Shelby Miller: Pseudo-Prospect

As a part of whatever their plan is, the Braves have reportedly made Shelby Miller available, and they’re taking calls from almost everyone. Miller has three more years of team control, so it’s not like he’d be just a short-term addition, but the Braves would probably like to exchange that for four or five or six years of control of somebody else. It’s nice to have three years of a good player, but it’s less nice when at least the first one will do little to get the team away from the basement. The goal isn’t the year ahead. The goal is survival, so that better years may come.

Even just on the surface, it’s no mystery why Miller has more than a dozen suitors. He’s a cost-controlled, 25-year-old starting pitcher who just eclipsed 200 innings. He played for a miserable team, explaining how he paired a lousy record with a sub-3.5 ERA. Miller still throws plenty hard, and he gained back a few strikeouts, while limiting quality contact. Miller, as is, is appealing. But I think here we could be looking at a brighter future than usual. You typically want to project a player based on what he’s already done. I think there’s a chance Miller’s on the verge of a breakthrough, making him simultaneously a veteran and a sort of prospect. The teams most interested in Shelby Miller might be looking to buy his promise.

Given: Miller is young. His fastball averages 94, and he’s started 95 games the last three years. He has a background as a hyped prospect, so Miller has always drawn attention, and he’s always had potential. Yet it wasn’t far back that Miller looked like a two-pitch pitcher. It’s not that two-pitch pitchers can’t be successful, but Miller didn’t offer much in the way of variety, so it was on him to find some way to reach the next level despite that. He could, say, try to improve his changeup, or he could just focus on nailing pinpoint command. A few years ago, 90% of his pitches were four-seamers or curveballs. Two years back, that number was 88%.

What’s fascinating, then, is what’s in the table below. Before this most recent season, Miller still mostly looked like a two-pitch pitcher. Keep that in mind.

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Shelby Miller Pitch Usage
Year Four-seam Sinker Cutter Curve Change
2012 67% 0% 0% 25% 8%
2013 71% 0% 4% 19% 6%
2014 68% 4% 6% 20% 2%
2015 44% 23% 21% 10% 2%
SOURCE: Brooks Baseball

Where not long ago Miller had two reliable pitches, now he has four. It was a quiet development, as Miller took every turn for a go-nowhere ballclub, but Miller added a sinker and a cutter to his four-seamer and curveball, and he used those pitches against righties and lefties alike. He used them often, and he used them with confidence, and though his final numbers for the year were more good than great, this arsenal ought to have more potential than the old one. Batters are less able to predict what’ll be on the way, and Miller pairs his velocity with an ability to pound the zone. So he’s a strike-thrower, now with four weapons.

Yeah, the sinker showed up the year before, and the cutter had also made some previous appearances, but last year is when they took off. Thanks in part to the sinker, Miller posted a career-high groundball rate. Thanks in part to the cutter, Miller posted a career-high strike rate against lefties. And, about that cutter — here’s a link to our pitch-value leaderboard. The best cutter last year, among starting pitchers, belonged to Jake Arrieta. The second-best cutter belonged to Corey Kluber. The third-best belonged to Shelby Miller. Out of nowhere, the pitch didn’t just fold itself in to Miller’s mix; it became maybe the best thing he throws. You can see how it helped him against lefties, and you can see how maybe it helped him avoid solid contact. The cutter did what it was supposed to do. It’s something that now Miller just has.

You see little signs elsewhere. Three years ago, Miller generated three-quarters of his strikeouts with four-seamers. Two years ago, he was up at 78%. This past year, he finished at 59%. The cutter, of course, helped, and this is important, since Miller’s hyped curveball hasn’t been the devastating weapon some thought it could turn into. It could still get there yet. But in the meantime, Miller has made progress in spite of that.

So you have a hard- and strike-throwing pitcher, who now has twice as many pitches as he used to. That hints at a high ceiling, but it could also help Miller to just get out of Atlanta. The repertoire gives Miller potential, but his 2015 numbers might’ve also been a bit misleading. Miller was mostly caught by A.J. Pierzynski, and Pierzynski isn’t known for his ability to receive. For every pitcher in baseball, I calculated the difference between his actual strikes and his expected strikes, based on out-of-zone swings and pitches in the PITCHf/x strike zone. It’s an estimate, but here are the bottom 15:

Bottom 15 Pitchers, Strikes – Expected Strikes
Pitcher Team Strikes – expStrikes
Shelby Miller Braves -59
Collin McHugh Astros -59
Chris Bassitt Athletics -51
Jordan Zimmermann Nationals -50
Rubby de la Rosa Diamondbacks -44
Max Scherzer Nationals -44
Michael Lorenzen Reds -42
Ervin Santana Twins -41
Edinson Volquez Royals -39
Robbie Ross Red Sox -38
Matthew Wisler Braves -35
Mike Foltynewicz Braves -32
Chris Tillman Orioles -31
Alfredo Simon Tigers -31
Anibal Sanchez Tigers -31

