Red Sox Head Towards a Crossroads with Mookie Betts

With president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski fired and the team’s playoff odds heading into skim milk territory, the Red Sox have effectively thrown in the towel on 2019. Who will be charged with cleaning up the situation — a competitive roster that will nonetheless have significant holes to fill, a massive payroll that could limit their ability to do, a depleted farm system, and sky-high expectations nonetheless — remains to be seen. One thing is certain, however: at or near the top of the incoming executive’s to-do list will be figuring out how to handle Mookie Betts‘ pending free agency following the 2020 season. For as tempting as it may be to trade him before he walks away, the Red Sox could be making a serious mistake.

Betts, who will turn 27 on October 7, is in the midst of another fine season, if not one that measures up to last year’s high standards. Through Monday, he’s hitting .290/.388/.522 with 27 homers, 14 stolen bases, a 133 wRC+, and 6.1 WAR. Among American League players, his on-base percentage (fourth), WAR (fourth), and steals (10th) rank among the top 10, but for as impressive as that may be, it’s a marked contrast to 2018, when he led the AL in batting average (.346), slugging percentage (.640), and WAR (10.4) while placing second in on-base percentage (.438) and wRC+ (185), fourth in steals (30), and ninth in homers (32) en route to winning AL MVP honors in a landslide and helping the Red Sox to a championship. Not only was that 10.4 WAR higher than any player’s — even Mike Trout’s — since Barry Bonds’ 11.9 in 2004, but Betts posted that mark during his age-25 season, younger than any other 10-win player from the post-1960 expansion era save for Trout.

10-WAR Seasons Since 1961
Rk Player Team Season Age WAR
1 Barry Bonds Giants 2002 37 12.7
2 Barry Bonds Giants 2001 36 12.5
3 Barry Bonds Giants 2004 39 11.9
4 Carl Yastrzemski Red Sox 1967 27 11.1
5 Joe Morgan Reds 1975 31 11.0
6 Willie Mays Giants 1965 34 10.7
7 Cal Ripken Orioles 1991 30 10.6
8 Willie Mays Giants 1962 31 10.5
9 Barry Bonds Giants 1993 28 10.5
10 Willie Mays Giants 1964 33 10.5
11 Mookie Betts Red Sox 2018 25 10.4
12 Mickey Mantle Yankees 1961 29 10.3
13 Barry Bonds Giants 2003 38 10.2
14 Rickey Henderson Athletics 1990 31 10.2
15 Norm Cash Tigers 1961 26 10.2
16 Mike Trout Angels 2013 21 10.2
17 Buster Posey Giants 2012 25 10.1
18 Mike Trout Angels 2012 20 10.1
19 Alex Rodriguez Rangers 2002 26 10.0

By that yardstick, Betts’ 2019 looks like something of a disappointment, though he has dug his way out of an early-season funk that saw him hit an unremarkable .243/.375/414 (108 wRC+) in May and June. Since July 1, he’s hit .329/.397/.616 for a 155 wRC+ and 3.3 WAR, the last of which is fifth in the majors in that span behind only Alex Bregman (3.8), Trout (3.7), Anthony Rendon (3.5), and Ketel Marte (3.4). Prorate that performance to his season total of plate appearances (670) and that’s 7.8 WAR with 18 games still to play — an MVP-caliber season in most years.

Betts is making $20 million this year, his second of arbitration eligibility. His salary is a record for a player in his second or even third year of eligibility; the only players with higher salaries prior to free agency were Super Twos who had a fourth year of eligibility (Nolan Arenado, Josh Donaldson, Bryce Harper). Unlike Boston’s other homegrown stars of recent vintage such as Dustin Pedroia and Xander Bogaerts, throughout his arbitration eligibility, the pint-sized right fielder has resisted signing a long-term extension. Following the 2017 season, Betts reportedly rebuffed an eight-year, $200 million offer by the Red Sox. In late March, when Trout’s 12-year, $426.5 million extension set records and significantly reduced the inventory of winter 2020-21 free agents, Betts said, “I don’t expect anything to happen until I’m a free agent,” though he did not completely dismiss the possibility of reaching an agreement with the Sox. In July, Betts attempted to clear any misconceptions that he’s unhappy in Boston, saying, “Just because you go to free agency doesn’t mean you don’t want to be somewhere. It’s just a part of the business.”

With playoff odds in the vicinity of 50% as the July 31 deadline approached, the Red Sox couldn’t have been expected to trade Betts, but with a 17-18 record since, winter is coming sooner than expected in New England, and it’s clear that hard choices will have to be made regarding the flawed roster Dombrowski’s successor inherits. As noted previously, the Red Sox are carrying the majors’ largest payroll whether measured by actual salaries ($236.17 million) or for Competitive Balance Tax purposes ($241.26 million). The latter figure is $35.26 million over the threshold, and as second-time offenders who have exceeded the threshold by more than $20 million, they’re subject to higher marginal rates and surtaxes; their tax bill for this year will exceed $12 million.

Even with Rick Porcello, Mitch Moreland, and Steve Pearce hitting free agency this fall, for tax purposes the team has about $134 million committed to just seven players, plus about another $17 million worth of minor league salaries and benefits according to our new RosterResource payroll pages — a count that includes J.D. Martinez, who can opt out of the final three years and $62.5 million of his deal, but also has an out after 2020, not that he’s getting any younger (he just turned 32). With next year’s tax threshold set at $208 million, and with a 50% marginal rate for overage based on being three-time offenders, the Sox don’t have a ton of room to pay their arbitration raises and retool their pitching staff and pay Betts, say, $27 million (assuming he surpasses Arenado’s record by $1 million). Not that owner John Henry, whose net worth is a reported $2.7 billion, can’t afford it, but the message sent by Dombrowski’s firing is an organizational expectation of some fiscal restraint, however artificial that construct may be.

