Mets Snag Luis Robert Jr. From White Sox

Steven Bisig-Imagn Images

With most of the top free agents having found new homes – 12 of our top 15 have signed – the baseball transaction news figured to be light this week. Maybe the Yankees and Cody Bellinger would keep making lovey-dovey eyes at each other across the negotiating table to give us some headlines, but that felt like the only game in town for at least a few days. But just because no one is left to sign doesn’t mean nothing can happen. Out in Queens, the Mets weren’t content to sit pat after signing Bo Bichette. They continued their offseason splurge by acquiring Luis Robert Jr. from the White Sox in exchange for Luisangel Acuña and pitching prospect Truman Pauley, as ESPN’s Jeff Passan first reported.

I’ve grappled with evaluating Robert innumerable times over the past few years. For a while, he was a yearly feature in our Trade Value series, an electric talent in his early 20s. Then he became an interesting litmus test when talking to team evaluators, as his production dipped but his prodigious tools remained as loud as ever. Finally, as his contract hit the expensive team option phase, I considered him for a list of top free agents, as I have to predict what option decisions teams will make. At every turn, I came away equally impressed and frustrated by Robert’s ludicrous ceiling and subbasement-level floor.

You want a tooled-up center fielder? Robert is your guy. If you click on the “Prospects Report” tab on his player page, you’ll see this short blurb by Eric Longenhagen: “Graduation TLDR: The Vitruvian Outfield Prospect in all facets save for his approach, Robert graduated from prospectdom as one of baseball’s most exciting players.” That Vitruvian Outfield Prospect phrase has stuck with me.

If you made an outfielder in a lab, he’d look a lot like this. Power? Robert has 90th-percentile bat speed and clobbered 38 home runs in his last full season of playing time. He gets the ball in the air, too, all the better to maximize his best contact. Speed? You guessed it, 90th-percentile sprint speed. He’s also among the best defensive outfielders in the game when he’s healthy. He even has a strong throwing arm, though it’s inaccurate at times. If you’re looking for a Gold Glove defender who can hit 40 homers at the hardest outfield spot and swipe 30 bags, he’s one of maybe three players in the entire majors who fits the bill.

I just described an MVP candidate to you. Indeed, he finished 12th in MVP voting in his incandescent 2023 season, even while the White Sox went 61-101. But that’s his aforementioned ceiling – 4.9 WAR in 145 games on the back of a 129 wRC+. His floor? Across his next 210 games and two seasons, he’s produced 1.9 WAR and an 84 wRC+. Forget an MVP candidate; that’s a fourth outfielder or a defensive specialist.

Therein lies the rub with Robert. There’s only one clear hole in his offensive game. The problem is that it’s the most important thing there is: plate discipline. Robert has rarely seen a pitch he doesn’t like. In 2025, he chased more often than 80% of major leaguers. That was the best mark of his career. His enormous, looping swing also brings a ton of swing-and-miss. He whiffed more often than 91% of major leaguers, roughly in line with his career rate. Robert wants to put the ball in the stands, but it ends up in the catcher’s mitt quite a lot when he’s not right.

You Aren't a FanGraphs Member
It looks like you aren't yet a FanGraphs Member (or aren't logged in). We aren't mad, just disappointed.
We get it. You want to read this article. But before we let you get back to it, we'd like to point out a few of the good reasons why you should become a Member.
1. Ad Free viewing! We won't bug you with this ad, or any other.
2. Unlimited articles! Non-Members only get to read 10 free articles a month. Members never get cut off.
3. Dark mode and Classic mode!
4. Custom player page dashboards! Choose the player cards you want, in the order you want them.
5. One-click data exports! Export our projections and leaderboards for your personal projects.
6. Remove the photos on the home page! (Honestly, this doesn't sound so great to us, but some people wanted it, and we like to give our Members what they want.)
7. Even more Steamer projections! We have handedness, percentile, and context neutral projections available for Members only.
8. Get FanGraphs Walk-Off, a customized year end review! Find out exactly how you used FanGraphs this year, and how that compares to other Members. Don't be a victim of FOMO.
9. A weekly mailbag column, exclusively for Members.
10. Help support FanGraphs and our entire staff! Our Members provide us with critical resources to improve the site and deliver new features!
We hope you'll consider a Membership today, for yourself or as a gift! And we realize this has been an awfully long sales pitch, so we've also removed all the other ads in this article. We didn't want to overdo it.

Fine, fine, it ends up in the catcher’s mitt a lot even when he is right. But the trade-off can work – that transcendent 2023 season came with a 29% strikeout rate and a mere 5% walk rate. And there’s room for optimism on that front, too. Pitchers quite reasonably have no interest in coming near the strike zone when Robert is at the plate. Merely by reducing his chase rate from obscene to bad, he posted a career-high 9.3% walk rate in 2025. We might be projecting him as a roughly average bat, but it’s one of those cases where a bunch of 30s and a bunch of 70s average out to 50. It’s not hard to imagine Robert returning to elite form, and likewise not that hard to imagine him continuing his descent into poor hitting.

