NL Championship Series Preview: San Diego Padres vs. Philadelphia Phillies

Did anybody out there have this one? None of us did. While it’s not altogether surprising that either the Padres or the Phillies, two very good teams, made it this deep into the postseason, it’s incredible that both of them have, considering who they had to go through to get here. While a handful of the FanGraphs staff members picked the Padres to beat the Mets in the Wild Card Series, none of us picked them to beat the Dodgers, and even though the vast majority of us thought the Phillies would dispatch the Cardinals, only two of us picked them to beat Atlanta.
This seems foolish in hindsight, especially as it pertains to the Padres. They have a dangerous heart of the order led by MVP candidate Manny Machado and young star Juan Soto, who is starting to heat up. Neither Max Scherzer nor Spencer Strider seemed 100% in their respective postseason outings (key details that allow for some amount of site-wide absolution), making the Padres the lone NL postseason team with three totally healthy premium starting pitchers in Yu Darvish, Blake Snell, and Joe Musgrove. Their bridge to Josh Hader — Robert Suarez and Luis García in high-leverage spots, Tim Hill as a lefty specialist and Steven Wilson as a mid-90s/slider middle inning rock — might be the best relief corps of the remaining playoff teams, depending on whether you value depth (Houston’s bullpen takes the cake in this department) or peak individual nastiness ceiling (give me the Padres or Guardians). Despite Fernando Tatis Jr.’s suspension and a difficult playoff draw, San Diego has now bested the two teams that spent most of the calendar atop the National League and now enjoys home field advantage in a League Championship Series.
The Phillies are also playing with house money. If you had listened to Philadelphia sports talk radio in August (I was visiting home and fell off the wagon), you’d have thought the Phillies were an awful team rather than a good one that’s simply somewhat incomplete. Even though they (along with the Padres) kind of backed into the playoffs, the depth of their lineup and their two elite starters were obviously enough to make them dangerous in October, and in two playoff series those traits were sufficient to overcome a middling bullpen (which may or may not be without veteran David Robertson again in the NLCS) and bad team defense. With the NLCS set to get underway on Tuesday, we’re no more than a week and a half away from one of these two clubs punching a World Series ticket.
Philadelphia’s four-game elimination of Atlanta kept Zack Wheeler from having to pitch in a decisive Game 5, enabling him to take the ball for NLCS Game 1 in San Diego. It also sets up him and Aaron Nola to start a combined four of the first six games of this series, all on normal rest thanks to the off day for travel after Game 2. That’s big for the Phillies: the drop from Wheeler/Nola to third starter Ranger Suárez is steeper than San Diego’s drop from Darvish and Snell (also on track to pitch Games 1, 2, 5, and 6 on usual rest) to Musgrove, if there’s a drop there at all.
Because there is no scheduled off day for travel after the series leaves Philadelphia and heads back to San Diego for a theoretical sixth game, whoever starts Game 3 would need to work on short rest in a potential Game 7, perhaps muting San Diego’s anticipated Musgrove advantage a bit by increasing the likelihood that both bullpens are heavily involved in what would otherwise be the sequel to that matchup. And while six-pitch Suárez had a fine second half of the season as he began throwing more cutters, his last few starts have been rocky, including a bullet-dodging, five-walk mess in NLDS Game 1 against the Braves.
Even without any production from NL regular-season home run leader Kyle Schwarber so far in the playoffs, the Phillies’ vaunted offense has been their October engine, as they’ve plated at least six runs in four of their six games so far. Bryce Harper has ten hits in those games, six of which have gone for extra bases. Most of the rest of the team’s offensive success has come from timely, baton-passing hitting rather than white-hot individuals, aside from a scorching Harper.
Philly manager Rob Thomson has sometimes utilized an in-game platoon at shortstop and in center field, mixing and matching Edmundo Sosa and Bryson Stott, as well as Matt Vierling and Brandon Marsh. The two lefty bats — Stott and Marsh — often start, and Thomson tends to sandwich them around Jean Segura at the bottom of the Phillies’ order, to prevent hitters eight, nine, and one (typically Schwarber) from being vulnerable against relief lefties for three consecutive batters. If Bob Melvin can deploy the lefty Hill, or maybe even Sean Manaea, proactively against the bottom of the order and coax Thomson into inserting his righties in the middle of the game, he can ensure that the Padres get favorable right-on-right matchups late, since Thomson will have already made his relevant offensive substitutions, and the entire back half of the Phillies’ lineup will be right-handed from then on.