Usually I just go to 10, but I wanted to show a few other Braves. It’s not all necessarily about the catchers, but the catchers are a big part of it, and Miller lost more potential strikes by this measure than anyone else, save for Collin McHugh, who he tied. So Miller’s step forward last year might’ve been even greater than you’d think, because of a hidden, subtle penalty. Give Miller a better catcher, and he could throw more strikes, meaning he’d be ahead more often, meaning he’d end up with more strikeouts and fewer walks. It all follows. Given that Miller finished with his sparking ERA, you don’t want to just say Pierzynski cost him success or anything, but Pierzynski was restrictive, and Miller could presumably benefit from a stronger receiver.

I really don’t want to make too much of this, because it’s not the sort of thing you can just expect, but there are some parallels between Miller and Jake Arrieta, right as he was preparing to break out. Arrieta has turned into one of the top five or so starting pitchers in the game, and no team would figure Miller’s in line to follow, but you could see him on a similar general path, where last year might’ve been kind of like Arrieta’s 2013. Miller has shown the signs, and now it’s time to put it all together. His repertoire has become similar to Arrieta’s. Arrieta throws his slider/cutter hybrid a bit faster, but Miller showed a velocity uptick in the second half. Maybe he won’t become a seven-win pitcher, but he could become a five-win pitcher. He seems to have what he needs.

Could be I’m far too optimistic. Steamer projects Shelby Miller for a 4.09 ERA, and Steamer is probably smarter than I am. Yet the Braves won’t treat Miller like that level of pitcher, and neither will the suitors. If a team trades for Miller, it’ll likely be a team that loves what he could do, as opposed to what he’s already done. And what he could do is phenomenal. There’s not much left that he needs.





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D
10 years ago

Does it make sense that the Braves value him more highly than Simmons? Based on that return, I imagine every GM would call to see if ATL would but on another AA arm that is “too good to refuse”.

Phantom Stranger
10 years ago

Superficially his raw numbers would have looked better if Freddie hadn’t kept pushing him in the second half of the year to stay in games. Miller’s non-winning streak and the Braves’ terrible bullpen put a lot of pressure on Freddie to keep Miller in games long after he should have been pulled.

After Simmons, Miller was the only watchable player on the Braves in 2015. You might as well trade him now because he won’t be on the team when it’s good again in 2019.

If they don’t get a premium position player prospect for Miller that is a real blue chip, John Coppolella should hire a bodyguard when he walks around Atlanta. The fanbase would mutiny even more if they saw another injured pitching prospect.

tz
10 years ago

As a Red Sox fan who roots for the Braves in the NL, I’d love to see Miller go to the Sox for a package of say Devers and a couple of lesser position prospects. Seems like a good match.

Cory Settoon
10 years ago

He seems to be carving himself into the Jose Quintana-esque mold. That wouldn’t be so bad at all.

Let’s play a game:

Player A – 7.67 K/9, 3.27 BB/9, .288 BABIP, 73.8 % LOB% 4.19 xFIP
Player B – 7.50 K/9, 3.20 BB/9, .285 BABIP, 73.8 % LOB% 4.07 xFIP

Hint: They know each other well.

machetko
10 years ago
Reply to  Cory Settoon

Demand that you tell me before something very bad happens to your family.

swingofthings
10 years ago
Reply to  Cory Settoon

Shelby Miller and Julio Teheran. Both perhaps some of the best unreached pitching potential out there.

It’s a little soon to tell with Miller, but Braves better hope they do better with the next round of young pitchers if they plan to compete that way.

Park Chan ho's Beard
10 years ago

AJ Pierzynski isn’t known for his ability to receive??? I beg to differ:
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/8/4/0/140995840/080315_sfatl_pierzynski_frame_med_dkkmue0n.gif

TimothyS
10 years ago

I was really hoping this was going to be a gif of AJ getting punched in the face

James
10 years ago
Reply to  TimothyS

Rarely do I “LOL” but it’s well deserved here. That tickled me.

JDawg0718
10 years ago

I don’t think Pierzynski holds him back the only thing that is bringing down his value is his offence on a team like the Jays he would be a 20 win pitcher and it seems people only look at wins now

Erubiel durazo
10 years ago

Fangraphers seem to be short on Miller but as a Barves fan that watches each game (regrets, I have them) you don’t nearly pitch no hitters multiple times a year because you’re above average. You do it because you can be filthy and rise to a level few can. Miller has the stuff to be a no 1 and is already a no 2 at 25. I’d take his next three years over stras in a heartbeat, even if I knew stras would be healthy, rate stat differential be damned.

