Members-Only Game Thread: LCS – Oct 12, 2026
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Rich Hill's Fastball
Poll results have 0 faith in the Dodgers' bats to disappoint
Solitaire
Even after losing Game 1, Fangraphs has the Dodgers at 53% to beat the Brewers (and an implied 76% to beat whoever comes out of the AL). Surely this is crazy right? Even with the Dodgers rotation? More likely the Dodgers win 4-of-6 than the 103 win Brewers win 3-of-6?
Solitaire
Having a 53% of taking at least 4-of-6 implies ~60% of winning for each game. 60-40 is an awful lot for a single baseball game and all its randomness. The Dodgers had a 61% win rate against all teams. Surely you expect that to be more than a single percentage point lower against the strongest opponent?
Benny The Jet
I've been meaning to ask, is the poll question for the game, or for the series?
Sean Dolinar
Welcome everyone! I'm excited we get two games tonight. We got some polls today, including the SP poll I wish I had yesterday with Misiorowski not getting through the 5th.
Sean Dolinar
Game.
Benny The Jet
Thanks Sean, and thank you as always for hosting these chats, excited to talk baseball for the next 8 hours!
Sean Dolinar
Thank you all for being here (these chats would be quite lame otherwise) and being Members.
notbrandonzink
I think it makes sense when you line up the pitching matchups, especially with the Miz looking vulnerable (though projections probably don't take it into account). The Brewers are essentially doing a long opener into bullpen game for games 3 and 4 while the Dodgers get Snell and Glasnow, not to mention that the Dodgers have a deeper bullpen.
war2d2
Is it just me or did MLB somehow manage to time these games to get the lowest possible ratings? I live on the west coast and I’m going to completely miss the Dodger game and probably miss half or more of the Guardians game before I get home from work.
Sean Dolinar
I'm guessing MLB is about as happy about this as you are.
Sean Dolinar
These broadcast schedules for the LCS are setup and released in August.
lzfreak
If the Dodgers lose this series, how much falls on Ohtani? He's been underperforming for awhile now
Sean Dolinar
Isn't this the part of the movie where the superhero loses his powers and you have to find a way to prevail anyway?
Rich Hill's Fastball
Man, he really has lost his powers :(
Matt Martell
Interestingly, this is the only two-game day that has the Dodgers-Brewers playing the early game.
Matt Martell
Also hi
Christiaan Honig
brutal
war2d2
Seems weird that they wouldn’t be able to talk to the networks and get consensus on moving game times. A 6pm EDT start for CLE vs. TBR and 8pm EDT start for LAD vs. the amoral deviants should work for everyone.
Sæder
perhaps because it's a holiday for some?
war2d2
You know what, I didn’t even consider that. I don’t get it off so I wasn’t thinking of it. You’re almost certainly right.
Sæder
i think it's my first time off, to be sure
Sean Dolinar
edited
I don't think TBS wants to lose a prime time game.
Rich Hill's Fastball
I'm not off with the holiday. No one tell my boss I'm here!!
Benny The Jet
Random thought: how fascinating would it be to see these two managers switch dugouts and have to manage the other team
Matt Martell
This is a fun thought. I think Roberts could manage the Brewers, but I don't know if Murphy's schtick would fly with the Dodgers' superstar roster
war2d2
Where do you think Roberts ranks on all-time managers list? My personal feeling is that managers pretty much never add victories (even Francona couldn’t make the Reds a winner), but they absolutely can remove them (early-2000s Cubs eg). Roberts seems to be able to at least keep the egos all pointed in the right direction.
Matt Martell
I think he's one of the best there is. I think his job is significantly more difficult than it seems, beyond just the egos. It's also the expectations the team has every year, the mixing and matching his lineup requires, the dealing with injuries, etc. He also is the best around at criticizing his guys publicly and privately when they need it. He doesn't coddle
Rich Hill's Fastball
He also has more press personnel to manage on a daily basis, just due to the media market
Matt Martell
Yes, and from my experience (only covering him on the road), he's very good at that compared to other major market managers/head coaches I've covered
Jon Becker
One thing that this (bad) camera angle does show really well is Yamamoto’s step back as part of his delivery
Rich Hill's Fastball
I'm gonna see Brice Turang in my nightmares
Doug Gray
It is Spooky Season
Matt Martell
Lol Contreras checked his challenge
brewersbibliophile
Got me. I thought he committed to it.
Benny The Jet
How did he hit that?
Jon Becker
Smoltz describing competitive two-strike pitches as “putting pressure on the umpire” was a very interesting way to put it, gotta give him credit where it’s due
Rich Hill's Fastball
For all his [many] faults, Smoltz is a good pitching analyst
Matt Martell
Some players described it to me earlier this year with ABS similarly, oddly as a reason to hold onto challenges for later in the game. I thought that was funny but didn't think that would last as a strategy
drplantwrench
seeing yamamoto give up any runs in the postseason feels strange
Anonymous Member #46
Given all of your flair, this must be an incredibly exciting development for you.
Jon Becker
And immediately thereafter Smoltz makes me roll my eyes by saying the art of pitching is declining
beanbong
It's hard to imagine Tampa or Cleveland going toe-to-toe with either of these teams (especially Cleveland), this kinda feels like the de facto World Series. At least it's the two best teams this year
Matthew Tobin
Been having severe gastric issue the past few days, But at least I have baseball to watch while I am in the hospital. It make my day!
Matt Martell
Hope you get better soon!
Christiaan Honig
Does anybody like Smoltz?
lzfreak
I actually think he did a pretty good job in last year's World Series when he was enjoying the baseball in a fantastic series. And he's good at breaking down pitching mechanics. But 95% of the time he's either making things up, complaining about the modern game, or both.
Sean Dolinar
Tangential, but I muted the pregame because I'm tired of the Yankees and Red Sox players.
Benny The Jet
Does he have high approval? Not even trying to hate, but how has he held on to the top job for so long while being so obviously ill-equipped to everyone who watches?