Don’t sleep on Vierling. The gap between his xwOBA and actual wOBA was the seventh-largest in MLB among hitters with at least 150 plate appearances in 2022, suggesting he had tough ball-in-play luck during the regular season and is a better hitter than his surface stats would make you think. Snell may present a favorable matchup in Game 2; his breaking balls tend to finish toward the down-and-in portion of the zone for right-handed hitters, which is where Vierling’s somewhat odd-looking swing tends to be most dangerous. Having him (or the threat of him hitting for Marsh) and Rhys Hoskins surrounding Schwarber in the lineup might also dissuade Melvin from attacking Schwarber with a lefty, or put the Phillies in position to punish him for it if he does.
Whatever the Phillies think they can do to get Schwarber going, they have to try. Not only have his results been bad during postseason play, but the quality of his at-bats has also taken a hit. He’s hitting .050 so far during the playoffs and is seeing about one fewer pitch per plate appearance, on average, than he was during a more patient regular season.
Conversely for the Padres, things look like they’re starting to click for Soto, who struggled most of the year. While he hasn’t homered yet this postseason, he was starting to pull the ball with power in the middle of the NLDS, and he once again showed flashes of oppo gap power. His triple slash line from the NLDS looks bad, but in three of the four games, he had either the hardest-hit ball in play or the second-hardest-hit ball in play. He might be turning a corner. Machado, meanwhile, has sustained an MVP level of play, and the Padres have also gotten cherry-on-top contributions from the bottom of their lineup, especially Trent Grisham and Austin Nola, who had a big NLDS.
Unless Melvin pulls a fast one and starts Jorge Alfaro or Luis Campusano, the Nola brothers will face one another in the biggest baseball game of their lives. They played together at LSU — only one season; then-shortstop Austin has three years on Aaron — and have faced each other in regular-season games each of the last two years.
Though not as intensely personal, there is more narrative intrigue in this series. Both García and Alfaro are former Phillies. García had spent a year away from baseball and was briefly cutting hair and working for a moving company in 2012 when the Phillies signed him and gave him his first big league time; his career is now about a decade long. Alfaro was part of the Cole Hamels trade return from Texas and is the only of the many prospects in that trade to have kind of panned out. Brad Hand is also a former Padre, returning to the place where he broke out and was eventually traded for Francisco Mejía.
The Padres have better defenders at every position but catcher, the better bullpen, and a slightly deeper “top” of their rotation, though that only matters for one game in this series. The Phillies have a deeper lineup and a more helpful bench. Both of these clubs were put together by front offices that tend to skew old school, and both are full of cold-blooded players and field staff who mostly appear to play loose and with poise rather than self-ignited intensity (Harper and Ha-Seong Kim are exceptions to this) — something that both boisterous fanbases will no doubt bring to the party during this star-studded chase for the pennant.
Eric Longenhagen is from Catasauqua, PA and currently lives in Tempe, AZ. He spent four years working for the Phillies Triple-A affiliate, two with Baseball Info Solutions and two contributing to prospect coverage at ESPN.com. Previous work can also be found at Sports On Earth, CrashburnAlley and Prospect Insider.
Gonna be at Friday game at CBP and am already pumped. Hoping for a great series with two great fanbases out in full force.
It’s so great to not have to deal with Dodgers or Braves fans in this series. San Diego and Philly will both be rocking and hopefully the vibes will stay positive. Go Padres!
you’d prefer phillies fans over dodger fans? lolz
One of the most irritating traits a fanbase can have is thinking that they (as fans) are better than everyone else. Cardinals fans are probably the worst about this, but the Dodgers are bad too
Phillies fans are notorious for their rudeness. Don’t sweat the downvotes, sweepcut. You ain’t tellin’ nothin’ but the truth.
Normally I agree with the “all fanbases” part, but Philly fans really do seem to be in a class all their own.