If there’s one thing the Mets need to fix, it’s that Robert’s best contact hasn’t been elevated of late. He still hits the ball plenty hard; in fact, he’s posted better average exit velocities than his superlative ‘23 campaign in each of the last two years. But that’s not translating to homers like it did in the past. In a picture, here’s why:

This little tool I’ve been working on isn’t ready for primetime yet, but I think it’s a great way of explaining what’s happening here. The x-axis is the percentage of batted balls at a given launch angle that are squared up – hit right on the nose, at 80% or more of their theoretical maximum speed given how fast the bat and the ball are traveling. The size of the circles represents how often the hitter hits a ball at that particular launch angle. Like his fellow powerful center fielder Julio Rodríguez, Robert squares the ball up somewhere between 60% and 80% of the time when he’s not hitting it straight into the ground or straight into the air. But he hits a ton of balls at unthreatening angles, from -5 to 15 degrees, and he’s not even squaring those up all that well. His purest contact is in a great home run band, 30 to 35 degrees, but he very rarely reaches those heights. In fact, he squares up fly balls less frequently than Rodríguez does despite hitting them more often. In other words, his swing isn’t doing the thing you’d want it to do — hit the ball hard in the air — even though he often hits the ball hard, and also often hits the ball in the air. It’s mismatched.

Can the Mets turn Robert’s offensive game around? Much as I like to stay away from this assessment, I think a lot of it depends on Robert’s mindset. It’s not hard to imagine getting into the occasional bad habit on the woeful White Sox, particularly with trade rumors swirling around you nonstop. A swing-first approach makes bad habits sting more; when you swing a lot, you’re engaging the pitcher on their terms instead of yours, which means that if you have a weakness, they can go after it. Combine that with a string of injuries, and you get the last two years of Robert.

It’s equally possible that he just needs a fresh start, a new voice as a hitting coach, different teammates to bounce ideas off of in the dugout. Or, maybe it’s not a mindset or approach thing; maybe he just can’t adjust, try as he might. That happens, too. Sometimes guys hit a peak and then decline away from it through no fault of their own. Baseball’s tough. The other guy also lives in a big house. It’s not a failing of character to have two down seasons. But it’s inarguably the case that something needed to change with Robert, and this trade certainly qualifies as something.

At a $22 million salary, that’s a bit of a gamble for the Mets. But the high-end outcomes Robert offers are more or less inaccessible to add in trade, or even in free agency most years. He even has a team option for 2027 ($20 million, but $2 million of that is a buyout that I’ve counted in 2026 salary), so if he bounces back to a facsimile of his 2023 form, it isn’t out of the question that he could stick around for a second campaign, a contract extension, or both. He fits New York’s roster so well that even a so-so season would be acceptable. The Mets have no other center fielders who are anywhere near Robert’s caliber, and his fielding prowess should help compensate some for the expected defensive problems from their corner outfielders. Sure, the money might be more than you’d expect to pay someone with Robert’s recent performance, but if you ignore that, he’s a great match for the Mets. Steve Cohen is a very good owner to have if you’re looking to ignore someone’s salary.

That salary helps explain Chicago’s return in this deal. Acuña is best known for having a famous brother, and second-best known for being swapped for Max Scherzer in the great Mets pitcher teardown of 2023. He reached the majors in 2024 and then caught on as a utility infielder in ‘25, racking up nearly 200 plate appearances in 95 games. Can he hit? Eh, not really: He’s been a below-average hitter in the minors each of the last two years, and of course a below-average hitter in the majors as well, with a career 83 wRC+.

He does offer blazing speed and defensive versatility, which makes his floor pleasingly high. At 5-foot-8 and with bottom-tier bat speed, he’s never going to post gaudy power numbers, and he’s too aggressive at the plate to be an on-base machine, but he puts the ball in play, adds value on the bases, and can play a ton of positions at least passingly well. He even made a cameo in center field last year, and the Sox will probably give him plenty of run out there to see how he takes to it. Lots of good teams have players like Acuña; most of those clubs do not give up much of note to acquire them. Given that he’s only 23 and still has less than a year of service time to his name, the White Sox will have a long time to see if he can develop into something more, but for all the name recognition, his actual ability is not all that intriguing.

Truman Pauley isn’t exactly your average headliner, either. A 12th-round pick in the 2025 draft, he’s thrown only 4 1/3 innings in professional baseball. Here’s Eric Longenhagen on the second-most-notable Harvard prospect traded in the past week:

Pauley was a draft-eligible sophomore at Harvard who added two ticks to his fastball (sitting 93 now) in 2025 but struggled with walks in his first year as a starter. His stuff has interesting characteristics; his fastball averages 19 inches of induced vertical break, and his slider spins at nearly 2,800 rpm. Pauley added a cutter after the draft and committed to its use. He threw it more than any of his other offerings and had strike-throwing success with it in a small post-draft sample. That pitch has tight, late movement in the 88-92 mph range while Pauley’s slider is more 82-85 mph. It looked like he was experimenting with a splitter late, too. Though Pauley lacks any kind of starter-quality strike-throwing track record, his repertoire improved enough after the draft to justify development as a starter in his first full pro season and beyond. He’ll enter the White Sox list as a 35+ FV prospect, more an “arrow up” flier who has improved quite a bit in the last 12 months.

It’s pretty easy to understand what’s going on here on the White Sox side. Robert’s contract is at least arguably underwater. That’s why I considered him for this year’s free agent list; I wasn’t confident that the White Sox would be willing to pay him north of $20 million, about a quarter of their entire payroll, with absolutely no hope of competing and not much chance of a big trade return. They did pick up his option, but I stand by my evaluation: This deal implies that Robert’s on-field value was not meaningfully more exciting to teams than his salary was onerous.

What’s less clear is how we got here. Robert would have been a prize acquisition at multiple points in the past. The Sox have been open to trading him, and he’s reportedly been on the trade block ahead of a few deadlines and during a few hot stove seasons. But they kept holding out for a premium return, a “this team is desperate and needs Luis” return, as is their prerogative. As his production started to decline, it’s understandable that the Chicago brass was slow to lower its asking price. After all, look at that 2023 season! But while the Sox held out for 110% of X, where X was Robert’s current perceived value, X declined rapidly.