Sean Dolinar
But I'm slightly indifferent to Smoltz. There have been a few times, though.
beanbong
he's putting up ba'athist party numbers in front of older gen x/boomer focus groups
drplantwrench
idea for poll: who are the most and least likable teams left in the playoffs?
Rich Hill's Fastball
Maybe we don't need the "least likable team?" 😆
drplantwrench
doth thou protest too much? (actually think dodgers are underrated in their likability)
brewersbibliophile
Compared to the Yankees team that ruined baseball, the Dodgers are extremely likable.
Sean Dolinar
Let me see if I can build out a ranked choice poll.
Sæder
not having A-Rod helps.
war2d2 edited
I mean, on a player-by-player basis it’s hard to be less likable than these Brewers. I realize I’m heavily biased, but almost all of them come off as classless jerks. Contreras, Miz, and Uribe in particular.
drplantwrench
this is my main *gulp* pro-dodgers argument – all their top talent and stars are nearly lovable (shohei, betts, freeman, yamamoto, teo, etc.) personally i dont like will smith and max muncy but thats about it really
war2d2
Agree on Smith, he just never seems to be having any fun. Muncy however is kind of a lovable weirdo.
lzfreak
Dodgers are doing a good job of making these Brewers starters throw a lot of pitches. Could pay dividends down the line this series even if they aren't putting up big runs scored totals yet
Sæder
i really like JRAM
Sæder
glasnow and snell are a hoot
war2d2
I don’t know if there’s a bigger delta between perception and reality than Snell. He looks like he should be selling meth behind a 7-11 in Redding CA, but by all accounts (specifically from Eno) he’s a wonderful guy.
Sæder
totally agree. i didn't think he'd be someone i'd find compelling. turns out he's just a video-gaming rapper bro down to get weird with adolescent humor.
drplantwrench
i of course am the self appointed Mayor of Jo Island, so its gonna be hard for me not to say the Guardians are the most likable with Jo and Jram. but i think its actually closer across the 4 teams than one might have assumed
war2d2
JRam is probably my favorite non-Cub in the game (assuming Scherzer retires). And I like him a fair bit more than most of the current Cubs.
lzfreak
Where does Yamamoto rank among all time Japanese baseball players already?
drplantwrench
already 11th in all time bWAR just in front of angels legend Shigetoshi Haegawa. more seriously, everyone in the top 5 has played for almost 10 years, hes on year 3. i think hes got a good chance of being top 3
drplantwrench
but right at this moment, maybe 5 thor 6th?
brewersbibliophile
As a frequent radio listener, Tom Hamilton is my most likable Guardian. I’d be really conflicted as to which broadcast to tune into if it came down to Guardians and Brewers
Sæder
I think Nicole Kidman should do one of these sincere prose ads
Sæder
We come here to find out how many days there are in October
Rich Hill's Fastball
Heartbreak does feel better in a ballpark
Michael Baumann
Back to the manager swap question: Doc would do fine with the Brewers. The Dodgers would beat Murph to death with hammers by Memorial Day
bosoxforlife
WOW!!
Rich Hill's Fastball
Nice catch Sal
Sæder
my annual reminder that Sal Frelick exists and can blow my mind
Rich Hill's Fastball edited
Does that count as smallball? /joke
lzfreak
The smallness of the ball is inversely proportional to payroll
Sæder
Tommy and Mookie are playing diminutive ball
drplantwrench
why would you even try that
wenz
Me, watching on the couch after recently dropping the remote while trying to turn up the volume: Bauers should've caught that
moomin
good thing for the Brewers it's Ohtani up here (/s)
Rich Hill's Fastball
Shohei seems so compromised (injury) that I want JDP to start…which is wild
moomin
I kind of want that, both because JDP's approach has been fun to watch and because I would love to see pinch-runner Ohtani
lzfreak
I've felt that JDP is such a weird fit on this roster. Is his defense really bad enough that he's completely unplayable in a corner outfield? If so he almost has to get traded or improve considerably. The dude can hit!
Rich Hill's Fastball
I have a feeling the Dodgers will move Teoscar over the offseason
beanbong
I get he's Shohei but at what point do they have that uncomfortable conversation if he doesn't show up somewhat in this series? If ohtani's 3 for 23 with 11 Ks after this series and the Dodgers move on, do you really sit him down and tell him he's coming off the bench in the world series? probably not
bosoxforlife
I think that will be difficult and they will have to take a beating value wise.
Sæder
is that a spike lee thing? do the right thing?
Ostensibly Ridiculous
Why is this game on so early!?
drplantwrench
the simple solution is for the dodgers to move off of shohei. simple solution is to trade him back to the angels (unbiased take)
bosoxforlife
I really enjoyed David Hamilton when he was on the Red Sox. Jus ta little more offense and would have been a very good player.
Sæder
what is the reflector on the forehead of the catcher's mask? i've never seen a catcher pull down a visor?
wenz
Solar panel to charge the pitchcom
bosoxforlife
Turang is going to get quite a bit of down ballot MVP votes. I see him around 5th-7th overall.
lzfreak
Think I'd have him around 3rd
beanbong
got curious and saw the Vegas o/u on this game is 6.5. Maybe an overreaction to all the low-scoring games this year, this game could blow the lid off that
drplantwrench
>2 base runners
> nice catch to prevent damage
time for yamamoto to throw the ball away on a pick off
wenz
Almost!!
Rich Hill's Fastball
He almost did lol!
drplantwrench
i am nostradamus
bosoxforlife
When I first saw ABS in AAA there were several pitcher challenges. Yamamoto wanted to challenge ball 4 to Turang so badly but they are as rare as a unicorn.
drplantwrench
who benefits more from having to go to the bullpen early? id assume brewers?
Sæder
is that woman with the spiral notebook the famous front row amy?
bosoxforlife
Yamamoto proved he has a rubber arm in last year's WS but at 70+ through 3 he isn't long for this game.
