals for 2B Robert Moore and SS Freddy Zamora

I can’t imagine that the Brewers will stand completely pat given their precarious lead in the NL Central, but I suspect they aren’t in the mix for the best players available at the deadline. The team is 13th in the NL in runs scored, so they need to add offense fast, and Candelario’s a solid bat to plug into the middle of the order for two months. Third base has been one of the lineup’s (many) weak spots. Brian Anderson has been fairly mediocre this season and is currently on the injured list, while Luis Urías, previously one of the team’s unsung heroes, missed time with an injury to start the season and then played such bad baseball upon his return that he ended up back in Triple-A. Urías has hit better of late in the minors, but I don’t think the Brewers should be putting all their eggs in that basket with such little time left to find another plan. Plus, even if Urías storms back to the majors, the Brew Crew have been awful at first base and designated hitter, too.

The Tampa Bay Rays acquire P Kyle Finnegan from the Washington Nationals for SS Greg Jones

While Hader would be a lot of fun on the Rays, Tampa Bay tends to go the quieter route. The Rays bullpen has been unusually shallow (for them) this year, and while Finnegan has been merely middling for the Nats, his stuff is better than his strikeout rate suggests, with a plus fastball and splitter to go with a decent slider. This is an organization that has a knack for squeezing performance out of underperforming pitchers with raw tools, and I think they could do similarly with Finnegan, who isn’t a free agent until after 2025. Jones is blocked at shortstop by a Wanderwall, and the Nats are in the stage of their rebuild where they should be grabbing as much raw talent as they can, regardless of position.

Have your own trade you want to get people mad about? Jump into the comments!





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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sadtrombonemember since 2020
1 year ago

The return for these seems to be pretty low. There are not a lot of sellers and there are a lot of buyers, and in several of these cases the teams don’t actually have to trade them (Goldschmidt, Cease). The Padres may not even do anything, especially if that’s the return. The only one I think seems like it’s the right level is the Rays trade for Finnegan.

tz
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I think the biggest deals may actually be need-for-need deals between teams on the playoff bubble, especially if it’s between an AL and an NL wild-card contender. Nobody wants to cough up the farm for a rental, and I’d find it hard for someone with 2024 control like Goldschmidt to be moved if their team isn’t planning on blowing off the 2024 season.

wadz
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Like that’s not going to be the best can do for Candelario in this market.. that’s even skewered more towards the sellers in the last couple of days…

Rizzo might even package Candy and Thomas like he’s done in the past with Scherzer+Trea, Soto+Bell

sadtrombonemember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  wadz

And that one might be one of the closer ones. You can sometimes trade guys like Zamora and Moore for a rental bat, but there have to be more of them than this.

I kind of wonder if the Nats would be interested in this deal more if Garrett Mitchell was added.

HappyFunBallmember since 2019
1 year ago
Reply to  wadz

I like Candy + Thomas to CLE for …. stuff. CLE has lots of stuff, especially pitching, that WAS sorely needs. Thomas would step in as the OF’s leading power bat (yes really, and I know that’s sad) and has another year of control, while Candy could move JRam to 2nd, or simply take over for Josh Bell.

Hell, WAS could even eat take back Bell to juice the prospect return.

Left of Centerfield
1 year ago
Reply to  HappyFunBall

Cleveland’s not trading away pitching. They have Aaron Civale, 3 rookies, and 3 injured starters whose future is uncertain. And very little behind them in the minors. Also, Ramirez isn’t moving to 2nd. Cleveland still has 634 middle infielders in the majors and minors.

HappyFunBallmember since 2019
1 year ago

If CLE thought any of those 634 infielders were ready to help the offense, they’d have been called up by now. As a rental, Candy doesn’t get in the way of anyone’s long term plans.

Left of Centerfield
1 year ago
Reply to  HappyFunBall

Two of them – Arias and Freeman – are already in the majors – and Cleveland wants to give them a chance. Plus, there’s zero chance they move Ramirez to 2B.

And 1B is mostly occupied by Naylor. So that leaves DH. Which means that Washington would have to accept Josh Bell back in a trade. Except Bell has a $16.5M player option for next year which he’s definitely picking up. So Cleveland would have to pay a premium for Washington to take him back in a trade.