This is an easy concept to understand intuitively. I guarantee that you’ve done something similar in your life before. As a former markets guy, it feels to me like hanging on to a stock too long even as it keeps going down. When it’s at 80, you want 85 for it. When it’s at 60, you want 65. Pretty soon, it’s at 20 and you’re wondering if someone will pay you 18. Some of the rumored returns for Robert would dwarf what the Sox ultimately got for him, but they were playing a game of chicken with their potential trade suitors, and they lost.

That’s a bummer, but look at it this way: 18 is more than zero. The bad decisions of the past don’t affect the optimal strategy in the present. The Sox had to trade Robert, and they weren’t going to get much for him. They did that! Good work. Sure, a utilityman and a lottery ticket pitching prospect isn’t exactly a bounty, but it was that or nothing. I also don’t put a lot of credence into the idea of the Sox paying down Robert’s salary to get a bigger return; he’d still be a rental, and teams just don’t pay much for rental bats these days.

Mets fans will probably look at this trade in the context of their team’s not signing Kyle Tucker. White Sox fans will probably look at this trade in the context of their team’s not trading Robert in the past. Neither fan base is wrong, exactly. But neither is living in the present, either. Nobody’s perfect, and every front office has decisions and past turning points that it regrets. But where we’re standing now, this trade makes a ton of sense for both sides.





Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.

104 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
lavarnway
5 months ago

Robert and Acuna have virtually an identical wRC+ the past two seasons: 84 and 83.

David Klein
5 months ago
Reply to  lavarnway

Acuna had a week of at bats in 2024 where he killed it come on dude!

Last edited 5 months ago by David Klein
sandwiches4everMember since 2019
5 months ago
Reply to  lavarnway

Right, but the only way Acuna would ever put a 129 wRC+ would be if you let his brother take some of his at-bats.

lavarnway
5 months ago

Unfortunately his brother isn’t on the field enough to take his own at bats most nights lol

carterMember since 2020
5 months ago

Peep his wRC+ two days ago in Venezuela:)

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
5 months ago
Reply to  lavarnway

One man’s ceiling is another man’s floor, at least if they live in the same apartment building.

SyndergaardengnomesMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  lavarnway

Acuna is out of options, and being generous, was maybe like 8th on the Mets 2B/SS/3B depth chart.

beanbongMember
5 months ago
Reply to  lavarnway

Tyrone Taylor in 2024-2025: .235/.289/.361; .302 xwOBA; 84 wRC+; 8 FRV in 1,056 CF innings; 1.8 WAR

Luis Robert Jr. in 2024-2025: .223/.288/.372; .302 xwOBA;
84 wRC+; 7 FRV in 1,693 CF innings; 1.8 WAR

Last edited 5 months ago by beanbong
gblasius
5 months ago
Reply to  beanbong

I’ll take Robert’s upside and celebtrate Tyrone Taylor as our (hopefully!) fourth outfielder.

mr.met89Member since 2024
5 months ago
Reply to  beanbong

true, but very different ceiling obviously

David Klein
5 months ago

Yes, yes I know Robert is a risk as he’s very injury prone but Really like this trade if Robert Jr. is 70% of the player he was in 2023 this is a steal. Acuna hasn’t hit in the majors or minors since being acquired(other than a week in September of 2024), and I don’t think he ever will hit much. Robert is only the tender age of 28 I can see him being an asset here. I suspect they sign Hays to either platoon in LF or start the season in LF if Benge isn’t really to start the season on the roster.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
5 months ago

He fits New York’s roster so well that even a so-so season would be acceptable. The Mets have no other center fielders who are anywhere near Robert’s caliber, and his fielding prowess should help compensate some for the expected defensive problems from their corner outfielders.

The logic here confuses me a bit, in as much as (a) the Mets already have Tyrone Taylor, who is projected for a wRC+ that’s just about exactly what Robert hit last year, and (b) that group of “corner outfielders” now includes Taylor as the presumptive starting LF. I do agree, though, that Robert fits the Mets roster — as an upgrade over not having three major-league outfielders.

maxcutler3Member since 2025
5 months ago

Taylor becomes the 4th OF, with some combination of Brett Baty and prospect Carson Benge in LF. Taylor’s upside is nowhere near Robert – for Taylor to be at a 90 wRC+ would be a pleasant surprise, while Robert being there would be disappointing, regardless of last year’s result.

David Klein
5 months ago
Reply to  maxcutler3

Yeah I don’t get how people don’t get that Robert is 28 and has huge upside.

SenorGato
5 months ago
Reply to  David Klein

Uuuuuh have you seen the salary? Upside must include payroll efficiency and youth, 28 is nigh ancient in today’s environment, to really be worth the squeeze

hebrewMember since 2016
5 months ago
Reply to  SenorGato

“payroll efficiency” is irrelevant when there’s no salary cap and your owner is Uncle Steve

SaltyMember since 2017
5 months ago
Reply to  David Klein

There’s also a chance that he may up his production coming to a better team with higher expectations. It has to weigh mentally to continue to play for a non-competitive team year after year.

basically baseballMember since 2024
5 months ago
Reply to  David Klein

He had huge upside. He has demonstrated zero upside the last two years.

senor_mike
5 months ago

There was a little upside last year, but you do have to squint some.

His xwOBA was 322 last year, vs a 289 actual. This is a bit unusual for him bc his xwOBA + wOBA have been in lock-step every year of his career, except last. Hopefully it’s a sign that he did actually start to set things in a good mechanical direction (which seems to be the root problem, given that his bat speed is still elite), but was genuinely unlucky in the results department.

I’m not going to pretend that to be the likely case, but it is at least interesting to me (a biased Met fan).