Rich Hill's Fastball
What an at bat!
drplantwrench
bauers is making yamamoto work, and also muncy work (chasing down foul balls). genius move
wenz
Do pitchcom replacements count as a mound visit? They should
Phil
Blatant stalling like this especially.
lzfreak
They do not and I strongly suspect pitchers feign a pitch com issue to get a break/mound visit pretty frequently
mr. burrito
the pitch calling device failing on the 414th pitch of this at bat might be strategic…
brewersbibliophile
I see what you did there
Sean Dolinar
That solar panel failed!
Sean Dolinar
Our SP IP poll isn't looking great.
Matt Martell
That was an incredibly exciting walk
Sæder
major
Rich Hill's Fastball
Are we sure swear words aren't allowed in this chat? (/s)
bosoxforlife
This matchup is what we come to see and Yelich wins.
Phil
That walk was huge.
mr. burrito
this is the least yamamoto game he's pitched in awhile… sign..
Sean Dolinar
I love these lead changes.
Benny The Jet
Man this series has the juice!
wenz
Wow, what an inning
Sean Dolinar
(Just a reminder, you can delay the chat using the cog/gear icon in the top right corner. If you a lot of latency on your streaming source.)
Rich Hill's Fastball
Same number of outs as his game 7 relief appearance…in a start
Benny The Jet
Wow
Sean Dolinar
We had Yamamoto Med: 6, Mean: 6 1/3, Real: 2 2/3.
wenz
I know what everyone is thinking after that hit…why is Yelich's captain C squeezed in above the Nike logo when there's plenty of room on the other side?
lzfreak
I think this Brewers team is the best Dodgers postseason opponent in quite awhile
Phil
I got home from work 20 minutes ago but I feel like a lot has already happened since then
Brian Reinhart
Would it be exaggerating to call that a career-defining hit for Yelich? There's something magical about the team captain guy whose prime was years ago becoming the guy who steps up.
Sæder
do you throw Roki for multi innings?
Matt Martell
A 36-pitch 2/3 of an inning for Yamamoto
Sean Dolinar
18 pitches per out.
Rich Hill's Fastball
This game, and potentially series, changes a lot if Teoscar or Muncy catch one of those foul balls
jtrichey
Turang could have had called strike 3 in both at bats if ump/or Will Smith had made the call. All 3 runs have scored because of those.
bosoxforlife
Or Yamamoto who clearly indicated he wanted to challenge but apparently is not given the opportunity.
mr. burrito
have the dodgers struck out in this game? i'm probably jinxing something by asking, but…
Rich Hill's Fastball
Ohtani struck out in the first
jtrichey
Ohtani struck out
wenz
Wow, this is my first time seeing Sasaki's clown glove. I do not like it
brewersbibliophile
That is pretty wild
Brian Reinhart
It looks like he stole it from Bernie Brewer himself
war2d2
Is it the same as the massive red glove Gausman had at the end of the season? I’m at work and can’t look.
mr. burrito
muncy is best fielding gnome in baseball and gardening history
Lagom
Even if they don’t hold on to this lead, really fun to see such resiliency from MIL. Will really make LAD earn it
Davy Andrews
Just got here. What's everybody talking about? Baseball?
Sæder
my goodness
Matt Martell
Bulworth, actually
lzfreak
Small ball!
Davy Andrews
Alright, it's been fun everybody.
Sean Dolinar
Henderson should only be throwing the ball toward home plate.
Sæder edited
i guess i guessed right about Henderson. 4+ is the same as 4IP. certainly didn't guess right about YY going 7
bosoxforlife
Pitchers throwing to 1st is an adventure in and of itself.
Benny The Jet
This game is drunk already
David
So all 3 Dodgers runs are the result of Henderson's throwing errors/wild pitches
springtraneing
"watching baseball" – jon bois
Matt Martell
baseball rules
bosoxforlife
I would like to see a stat on the percentage of bad throws pitchers make on bunt attempts.
moomin
sometimes I idly wonder how well a strategy of "bunt to the pitcher every time" would go
Sean Dolinar
We were high on Logan Henderson too. Mean 4.45, Median 5, and actual 4+.
Phil
We were influenced by yesterday. Had that game been higher scoring we would have expected a messier game today.
Sæder
do Roki and May count to the SP innings?
Benny The Jet
Who is starting Game 3?
bosoxforlife
Gasser for the Brewers.
wenz
I'd think about an IBB here
Matt Martell
That fist-pump was incredible
Sæder
SMOL BOL
Sean Dolinar
Didn't seem that close, but you get two challenges in the postseason.
JakeDubois
You gotta try
bosoxforlife
That last angle shows the foot on the plate. Looks safe to me.
Sean Dolinar
As much as I think of the production quality as cheap, the ACC football review system with the audio between the ref and the command center is great to learn about their process.
Sean Dolinar
I want to know what these umps are talking about. And see the relevant angles, just not just multiviewers in their room.
brewersbibliophile
I’m guessing this won’t be the last lead change tonight
Davy Andrews
Are you at the game again?
brewersbibliophile
Unfortunately not. I’ll be back Sunday if it goes that long
Sæder
is smoltz thinking of Weird Science?
Phil
I don't understand the earned run rule. Henderson has three ERs. But the errors influenced more than one run, yes?
Patrick Burke
Pretend like the error hadn't occurred and it was just a groundout. Tucker scoring is considered earned, because he likely advances to third on the grounder to Henderson, then scores on Mookie groundout.
millvillemeltdown
what is a baseball
millvillemeltdown
i'm still supposed to be doing thermo homework. i am pretty bad at this student thing
Sæder
entropy?