That puts the new regime at an instant crossroads: retain Betts for 2020, and hope that they can outbid other teams once he hits free agency, or trade him this winter so as to generate a significantly greater return in prospects or younger players than by waiting until next July or letting him depart via free agency after the season. Neither route is for the faint of heart.

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Barring an atypically down season from Betts — who has averaged 7.0 WAR over the past five seasons, this incomplete one included — re-signing him will likely require a commitment upwards of $300 million. Even under the relatively adverse conditions of this past winter, when teams did their best to freeze out free agents and highlight the flaws in their respective games and makeups, both Bryce Harper (who was coming off a subpar season) and Manny Machado (who spent October casting himself as the villain) reached that figure with long-term deals that began with their age-27 seasons. Betts’ next deal won’t begin until his age-28 season, but he will have outproduced both by a wide margin leading up to that point. Obviously, we don’t know what he’ll do yet in 2020, but he’s already banked 34.9 WAR since the start of 2015; even if with just 0.1 more this year and 5.0 next year, he’d reach 40 WAR for that period. By comparison, for the 2013-18 period (six seasons, paralleling Betts’ 2015-20) Machado produced 28.9 WAR and Harper 26.1. While teams have increasingly shown a resistance to paying free agents for past production, in this case, Betts’ recent past sets a significantly higher projection going forward despite his relative age difference.

As for the possibility of trading Betts a year before free agency, the notable examples of recent vintage all take a back seat when it comes to recent production:

Notable Recent Players Traded One Year Before Free Agency
Player From To Date Age Prev WAR 1 Prev WAR 2 Prev WAR 3 Tot
Paul Goldschmidt ARI STL* 12/5/18 31 5.2 5.3 4.9 15.4
Jason Heyward ATL STL 11/17/14 25 4.7 3.1 5.3 13.1
Andrew McCutchen PIT SFG 1/15/18 31 3.6 1.0 6.0 10.6
Jeff Samardzija OAK CHW 12/9/14 30 4.4 3.0 2.7 10.1
Justin Upton ATL SDP 12/19/14 27 3.7 3.5 2.5 9.7
Yoenis Céspedes BOS DET 12/11/14 29 3.5 1.9 4.0 9.4
Rick Porcello DET BOS* 12/11/14 26 3.0 2.9 3.0 8.9
Mookie Betts BOS — — 27 6.6 10.4 5.3 22.3
Age is player’s season-age in his first year with the new team. Prev WAR 1, 2,3 represents WAR one, two or three year prior to being traded. * = signed extension with new team

Without getting bogged down in the details of each trade, I’ll present the deals here as taken from Baseball-Reference, mainly for scanning purposes:

There are a lot of Remember Some Guys types of recent vintage, and just a few players who are particularly relevant in 2019, namely Fried, Kelly, Reynolds, Semien, and Weaver. Granted, a Betts deal might net a bigger name, but it’s not going to bring back the equivalent of, say, Yoán Moncada, whom the White Sox acquired when trading Chris Sale to the Red Sox thanks to the ace lefty’s three remaining years of club control at a rate well below the market.

Back to the table above, if he were traded, Betts would not be the youngest in this class, but he would be by far the most productive in the years immediately leading up to the deal. In fact, his WAR through age 26 is among the highest of the post-1992 expansion era, that while playing fewer games than any other player in the top nine:

Highest Position Player WAR Through Age-26 Season Since 1993
# Player Games WAR
1 Mike Trout 1065 64.7
2 Alex Rodriguez 1114 52.8
3 Albert Pujols 933 45.8
4 Andruw Jones 1137 41.8
5 Mookie Betts 786 36.6
6 Bryce Harper 1065 34.1
7 Manny Machado 1065 32.9
8 David Wright 847 31.3
9 Grady Sizemore 788 30.4
10 Evan Longoria 637 28.7
11 Joe Mauer 699 28.5
12 Ken Griffey Jr.* 479 28.3
13 Hanley Ramirez 760 28.1
14 Brian McCann 754 27.8
15 Adrián Beltré 1122 27.7
16 Andrew McCutchen 734 27.6
17 Nomar Garciaparra 595 27.5
18 Giancarlo Stanton 827 27.3
19 Miguel Cabrera 1040 27.3
20 Francisco Lindor 700 27
* = Totals do not include Griffey’s 1989-92 seasons (ages 19-22); with those, he totaled 48.0 WAR (which would rank third) in 1,057 games.

If I had used age-25 seasons as a cutoff, Betts would still rank fifth at 30.6 (in just 644 games), and Heyward would crack the leaderboard at number 14 with 25.1 WAR (in 838 games). All of which is to say that this is a very special player, one who’s laying down tracks to Cooperstown — he’s approaching the peak standard for right fielders in terms of bWAR (41.4 vs. 42.1) before the end of his sixth season, and should surpass it in his seventh — and one for whom there aren’t any true parallels for such trades.