These are two of the most exciting teams in baseball. Not necessarily the best, but certainly exciting. Phillies baseball, being BOOM or bust, is particularly exciting to watch. Anyone who saw the NLDS can attest. The offense is relentless and once it gets going it is hard to stop. I don’t believe the team ever hit its stride this season, perhaps until now.
Similarly, as ZIPS pointed out, the Padres roster (with Tatis) is now considered stronger for 2023 than the Dodgers. This team never found its rhythm. Whatever it lacked in consistency it made up for with energy and exciting baseball. Do I think that that means that one of these teams deserves to make it to the World Series? Not necessarily, but thats baseball’s pretty silly playoff structure (lets return to top 2 from each league making the CS). And in this circumstance, I’m happy the stars aligned the way they did.
What Eric failed to mention was the insane amount of star power and huge personalities that this series will have. Bryce Harper finally advancing into the CS, Juan Soto meeting his fellow ex-Nat right fielder, Manny Machado facing off against his 2012 debut counterpart. Snell and Harper’s either real or imagined hand-breaking beef. Fantastic starting pitching. Huge pop potential from both lineups. This series should be incredible.
Particularly interesting to look out for is Hoskins and Schwarber’s streakiness. Hoskins, when hes hot, is as productive as anyone in baseball. Schwarber too, is capable of turning into 2004 barry bonds. That’s why I’ve been incredibly high on the Phillies playoff chances all year. All it takes is getting in, and they got in. I think the phillies have the better chance of beating the astros. (also, defense doesn’t matter)
A battle of the highly touted 2019 Free Agency 300 million dollar men
not only that, the two guys who everyone said werent worth the investment and have surpassed expectations!
Why do the Phillies have a better chance to beat the Astros?
unquestionably better offense with a much higher ceiling. 1-5 can all tee off
Season wRC+ was 106 for the Phillies, 102 for the Padres. Padres improved their offense during the year so I think it’s probably a bit closer than even the 4 points of wRC+.
I think the Phillies have the better offense but it’s narrower than you appear to think.
There is no beef between Harper and Snell. Harper was steaming mad in the immediate aftermath and Snell was contrite. Harper recognized that and relented before he even left the field—you could see him acknowledging Snell and saying “I know, I know.” They texted each other after the game, with Snell again apologizing and Harper telling Snell to keep using inside fastballs to set up his slider.
Harper also mentioned he and Snell played together as youths i think with team usa. He knew the injury was serious right away and was emotional that makes sense.
Yeah, add 7 imaginary wins from a guy who might not ever play another game again and a lot of teams look pretty “exciting”.
Might not what? Which imaginary universe are you from?
The Phillies’ manager is Rob Thomson*
Not Rob Thompson nor Bobby Thomson nor Bobbi Thompson
Braves had the 3rd highest K% and 2nd most HR this year. Padres 22nd and 21st. Phillies defense could be more of a factor
Regular season TTO%
ATL 36.4%
SDP 33.3%
Assuming ~35 PA per game and using their regular season TTO%,
Braves would have ~22 balls in play while
Padres would have ~23 balls in play.
Yes, every little bit counts and Phillies defense absolutely is a factor,
but the difference in TTO tendency between the Braves and the Padres
is really really low on the list.
Also note TTO% is higher in the playoffs largely due to better pitching
TTO% during NLDS
ATL 41.5% (59/140)
SDP 42.1% (61/147)
At least at glance, the Phillies defense has become less comically awful since they cut Didi and added Marsh, Stott, and Sosa on the bench. The corners are still ROUGH while Bryce is stuck at DH, but it’s not quite as bad as the “Jean Segura and the Seven Dwarves” clownshow at the beginning of the year
LFGSD!
I put 50,000 on Phillly to win the series. They are also the underdogs. I’m confident they will win the series
One contrast between the clubs is their defense. Padres flashed a lot of leather against the Dodgers, and while Philly improved later in the year, their defense is not a strength.
Baseball being baseball, this means we will see the Padres defense make some critical mistakes while the Phillies lower rated D plays flawlessly 😉
And Tatis Jr. is basically out of baseball LMAOOOOOOO!!!