Phil
All I know is you're not allowed to have perpetual motion machines.
millvillemeltdown
first week on cycles! i love me some heat engine
drplantwrench
imho one of the great skills of academia is learning when to delegate time to doing your homework and when not to (im just advocating for baseball really)
millvillemeltdown
it's due in 2 hours, i'm afraid i'm well and truly cooked
drplantwrench
then another greak skills of academia is to face the music and accept failure
Sean Dolinar
At least you can measure and calculate how much you are cooked.
millvillemeltdown
ΔHvap of a millvillemeltdown is… not very high as it turns out
ichiro262
Does any part of the glove count for the tag? Like the strings? Or just the main body of the glove?
millvillemeltdown
oh hello ichiro, big fan of your work. i heard about the statue though, what a shame
Davy Andrews
Strings don't count.
Phil
Yep.
lzfreak
This game already feels like it's been 3 games
drplantwrench
BAAANG
Davy Andrews
Every team should have a Contreras brother.
Patrick Burke
What a fun game! One of my favorite ballparks to watch on TV.
drplantwrench
the Rays lab scientists are building the Contreras cloning machine as we speak
millvillemeltdown
i think yama having such trouble this time out is enough of an indictment of like. "grr starting pitchers these days" like
Phil
This was the first year since 2022 that Willson had more fWAR than William. On the other hand William looks really good right now. Who would you rather have next year?
Davy Andrews
Sorry, I'm too busy coming up with names for the 28 other Contreras brothers. Willton, Willbur, Willgernon, Willnando…
millvillemeltdown
willyer for extra confusion
drplantwrench
angels would be the team to end up with the Wilbur…
brewersbibliophile
Willenium
wenz
I tried to get tickets to this game from his brother Willcall
millvillemeltdown
willsmith
Matt Martell
Willians?
Brian Reinhart
Willt Chamberllain
millvillemeltdown
la tortuguita!!!
Davy Andrews
There is only one Willians.
millvillemeltdown
and he's a stud, illo
millvillemeltdown
is he in npb? i feel like i heard he was playing in npb
Phil
Looks like only until 2023. Since then Astudillo has played in Mexico and Venezuela.
Matt Martell
I covered Willians Astudillo' major league debut when the Twins were playing the Cubs at Wrigley during a crazy weekend heatwave on Saturday, June 30, 2018. He only entered the game because multiple Twins left the game due to heat illness. He replaced Eddie Rosario in LF and later had to move to CF when Max Kepler left the game. He started the next game at 3B.
Anonymous Member #46
Willians Astudillo is the perfect Immaculate Grid answer for Twins/center field
lzfreak
I was at this game! Miserably hot
Matt Martell
That whole weekend and the days after were also brutal
lzfreak
My friend and I were at the Lincoln Park zoo a couple days before the game and it was a survival battle just to find shade. It was a dangerous few days
millvillemeltdown
if the rubberiest-armed guy, known for having rubber arm, cannot do the thing where his arm is rubber for 5 innings in the post season, maybe the hitters have just gotten better to the point where 200ip is just not that common anymore
Phil
And also, would William have a similar hitting resurgence to Willson's if he quit catching?
millvillemeltdown
also, like, huge credit to the brewers, but still.
Davy Andrews
@Baumann This has got to be the headline of your gamer.
millvillemeltdown
oi, i don't work for free
millvillemeltdown
i want press box cookies
Davy Andrews
Matt didn't get any!
Davy Andrews
They were gone! Such a tragedy.
Matt Martell
I left the stadium at 3:15 AM after filing my column, and stil no cookies. I was destraught
Sean Dolinar
edited
this was Yankee Stadium not Am Fam? (I feel weird calling it that, I didn't even get the name right on my first try.)
Davy Andrews
That first pitch looks like the best one Frelick will get in this AB.
Davy Andrews
As I was saying.
Brian Reinhart
this would be a good time for a ball to hit a bag or some such nonsense
Brian Reinhart
welp
Davy Andrews
Ohtani looks unwilling or unable to pull the ball. Surprised they're not going inside more often.
Brian Reinhart
thanks Tom, I forgot which band did "Hey Jude"
Phil
Wings?
Brian Reinhart
recently learned that if you get "Hey Jude" stuck in your head, your head will never fade the outro
millvillemeltdown
paul mccartney is riffing "jooo-jooo-da-joo-da-jooo-joooo-da-" into oblivion
Patrick Burke
Yeesh Ohtani looks really rough.
AdvantageSchneider
Boo hoo
millvillemeltdown
tbh to my untrained eye he seems like he's… not having fun this year
millvillemeltdown
idk if it's a pain thing or a home life thing (having young kids can do things, so i hear) but i'm just used to ohtani displaying a bit more joie de vivre
Anonymous Member #46
Can we all just take half an hour and have a neutral third party put on some PFPs before we restart the game?
Sean Dolinar
I do love a good interference call.
ooglyman
tough night for pick off throws
wenz
Walk to get to the guy who hit the home run? Interesting…
AdvantageSchneider
Yeah that was dumb
Phil
Well, that IBB didn't really work out.
lzfreak
I wonder if this series gets William over the hump to become the most famous Contreras brother
millvillemeltdown
i remember being excited for sean murphy (he of the ass hbp) to join a larger-market team but man. will the younger really is a helluva ballplayer huh
AdvantageSchneider
Will Vaughn pinch hit for Yeli after Bauers?
Dan Szymborski
I can't fully accept William until he gives back one of the l's his family stole for Willson. Either Willson has to be Wilson or he has to be Wiliam.
millvillemeltdown
consider that two Ls make a W and When you're a Will* Contreras You Gotta Win
lzfreak
Well Willson is on the Red Sox this year, so the 2 straight L's must have been contagious
millvillemeltdown
i think i may be a bit delirious
Sæder
this is stressful
AdvantageSchneider
The entire brewers postseason has been played within 2 runs up or down.
xandercho23
Dodgers offense is iceeeee cold
millvillemeltdown
abner uribe one of the better name tools in the league. ratings, 20-80?