In any event, the core elite skills are all there. Hopefully he can put together a healthy season and begin to center his approach issues. What I do believe likely, being around different voices and energy should only help things for him.

Last edited 5 months ago by senor_mike
Roger McDowell Hot Foot
5 months ago
Reply to  maxcutler3

Taylor becomes the 4th OF, with some combination of Brett Baty and prospect Carson Benge in LF.

Doubtful. Neither Benge nor Baty is, at the moment, a starter as a major-league outfielder. Maybe a bunch of guys rotate through LF but barring further moves, I would bet real money that Taylor has more games played in LF than anyone else in April/May.

Taylor’s upside is nowhere near Robert

I agree! Also, that’s not what I was talking about.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
5 months ago

I think we’ll know a lot more about who the Mets LF is as spring training unfolds. It would seem like Benge with a splash of Baty and a sprinkle of Taylor is most likely outcome, but injuries/terrible/amazing performance happens sometimes.

David Klein
5 months ago

Stearns said Benge will be given every chance to make the team and I bet he makes it.

BranchRickey11937Member since 2016
5 months ago

I’d be somewhat surprised if they don’t sign a platoon outfielder. Benge is a nice prospect and I hope he has success this year, but a team with championship pretensions can’t start the season with a rookie with only 250 PAs in the higher minors as their left fielder. And if you’re going to start Taylor in LF, what was the point of getting Robert to begin with? They might as well just have signed Hays (which they still might).

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
5 months ago

if you’re going to start Taylor in LF, what was the point of getting Robert

Well, it has to be nice on the “run prevention” side to put two guys with that much range alongside Soto. They could shift both of them five steps to the right. Or even funnier, stand Soto in center and have both corner guys pinch in and play everything they can get to.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
5 months ago

 but a team with championship pretensions can’t start the season with a rookie with only 250 PAs in the higher minors as their left fielder

I didn’t realize a team was penalized for having an less experienced player on their roster.

Wait, what?

If Benge is your best LF, it’s stupid not to play him because “rookie with only 250 PAs”. So I fully encourage the Mets to do this.

maxcutler3Member since 2025
5 months ago

I would take that bet – Taylor isn’t an everyday player, and Stearns knows it. He was forced into being one last year, but it would be surprising (to me) if he leads the team in LF innings/games even after the first few weeks of the season, barring injury. Robert’s elite defense should alleviate some Baty defensive concerns & make life easier for the young Benge.

senor_mike
5 months ago

Benge looks more ready than his AAA statline might suggest.

I highly recommend you look at his Statcast numbers from AAA last year, they align with those at a top 20% MLB hitter, with very respectable 8.7 BB% and 18.4 K%.

His 188 BABIP is a different story.

maxcutler3Member since 2025
5 months ago

Love it for the Mets. Acuna actively made the roster worse. Robert at his floor (which he surely will be above) is elite CF defense, and the upside is worth a swing, particularly as he’s surrounded with high-floor bats. Mets D up the middle is now excellent.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  maxcutler3

I mentioned something in another comment about how there’s so much recency bias that teams were probably reluctant to trade anything for him with his 84 wRC+ for two consecutive years.

But I actually thought that his performance last year was pretty encouraging from a plate discipline perspective. He swung less outside of the zone, more in the zone, and had a higher contact rate. He got killed by a low BABIP but with how hard he hits the ball and his speed I think that’s going to turn around at some point.

Sure, he’ll probably be hurt for a third of the year on average, but I think this will work out well for them overall.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
5 months ago

In other top free agent news, what the heck is going on with Framber Valdez? The silence is deafening.

senor_mike
5 months ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

I’m really starting to think that the incident last season where he threw at his catcher is scaring a lot of teams away.

Whatever the case, it stands to reason that some team is going to get him on a good deal when the dust settles.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
5 months ago
Reply to  senor_mike

Maybe thats it. I feel like we could come up with plenty of examples of crazier stuff than that, though. Chris Sale cutting up his uniform comes to mind.

katmanisaliveMember since 2024
5 months ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

I would say the Sale thing is meaningfully different for two reasons. The first being that Sale’s theoretical ceiling was best pitcher in the world and Valdez’s is not.

The other being that while the jersey thing is nuts, it at least follows a reasonable through line. The jerseys sucked (never saw any argument otherwise), Sale felt uncomfortable pitching in them, team didn’t care, Sale found a way to not pitch in them.

Reasonable behavior? Probably not (though I may just wear the uniform my ace wants to wear). But it wasn’t him lashing out unfairly or potentially hurting a teammate.

Last edited 5 months ago by katmanisalive
sandwiches4everMember since 2019
5 months ago
Reply to  katmanisalive

Teams will put up with a lot of nonsense from a player who is among the best in the world. See Ramirez, Manny.

glinkrodMember since 2021
5 months ago
Reply to  katmanisalive

I don’t recall hearing of any untoward behavior from Valdez other than that one incident last season (though the optics of that one were pretty bad). My guess, as with the other top free agents who recently signed or remain unsigned, is that a) he hasn’t received an offer he’s satisfied with, and b) his team figure that, for now at least, his value is not diminishing while SP scarcity increases.

On a separate note, I mean no disrespect to any FG poster, including its authors, but… if I read the word “meaningfully” on this site one more time this week I will assume the fetal position. (yeah, I recognize the response this invites)

naysa420
5 months ago
Reply to  glinkrod

It’s not so much that it’s additional poor behavior, it’s that he has the mental fortitude of a 6 year old. He’s so easy to rattle, and everything falls apart after. I’m sad he’s leaving Houston, my M’s owned him.

johansantana17Member since 2026
5 months ago
Reply to  senor_mike

Robert Murray said as much during his video piece today

Dmjn53
5 months ago

Really like this deal for the Mets. I’m not sure Robert’s ceiling is much higher than 2 wins anymore, but considering they’re getting him for literally nothing in a player they were going to have to DFA anyway it’s a good zero risk gamble

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
5 months ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

I dunno, this is one of the few times where maybe getting off of an awful team and onto a contender will really make a difference?