Here it’s worth noting that in the winter of 2017-18, the Orioles explored trading Machado and likewise for the Blue Jays with Donaldson. Both were coming off of comparatively subpar years; Machado was worth just 2.4 WAR in his age-25 season after totaling 12.9 WAR over the previous two years, while Donaldson was worth 5.1 WAR in just 113 games in his age-31 season (having missed six weeks due to a right calf strain) compared to 16.3 over his previous two seasons. Whether out of concern that their most recent seasons were the start of downturns or signs of future health woes, the gap between their respective teams’ asking prices and the offers they received obviously wasn’t enough to consummate deals in either case, but in both, the teams received even less in return when trading them before the deadlines (Machado to the Dodgers on July 31, Donaldson to the Indians on August 31).

In the end, there’s a reason it’s hard to find a recent parallel for Betts’ situation: great young players like him generally don’t get traded, both because it’s difficult to generate significant value in return and because, well, giving up a generational talent isn’t a good idea. The Red Sox have put themselves in a difficult position given their current payroll situation, and while the new regime should explore his market this winter in case they’re bowled over, trading him simply for the sake of trading him would be cutting off their collective noses to spite their faces. Henry and whoever it is that succeeds Dombrowski need to figure out a way to play out the 2020 season and keep Betts in Boston.





Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.

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OTMHeartBBCMember since 2019
7 years ago

Those boston fans better hold their racist tongues if they have any shot of getting him back in free agency

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
7 years ago
Reply to  OTMHeartBBC

If Betts is only willing to play in a city free of jackholes, he’s better off retiring now.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  HappyFunBall

Boston sports fans do have a history here. I’d like to think that it’s better now, but it’s been a problem as recent as 2017 (with Adam Jones).

Richie
7 years ago

Man, that Trout guy peaked at 21 and’s been worse than that ever since. I knew he was never going to develop. Not focused enough, cares too much about the weather.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  Richie

“Can you really trust the long term health of someone who identifies as a hard core Eagles fan?” 😉

NATS FanMember since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  Richie

Trouts WAR went down when he stopped leading off and getting over 700 plate appearances a season! Bad move if you ask this observer!

Lanidrac
7 years ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

On an individual level, yes, but your team is probably going to win more games when your best hitter has a lot more guys on base when he bats. You can argue whether it’s better to bat him #2 or #3, but unless you’ve just got no other options for a good OBP, you don’t put a guy like Trout at leadoff on a consistent basis.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago

The idea that the Red Sox, who are one of the five richest teams in MLB (along with the Yankees, Dodgers, Cubs, and Giants), would fail to retain a guy who is expected to be a Top 5 position player in MLB and who will likely continue providing star-level production for a huge amount of time, is insane. If that involves giving him a Trout-level contract, then that’s what they need to do.

Now, if JD Martinez opts out? Maybe the Red Sox let him walk. That’s defensible even without the Betts contract. You can replace an excellent-hitting DH and still compete, but it’s a lot harder without your best player. And that’s before we even think of the riots that will ensure in Boston when the news breaks.

Sandy Kazmir
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

A riot in Boston, you say?comment image

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  Sandy Kazmir

This specific event is a good representation of what OTMHeartBBC was referring to when he referenced the racist tongues of Boston.

I’d like to think that things have changed now, and they probably have, but probably not enough.

(Ironically, the guy behind Landsmark looks like he’s trying to restrain him, but he actually is trying to get Landsmark behind him to protect him. A small act of humanity in a racist time.)

Shalesh
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I agree, I can’t imagine Boston letting Betts going anywhere else and they’ll do their best to keep Betts, Bogaerts, and Devers together. I think they may have to give Benintendi away to dump Price’s or Sale’s contract and will not be able to match JDM, if they want to get under the luxury cap and want to have a payroll scaled down to their win expectancy. They need some unexpected stars to emerge out of their terrible farm system. I think this team is stuck in the lower-middle for the next few years.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  Shalesh

I see no reason to dump Price’s or Sale’s contract, unless someone gets really dumb and decides they want to take most of it. All they need is for (1) JDM to opt out, and (2) just need to not give out any $100M contracts or more to anyone not named Mookie Betts the next 2 years. They’ll have some holes, but hopefully they’ll hire someone smart enough to figure it out–mostly because they don’t need to reset the tax today, just at some point.

jfra
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Agree. It is unfortunate to let JD go after he rubbed his knowledge off to so many players on the red sox these past three years. But if management has to decide between the two then Betts 100% the way to go. And if management fails to realize that then Boston is in trouble.

If they get in a position where they sign JD because they do not know Mookie’s plan… New management would start off being hated in Boston. I don’t think they want that.
@EddieRomeroJr. LOL.

Richie
7 years ago

If Mookie’s determined to test the free agent market, nothing the Sox can do but ride with it. Barring a won-loss crash-and-burn next season, then see what you can get. Otherwise, bankrolls like Red Sox/Yankees/Dodgers just don’t lose their stars.

Pepper Martin
7 years ago
Reply to  Richie

I don’t think the Yankees would be in the discussion for Betts. They’ve already got a long term financial commitment to Stanton and will shortly be owing one to Judge; I don’t think another $30 mill a year for a corner outfielder is in the cards.

BubbaMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  Pepper Martin

Betts can play an average to above average CF, but i also don’t see a $100MM OF in the Yankees future.

southie
7 years ago

Bonds with 12.7 WAR at age 37. What a savage.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  southie

Is that what we call it now?

Psychic... Powerless...
7 years ago
Reply to  southie

I lived through the Bonds years and followed him closely, but it’s still startling to see his stats.

