Kiley McDaniel Prospects Chat – 7/31/15

12:09
Kiley McDaniel: Running out to the car to get the charger for my laptop. Will answer questions alongside my Chipotle bowl in moments.

12:17
Kiley McDaniel: I’m here!

12:17
Comment From AJ Preller
Can Javier Baez stick at short?

12:19
Kiley McDaniel: I don’t think so, but some people think maybe. I think at best it’ll be like Corey Seager where it’s fringy and you put up with it for a few years if he hits, then eventually move him before he makes the big money.

I mentioned the whispers about Baez’s makeup when I was lower on him than the other publications two years ago and it seems like those whispers are getting louder. In general, iffy makeup guys that have trouble with their bread and butter (hitting for Baez) can’t be asked to also do another thing slightly out of their comfort zone, skills-wise (play shortstop). I’d hope for second, settle for third and hope it isn’t right field.

12:19
Comment From Pale Hose
Oh, look it’s Kiley.

12:19
Kiley McDaniel: It is.

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Recent History’s Biggest Trades Within the Division

Here’s one of baseball’s ol’ conundrums: to trade within the division or not. On the one hand, every team, in theory, participates in a trade only because they believe their team will ultimately reap the greater bounty. So who better than to reap great bounties from, then, if not one’s divisional foe?

But then again, if one is positioned as the “seller” in the trade, receiving future prospective talent in exchange for future veteran experience, aren’t you boosting your rival’s odds of making the playoffs? Which thus raises your rival’s odds at reaping the previously unavailable bounties, i.e.: increased revenues the following season, attainment of status as a desirable free-agent destination, glorious championship booty?

But then again, if you are truly reaping the greater trade bounty, won’t these additional spoils be, in due time, gloriously available to you?

I will not attempt to answer any of these questions. Instead, with some notable shifting around within their division during this most manic of weeks — Scott Kazmir, Jonathan Papelbon, Juan Uribe — I wanted to know which intra-division deal (completed before the July 31 non-waiver deadline) of the last decade saw the most WAR changing hands in that season. I’m looking at the most impactful trade within each division, and without considering value from the trades that came in future seasons or transactions. (Also: I’m using Baseball-Reference WAR here, as B-R splits up WAR by team played for within the same season.) Ordered by the divisions that saw the least to most WAR shifting hands:

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JABO: The Tigers Turned a David Price Profit

We know that the Tigers aren’t pleased to have wound up in this position. They’ve been one of baseball’s most win-now organizations in recent years, and nothing about the 2015 roster construction really conveyed an impression of “building for the future!” Rather, there’s been concern that the Tigers are headed for a cliff, on account of all the money they have tied up in declining players. And when that’s what the future looks like, you at least hope that you can win soon. This year, the winning hasn’t happened. The Tigers had to acknowledge their situation, and sell. There’s no way that was an easy call for them to make.

There is a silver lining, though, one other than simply understanding that sports are frivolous entertainment and there are far more important things in the world. That’s the steady and constant silver lining in the background. There’s a particular silver lining to the Tigers having dealt David Price to the Blue Jays. If the Tigers had their wish, they would’ve given the ball to Price in Game 1 of the ALDS. They got him for two years for a reason. But the return package the Tigers got from the Blue Jays is strong. The group, headed by Daniel Norris, instantly helps the Tigers’ system, and the return seems at least equivalent to what the Tigers gave to get Price in the first place. Which was a year ago, when Price was available for two playoff runs, not one.

Put it another way: Dave Dombrowski traded for Price. Price helped the 2014 Tigers win the AL Central by one game, and then he pitched in the playoffs. Granted, the Tigers got swept, but they got to use Price for their opportunity. Then they had Price for another four months. Now he’s been traded, for a strong group of young players. Even though Price himself has lost some value, given his imminent free agency, it looks like the Tigers managed to turn a profit here, overall.

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NERD Game Scores: Johnny Cueto Referendum Event

Devised originally in response to a challenge issued by viscount of the internet Rob Neyer, and expanded at the request of nobody, NERD scores represent an attempt to summarize in one number (and on a scale of 0-10) the likely aesthetic appeal or watchability, for the learned fan, of a player or team or game. Read more about the components of and formulae for NERD scores here.

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Most Highly Rated Game
Kansas City at Toronto | 19:07 ET
Cueto (130.2 IP, 92 xFIP-) vs. Hutchison (108.0 IP, 100 xFIP-)
In reality, the present game receives a NERD score of 7 — which is to say, tied with a pair of other games on tonight’s schedule and actually a point behind the Angels-Dodgers game featuring Clayton Kershaw. Unaccounted for by the metric’s haphazardly derived algorithm, however, is how Johnny Cueto’s start for Kansas City this evening represents his debut for that club following a noteworthy deadline trade. In reality, projecting Cueto’s performance over the course of the season is a matter largely of weighting and combining data from his past performances — of which sort of mathematical alchemy Steamer and ZiPS are the product. Owing to how the dumb human mind works, however, this start — for better or worse — will function as a referendum on the wisdom of Dayton Moore’s decision to acquire Cueto at all. (Until Cueto’s next start, at least, at which point the process will repeat itself.) Accordingly, what the author has done is to alter indiscriminately the game score for this contest — to alter it sufficiently such that it becomes the most highly rated game.