Playing for the White Sox the last couple years has surely been demoralizing for an established veteran. Usually I would call an argument like this nonsense, but.

Dmjn53
5 months ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

Maybe! But considering the Mets are essentially getting him for free then there’s only upside here.

From Chicago’s side, Woof. They could have gotten a haul for him two years ago when they were the worst team in baseball, and have let his value decline to the point where’s just a straight salary dump

tunglashrMember since 2016
5 months ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

They arent getting him free. He has a $22M salary, so he needs about 2.5 WAR to show a profit.

Dmjn53
5 months ago
Reply to  tunglashr

You know what I meant, and $/WAR is definitely higher than $8m right now

senor_mike
5 months ago
Reply to  tunglashr

For him as an individual contributor, sure (although I’d argue that the going rate of a given WAR is now north of $10m, but I digress).

The Mets got 0.7 fWAR out of CF last year….he’s going to be an upgrade even at his floor. Yes, he’s expensive, but the upside has cost to it. Beyond that, CF upgrade options are quite limited right now.

Last edited 5 months ago by senor_mike
BranchRickey11937Member since 2016
5 months ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

In fairness to the White Sox, two years ago he was coming off a 5 WAR season and was young enough to be part of their next contender. They didn’t know he would have two miserable, injury-plagued seasons. But yeah, they probably could have gotten more at last year’s trade deadline.

Dmjn53
5 months ago

I would argue the White Sox were (and still are) in such a deep hole that he wasn’t young enough to be on their next contender. There was no way that ship was getting turned around before he was 30.
He’s also the exact profile whose career doesn’t get past 30 anyway given his lack of plate discipline, soft skills, or any part of the game that requires critical thinking over raw athleticism

Yer Main GuyMember since 2024
5 months ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

At the time they just fired the front office and the owner was making noise about getting back to contention quickly. Which was delusional. I feel like he didn’t fully buy into the rebuild until mid 2024 when the house was on fire. Man what a low point. Things are getting better bit by bit.

Dmjn53
5 months ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

Maybe! But considering the Mets are essentially getting him for free then there’s only upside here.

From Chicago’s side, Woof. They could have gotten a haul for him two years ago when they were the worst team in baseball, and have let his value decline to the point where he’s just a straight salary dump

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
5 months ago

It seems like White Sox could have done better if they just ate the contract and traded him to Reds, Royals, Pirates, Rays, Tigers, Marlins, Giants, Astros, Guardians, Diamondbacks…

They didn’t get much more than salary relief, and they could have gotten that just be non-tendering him.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
5 months ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

They waited years to trade him… for this?

DavidMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

White Sox aren’t exactly known to be front office geniuses.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
5 months ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Just a salary dump, nothing more. Even that bad a team can’t be planning on actually giving Acuña significant playing time, I wouldn’t think. But yes, given that this was their return, they should’ve at least held onto him until June.

MoMember since 2024
5 months ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Obviously the White Sox were waiting for Robert to have a stretch where he played well and regained some trade value, but he never did.

Are you really saying that the White Sox should have declined his club option instead of trading him for prospects? Acuna and Pauley probably won’t amount to much, but they are better than getting nothing in return.

Better complaints would have been that:

The White Sox should have held him until this year’s trade deadline hoping that he regained value. This might make sense, but it seems unlikely to me that he would play better than he has in the last couple years. Plus they will lose a half year of his value, and he might get hurt.
The White Sox should have eaten more salary to improve the prospect return, but we don’t even know if this was an option.I know its fun to dunk on the white sox, but this trade seems fine from their perspective.

Last edited 5 months ago by Mo
Yer Main GuyMember since 2024
5 months ago
Reply to  Mo

I’m not mad at their failure to make a trade over the last couple years, as many Sox fans are. They took a risk that was necessary, gambling on a bounce back that didn’t occur. Tough break.

What annoys me is we did this for a salary dump and now have MLB’s lowest payroll. We could have eaten some contract to get better prospects. Jerry can absolutely afford the 20 at this point.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
5 months ago
Reply to  Mo

No I’m saying they should have paid down salary to get better prospects

stkahlaMember since 2019
5 months ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

That assumes the Mets would be willing to send better prospects to save a little money.

johansantana17Member since 2026
5 months ago
Reply to  stkahla

The Mets probably wouldn’t, but another team might.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
5 months ago
Reply to  johansantana17

Who, though? No other contender has (had) as glaring a need in CF as the Mets. You could argue the Phillies, but they intend to give Crawford some runway, so if anything, they’d be looking for an emergency stopgap. Orioles, maybe. I could see saying the D-backs. The Royals, probably, but you’d have to have better prospects to be able to give them up.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

When the news broke I wondered if this was a case of (1) Robert having this little value or (2) whether the White Sox actually like Acuna more than what other people have offered. And I think I have settled on the first one. There is just so no reason to think that anyone wanted to give up prospects of value for Luis Robert after he posted an 84 wRC+ in two consecutive seasons.