Davy Andrews
This may seem harsh, but I'm only at a 60 because it doesn't scan all that well.
millvillemeltdown
i was gonna give 65, it's certainly unique/outlier but as a package i'm not selling the farm for it
Matt Martell
Hey, at least that one Polymarket commercial shows that parlays don't always hit
Matt Martell
in an ad for 20-combo bets
Matt Martell
wild
AdvantageSchneider
Betting site ads = 1950 commercials for cigarettes.
millvillemeltdown
i'm going to put one cent on a 10^23 leg parlay and pray
Anonymous Member #46
you're gonna want to do your thermodynamics homework too, just in case
millvillemeltdown
hey, chances of me hitting are better than (checks paper) the air in my room configuring itself such that half of it is vacuum
Nick Smith
I like those odds!
Sean Dolinar
The WS starts on mol day!
Anonymous Member #46
That was about two inches away from a hospital stay.
Davy Andrews
They're calling it the most Brewers hit in the history of the Brewers.
Davy Andrews
I am loving how pissed off Pat Murphy looks during this game.
AdvantageSchneider
He should be pissed. Wind sprints for the entire team after the game. Should be a 5-1 laugher.
millvillemeltdown
i think pat murphy would only be happy if his team literally never made an out
Dan Szymborski
I just don't care for gambling. I'll put something down if see a real +EV opportunity, like I did two over/unders this year, putting a tidy sum on over 72.5 for Twins and over 69.5 for Cardinals. But I don't get any adrenalin rush for gambling; I don't care apart from making the numbers in my account go up
Nick Smith
But the dizzying highs! The nauseating lows! You're missing out.
Nick Smith
Just kidding. I don't gamble either, so I can't back that up.
AdvantageSchneider
Maybe you should start betting the brewers over.
Dan Szymborski
feels disloyal to zips
AdvantageSchneider
Ashby for Ohtani or does Megil come in?
Nick Smith
Oh, good, baseball stats filtered by lunar phase. Can we get some "mothers' basement" jokes ready while we're at it?
Sean Dolinar
Is this a splits leaderboard request?
Nick Smith
Goodness no! Just a reaction to a Google ad.😆
AdvantageSchneider
Thank you Red Sox
Davy Andrews
I'm on the Rays-Guards game tonight, so I'm likely done chatting for the night. Nice to be with everybody!
lzfreak
Hamilton is not throwing away his shot
wenz
Related to Billy Hamilton?
bosoxforlife
Squeeze!
Jeremy Fox
COME ON SQUEEZE BUNT
Jeremy Fox
or base hit, that's good too
Sæder
wow. this brewers team
Jeremy Fox
How many do the Brewers have to get for their closer to sit down? 2 more? 3 more?
Phil
More. Day off tomorrow.
wenz
Bauers pushing for that NLCS MVP award
Phil
I honestly thought this would be a tight, well-played game.
AdvantageSchneider
I’m happy with this rock fight.
Bryan Baldwin
Finally!
Nick Smith
Daaaaaaaaaaang!
Jeremy Fox
Pages with a pretty casual-looking basket catch on that fly ball. Did he get a bad read and have to basket catch it?
Bryan Baldwin
So yesterday we were talking commercials, today I’m hoping we can talk about the proliferation of bad haircuts
Nick Smith
I miss the playoff mountain-man beards.
Jeremy Fox
Brandon Marsh got knocked out in the wild card round.
Nick Smith
It used to be that every team had a guy who looked like he had strong opinions on who really ran the banks. Shame.
Matt Martell
I, too, would wipe Biberty off my windshield
Jeremy Fox
Here in Canada I'm watching ads for Konto Furniture and an Italian grocery store in Calgary.
wenz
Might as well leave Ashby in there to face the pitcher
Jeremy Fox
Leaving Ashby in to face Will Smith? I guess it's Ashby's game until someone reaches?
Sæder
brutal. gg
Antonio Bananas
I'll watch nothing but Biberty ads if it means I dont have to see these political ads (I live in Texas, so just imagine)
Anonymous Member #46
Governor Bovernor? Senator Benator? Congressman Bongressman?
lzfreak
Congressman Bongressman would have my vote
Keaton Arneson
As a guardians, I love the TB sac bunt. But even 12 year old Billy Heywood in 1994 wouldn't have done that.
branflakes
Love seeing America be introduced to this wonderful bullpen I've been watching all season
Bryan Baldwin
ChiSox be like “maybe we dodged a bullet”
Sean Dolinar
I just switched over to Guardians/Rays…and I missed something.
Sonny L
Listening to the ALCS on radio while I watch soccer practice, anyone have a rec on which team’s broadcast is better?
Anonymous Member #46
Cleveland's broadcaster is a recent Hall of Fame honoree.
bosoxforlife
Tom Hamilton is the absolute best! His calls reverberate over the airwaves like none other.
Jeremy Fox
I find the Cleveland play-by-play guy to be an acquired taste.
bluestraggler
Rays radio guys are excellent
docgooden85
I just logged in to say I hope the Dodgers keep losing purely since I think it will improve the odds of an earlier post-lockout start to baseball next year. (And Dodgers suck)
bosoxforlife
It is rare to see the batter surprised when the umpire has tot ell him he was hit by the pitch.
lzfreak
Getting clipped in the loose part of the jersey on a 1-2 count is good living
docgooden85
A Yankees-free ALCS is a breath of fresh air too. Baseball is so good. I wish there was more.
Bryan Baldwin
International leagues?
docgooden85
I am not above watching some Caribbean winter league when I can find it.
wenz
The TBS app crashed for like 1 minute with one runner on, and now the bases are loaded??
bosoxforlife
I was watching on the Spanish network.
Phil
I cheated on the poll because it was already 2-0 when I saw Sean had posted the new one. Sorry.
Sean Dolinar
Someone answered the pitcher IP poll for Henderson as he was being pulled.
Rollie's Mustache
Mesa Jr just showing off with that throw. Cannon.
docgooden85
Lineup thoughts: 1. Vilade cleanup is Very Rays. 2. I don't think I would have batted Rocchio after Bailey and Halpin with 184 career ABs. 3. Bottom half is light on both sides.
Phil
Guards getting surprisingly good swings.