Jon
7 years ago

Think about this: nearly every single time you hear about how hot so-and-so is over the past 2 weeks, or how unbelievably good that guy was for the month September, or whatever, Barry Bonds was better over a 4 YEAR period.

sandwitchman
7 years ago
Reply to  Jon

You know who else was great – Lance Armstrong

The Duke
7 years ago
Reply to  sandwitchman

That’s funny. And the perfect answer

Runaway ToasterMember since 2016🏆 MVP
7 years ago
Reply to  sandwitchman

Here’s the thing, we absolutely know everyone else was juicing in cycling, and we’re fairly certain tons of players were juicing in MLB, and none of them every came close to Armstrong or Bonds.

If you think those 2 just took even more steroids than everyone else, I don’t know what to tell you. For me, the much more likely explanation is that they were already crazy dominant, and if no one were juicing, they would have still been eye-popping, all-time greats. Same with Clemens, same with A-Rod.

Anthony Princeton
7 years ago

Where is it confirmed that everyone was juicing in cycling? Bonds cheated. His production is tainted, Deal with it and stop making ridiculous scenarios and statements.

Runaway ToasterMember since 2016🏆 MVP
7 years ago

@Anthony Princeton – Other than the huge news cycles about it, you can see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_at_the_Tour_de_France#Doping_histories_of_Top-10_finishers,_1998–2015

And that’s just the Tour de France, let alone the other events.

I don’t know what ridiculous scenario or statement I made?

What is ridiculous is your notion that just by taking steroids, anyone can gain the ability to be in the same stratosphere that Bonds was. Not only has it been shown that players can’t do that (they’ve been caught… and not been worth 10+ WAR), but if it were that easy, wouldn’t everyone under the sun be trying? If you don’t get caught, you could make half a BILLION dollars in your career! Hell, A-Rod DID get caught and made that much!

I don’t understand your attempt at some holier-than-thou, moral high-ground here.

Rational FanMember since 2020
7 years ago

Not sure I agree with you on Clemens. He had very clearly peaked at about 28 and had a serious downturn in his career after that.

Lanidrac
7 years ago

Maybe so, but then Bonds’s numbers would look more like Albert Pujols’s, an easy first-ballot Hall of Famer, but not the holder of so many records and such a ridiculously productive late-career peak that make him seem like a Top-5 All-Time Hitter.

Uncle SpikeMember since 2020
7 years ago

I don’t know, call me crazy but I think the Red Sox need to at least explore the trade market for Betts. If he’s hell bent on getting to free agency, I think their odds of retaining him are less than 50%. I could be wrong but off the top of my head, I don’t recall too many superstars that reached free agency and ended up signing with their original team. The most likely scenario is he goes to the highest bidder. Perhaps that’s the Red Sox but would it be a good decision if they went 10 years, $350M? What about 12 years, $400M? I think those are pretty realistic numbers.

Obviously it depends on what they would get in return. Even if it was the Goldschmidt package, I would turn that down. However, is it possible they get someone like a Trammel from SD, or Ruiz from LAD, or Waters from ATL, or Tucker from HOU along with a 45 and 40 FV? Somewhat unlikely but I don’t think it’s out of the realm of reasonability. If they could get something like that in return and they weren’t at least 75% confident that they could resign him in free agency, I would pull the trigger.

Antonio BananasMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  Uncle Spike

The trade not only has to be someone with a ton of prospects, but they also have to be near contention and also have pretty big budgets. That basically limits their pool of suitors to the Yankees and Dodgers. They’re not going to trade him to the Yankees so it’s pretty much just the Dodgers. I don’t know if Atlanta or San Diego would be willing to trade top prospects if they don’t think they could re-sign betts. And I don’t know if either one is willing to commit what it would take to re-sign betts

Uncle SpikeMember since 2020
7 years ago

I think we underestimate the number of teams that would be willing to trade for/sign a superstar. The Padres surprised us on Machado and the White Sox and Giants were in on it too. When one of the top 5 players in the game is at play, a lot of teams are going to at least check in to see if they can make something work. Like I said, it’s probably unlikely they make something happen, but I would put the odds in the 10-20% range. At that rate, it’s still worth exploring the market.

D-WizMember since 2019
7 years ago

It’s almost like something fishy was going on at the end of Bonds’ career…

BenjaminMember since 2019
7 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

And yet, if you could wave a magic wand and give the entire set of MLB and MiLB hitters unfettered access to steroids for the rest of their careers, how many do you think would hit like that in their late 30s? Lots of people took steroids, only one of them turned into late career Bonds.

Paul-SF
7 years ago
Reply to  Benjamin

And let’s not forget pitchers were also using, yet Bonds still managed to hit like he did against them, too.

The Duke
7 years ago
Reply to  Paul-SF

Again no evidence that most of the pitchers bonds faced were using steroids. There are a handful of users we know of based on test results and exposes (thanks canseco)

Rational FanMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  The Duke

No evidence? How many first hand accounts need to tell you it was more than 50% of the league on the conservative side before you listen?

The Duke
7 years ago
Reply to  Benjamin

There’s no evidence that “lots “ of people took steroids. This is a prevalent argument to justify the stats of people who did use.

sandwitchman
7 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

it was the fish oil, I think.

John WickMember since 2018
7 years ago

How many teams could afford Betts, have a need in the outfield, and are competitive in 2020? Phillies, Nationals, Dodgers, Cubs, Cardinals, maaaaaaaaaybe the Angels, It’s ludicrous to say about a player as good as Betts, but I doubt the return the Red Sox could get will justify trading him, even if that’s the route they wanted to go strategically.