I think that he’s better than that, almost by default, and think the Mets did well here. But so many teams are so worried about losing a deal that they don’t want to give up value for a risky player, and there’s so much recency bias in front offices too. I think this was the best they could have done.

slz
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Seems pretty feasible to me that the people who liked Chase Meidroth could also like Liangelo Acuna

I dont think he’s completely drawing dead as a potential MLB player. He does have some surprising pop for his size when he isn’t pounding the ball into the ground. If he can fashion himself into one of those pulled power guys he might even be more than a Meidroth. Easier said than done, of course, especially in the White Sox org

Still, he’s relatively young, just out of options and needs to play somewhere. A 100 loss team is exactly the right spot for him

MikeSMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Getz obviously overplayed his hand, but this is still a light return even now. Nobody needs to trade for Leury Garcia 2.0. Would have been better to get back a flawed lottery ticket of a reliever prospect instead.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
5 months ago
Reply to  MikeS

They did get one of those, too, though.

Jeff in JerseyMember since 2020
5 months ago

I will sound like a ridiculous Mets optimist here: what are the odds Robert Jr has a better WAR than Nimmo or Bellinger? Worth a shot. It’s Cohen’s money and he has plenty of it.

beanbongMember
5 months ago
Reply to  Jeff in Jersey

Nimmo’s breaking down and he might just be a DH going forward, where he doesn’t really have the pop to profile anymore. Very possible Robert Jr. beats Nimmo in 2026 WAR

Better than Bellinger is pretty unlikely; he’s going to wear out the short porch in Yankee Stadium and still looks good in the outfield.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
5 months ago
Reply to  Jeff in Jersey

Nimmo? I’d say maybe 50/50.
Bellinger? I’d say Bellinger 80/20.

JayGray007Member since 2024
5 months ago

i think there’s interesting nuance that couldve been discussed about Robert’s splits. seems like a pretty defining part of his game that he destroys lefties and has good discipline against lefties, vs being pretty avg vs righties in his career (and terrible recently). surprising to not see it mentioned at all!

maybe a dive into what old Robert and new Robert do differently vs righties?

Last edited 5 months ago by JayGray007
JayGray007Member since 2024
5 months ago
Reply to  JayGray007

wrc+ vs RHP, Robert’s career by season:
2020: 92
2021: 133
2022: 98
2023:121
2024:90
2025: 68

wrc+ vs LHP, Robert’s career by season:
2020: 120
2021: 229
2022: 158
2023: 160
2024: 67
2025: 130

what can we say about luis robert?
He almost always destroys lefties
He almost always is at least nearly average vs righties.

his 2024 was bad precisely because he suddenly had that 67 vs lefties. clearly clearly clearly an aberration year.

his 2025 was bad precisely because he had that 68 vs righties. clearly clearly clearly an aberration year.

i just cant help but think the most likely outcome here is that he wrc+s something like 95 vs RHP this year and something like 130 vs LHP this yr on his way to something like a 110 with great defense.

JayGray007Member since 2024
5 months ago
Reply to  JayGray007

i have no reason to think that the thing that caused his bad 2024 is going to continue. this is a dude who mashes lefties and had one random year where he still hit righties and tanked vs lefties.

so that leaves 2025. is this suddenly a dude who wrc+s 70 vs RHP and 130 vs LHP? i mean it could be, but i think the most likely thing is that the RHP numbers nudge back up toward 90 at least a bit!

Robert is popping 3 WAR this yr

JayGray007Member since 2024
5 months ago
Reply to  JayGray007

last post, i promise.

we can look at expected stats vs RHP last yr. his woba vs RHP was .266 vs a xWOBA of .307

if Robert had a woba of .307 vs RHP last year to pair with his elite performance vs lefties, we would be talking about how solid a player Luis Robert is!

Ostensibly RidiculousMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  JayGray007

Also worth noting that Guaranteed Rate Field has been playing as a strong pitchers park most of the year (except July).

And again, Robert’s played his whole career on a dysfunctional organization, recently with guaranteed money and zero talent around him and no chance of winning.

Imagine him hitting after Juan Soto.

sadhulkMember since 2020
5 months ago

Was really hoping Truman Pauley was Graham Pauley’s younger brother. This is a grim trade and it needed some levity of two different younger brothers in a trade.

johansantana17Member since 2026
5 months ago
Reply to  sadhulk

Agreed. I know a guy who is Graham’s cousin and I thought it was unlikely he’d have another relative who plays pro baseball that he didn’t tell me about, but was disappointed anyway.

TwangsMember since 2019
5 months ago

Have the Mets ever considered improving their pitching?

David Klein
5 months ago
Reply to  Twangs

They’re close to acquiring Peralta per Heyman and others.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  Twangs

Apparently they have considered it.

David Klein
5 months ago

The White Sox might be the worst hitting development team in baseball so I can see Troy Snitker and Jeff Albert unlocking something in Robert vs righties.

MikeSMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  David Klein

And I can’t see Acuna suddenly learning to hit.

millvillemeltdownMember since 2026
5 months ago

for some reason, all i could think while i read this article was “you can take the player off the sox, but you can’t take the socks off the player”

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago

At least not without getting kicked in the head

ED44Member since 2017
5 months ago

No way, the Reds weren’t willing to part with one of their nearly countless Acuna-equivalents and take on some salary? Shocked.

OkraMember since 2016
5 months ago

Pitcher’s arms can blowup at any moment, but his this has to go down as the ultimate cautionary tale of a rebuilding team holding a position player too long.

ChiSox could have easily had a return of multiple top 100 guys after the 2023 season. Easy to look back on it now (and i understand why they kept waiting for him to regain trade value once they kept him in 2024), but sure looks bad now. Especially because Robert was never going to be part of the next good Sox team.

And if they eat just ~12M I bet someone would have given a 45FV prospect to get Robert for for 1/10. Their payroll is all the way down to 67M now. Poor White Sox fans.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  Okra

There was something today about how Getz was excited to use the payroll space it freed up to make additions. And I kept thinking “I can’t think of a better value they could get than Luis Robert right now.”