Readers’ Preferred Broadcast: Toronto Radio.

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Giants Add Mike Leake, Aim to Keep Pace With Dodgers

After a few days of being linked to top-line starting-pitching help like David Price and Cole Hamels — though never showing serious enough interest to land either player — the Giants have gone a less conspicuous route. Although the trade netting them Mike Leake from the Reds for two prospects (one of whom is was at the top of the Giants’ prospect list) only materialized late last night with little forewarning, the Giants have nonetheless added upside and depth to a rotation that has struggled this season. In doing so, they’ve positioned themselves to make a potential run at the division.

And why not? Sitting only a half game back from the Dodgers in the NL West, the Giants are probably closer than a lot of people thought they would be to the top of the standings, and having to go through a Wild Card play-in game isn’t fun. And, with only two of their five regular starters currently possessing ERAs or FIPs under 4.00, San Francisco has gotten to this point largely without the help of most of their pitching staff. With Leake, they’re counting on having a third reliable starter to go with Madison Bumgarner and Chris Heston, which at this point wouldn’t be too much to ask for: just take a look at the Giants’ record when Bumgarner and Heston have started compared to anyone else in the rotation, along with each pitcher’s WAR:

 Starter Team W/L WAR
Bumgarner/Heston 22-10 4.7
All Others 23-24 0.1

This is a crude but effective way of showing the serious dichotomy between the top and bottom of the Giants rotation. With Leake, the goal is to bridge that production gap, all the while hoping that Matt Cain and Jake Peavy can find some of their former magic during the second half of the season. Tim Hudson, who has pitched only one game out of the bullpen in his entire career, will now be adding to that singular tally as the odd man out.

There’s an upside consideration with Leake as well. He’ll now move from one of the most hitter-friendly parks to one of the most pitcher-friendly, with his ground-ball and limited swing-and-miss skill set lending itself well to the spacious nature of AT&T Park. His total effectiveness (considering he has had to pitch around half of his innings at Great American Ballpark) should cause us to wonder if the Giants might be in store for even better performance than we’ve seen out of Leake the past few years; let us consider a few statistics on the matter.

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Astros Acquire Acceptably Healthy Carlos Gomez

Here’s a trade that’s as much about a trade that didn’t happen as it is about itself. Yeah, it’s independently interesting that the Brewers traded Carlos Gomez to the Astros. It’s made all the more interesting by the fact that the Brewers also traded Carlos Gomez to the Mets, except that they didn’t, officially. The Mets, as you’re probably aware, claim they didn’t like Gomez’s medicals. Gomez and the Brewers said there’s nothing wrong in there. The Astros evidently didn’t see enough to convince themselves Gomez isn’t worth a barrel of prospects. So now it’s basically about the Astros’ evaluation vs. the Mets’ evaluation, and it was the Astros who freaked out about Brady Aiken.

Could be, it wasn’t actually about health. Maybe the Mets didn’t want to take on money, and we’ll see if they do anything else before Friday afternoon. Could be, also, there are just valid differences of opinion, since passing a physical isn’t always black and white. A few offseasons ago, Grant Balfour passed a Rays physical after failing the Orioles’ version. Teams look at things differently. I don’t know how right or wrong the Mets really are.

Here’s what I do know: another team in the race has determined Gomez should be able to help them. That team is paying a lot for the privilege. For the Mets, Gomez could’ve solved two problems. Instead, he’ll try to solve problems for the Astros, and honestly, this package is probably a better one for the Brewers, too, compared to Zack Wheeler and Wilmer Flores. The Brewers had a trade fall through, and then they made a better one. I don’t mean to make this about the Mets, but they’re the most fascinating party in all of it.

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Soria Moves from Motown to Pittsburgh

Twelve months after being acquired from Texas – and not saving a beleaguered bullpen – Joakim Soria has departed Detroit. The Tigers have traded the 31-year-old right-hander to the Pirates for 23-year-old shortstop prospect JaCoby Jones.

Soria did a decent job in Motown, but with his team’s playoff chances waning, the free-agent-to-be was destined to be dealt. Pittsburgh is a good fit. Soria isn’t sexy, but he’ll add valuable relief depth to a team capable of winning it all.

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Projecting the Prospects in the Dustin Ackley Trade

At long last, the Yankees have finally managed to land Dustin Ackley. The Bombers swung a deal for the very failed prospect in exchange for Ramon Flores and Jose Ramirez. Here’s what the data say on the two prospects headed to Seattle. (Note: WAR figures denote WAR through age-28 season.)

Ramon Flores, 8.1 WAR

Aside from 33 plate appearances in the Bronx, Ramon Flores has spent the entire year playing at the Triple-A level, where he’s put together a nice little .286/.377/.417 season. The 23-year-old’s biggest strength is his ability to control the strike zone. He’s walked nearly as much as he’s struck out in Triple-A this year (12% vs. 13%), and he’s posted similar numbers in his previous minor-league seasons. He complements these plate-coverage skills with modest power (.130 ISO) and a dash of speed. Flores also played at the Triple-A level last season, where he hit .247/.339/.443 in 63 games around an ankle injury.