TKDCMember since 2016🏆 MVP
7 years ago
Reply to  John Wick

Every team with a shot at contending would give up something decent for Betts. Even Oakland or TB would find a way (though they’d give up less and thus wouldn’t make this trade).

CC AFCMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Yeah, there’s always teams that get irrationally confident, too. See e.g. the Reds and BVW this year

averagejoe15Member since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

I wouldn’t say irrationally confident. It’s honestly a breath of fresh air to see teams with below average outlooks attempt to field a competitive roster. Both those teams were confident they could make moves that would increase their ability to complete. Both those teams were correct, however neither will ultimately reach the playoffs this year.

Now BVW gave a lot of lip service to just how good they expected to be but that says more about the person than the roster they fielder. Both teams went for it to an extent and I salute them for that.

Anon21Member since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  John Wick

Braves fit, plus they have a better farm system than most of the teams you named. They do seem disinclined to trade their best prospects, though.

averagejoe15Member since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  Anon21

As a Sox fan, the Braves worry me with Mookie because he’s from Nashville, they are going to have a ton of money to spend if the corporate overlords allow it, and they have an up and coming roster versus Boston’s aging, expensive core.

Lanidrac
7 years ago
Reply to  John Wick

I doubt the Cardinals could afford him with huge raises due to Goldshmidt and Mikolas next year, while only Ozuna, Wacha, Gregerson, and Gyorko have somewhat significant salaries coming off the books.

D-WizMember since 2019
7 years ago

“…their tax bill for this year will exceed $12 million.” Every time I see the actual numbers for what these teams have to pay for going over the luxury tax, it becomes more infuriating that it is holding teams back from just trying to field a good baseball team. Sure, $12 million is more than I’ll ever see in my lifetime, but John Henry is a multi-*billionaire*; Dodgers’, Yankees’, etc. ownership groups all are in similar situations. The Sox in particular have basically been paying Pablo Sandoval that much money every year to not play for them. If it costs $10-$20 million extra to keep someone on pace to be a top 5 player in franchise history on the roster, so what? Should be an absolute no-brainer.

BaseballBreaksYourHeart
7 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

The thing is the Red Sox have no real way of getting under the luxury tax line in the near future. Baseball reference projects their payroll in 2022 to be $230+ million and above the tax line every year until then. This assumes they don’t resign anyone, no one opts-out, and makes some very rough arbitration estimates so lots to quibble with. But, if they resign Betts it will be extremely difficult to get under that line. The Red Sox, as repeat offenders would pay 50% on the overage.

So, the question for Betts is simple. If the Red Sox are willing to pay you $30 million a year that means they value your production at $45 million. Surely you can sign elsewhere and get above $30 million per year then. Went with per year for simplicity and $30 million may be low, but you get the point hopefully. In order for Betts to stay he needs to love Boston enough to take less money, be extremely risk averse and want to lock in his earnings this winter despite already being filthy rich and the fact that he will still get a big deal even with a down year, or the Red Sox must value him ~50% more than any other team. That is why I think he will walk.

Of course, maybe the Red Sox can get creative and get under the luxury tax line or they know something about the new CBA. But, this is why the luxury tax works. It isn’t the raw dollar amount, it is just a team has to value a player much more than every other team to sign a FA once they are over the line.

MikeSMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

This was exactly my thought. I read the beginning:

as second-time offenders who have exceeded the threshold by more than $20 million, they’re subject to higher marginal rates and surtaxes

I was expecting a big number.

their tax bill for this year will exceed $12 million.

That’s like one high leverage reliever. It’s nothing for them.

airforce21oneMember since 2026
7 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

This is a common perception of very successful people: “he has X amount of money, why not do money losing move Y?”

Generally the answer is because successful business people got to where they are by not wasting money and making unproductive investments. As much as fans hate to admit it, baseball is a business first. The tax penalties for exceeding the salary cap become extremely punitive when exceeded multiple times in succession.

MikeSMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  airforce21one

2 is multiple.

$12M is not “extremely Punitive” to a team that probably has a half billion dollars in expenses anyway.

The Red Sox would recoup far more than $12M by winning the WS again (or just making the playoffs) as opposed to finishing third in the AL East, which makes it anything but an “unproductive investment.”

Now, if MLB wants to institute a tax that is “extremely punitive” as a way to get a soft cap I’d be willing to listen to your logic. But the Red Sox have been over the threshold 7 times in 15 years and have paid all of $25M in fines. That’s peanuts for them. Only 2 teams have larger bills since 2000 – The dodgers with $150M and the Yankees at $320M. The luxury tax hasn’t really stopped any team from doing anything. Unless you think the Rays are so afraid of it they have worked hard not to get within $100M of triggering it.

Lanidrac
7 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

That’s only for this year, though. They have to pay a similar level of taxes for each year they do it, and resigning Betts will only make those yearly fees even higher. Eventually, they’ll be looking at well over $50M total of wasted luxury tax money before they can get back under the line.

Sandy Kazmir
7 years ago

If the Boston Red Sox do not trade Mookie Betts ASAP they risk losing him for nothing.

markymarc767Member since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  Sandy Kazmir

Thank you Sandy, very cool!