It’s also not line it’s a small market team either. If they’re having money trouble there is literally no one to blame but their own lack of investment in the team.

OkraMember since 2016
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yeah I saw that Getz comment too and it’s just laughable. They obviously have no shot at competing this year so you either spend your money to give fans something a little more entertaining to see or you try to buy prospects (by taking on $ in a Robert trade or signing guys to 1yr deals who you hope to flip at the deadline)

Either way, Getz failed here. Robert is a far more entertaining player than anything he’s about to buy for 1yr/$8 (Rhys Hoskins!! get excited!!!). And taking on some of Robert’s salary was the easiest and most direct way to get a better prospect return.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  Okra

This is one of those cases where no matter how you look at it the White Sox made bad decisions. If you think they were justified in holding Robert, then they traded him too soon now.

Worm BurnerMember since 2020
5 months ago

Mets fans will probably look at this trade in the context of their team’s not signing Kyle Tucker.

Actually, I instead look at the trade more in the context of the team not signing, or at least ceasing to chase, Bellinger.

senor_mike
5 months ago
Reply to  Worm Burner

Yes, this. Bichette was the Tucker distraction anyway.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago

Let’s recap this:
-The White Sox decided not to trade their oft-injured outfielder after his career year because they thought he would still have trade value later and / or they thought they might be good again before his contract was up.
-But predictably he got hurt and stopped playing well, destroying his trade value.
-And the White Sox were bad. We couldn’t have predicted exactly how bad the White Sox were, but it was clear they were not going to be good again for a while.
-The White Sox have been holding on to him, saying that they were going to hold him until he had reestablished his value. Didn’t trade him at any deadline, despite lots of smoke.
-And now they trade him to dump his salary and for a utility guy.

This isn’t the most disastrous non-trade decision a team has ever made but it sure seems like they screwed this up at every single step. They just kept waiting for their luck to turn around, and it never did.

A Salty ScientistMember since 2024
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

If you’ve already pushed most of your chips in on reestablishing trade value, why not wait until this year’s deadline? You’re already getting close to nothing, so why worry about the risk of getting absolutely nothing?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago

My guess is that Reinsdorf didn’t want to top $100M this year and he cost $20M. So Getz made the call to trade him to free up space to make other moves.

But for me personally I would just hold him. What moves could they make now that would be better for the long-term health of the franchise than trading Robert for an actual prospect?

thaaldermanMember since 2024
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The White Sox 100% thought they were going to be contenders again by 2026-2027 before bottoming out out to a degree nobody expected in 2024, but I also think it’s unreasonable to blame them for failing to anticipate that their career 125 wRC+ over 1519 PA CF was suddenly about to post an 84 wRC+ over his next 856 PA.

Yeah, Robert has been frequently injured from day one, but until 2024, he was also always good when healthy (wRC+’s of 99, 155, 111, and 129 from 2020-2023). Personally, I wish they’d continued to hold out until for a better package, but given that they could have cut bait on multiple previous occasions, I’m not quite buying the idea that this is a pure salary dump because the timing doesn’t make any sense even for an organization as inept as the White Sox. Like Miguel Vargas before him, I’d wager that they see something they like in former Top-100(ish) prospect Acuna.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  thaalderman

Yeah none of that would make me feel better if I were a White Sox fan. The Vargas deal was a total disaster for the White Sox and Acuna is not even really a post-prospect anymore.

As for “nobody could have seen him being this bad”—that is true. But that’s not the same as “nobody could have seen that a player who is constantly hurt and just posted a career season is at the absolute peak of their value and it’s all downhill from here.” Anybody who saw how many games he was missing there was a very high chance of all the injuries catching up to him. All those red flags were there after the 2023 season.

I think the White Sox just screwed this one up. There’s no real way to fully defend against it. The best one can do is say “they chose a risky course of action and got burned.”

cashgod27Member since 2024
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I’m not sure how the Vargas deal was terrible, or even bad. Considering how Fedde played in St. Louis, I doubt front offices placed much value in him.

Vargas isn’t great, but he isn’t a bust either, and I don’t see how you can say they reasonably should’ve gotten much more.

Yer Main GuyMember since 2024
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I don’t give any credence to post hoc injury analysis. No, nobody knew this would happen.

And your last line is kinda correct. You don’t pay it safe when you’re at the bottom of the standings. They traded one of two stars in the off-season 2 years back and it was the wrong one. The return was bad and the guy they kept was bad too.

thaaldermanMember since 2024
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Personally, I’m just happy that 1) the Luis Robert trade saga is over, 2) the book is finally closed on the Hahn/LaRussa era, and 3) I won’t have to hear John Schriffen growling on the broadcast ever again.

Idk, the older I get, the less I find myself getting worked up over prospect returns. Acuna is fast as hell, so maybe he’ll fun to watch, at least, and Truman appears to be a pitch data darling and the Sox are typically pretty good at developing pitching, so maybe they’ll turn him into something more than a middle reliever.

It’s not like any of it matters until Ishbia takes over, anyway.

Brett
5 months ago

SAT pointer: Luis Robert Jr. is to Pete Crow-Armstrong as Tim Anderson is to Javier Báez.

Bud SmithMember since 2020
5 months ago

It’s fun to imagine the Mets can fix Robert, but the great Eloy escape didn’t amount to much…

dangledangleMember since 2024
5 months ago

Put his locker next to Soto’s

cashgod27Member since 2024
5 months ago

Whole lot of Monday morning quarterbacks saying “How didn’t the White Sox trade him when he had FOUR YEARS of team control remaining and was coming off a 5 WAR season?”