Rollie's Mustache
Petey Halpin sounds like a baseball name from the deadball era.
Jeremy Fox
Why do catchers not put their throwing hand in a fist behind their back the way I was taught in Little League centuries ago, to prevent taking a foul tip off the hand?
Phil
I was wondering about thay. The answer to all such questions is "framing," but I don't see the advantage in this case.
docgooden85
His nickname should be Second Halpin' (this might only to be funny to me because I'm fat)
Nick Smith
That looked painful! My hand hurts now.
Jeremy Fox
No one has ever been happier catching a routine low leverage foul pop than Jose Ramirez just now.
Ben Clemens
You know a throw is good when they show multiple angles of a cutoff throw that didn't even produce a tag play. I gasped out loud at that throw
Ben Clemens
(little delayed on the reaction, I had to get to my phone)
Sean Dolinar
Hi Ben!
Bryan Baldwin
Can I just say how much better this chat is than MLB Discord? Holy cow.
Sean Dolinar
Is there an official MLB Discord? I know there are a bunch of places that have them.
Bryan Baldwin
Yes, and there are chats for each game.
Ben Clemens
Hi Sean! Just dropping in briefly, I have dinner plans tonight, but I had to say something about that throw
Ben Clemens
I watched a ton of Victor Mesa Jr. tape for fielding bible voting this year. He's electric, but I don't think I saw a throw that good
Ben Clemens
It's not quite playoff Randy, but really fun debut-into-postseason-success arc
Davy Andrews
It's not too late for him to do some pushups and eat some chicken.
Rollie's Mustache
I can't articulate why, but Brian Anderson is easily a top 5 pbp announcer imo. He's just… really good? (Benetti, Davis, Cohen, Shulman up there too)
bluestraggler edited
Joe Davis? I find him utterly forgettable. But all those other guys are great. Shulman and Benetti are elite.
Jeremy Fox
It's so weird that there's a big puff of dirt every time a ball lands in the outfield.
Phil edited
I think it's little pieces of rubber, or something like that.
Rollie's Mustache
Used to be rubber, the new turf is a mix of coconut husk and sand apparently.
Davy Andrews
Yup. Having played a lot of soccer on turf like that, I can tell you that those little pieces of rubber get in your shoes and stick to your socks forever.
Sean Dolinar
Oh, artificial turf!
Bryan Baldwin
I thought the field was just perpetually wet!
asf123
That’s only when Brandon Marsh is playing.
Nick Smith
The Manual is a pretty good nickname. No Second Halpin, though.
lzfreak
It's a good nickname except that it implies he's not Automatic
Jeremy Fox
Why was Espino warming up without his hat?
Davy Andrews
I see this surprisingly often. I wonder if it's because somebody's busy putting the PitchCom in their hat.
lzfreak
This reminds me of when I was in high school and I used to help coach my little cousin's little league team and one of his teammates hated wearing his hat. He'd be standing in the outfield mid game and just take it off, then would demand that we show him where in the rule book it said that he had to wear a hat when we'd ask him to put it back on. And like… we definitely didn't have a rule book handy nor knew where the hat clause is so it was hard to argue with this 11 year old.
Rollie's Mustache
I think that's exactly it. But the number of times a reliever comes into the game and motions to the ump before throwing a pitch that he can't hear anything leads me to believe they are not very skilled at doing this.
Davy Andrews
Wow, Cleveland's defensive positioning cards are enormous. They're the size of bingo cards.
millvillemeltdown
printing my defensive positioning cards in dyslexia fonts (legitimately not terrible idea)
Jeremy Fox
All the ads for Google Cloud "insights" are such overfitted small sample nonsense that if I were in charge of buying web services for some big company I'd go with AWS instead.
Nick Smith
Agreed! Did we learn nothing from Fire Joe Morgan?
asf123
Anyone want to go in with me on FireJohnSmoltz.com? IP reboots are all the rage these days…
Jeremy Fox
Smoltz has improved, I think. I used to find him unlistenable, and now I think he's ok. Curious what others think.
asf123
The biggest thing for me is how he constantly positions his aesthetic preferences (contact, small ball, yada yada) as facts of good strategy.
Nick Smith
He's a good analyst. But if he gets going, his back-in-my-day nonsense is a killer.
Rollie's Mustache
If Smoltz isn't hating on something about the modern game by the 2nd inning I start to worry that he's been replaced with AI.
asf123 edited
Also that he will without fail start talking about “slow heartbeat” by the third inning.
Jeremy Fox
Jose Ramirez is great, but his green glove is terrible. Your glove should either be brown, black, or your team's color.
Jeremy Fox
Wait, the Rays have a tank of rays at their ballpark? How did I not know that?
bosoxforlife
I am dumbfounded that you didn't know that. The team was the Devil Rays for years and there have been rays in the tank since the franchise was first organized.
lzfreak
Yeah it's the one fun thing the Trop is known for
asf123
What causes a comment to get hung up in review?
Sean Dolinar
Weird website urls.
Yer Main Guy
Sean Dolinar
That url is available for purchase.
Jeremy Fox
Juuust a bit outside.
bosoxforlife
It seems like a decade ago when Daniel Espino was the #1 pitching prospect in the game. Then his arm fell off and the doctors had a tough time reattaching it.
Matthew Tobin
I know this is the whole “Ship of Theseus” problem, Bur How many surgeries before we admit a player is just fundamentally different? Where is the line? We surely can or will just invent a better ligament. Wouldn’t that be a huge issue?
Rollie's Mustache
Can't wait for a fight over PEL clauses (performance enhancing ligaments) when the CBA is up in 2032.
lzfreak
I didn't know Rasmussen was allowed to give up a run
bosoxforlife
Speaking of players whose career has been disrupted more than once by injury, Chase deLauter certainly fits that template.