Baron Samedi
7 years ago

Future Blue Jay Mookie Betts

markymarc767Member since 2020
7 years ago

Not that he would EVER do it, but I find it interesting to think about what would happen if Betts decided to hold out into the 2020 season until he reached an extension with the Red Sox. I know that baseball in much more of a team sport than football, but the second Wild Card winner next year will likely need 95 wins. If JDM and Porcello leave (not that Porcello is very good but the alternative is Steven Wright/Brian Johnson again and that still leaves them with 0 depth), and given the Red Sox are on pace for 85 wins, where do the Red Sox find another 10 wins if they don’t have Mookie and the 6-10 wins he provides on his own? Presumably Sale and Price bounce back but they both have pretty large question marks due to their injuries recently, the rest of the rotation is anything but certain, and guys like Xander and Devers will have to maintain their MVP-level production for them to get even close.
Again, he’d never do it but Red Sox ownership will be in an interesting position in 2020.

Anon21Member since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  markymarc767

He doesn’t want an extension, though. He wants to go to free agency. So why would he wreck his reputation by holding out for something he doesn’t even want?

Lanidrac
7 years ago
Reply to  Anon21

Because teams would be reluctant to sign him in free agency if he has a reputation for going to extreme measures for greed. They’d be risking the chance of him pulling a greedy stunt on them as well.

CC AFCMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  markymarc767

I like where your head is at. I would think that sort of holdout would be more likely to help a pitcher. It seems like there wouldn’t be a ton of upside for Mookie to hold out, though. The risk that something will happen to Mookie that would substantially impact his expected free agency earnings is so low, it’s almost like, what’s the point? I mean, he could break his leg in game 1 and it would barely, if at all, effect what he would get in free agency.

For a pitcher, the injury risk (or general age-related decline risk) is so high, it might make some sense to try this. In fact, I’m all up for this. Syndergaard is a free agent in 2 years and he throws so hard it seems like his arm might pop off at some point. He’s also already trying to murder Wilson Ramos in the press, so he’s a shy lad. Let’s make this happen, Thor!

abgb123
7 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

This isn’t the NFL, contracts are guaranteed in MLB (for the most part), teams can’t arbitrarily release players without pay (in most cases). Holding out in the NFL has to do with the balance of career span/injury risk/non-guaranteed contracts/money. There is absolutely NO upside to an MLB player holding out (on an individual basis).

CC AFCMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  abgb123

You’re exaggerating the guarantees MLB players get. Nothing is guaranteed to Mookie past next year’s arbitration and whatever he got to sign initially. If he were extremely concerned about a long term injury, holding out for a greater guarantee might make sense. More likely, this would apply to a pitcher who is much more likely to suffer a career altering injury before they have any ability to negotiate a real contract (RIP Mark Prior, Matt Harvey, Luis Severino[?]).

Conversely, while salaries are not guaranteed in the NFL, there are a number of items, like signing bonuses that are guaranteed in NFL contracts, especially for high draft picks. The NFL players have a greater incentive to hold out because they tend to be paid less overall in guarantees and have higher injury risk, but the general calculus of knowing your value to the team compared to the risk to you is the same.

abgb123
7 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

No I’m not exaggerating anything and the proof is in that no player in MLB sits out a season for the sake of contract negotiations. If he decided to skip a year for contract negotiations purposes I imagine he would be moved to the restricted list (same list PED user go to) and he wouldn’t be paid or more importantly wouldn’t accumulate service time and would be in the same predicament next year with the same team. Being as Betts is arbitration eligible and he will get somewhere between 20-28 million in arbitration which he could only lose if for some unforeseen reason the RedSox release him before the beginning of the season in which case he would only receive 45 days termination pay. Assuming something absolutely awful doesn’t happen to him or his play between now and 2020 offseason he will sign a contract that’s going to be life changing for a couple generations, the 300 million plus that he signs for will be completely guaranteed.
If a player signs a 3 year contract all 3 years are guaranteed unless they are options, this is why Prince Fielder/Tulo and so on are STILL being paid right now. Of course there are scenarios where a player isn’t guaranteed based on contract options, service time and so on, this is obvious.
For every MLB player you want to mention that has retired early due to injury I can name 5 maybe 10 NFL players that were forced to do the same.
MLB & NFL are 2 completely different animals as far as player compensation is concerned, in value, guarantees and structure, they aren’t even comparable so the negotiations aren’t comparable.

CC AFCMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  abgb123

Ok, so from today through forever, betts is guaranteed zero dollars. Once he gets his arb raise or agrees to a salary to avoid arb, he’s guaranteed only that from today forward. To say there’s no reason to hold out in that is hyperbole.

The Sox need him. It’s not like he doesn’t have leverage in withholding his labor. And it’s not like there’s zero chance he suffers an injury that effects his future outlook or that he plays significantly worse such that it effects long term projections. Soooo, if his goal was to lock in as large a long term guarantee as possible, then squeezing the Sox by the balls by holding out has some possibility of achieving that goal – whether by the Sox extending him or trading him to a team that does extend him. Sure the Sox could play hardball a la the Steelers and leveon bell, but it’s a two way street and let’s not pretend the Sox could just shelve betts and feel no pain from losing all his production.

I happen to think those are low probability events, so I wouldn’t go that path if I’m in his shoes, but to say there’s no reason to do that is nonsense.

abgb123
7 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

I really don’t understand what you think he would achieve by holding out. The MLBPA would never back him, he would still be property of the redsox due to service time, he would become a hated man in Boston, his marketability would plummet, he would be less attractive in free agency and an extra year older and lose a years pay.
So he’s made 32 mil so far and will make 28ish mil next year and he’s supposed to sit out a prime year in a non contact sport (forfeiting the 28ish mil) 1 year short of being able to market himself to every team for the sake of avoiding a hypothetical injury before his massive GUARANTEED payday 7 years in on the hope that the RedSox blink and give him an extension he’s made clear he doesn’t even want to entertain right now.
You are simply wrong, proven by the fact the baseball players don’t even threaten to do it otherwise one would have to imagine Trout would have done it when the Angels renewed his contract after winning rookie of the year and placing second in MVP voting.
If you bother to read a little about the different structures of the NFL contracts and MLB contracts as well as the differences in how team control works you’ll understand.