Tell me when that ever happens. The White Sox grossly overestimated their roster that offseason, but trading a player that productive with that much control is incredibly rare because it’s so difficult to get fair value in return. I don’t think it was reasonable to expect he’d have an 84 wRC+ two years in a row.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  cashgod27

The White Sox did it with Sale and Quintana! And I think that’s why they might have been shy about doing it this time. Two total rebuilds in such a short period of time was more than they could stomach.

jdbolickMember since 2024
5 months ago

I really wanted Robert on the Orioles, as we have no established center fielder. After seeing how little the Mets gave up, I am disappointed that Elias didn’t make that move.

kevo8Member since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  jdbolick

Eh. Robert would make the Orioles better, but if I were Elias, I’d rather use my (presumably finite) payroll space on the top end of the rotation, such as by signing Valdez.

Cowser is never going to be a plus plus defensive CF, but he’s put up OAA/DRS values of 1/-1 in CF each of the past two seasons in ~300-400 innings per year, suggesting he’s perfectly adequate on that side of the ball (especially with how good his LF numbers looked in ’24). All of the projection systems see him as a roughy 100-110 wRC+ guy, with THE BAT and Steamer on the low end of that and ZiPS and OOPSY on the high end. A slightly above average bat and 45-50 grade defender in CF is a solid regular, not a massive hole to plug. It’s not obvious to me that Robert is an upgrade here.

Of course, adding Robert allows you to shift Cowser to a corner and/or platoon him (which would add value given Cowser’s fairly large platoon splits), but the Orioles are already have Ward, Beavers, and O’Neill on hand in the corner OF and Alonso, Mayo, Mountcastle, and Basallo in the mix at 1B/DH. It’s already pretty crowded.

I’ve seen a lot of chatter about the O’s potential need for a CF, and I guess I may just have more faith in Cowser in center than many, but I don’t totally understand it. It seems to me like a recency bias reaction to his underwhelming ’25 season, which I think was partially regression to the mean and partially injury related. I don’t see any reason to doubt the projections on him moving forward.

I get that this Robert deal was a low price paid for a potentially high reward, but if the O’s have ~$25-30M in remaining payroll space, I’d way rather get another playoff-caliber starter to pair with Bradish and Rogers than spend it on a marginal OF upgrade.

jdbolickMember since 2024
5 months ago
Reply to  kevo8

Robert would make the Orioles better, but if I were Elias, I’d rather use my (presumably finite) payroll space on the top end of the rotation, such as by signing Valdez.

That’s fair, but having Robert in center would improve the outlook for every pitcher already in the rotation. The Orioles project for the worst defense in the American League, with no players at any position expected to be above average and several projected to be amongst the worst.

Cowser is never going to be a plus plus defensive CF, but he’s put up OAA/DRS values of 1/-1 in CF each of the past two seasons in ~300-400 innings per year, suggesting he’s perfectly adequate on that side of the ball

OAA (2) thinks he’s fine in center, but he’s at -5 DRS and -3.2 UZR over his 791 career innings.

All of the projection systems see him as a roughy 100-110 wRC+ guy, with THE BAT and Steamer on the low end of that and ZiPS and OOPSY on the high end. 

OOPSY is the only one that really likes Cowser at the plate, as every other projection has him between 100 and 103, which I think is still optimistic. In 2025, Cowser was dead last in called + swinging strike percentage, and he was still 18th worst in 2024. He’s always taken an extreme amount of strikes, which works if pitchers fear you enough to stay out of the zone, but no one fears Cowser anymore. When your Z-Contact% is only 80% you need to be more aggressive on pitches inside the strike zone.

It will be interesting to see how the Orioles and Mets do in 2026, as they have gone to opposite extremes in how they approach team defense.

ItsALightBatMember since 2025
5 months ago

If Robert and Julio are 2 of the 3 guys who can play CF with 40HR/30SB/GG potential, who is the 3rd guy? PCA, Buxton, and Merrill would be the candidates… Buxton and Robert are in similar category imo due to health concerns, but athletically dangerous. Merrill and PCA are great players, but I’m not sure either has the twitchy-ness of Julio, Robert,
and Buxton. Certainly not a final verdict, Merrill and PCA are still very young pros. It’s been impressive watching Julio come back each spring somehow faster and stronger than the previous year. Would be great to see all five of these guys healthy and balling out this year to get an idea who’s the best (Julio).

Ryan CorkreanMember since 2020
5 months ago

@benclemens love the piece and the idea of plotting launch angle and squared-up%. Have you considered swapping the axes (so that the plot is Squared-Up% vs. LA)? Squared-Up% strikes me as a more intuitive dependent variable in this dynamic, and the resulting graph would have a maximum at the “purest contact” LA you refer to. Just a thought, looking forward to seeing the final tool!

John GibbonsMember since 2026
5 months ago

“I also don’t put a lot of credence into the idea of the Sox paying down Robert’s salary to get a bigger return; he’d still be a rental, and teams just don’t pay much for rental bats these days.

Per Jeff Passan, since Mets are subject to 110% competitive balance tax, Robert will actually cost them $42MM. Wouldn’t buying down half of the $20MM therefore save $21MM and, if that’s how it works, wouldn’t the Mets part with some additional talent for that amount of savings? Now the WS went and wasted that $20MM on 2 years of Seranthony Dominguez, like they are going to need to save any important games in ’26 or ’27. They could have bought some decent YOUNG talent instead.

Obviously all depending on his health, but LuBob’s defense and baserunning will provide a floor of 2.5 WAR and getting away from the toxic WS franchise and playing meaningful baseball should improve his offense, so I bet he gets 4+WAR in ’26 and they wind up exercising his ’27 option.