Then there’s the question as to whether Candy is better than Bell as a hitter. Bell was better last year which is why he got a much bigger contract. This year? Candy has the better numbers but Bell has much better xwOBA. Which means Bell may still be the better hitter.

fjtorres
1 year ago

Then Bell had better get it in gear in the next two months.
That said, a 1B/OF is a more likely target for Cleveland.

wadz
1 year ago
Reply to  HappyFunBall

Yankees are another fit for Candylane. Exactly what they need

Cool Lester Smoothmember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  wadz

The only thing the Yankees need is a fire sale.

matt
1 year ago
Reply to  HappyFunBall

If Cleveland goes the cheaper route they could take Alex Call, a plus defender in center but can play all 3 OF spots who hits lefties decently ( but can’t hit righties) to platoon with Brennan.

fjtorres
1 year ago
Reply to  matt

Cleveland had Call up last year…
…for about a week.
Don’t recall if he got an AB…

Last edited 1 year ago by fjtorres
Left of Centerfield
1 year ago
Reply to  fjtorres

16 PAs across 12 games with Cleveland last year.

fjtorres
1 year ago

Gotcha.
Not listed here.

Jimmy von Albademember since 2019
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The comp pick for Bellinger alone is worth roughly a 40+ in the draft if they don’t trade him. I find it hard to believe the surplus value of trading both him and Stroman is just two 40s when Giolito netted a 50 and 40.

John Wickmember since 2018
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

These returns are particularly light where teams would easily extend QOs (Hader, Belly, Montgomery, I assume ERod though I’m not sure if he’s had one before?)

sadtrombonemember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  John Wick

E-Rod has had one, but he’s also probably the most valuable starter available at the deadline. Montgomery and Stroman have looked a little shaky lately.

Glengarry Glenn Braggs
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Has Montgomery really looked that shaky? He had a bad start in Wrigley. But in July – that poor start included – he has a 2.74 ERA, 20:8 K:BB ratio, only 2 HRs allowed in 23 IP, a .205/.277/.374 slash line against. I mean, I know that’s not 1998 Randy Johnson, but it’s pretty much right in line with Montgomery’s numbers all season.

sadtrombonemember since 2020
1 year ago

Fair enough, I was letting recency bias take over.

Brianmember since 2017
1 year ago
Reply to  John Wick

The Cardinals would not just want to get a 2nd round draft pick, that probably wouldn’t help the MLB club until at least 2029, when they get attempt to get a prospect that could help in 2024…

Shalesh
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yep, either Zips is higher on all of these prospects than Longenhagen is or Dan isn’t aware that Giolito just got traded for an FV50 and all of Stroman, ERod, and Montgomery are better than Giolito and none of Dan’s deals include an FV50. Likewise, Cease will return an FV60 and FV45+ not just an FV50 and a couple of FV45’s and Goldschmidt returned two FV50’s when he had 1 year of control a few years ago, so he should go for that this time too since he’s still playing at a 4.5-win level.

tyfreddy
1 year ago
Reply to  Shalesh

He’s definitely aware that Giolito got traded for a 50 since he mentioned that Quero got moved in the second to last sentence of the Bellinger/Stroman trade. Definitely seems like a weak return.

jwa05001
1 year ago
Reply to  Shalesh

Yeah the Sox got two top 50 prospects in the trade for Cease (cease and Jiminez) for a pitcher under similar control situation (Quintana)

jdbolickmember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  jwa05001

Quintana was a reliable innings eater who had produced 20.1 fWAR over the previous four and a half seasons when he was traded. Cease has never reached 200 innings, and produced 11.9 fWAR over the previous four and a half seasons.

Dylan’s fastball velocity is down, his exit velocity is a career worst, his Z-Contact% is up, and his Zone% is down. Anyone who trades a FV60 for him would need their head examined.

rickdugo3000
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

yeah these trades suck lol

how does stroman and bellinger get significantly less than giolito and lopez

gettwobrute79member since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Agreed. If I’m Chicago and I’m trading Cease, and Baltimore could have him for three postseasons, the centerpiece better be someone like Mayo.