Nick Smith
Wait. Is it possible for a park to be difficult to go opposite field regardless of which side of the plate you hit?
millvillemeltdown
i think it is harder to go oppo *in general* because the spin doesn't help you as much. don't know if there's an "uphill both ways" way to do it though…
Sean Dolinar
Got that most likable and least likable poll. You'll probably have to refresh this page / reload this page for it to work.
Phil
Did you invent that ranking thing just for this poll? We will have to think about other things you can do with it.
Rollie's Mustache
That worked. When I first saw it with the checkboxes I thought it was a trick question.
millvillemeltdown
i'm still shocked that someone thinks the miz gives bush league vibes… he's literally a small, 6'6 child chewing a wad of gum the size of my fist and throwing harder than anyone in history. he rips packs of pokemon on road trips.
Sean Dolinar
Yeah, it was a good suggestion, so I made it tonight. It can do ranked choice voting, too, and that's like rounds eliminating the lowest vote getting. This is just an MVP-style voting with 4,3,2,1 points given out.
Sean Dolinar
But yes, I want to have it used for a lot more things!
Sean Dolinar
I'm going to reuse that poll through out the week.
Jeremy Fox
It would be insane for any pitcher to drop that bunt on purpose to try to get two.
Davy Andrews
Really proud of Ramírez for sniffing the baseball just now. I think he read my article.
asf123
I, for one, am a fan of Ramirez’s glove. It’s Christmasy!
Jeremy Fox
We need a poll on whether Ramirez's green glove is good or bad.
Matthew Tobin
Bye bye Walls
Phil
Everly Brothers deep cut.
bosoxforlife
I am such a big fan of Ramirez that he could play with a cesta and I wouldn't complain.
lzfreak
I think it's bad but it's Jose Ramirez so he's earned the right to have a mismatched glove
Nick Smith
Funky glove colors are an inalienable right.
Jeremy Fox
Did Bazzana forget how many outs there were for a moment? Or did he think he had time to get the third out at second and then think better of it?
bosoxforlife
Thought he could beat the runner.
asf123
I like Abner Uribe’s electric blue model too.
Sonny L
I know I’m asking this on the every stat is available site but is Carson Williams that much worse than Walls right now? Rays seem to think he’s not ready to go C Montgomery for them w a 30 HR/220k season.
Jeremy Fox
Blue is a Brewers color tho.
asf123
Not that blue!
millvillemeltdown
does jram get a pink glove now :) i hope he does :)
bosoxforlife
We have an entirely new ballgame!!
Rollie's Mustache
Ah yes. Noted slugger Patrick Bailey.
Rollie's Mustache
Huh. Just checked and surprised he had 10 this year in just 345 PA. That's one more than Vlad Jr!
bosoxforlife
Sorry Blue Jays fans
Benny The Jet
Wow
millvillemeltdown
clutch is a skill, this is known
Jeremy Fox
I don't see what's so hard about hitting Rasmussen if Patrick Bailey can do it.
asf123
Patrick Bailey, AL Kiké Hernandez.
Jeremy Fox
This is why the Guardians traded for Bailey.
millvillemeltdown
has bailey even seen a postseason before
lzfreak
Maybe on tv
Nick Smith edited
"Do you know the postseason? " "….I know of it."
Davy Andrews
More Scott Pilgrim references.
millvillemeltdown
every time i have a hunk of a really good bread in my hand, i take a big bite and scream around it "BREAD MAKES YOU FAT!?!"
millvillemeltdown
speaking of, my roommates just made some incredible bread. i'm over the moon with the crumb texture.
GammaDraconis
Thought Rays were going to run away with this thing the way they handled Griffin in the first, but he settled in nicely. Aces not doing their usual seems to be a theme in this round. Is it possible that hitters on top teams are catching up to the pitchers?
Rollie's Mustache
I'm always suspicious of tipping with starts like Yamamoto's today where he got just 4 whiffs.
Sonny L
LA had Miz’s grips whenever they were on 2nd yesterday. Helped foul off pitches but he was still Miz :shrug:
Jeremy Fox
We need an article on the most shocking long home runs/hard hit balls of the season. Bailey's HR just now, Bryson Stott's 464 foot jack earlier this year…
millvillemeltdown
i don't know how i'd optimize it but i want to see, like, minimum bat speed, maximum tank, optimally squared up and backspun and pulled
jcathtraverse
@Sean if you're implementing changes based on this chat, maybe a show results button for polls? Could cut down on the votes in the who will win polls after there's already been scoring.
Sean Dolinar
I could do that. Though I don't think responding later is necessarily bad…like it's tied right now.
drplantwrench
oh did i miss the most and least likable team vote
Sean Dolinar
Yes and no. I shipped that about 20 minutes ago, but you can still respond!
drplantwrench
it says "This question is unavailable" fwiw
GammaDraconis
You might need to reload the page.
drplantwrench
Ope, that worked thanks!
bosoxforlife
I watched Cam Booser pitch for Worcester a couple of years ago as a 32 year old never-will-be and here he is in a high leverage situation in the ALCS at 34. "Don't give up, don't ever give up".
lzfreak
It's weird seeing a Rays series where the other team has more Lowes
asf123
Not sure that slide got him there faster.
drplantwrench
slide was for style not for speed
millvillemeltdown
aura farming, slidemaxxing, dirtmogging, etc.
ncphl
Maybe he expected a bad throw and a swipe tag?
lzfreak
Is there a way for new polls to trigger a message? When you add polls mid chat, it can be hard to notice right away unless someone points it out
millvillemeltdown
i think sean has been manually doing that, idk if it necessarily wants to be automated? could be wrong, i have been somewhat tuned out/foggy
Sean Dolinar
I've thought of making them louder. Like I can have it expand on its own or have NEW! tag in bright red on it.
Sean Dolinar
And yeah, I did send a message about the ranked likability poll.
millvillemeltdown
i am strongly considering logging off, walking into the forest, and calling it a night
drplantwrench
my top two likable are the bottom 2 vote getters …….
asf123
You know what? Ramirez should use a green bat too. That would be awesome.