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Projecting the Prospects in the David Price Trade

In yet another blockbuster deal, the Toronto Blue Jays have landed David Price from the Tigers in exchange for lefty hurlers Daniel Norris, Jairo Labourt and Matt Boyd. More pitching prospects on the move! Once again, I’ve applied my fancy computer math to these players to try to get some sense of these pitchers’ futures. If you’re looking for scouting reports on these players, check out Kiley’s write up of this trio. (Note: WAR figures denote WAR through age-28 season.)

Daniel Norris, 4.8 WAR

The centerpiece of the players headed to Detroit is easily Daniel Norris, who was widely considered to be one of the top-20 prospects in baseball heading into the year. Norris enjoyed a meteoric rise through the Blue Jays farm system in 2014. After 13 dominant starts at High-A, the Blue Jays bumped him up to Double-A for eight starts, and then Triple-A for four starts, before giving him a taste of the big leagues last September. Norris pitched to a 2.53 ERA and 2.57 FIP in the minors in 2014.

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Yankees Finally Get Dustin Ackley

The Yankees had been chasing Dustin Ackley for a while. I don’t know exactly how long the pursuit had gone on, but I remember rumors around the 2013 winter meetings, and they’ve popped up from time to time since. Somewhere, in the back of his mind, Brian Cashman maintained his interest in Ackley, and now he’s finally gotten Jack Zduriencik to crack, with Ackley going to the Yankees in exchange for Ramon Flores and Jose Ramirez.

For an idea of how Ackley’s season has gone, he started 20 games in May, and he’s started a combined 19 games in June and July. He’s sitting on a dreadful…pretty much everything, so his playing time has dwindled, and so his availability has increased. With that said, just last season, Ackley was about a league-average hitter, and now he’s about to become a left-handed hitter in Yankee Stadium. Plus there’s, you know, everything else.

The background, I mean. The pedigree. There’s what Ackley has been, and there’s what Ackley was supposed to be, and while he’s 27 years old now, there’s still the feeling that his bat could be unleashed. Just the other day, I was thinking about a hypothetical reader poll, in which I ask the audience what it thinks Ackley would’ve developed into had he been drafted by, say, the Cardinals. Not that we have any way of knowing the truth, but I thought it could be fun to look at the results anyway, and the underlying suggestion is that perhaps Ackley wasn’t handled right. Maybe there are things that could be improved, that might only improve with another organization. An organization like the Yankees.

What’s tougher to see is exactly how Ackley fits. In the past, he was a second baseman, and he was pretty good at it. More recently, he’s been an outfielder, but he doesn’t have the arm strength for right. Maybe Ackley replaces Stephen Drew, but that doesn’t seem like a foregone conclusion. It’s also possible Ackley will just be flipped somewhere else, but given the history of the Yankees’ pursuit here, it seems more like they’ll find him a spot. If he ends up at second base, he could be adequate, and he’s under control another two years. If he roves around and hangs out on the bench, that’s not a real interesting player, but someone had to take this chance, just to see if different instruction might cause it all to click. Prospect sheen lasts a while, and it often lasts beyond the first organization.

Given how little they’ve used him of late, the Mariners won’t miss Ackley too much, and maybe there’s psychological value in just turning the page. Every time he walked up with a sub-.220 average just served as a reminder of busted promise. The return: Ramirez is a 25-year-old reliever, and Flores is a 23-year-old outfielder. Before the year, Kiley had Flores at No. 19 in the Yankees’ system, and Ramirez at No. 23. Some excerpts:

Flores is one of those players that reached his upside quickly, but doesn’t have much more to offer than as a solid part-time player. He has solid bat speed, great plate discipline and feel to hit with good plate coverage, but average at best power that limits the damage he can do.

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Ramirez is one of the most exciting players on this list; in the linked video, he hit 100 mph with a 70 changeup and an inconsistent slider that flashes average to slightly above. His problem has been like Heathcott; he’s can’t stay on the field, but Ramirez was big league ready at least a year ago. None of Ramirez’s injuries have been to his arm, but to his oblique, caused by a lack of body fat and his quick-twitch movements on the mound.

Flores has had a solid all-around season in Triple-A, and maybe he’s ready to be a role player. Hell, maybe he’s ready to be just as good as recent versions of Dustin Ackley. Ramirez has had a decent season in Triple-A, working in 32 games, but he’s struggled to throw consistent strikes, which applies to most relief prospects who aren’t elite-level relief prospects. A few times, Ramirez has popped up in the majors, throwing in the mid- to high-90s with a mid-80s changeup. He’s a small amount of improvement away from being a reliable relief arm, which the Mariners have sorely needed all season.

This is the way the Dustin Ackley Era ends. Overshadowed by other moves, exchanged for an outfield reserve and a reliever with insufficient present control. Granted, if Ackley keeps playing like he’s played, the Mariners will be happy to have their guys. And the Yankees will be happy to finally have their shot at solving what’s been an unsolvable problem. I hear there could be a hefty reward.