As you said, there ain’t many sellers and with Ohtani off the market (plus the premium they paid for Giolito), the price for Cease or any other potential good arm with control should be sky high. I’m not sure what other arms may fit that bill on non contenders. Keller?

sadtrombonemember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  gettwobrute79

I think this is correct. I don’t necessarily think any of these guys are going to get moved, but an FV55 position player is probably the centerpiece of a Cease trade. Mayo or Lawlar, most likely. I don’t really believe in Cartaya, I think Caminero is probably a 60, and I don’t think Mayer or Mead are going anywhere for various reasons. Otherwise, you would have to send back something like six or seven players, including multiple FV50s. If they threw in Cowser and DL Hall to this deal it would probably work (but I’m high on Cowser).

Cool Lester Smoothmember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I’d also rather have Lawlar than Mayer, if I were the White Sox.

Much better defender…and he’s actually hitting in AA.

Cool Lester Smoothmember since 2020
1 year ago

(Hoping someone pitches me on Mayer over Lawlar…but I know it will just be another downvote 😂)

sadtrombonemember since 2020
1 year ago

Mayer is a tools bet. He likely has more raw power and his swing is very pretty. There are also some questions about Lawlar’s hit tool. I would counter that there are also a bunch of questions about Mayer’s hit tool and that he might have to move to third base.

My sense is that pretty much everyone has them back to back in terms of future value, but I feel more confident with Lawlar. I’ve never put a lot of stock in a “pretty” swing. I’d probably go Lawlar, Mayer, Merrill, Colson Montgomery, and then Amador, but Mayer is a whole lot closer to Merrill than Lawlar.

(although I would put Caminero as clearly the second best infield prospect in the minors behind Holliday, and Brooks Lee probably tied with Lawlar)

Cool Lester Smoothmember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yeah, the main thing is Lawlar has been a lot better, every time he’s been the same age as Mayer, and at the same level.

Which is why, after they both opened last year in Low-A, Lawlar reached AA at the end of the season, while Mayer opened this year in Salem.

…and why Lawlar will likely finish this season in AAA (he’s been on fire since the start of June), while Mayer and his pretty swing will open next year in Portland.

jdbolickmember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  gettwobrute79

Cease will turn 28 this winter and has already shown clear signs of decline. I wouldn’t trade Westburg for him straight up.

HowBoutDemOsmember since 2019
1 year ago
Reply to  jdbolick

Not that ZiPS is everything, but it projects Cease with 11.1 fWAR between now and 2025, his last year of team control (including his remaining fWAR this year). It projects Westburg with 8.7 fWAR over that same time. I would definitely trade Westburg for him straight up given current roster composition, but I wouldn’t add a whole lot more to the deal. Cease has the advantage of being a rarer commodity but the downside of increased injury risk (and has lost a full tick of velo in the last year).

When you consider that Westburg will be substantially cheaper for the next two years, and then will have multiple years of team control after Cease hits free agency, the gap isn’t that huge, certainly not equal to a top 100 prospect (Ortiz), a near-MLB ready No. 5 starter/swingman (Armbruester), and an upside CF.

HowBoutDemOsmember since 2019
1 year ago
Reply to  HowBoutDemOs

I just realized that I was adding an extra year of team control to Cease. He’s actually got 8 fWAR projected until he’s a free agent, while Westburg is at 5.7 over that same period. But then you get Westburg for another three years. I’d do Westburg and Armbruester and maybe a 35+ guy for Cease, but I wouldn’t do this deal, and I’m confused that anyone thinks the O’s are underpaying.

jdbolickmember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  HowBoutDemOs

I think the ZiPS projection for Cease is wildly optimistic. It has him for a better BB% in each of the next three seasons (3.63, 3.47, and 3.30) than his career best mark (3.69 in 2021). With the velocity loss and Zone% decline, I expect his BB% to continue rising rather than falling, while I expect his K% to fall as well. At 28, that is not a profile I would want to invest in.

Last edited 1 year ago by jdbolick
HowBoutDemOsmember since 2019
1 year ago
Reply to  jdbolick

We’re definitely on the same page that others here seem to be overvaluing Cease, and you’ve convinced me that the concerns are even greater than I was initially thinking. I’d still be interested given the short term needs and the years of control, plus the possibility the O’s development team can improve him, but I would not do the trade proposed in this article.