TKDCMember since 2016🏆 MVP
7 years ago
Reply to  abgb123

This is spot on. I’ve wondered about the idea of a Trout-like player (when he was 21) holding out for a modest raise. If Trout says “I want $1 million, not $600k, or I don’t play,” what would the Angels do?

The only leverage a player in that situation has is basically threatening to shot himself in the foot. But if you are management and Mike Trout, off a 10 win season, wants $400k more and is threatening to not play, what do you do?

abgb123
7 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Luckily we never had to find out

Lanidrac
7 years ago
Reply to  markymarc767

That’s partly why MLB’s guaranteed contracts are a better system than the NFL. No currently signed (or team controlled) MLB player is going to unilaterally hold out and cost himself a significant portion of his otherwise guaranteed salary while also torching his reputation for when he does reach free agency.

SimmonsforPres2020Member since 2020
7 years ago

If they’re bad next year they can just trade him at the deadline. No way he goes this winter IMO

MRDXolMember since 2021
7 years ago

Betts appears determined to test free agency, having (very deserved) confidence about how much he’ll get on the open market. That isn’t to say he wouldn’t sign with Boston again, but he’s not going to give them a hometown discount. Boston’s likely to cut payroll big-time, but I doubt Betts will be part of that unless he’s secretly determined to leave Boston if he gets equivalent offers.

What seems most likelyto me is that they try to offload Price, who is still decent to good, but hasn’t been terribly healthy, is 34, and owed $32M/Y for the next three years after this season. I can’t imagine that they’d get much back for him, but late-stage rebuild teams like the Phillies, Padres, and White Sox have rotation needs & some money to spend. Other theoretical trade partners could be the Astros, who’d look to pull a Verlander part deux to replace Cole, or the Brewers & Angels, who have really good position players & contending aspirations but bottom-tier rotations.

mattMember since 2023
7 years ago
Reply to  MRDXol

The red sox would have eat some money, maybe about half of price’s deal to offload him. I think with the Xander and Sale deals they aren’t going to put up much of a fight with mookie. I’m not saying I agree with the decision for boston (i think it’s terrible). I just think lot of signs point to that

matthayden4Member since 2024
7 years ago

I know this isn’t a Bonds article, but 45.9 WAR in FOUR years from 2001-2004. Dear Lord.

TOOTBLAN ErrornadoMember since 2019
7 years ago

“Head Towards”? How about “Approach”?

mookie monster
7 years ago

There’s a dollars and cents angle to this. There’s an efficiency-$-per-WAR angle to this. And then there’s a “what the hell is the point of being one of the richest franchises in sports if you won’t spend whatever it takes to re-sign an in-his-prime superstar who is also the face of your franchise and a great dude and probably the best player you’ve had since peak Pedro” angle to this.

At some point, you just have to quit worrying about aging curves and open up the pocketbook.

Jon
7 years ago

$300M? He has to be aiming for $400M at least, and frankly I wouldn’t be surprised if the initial asking price is $500M over 13. And if Machado/Harper (both players with serious question marks and no legitimate claims to being anywhere near the best player in the game) got what they got, then why shouldn’t Mookie get $400M+?

CC AFCMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  Jon

Isn’t this what we were saying last year about Machado and Harper, though? They’re so young! And they’re so good! And they’re consistently good! And no one hits free agency this young, so we can’t compare them to other elite players. Then the whole idea that they might get $400m went to shit and neither of them have exactly set the world on fire this year. I could see Mookie topping them but he’s not gonna blow their contracts out of the water. Teams will convince themselves that his defense and base running will age poorly since they’re premised on speed and that Fenway exaggerates his power and whatever

Jon
7 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

Eh, not really. I mean, maybe their agents were saying that, but most people I think saw Harper as a guy with one good year (4 years ago) who’s really still just potential, and Machado as an overrated, dirty, lazy head case.

Neither of them are anywhere near Betts, and this is coming from a Yankee fan. Mookie’s floor is pretty close to Machado’s ceiling, and with Harper, you’re much more likely to get a 2-3 WAR season than a7-8 one.

Jon
7 years ago
Reply to  Jon

Would absolutely LOVE if the downvoters explained what they disagree with here! Because I’m scratching my head. And this season has justified exactly what I said above. Betts essentially has equaled Harper and Machado (*combined*) in terms of WAR, in what is considered a down year for him.

dodgerbleu
7 years ago
Reply to  Jon

Yeah, not sure about the downvotes here either. No one on FG was saying they’re so consistent – Machado was coming off a 2.4 WAR 2017 with just a 107 wRC+ and buoyed mostly by defensive metrics. Harper was coming off a year in which his K rate had spiked about 4% over the previous year and his career average and had a miserable defensive year. The only doubt he put to rest was some of the injury concern label. Sure, plenty of readers liked to hypothetically spend MLB team money, but no one was saying they were a sure thing or that they were no-brainers, just that given the typical FA landscape, their pedigree and age, they were worth much more than the typical FA. And they got much more than the typical FA, both in years and overall comp.