Rollie's Mustache
Players Weekend allowing hitters to use funky looking bats is delightful . Ernie Clement's pencil bat is 80 grade.
millvillemeltdown
not because the baseball has been bad but i should probably take care of myself and my deliverables
millvillemeltdown
good night all, the forest beckons
keenej
Question for the Fangraphs writers who are way smarter than me: would it be fair to say there's a little Vlady Guerrero, Sr. in Jose Ramirez? It's been on my mind since Jose hit that homer not even a foot off the ground
drplantwrench
as a huge vladdy sr fan, i feel like theres some similarities, but i always thought vladdy's approach was a little wild whereas JRam is under control
drplantwrench
but maybe i was too young and its just nostalgia
Rollie's Mustache
You could run a Baseball Savant query, filter for chase/waste pitches on contact and xwoba (or stat of choice) to maybe get a rough idea of guys like Vlad Sr?
lzfreak
Nice outcome for the infield positioning
Benny The Jet
Wow I did not realize the 2B was standing there off the bat
Jeremy Fox
Contact play on now?
bosoxforlife
Man on 3rd – one out, you go on anything on the ground.
lzfreak
These pitching decisions are interesting. Cash not going with his A relief team yet
danodea
It's very funny that MLB is running a pro-salary cap ad talking about how small market teams can’t compete during the Rays vs Guards ALCS
SadaharuWhoa
They have zero feel
drplantwrench
THE GUARDIANS ARE UNSTOPPABLE
bosoxforlife
0-2 and he gets a pitch in the zone? Not good.
Jeremy Fox
It'd be hilarious if Bailey went yard again here.
Jeremy Fox
Successful catcher ABS challenge after a backpick!
Snerd
I don’t understand that defensive playcall on that Lowe at bat
Rollie's Mustache
Like playing in or the way they shifted? I thought it was standard for the situation.
Snerd
Shift was standard for sure but both MI’ers were way in on the grass. If they’re playing normal thats a soft lineout to SS
Rollie's Mustache
Gotcha. Seymour isn't a ground ball pitcher either so I get your point. It's the Rays so I'm assuming the percentages still say that's the best alignment given all variables.
Snerd
Yea it just felt like peak getting too cute with it
Snerd
Playing the MI way in on nothing but pitches above the zone??
Phil
Many events in this game.
danodea
Cedriiiiiic
Rollie's Mustache
If Mesa were to go long and tie the game here his bat flip might hit a roof ring.
Rollie's Mustache
Alas.
bosoxforlife
Cedric Mullins against a tough lefty is just the match-up the Guardians would want so………boom. Nobody ever said it better than the late John Sterling.
Keaton Arneson
Who wants to be the millionaire, ask the audience was the true #1 lifeline… The poll tonight says 91% think the Rays will win. I thought wisdom of the crowd was king?
lzfreak
There's a decent chance we get a central division team to the World Series for the first time since 2016
bosoxforlife
To paraphrase a great philosopher "It ain't over till it's over".
Phil
Woah.
danodea
Oh nooooo
lzfreak
Oh this is bad
ooglyman
oh no
Jeremy Fox
oh no
Nick Smith
Ouch.
Benny The Jet edited
Edit: Oh no
Benny The Jet
Oh no
bosoxforlife
Shoulder to the ribs and pretty solid contact.
Bryan Baldwin
Wow what an epic miscommunication
Nick Smith
Whew!
lzfreak
Honestly feels like that could've ended way worse
bosoxforlife
Caminero could still be compromised. He has to be hurting.
dalewilson13
I don't understand the Rays decisions this game: Aranda bunting in the first, Ras going back out for the 7th, where is Kevin Kelly (one of the best Rays relievers all year), using a rusty Tyler Walls and Cole Sulser in a tight game.
asf123
Anyone else think this new “oooh, we’ve got two strikes on the batter” sirens and whistles etc. thing has gotten a little out of hand?
Bryan Baldwin
Generally yes but it is the post
Bryan Baldwin
Welp.
Phil edited
Challenge here but where was he going? [Edit: never mind.]
danodea
I was rooting for the White Sox and now I'm rooting for the Rays, but Jose Ramirez getting hot at the right time is pretty cool to watch
Snerd
I think this is getting overturned
Nick Smith
A good Ramirez is so much fun!
bosoxforlife
His loyalty to Cleveland when he could have left for a lot more money has endeared him to me.
bosoxforlife
If he left the bag he was pushed off?
Bryan Baldwin
The Guardians can win the World Series, they still won’t be the best team in baseball.
Phil
To me, the Dodgers' creakiness, particularly Ohtani's, show what a contingent definition that is. The Dodgers are the best team in general, but they don't seem like the best team right now.
Bryan Baldwin
Good point
GammaDraconis
Baseball is so wonderfully unpredictable!
Bryan Baldwin
I suppose…or it’s gonna give me a heart attack.
Bryan Baldwin
These pitches in the dirt are really disappointing.
Nick Smith
I'm lightly rooting for the Rays, but still disappointed he didn't get that triple.
lzfreak
Ramirez seems to be enjoying himself
soddingjunkmail
I did not expect this.
SadaharuWhoa
14 hits. That feels like a lot of hits! #analytics
soddingjunkmail
And I really don’t get Cade Smith here. Why give the Rays extra looks at him, plus put inning on his arm?
Phil
You'd have to have him warming anyway to back up whoever else you brought in.
asf123
Yeah, Vogt’s refusal to adapt to changes in leverage is a surprising postseason storyline.
lzfreak
Eventually this guy is gonna get tired from pitching so much
Phil
Good night, folks!
lzfreak
Or not
Nick Smith
G'night!
asf123
Game’s over, guys. You don’t have to talk into your gloves now.
SadaharuWhoa
It's just a defense against Jomboy
soddingjunkmail
I guess he was already up before the insurance runs, but still
SadaharuWhoa
I like baseball.
Sean Dolinar
Great chat everyone! See everyone tomorrow!
I build things here.