Ryan DC
10 years ago
Reply to  Erubiel durazo

“I’d take his next three years over stras in a heartbeat, even if I knew stras would be healthy”

Like everyone else in the world, you are entitled to your opinion, but that is a dumb opinion

Erubiel durazo
10 years ago
Reply to  Ryan DC

DC Ryan,
Thanks so much for your feedback. Gosh you’ve been helpful! I’ll be sure to study up on war, siera and fip and hopefully reassess the situation so I don’t continue to post contrarian positions on who I’d prefer to have on my favorite baseball team going forward. In the mean time am I still allowed on fangraphs?

Earnestly,

Erubiel

Za
10 years ago
Reply to  Erubiel durazo

He’s a #3 with upside. Hard to call him a #2 based on his career so far.

Erubiel durazo
10 years ago
Reply to  Za

The term no 2 doesn’t have concrete meaning (tomatoes, tomahtoes) and I wasn’t referring to his whole career, but what he was last year, and therefore probably going forward. That said, if you take a measure of a number 2 to be, say a top 20-40 starting pitcher (30 teams five slots/ club) then I don’t know what you mean by asserting that he is a no 3. He posted top 25 war this past year, putting him short of no 1 category (say top 10-15 or whatever) but certainly in that next rung i.e. A no. 2.

I’m open to hearing what you think, though, and why his last year was not no. 2 caliber.

dl80
10 years ago
Reply to  Erubiel durazo

I do think the (unintentional?) use of “Barves” to refer to the team is great. As in, more than one Barf. I think that’s about right for the next 3-4 years.

pedeysRSox
10 years ago

The question is who would pay up to get miller? Likely a team with pitching needs, a pitcher’s park or a team with both.

jdbolickMember since 2024
10 years ago

It’s interesting how much the FanGraphs opinion of Shelby Miller has changed in a year. The point about Miller diversifying his fastball types is well made, yet he still lacks any real complement to that. Arrieta’s curveball and changeup both have positive value. Miller’s curveball and changeup both have negative value. Interestingly, the pitchers are also at different ends of the spectrum in O-Swing% and Z-Swing%. Miller has the unfortunate combination of not being great at inducing swings outside the strike zone while seeing a high percentage of swings within the strike zone, whereas Arrieta is the opposite. I get that it wasn’t a straight comparison but more an illustration of how pitch changes can produce dramatic changes in results; I simply don’t think that a dramatic change in results is at all likely for Shelby Miller. The Braves would presumably be making a smart decision to sell high, assuming they’re aiming for something substantially better than what they received for Simmons.

BipMember since 2016
10 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

It’s weird, the old-school and analytical fans may both dislike him, and for opposite reasons. He can’t buy a win, which we consider to be just bad luck, since his ERA is good. But his xFIP is bad, suggesting his ERA is good luck.

tz
10 years ago
Reply to  Bip

In other words, he’s the anti-Adrian Beltre.

Za
10 years ago
Reply to  Bip

He outperformed his FIP because he was getting groundballs at an advice average rate hit to Simmons. His ERA will match his FIP more closely now that the best defensive SS is no longer being him.

Borat
10 years ago
Reply to  Za

I too like this country of America! You like?

Joe Joe
10 years ago

Collin McHugh is a weird tie at top of the list. Keuchel is probably on the opposite end and the Astros have catchers that have a reputation and stats backing up good framing. Could he be in line for a jump to the next level?

senor_mike
10 years ago

Nice write-up. I tend to trust more in your expectations for Miller going forward than Steamer, at least in this particular case. It crafted a projection for Miller with a body of work that largely did not possess a Cutter or a Sinker, so I imagine 2015 is being picked up like a bit of an outlier type year.

However I think where he is really hurt by Steamer is that less-than-stellar K%-BB% of 11.4%, which you did a great job outlining. A better catcher may be able to raise that past the magical 15% demarcation line, and then suddenly his 2017 projection looks a ton better.

Also, if I recall correctly their pitcher projections used to only account for velocity and not pitch type/movement. I know they wanted to head in that direction, but not sure if they have made it there yet. If not, then Miller would be dinged even further.

CircleChange11
10 years ago

So, shelby Miller leaves the Cardinals to develop into a pitcher that throws more sinkers and cutters and less fastballs and curveballs?

It’s like Opposite World.

Isn’t that the Dave Duncan legacy? Pound the zone with movement rather than velocity and go for no walks and weak contact?

Joe Kelly
10 years ago
Reply to  CircleChange11

Not like he’s going to win the Cy Young this year.