Even last offseason people were mentioning Mookie as a class above, and Trout and Mookie as the real FA record-breakers.

Also – Mookie already turned down 8/200 flat, BEFORE his monster 2018. That’s a higher AAV than Harper got, before Mookie put up the 11th best individual season since 1961. Removing both Harper and Mookie’s monster seasons – Harpers best season is tied for Mookie’s fourth best season. Or put another way, Harpers BEST non-2015 season is tied with Mookies WORST full season WAR total.

No bias here. Harper doesn’t measure up to Mookie in any way other than potential. Machado at least had an argument as Mookie-lite and he was consistent in WAR outside of 2017 (though that bat was all over the place and he’d never hit on the road so there were some warning signs there that were discussed at length last offseason as well).

floppygoblier
7 years ago

While everyone else has surely made the point much better than I will, there’s literally no reason not to give him what he wants.

For the luxury tax, it’s not like in the nba where cutting payroll can literally save hundreds of millions in tax payments. They’d probably be paying the salary equivalent of what, a good 8th inning guy or a decent 6th or 7th hitter type? Pocket change to most owners, and certainly the owner of one of baseball’s (and european soccer!) premier franchises.

For the draft penalties, sure, it puts a team at a competitive disadvantage to keep taking those hits, but this is Mookie freakin’ Betts here! These are conversations worth having about 4-ish WAR type players like Conforto or Benintendi, but this is the best position player you’ve had in fifty years, maybe longer! Any team would be delighted if five first round picks together were half as valuable as Mookie has been thus far, all before he’s even turned 27.

There’s no real reason the organization should have any stance on this other than doing whatever it takes to bring him back. Let E-Rod walk. Let Bradley walk. Trade Benintendi. Whatever. It. Takes. Nathan Eovaldi’s bad contract should not cause you to lose the best player a large portion of the fan base has ever seen, and letting that happen would be the single biggest black mark on Henry’s ownership record.

London Yank
7 years ago
Reply to  floppygoblier

” this is the best position player you’ve had in fifty years, maybe longer!”

Wade Boggs was a better player from 83-91, so its really only been about 30 years.

floppygoblier
7 years ago
Reply to  London Yank

I almost went with Boggs instead of Yaz but Boggs was never as good as Mookie was last year, and neither was as good as Mookie has been at the same age. Granted, their aging curves are probably going to end up pretty different and it’s tough to compare across eras and all that but I think it’s arguable in general and the point still stands.

London Yank
7 years ago
Reply to  floppygoblier

Prime Boggs was also never as bad as 2015 or 2017 Betts. Boggs was a much better hitter and a good defender at a much more challenging position. I don’t think it is actually particularly close. This is no knock on Betts, Boggs is an inner circle HOFer. Boggs was so good that his career wRC+ including his long decline phase is equal to Betts’ prime wRC+.

Also, Nomar was at least as good as Betts from 1997-2000.

floppygoblier
7 years ago
Reply to  London Yank

I already acknowledged that Wade Boggs was incredible. Since when is “through age 26” a player’s prime? Through age 26 Boggs had about half as much WAR as Betts has, and then started a string of 8-WAR seasons. Is it likely Betts will do that? No, but it’s not exactly fair to compare the prime of Boggs’ career to Mookie’s age-22 season, an age at which Wade Boggs produced exactly 0 WAR, either.

Do you have any critiques of my main argument (which I welcome! I am a big dummy who can learn a lot from the people who post regularly on this site!) or are we going to continue arguing about whether I slighted Wade Boggs, one of my favorite players ever, by making an off hand comment meant to demonstrate that players like Mookie don’t tend to come around often?

NATS FanMember since 2018
7 years ago

Although I don’t want it to happen, Boston is a likely playoff team next year! If they make the championship then Betts will likely resign.

Lanidrac
7 years ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

That didn’t convince Pujols to resign with the Cardinals. Winning a ring in your walk year isn’t much of a difference maker in negotiations.

Dooduh
7 years ago

Trade to the Reds…

mr_hoggMember since 2020
7 years ago

Woah tho that Beane return for Samardzija is impressive, not just Semien but also Phegley and Bassitt

BipMember since 2016
7 years ago

Wow Barry Bonds was really bad in 2003

Antonio BananasMember since 2016
7 years ago

why not trade him this offseason then sign him after 2020? you gamble on him testing free agency (which you do regardless) and take a win% hit in 2020, but you get the most value over time.

fjtorres
7 years ago

Because they’re still good enough to compete next year.
And Sale and Price might rebound.
Or a kid pitcher goes nuts…
They still have to sell tickets, next year, too.

stonepie
7 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

agreed cant see this flying in boston

Antonio BananasMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

so cash in everything for 2020. Or:

still likely to compete in 2020 if what you say goes right, rebuild the farm, and have a juggernaut from 2021-2025.

Max Power
7 years ago

Let’s say Mookie spent his entire career with the Marlins, and was in the same situation coming up on 1 year left of control and was on the trade market. And let’s say Boston was coming off a disappointing season, about 7 wins less than they’ll finish with this year, with a win-now and expensive roster, but JDM and Porcello coming off the books.

What team do you think everyone in the baseball community would link Mookie to in a trade? That’s right, Boston.

manormachine
7 years ago

We should rename WAR to WBBB: Wins Below Barry Bonds.

fuster
7 years ago

Dumbrowski assembled a strong major league team and won the last World Series.

may be a long time until they next win